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7th Dec '17 12:52:05 PM WaterBlap
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* Despite [[RapeIsLove what they're famous for]], this is the real point of John Norman's ''Literature/{{Gor}}'' books. Definitely meant as an example of the "sweet and well intentioned" variety but since ''every single woman'' enjoys being enslaved it just feels creepy.

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* Despite [[RapeIsLove what they're famous for]], for, this is the real point of John Norman's ''Literature/{{Gor}}'' books. Definitely meant as an example of the "sweet and well intentioned" variety but since ''every single woman'' enjoys being enslaved it just feels creepy.
5th Nov '17 5:11:33 AM ClintEastwood
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** A running theme with Polly is that people always patronise her by making her get the coffee. When employed as a secretary in the Post Office Tower in 1966, she was constantly told to stay out of the computer science and go and make coffee. Even as a companion, Ben taunts her by saying things like, "Polly, [[WaxingLyrical put the kettle on]]" while he and the Doctor are planning things a way of escaping the monsters. In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS46TheMoonbase The Moonbase]]", she gets coffee for the weather machine operators (leading to the Doctor solving how some people were getting a disease), and there is one specific moment where she's planned a clever ScienceHero way of defeating the Cybermen and Ben makes her stop because 'this is no job for a bird'.
** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E8TheFacelessOnes The Faceless Ones]]", Ben and Polly depart the TARDIS crew and the Doctor says his goodbyes. He tells Ben to go back to the Navy and work his way up through the ranks and become an Admiral. He tells Polly, "look after Ben". Particularly callous since Polly is generally shown to be clever, more competent and ambitious than Ben, and because a big part of Polly's reason for hooking up with the Doctor in the first place was because in her real job she was being treated like an ignorant teamaid by sexist computer engineers. Notably, in an episode of ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' from 2010, Sarah Jane notes that she ''did'' hook up with Ben...though it notes ''both'' of them are working in an orphanage in India, suggesting she at least got to do something better with her life than just be "Ben's wife."

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** A running theme with Polly is that people always patronise her by making her get the coffee. When employed as a secretary in the Post Office Tower in 1966, 1966 in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E10TheWarMachines her first appearance]], she was constantly told to stay out of the computer science and go and make coffee. Even as a companion, Ben taunts her by saying things like, "Polly, [[WaxingLyrical put the kettle on]]" while he and the Doctor are planning things a way of escaping the monsters. In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS46TheMoonbase "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E6TheMoonbase The Moonbase]]", she gets coffee for the weather machine operators (leading to the Doctor solving how some people were getting a disease), and there is one specific moment where she's planned a clever ScienceHero way of defeating the Cybermen and Ben makes her stop because 'this is no job for a bird'.
** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E8TheFacelessOnes The Faceless Ones]]", Ben and Polly depart the TARDIS crew and the Doctor says his goodbyes. He tells Ben to go back to the Navy and work his way up through the ranks and become an Admiral. He tells Polly, "look after Ben". Particularly callous since Polly is generally shown to be clever, more competent and ambitious than Ben, and because a big part of Polly's reason for hooking up with the Doctor in the first place was because in her real job she was being treated like an ignorant teamaid by sexist computer engineers. Notably, in an episode of ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' episode "[[Recap/TheSarahJaneAdventuresS4E5E6DeathOfTheDoctor Death of the Doctor]]" from 2010, Sarah Jane notes that she ''did'' hook up with Ben...though it notes ''both'' of them are working in an orphanage in India, suggesting she at least got to do something better with her life than just be "Ben's wife."
4th Nov '17 5:41:55 PM ClintEastwood
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** Played with in "The Dalek Invasion of Earth". Barbara and Susan get taken in from wandering around unprotected by [[LaResistance the Resistance against the Daleks]], and their leader presses them on their useful skills. He asks Barbara if she can cook - she says she can get by - and then asks Susan what she does, who replies "[[SnarkBall I eat]]". In response, the leader clarifies that he's not asking for gender-based reasons - the resistance is just currently short on cooks. Susan's sarcasm is confirmed when we later see her cook an apparently delicious rabbit stew from a wild rabbit she hunted and prepared herself.
** A running theme with Polly is that people always patronise her by making her get the coffee. When employed as a secretary in the Post Office Tower in 1966, she was constantly told to stay out of the computer science and go and make coffee. Even as a companion, Ben taunts her by saying things like, "Polly, [[WaxingLyrical put the kettle on]]" while he and the Doctor are planning things a way of escaping the monsters. In "The Moonbase", she gets coffee for the weather machine operators (leading to the Doctor solving how some people were getting a disease), and there is one specific moment where she's planned a clever ScienceHero way of defeating the Cybermen and Ben makes her stop because 'this is no job for a bird'.
** In "The Faceless Ones", Ben and Polly depart the TARDIS crew and the Doctor says his goodbyes. He tells Ben to go back to the Navy and work his way up through the ranks and become an Admiral. He tells Polly, "look after Ben". Particularly callous since Polly is generally shown to be clever, more competent and ambitious than Ben, and because a big part of Polly's reason for hooking up with the Doctor in the first place was because in her real job she was being treated like an ignorant teamaid by sexist computer engineers. Notably, in an episode of ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' from 2010, Sarah Jane notes that she ''did'' hook up with Ben...though it notes ''both'' of them are working in an orphanage in India, suggesting she at least got to do something better with her life than just be "Ben's wife."
** In "Tomb of the Cybermen", the white male archaeologists divide up several investigation parties for exploring the tomb. Victoria and Kaftan, as 'the women', are asked to stay behind in the first room for their safety, accompanied by the team's only black man for their protection (keeping him out of the way as well). Victoria is unimpressed and insists on taking them all investigating, then promptly gets herself shut into a sarcophagus and has to be rescued (although by Kaftan). Keep in mind Victoria is from the 1860s and has more progressive views of gender roles than anyone else in the plot.
** In one episode in the revived series, the Doctor goes on an adventure with Amy, Rory, Rory's dad, a great white hunter, and Nefertiti. The hunter is initially not happy with Nefertiti not being submissive to him, at one point threatening to spank her for being rude to him (her response is along the lines of "I'd love to see you try"). Amy lampshades this at one point by suggesting he needs a lesson on "gender politics". By the end of the episode, he seems to have begun to respect Nefertiti's strong will, [[spoiler:at least enough to take her with him back to hunting big game in his own time.]]

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** Played with in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E2TheDalekInvasionOfEarth The Dalek Invasion of Earth".Earth]]". Barbara and Susan get taken in from wandering around unprotected by [[LaResistance the Resistance against the Daleks]], and their leader presses them on their useful skills. He asks Barbara if she can cook - she says she can get by - and then asks Susan what she does, who replies "[[SnarkBall I eat]]". In response, the leader clarifies that he's not asking for gender-based reasons - the resistance is just currently short on cooks. Susan's sarcasm is confirmed when we later see her cook an apparently delicious rabbit stew from a wild rabbit she hunted and prepared herself.
** A running theme with Polly is that people always patronise her by making her get the coffee. When employed as a secretary in the Post Office Tower in 1966, she was constantly told to stay out of the computer science and go and make coffee. Even as a companion, Ben taunts her by saying things like, "Polly, [[WaxingLyrical put the kettle on]]" while he and the Doctor are planning things a way of escaping the monsters. In "The Moonbase", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS46TheMoonbase The Moonbase]]", she gets coffee for the weather machine operators (leading to the Doctor solving how some people were getting a disease), and there is one specific moment where she's planned a clever ScienceHero way of defeating the Cybermen and Ben makes her stop because 'this is no job for a bird'.
** In "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS4E8TheFacelessOnes The Faceless Ones", Ones]]", Ben and Polly depart the TARDIS crew and the Doctor says his goodbyes. He tells Ben to go back to the Navy and work his way up through the ranks and become an Admiral. He tells Polly, "look after Ben". Particularly callous since Polly is generally shown to be clever, more competent and ambitious than Ben, and because a big part of Polly's reason for hooking up with the Doctor in the first place was because in her real job she was being treated like an ignorant teamaid by sexist computer engineers. Notably, in an episode of ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' from 2010, Sarah Jane notes that she ''did'' hook up with Ben...though it notes ''both'' of them are working in an orphanage in India, suggesting she at least got to do something better with her life than just be "Ben's wife."
** In "Tomb "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS5E1TheTombOfTheCybermen The Tomb of the Cybermen", Cybermen]]", the white male archaeologists divide up several investigation parties for exploring the tomb. Victoria and Kaftan, as 'the women', are asked to stay behind in the first room for their safety, accompanied by the team's only black man for their protection (keeping him out of the way as well). Victoria is unimpressed and insists on taking them all investigating, then promptly gets herself shut into a sarcophagus and has to be rescued (although by Kaftan). Keep in mind Victoria is from the 1860s and has more progressive views of gender roles than anyone else in the plot.
** In one episode in the revived series, "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E2DinosaursOnASpaceship Dinosaurs on a Spaceship]]", the Doctor goes on an adventure with Amy, Rory, Rory's dad, a great white hunter, and Nefertiti. The hunter is initially not happy with Nefertiti not being submissive to him, at one point threatening to spank her for being rude to him (her response is along the lines of "I'd love to see you try"). Amy lampshades this at one point by suggesting he needs a lesson on "gender politics". By the end of the episode, he seems to have begun to respect Nefertiti's strong will, [[spoiler:at least enough to take her with him back to hunting big game in his own time.]]



** Played with in episode "She Used To Be My Girl". At a conference for women, Homer tells Marge to stay there while he goes to rescue Lisa, whereupon he's booed by the women. He then says that ''he'll'' stay there, and Marge can go and rescue Lisa, to which he's booed at again. Homer then asks the women what they want (and both he and Marge end up going).
** In the ''Film/KingKong1933'' parody segment in the third HalloweenEpisode, Smithers avers that "women and seamen don't mix" while the crew is sailing to Ape Island with Marge in tow. Given what we [[StraightGay now know about Smithers]], this could be interpreted [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre another way.]]

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** Played with in episode "She "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E4SheUsedToBeMyGirl She Used To to Be My Girl".Girl]]". At a conference for women, Homer tells Marge to stay there while he goes to rescue Lisa, whereupon he's booed by the women. He then says that ''he'll'' stay there, and Marge can go and rescue Lisa, to which he's booed at again. Homer then asks the women what they want (and both he and Marge end up going).
** In the ''Film/KingKong1933'' parody segment in the third HalloweenEpisode, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS4E5TreehouseOfHorrorIII Treehouse of Horror III]]", Smithers avers that "women and seamen don't mix" while the crew is sailing to Ape Island with Marge in tow. Given what we [[StraightGay now know about Smithers]], this could be interpreted [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre another way.]]



* Master Fnog in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' refused to send Leela, his best student, to the Junior Karate Championships, instead sending the two students she ''defeated'' in the qualifiers, because he claimed she did not have the Will of the Warrior - which according to him, only men can possess. Later, Leela encounters him during Bender's final bout in the Ultimate Robot Fighting League as the trainer of a new star, Destructor. She eventually uncovers Fnog was cheating and though he still taunts her for being a woman, she gets to beat him.
** Also shows up in the episode where Leela meets a surviving man of her species, who seems nice at first but acts increasingly sexist towards her. It turns out he wants women to stay at home because [[spoiler:if they wandered too far from their mansions, they might discover the ''other'' mansions containing the other women he's seduced]].
** In "Insane in the Mainframe", Fry thinks he's a robot and Leela tries to get him to snap out of it.

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Master Fnog in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' "[[Recap/FuturamaS2E8RagingBender Raging Bender]]" refused to send Leela, his best student, to the Junior Karate Championships, instead sending the two students she ''defeated'' in the qualifiers, because he claimed she did not have the Will of the Warrior - which according to him, only men can possess. Later, Leela encounters him during Bender's final bout in the Ultimate Robot Fighting League as the trainer of a new star, Destructor. She eventually uncovers Fnog was cheating and though he still taunts her for being a woman, she gets to beat him.
** Also shows up in the episode "[[Recap/FuturamaS2E9ABicyclopsBuiltForTwo A Bicyclops Built for Two]]", where Leela meets a surviving man of her species, who seems nice at first but acts increasingly sexist towards her. It turns out he wants women to stay at home because [[spoiler:if they wandered too far from their mansions, they might discover the ''other'' mansions containing the other women he's seduced]].
** In "Insane "[[Recap/FuturamaS3E11InsaneInTheMainframe Insane in the Mainframe", Mainframe]]", Fry thinks he's a robot and Leela tries to get him to snap out of it.



** "Rosewell That Ends Well" has the cast sent back to Rosewell, New Mexico in the year 1947. As part of the preparations to get back to their own time, Leela and and the Professor [[ItMakesSenseInContext have to buy a new microwave]]. Because this is before microwaves were invented, the appliance store salesman they speak to tries to convince Leela to buy a state-of-the-art oven, pointing out one of the features being a basin to soak her feet. "After all, you're going to be standing in front of it all day!" After Leela [[ContrivedClumsiness "accidentally" hits him with the oven door]] and coolly repeats her request for a microwave, the salesman decides she's hysterical and only interacts with the Professor.

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** "Rosewell That "[[Recap/FuturamaS3E19RoswellThatEndsWell Roswell that Ends Well" Well]]" has the cast sent back to Rosewell, New Mexico in the year 1947. As part of the preparations to get back to their own time, Leela and and the Professor [[ItMakesSenseInContext have to buy a new microwave]]. Because this is before microwaves were invented, the appliance store salesman they speak to tries to convince Leela to buy a state-of-the-art oven, pointing out one of the features being a basin to soak her feet. "After all, you're going to be standing in front of it all day!" After Leela [[ContrivedClumsiness "accidentally" hits him with the oven door]] and coolly repeats her request for a microwave, the salesman decides she's hysterical and only interacts with the Professor.



* Touched in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' where Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy team up, and grumble about the lack of respect they get from males. At one point they briefly get the upper hand on Batman and ask him if ''he'' is bothered by being beaten by "mere girls".

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* Touched in an episode of the ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE56HarleyAndIvy Harley and Ivy]]", where Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy team up, and grumble about the lack of respect they get from males. At one point they briefly get the upper hand on Batman and ask him if ''he'' is bothered by being beaten by "mere girls".
27th Oct '17 5:18:59 AM IdumeanPatriot
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* In ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' this is the only righteous way, and the heroes look back with bemused contempt on the days women were allowed in combat. Helped by their easy victory over Azania when [[FauxActionGirl women pilots would inevitably panic and crash.]]

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* In ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' this This is true for most of the only righteous way, polities in ''Literature/{{Victoria}}''. The New Confederacy finds women in the military incompatible with Southern chivalry, and the heroes look back with bemused contempt on Nazis share similar sentiments, as does the days women were allowed in combat. Helped by their easy victory over Azania when [[FauxActionGirl women pilots would inevitably panic reactionary Northern Confederation. The only significant exception is Azania, which is a LadyLand, and crash.]]is mocked by the Confederation in particular for its female soldiers.
12th Oct '17 11:31:34 PM gjjones
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* In the ''Anime/SailorMoon'' anime, Jadeite (in the original Japanese version and the 2014 Creator/VizMedia English dub) [[{{Jerkass}} makes a sexist remark directed at Sailors Moon, Mercury, and Mars, that girls are useless and can only run, scream, and cry]]. They make a rather {{anvilicious}} speech about showing him [[YouGoGirl what women can do]] and proceed to run him over with several [[CarFu airplanes]] that he had originally [[HoistByHisOwnPetard sent after them]]. He survives, though afterwards Queen Beryl [[YouHaveFailedMe puts him in Eternal Sleep]] for failing yet again to dispatch the trio. The incident is also an act of BondVillainStupidity on Beryl's part, since he was about to reveal their names, and they could have been attacked while depowered.[[note]]Although, she herself would disagree; to her, the fact that he had discovered their identities was irrelevant. He had failed her for the last time, and executed him for it.[[/note]]

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* In the ''Anime/SailorMoon'' anime, Jadeite (in the original Japanese version and the 2014 Creator/VizMedia English dub) [[{{Jerkass}} makes a sexist remark directed at Sailors Moon, Mercury, and Mars, that girls are useless and can only run, scream, and cry]].cry]], triggering their BerserkButton. They make a rather {{anvilicious}} speech about showing him [[YouGoGirl what women can do]] and proceed to run him over with several [[CarFu airplanes]] that he had originally [[HoistByHisOwnPetard sent after them]]. He survives, though afterwards Queen Beryl [[YouHaveFailedMe puts freezes him to death in Eternal Sleep]] a crystal]] for failing yet again to dispatch the trio. The incident is also an act of BondVillainStupidity on Beryl's part, since he was about to reveal their names, and they could have been attacked while depowered.[[note]]Although, she herself would disagree; to her, the fact that he had discovered their identities was irrelevant. He had failed her for the last time, and executed him for it.[[/note]]
11th Oct '17 1:17:51 PM IdumeanPatriot
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* This is the attitude of Kang the Conqueror's soldiers from the far-advanced future in Marvel Comics.
-->Were twentieth-century men so foolhardy as to allow powerless ''women'' to join them in battle? No ''wonder'' we now call their century "The Age of Unreason"!
24th Sep '17 11:20:59 AM lalalei2001
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpacePOP'' has a particularly forced example with Captain Hansome, whose first few missions have him asking the girls to spy on things and report back, which they disobey and end up destroying Geela's weapons. He also attempts to break in and rescue them during another mission, only for them to rescue him and demand he treat them with respect from then on. Despite this he ''still'' does it on occasion, and it's made worse by Luna's crush on him, ignoring how he treats her and her friends.
17th Sep '17 12:38:43 AM Superfield
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* In one story in ''Miles Edgeworth: Franchise/AceAttorney Investigations'', Detective Gumshoe is called in to help guard a museum's most valuable painting. One of the employees is Monet, the curator's teenage niece. She promises to do everything she can to help guard the painting, only for Gumshoe to panic and tell her that the situation is too dangerous "for a girl". When she tells him that she's a black belt though, he is fine with her helping out. Later, after Edgeworth joins in the investigation, Monet offers to stand guard at the only exit, to keep the culprit from sneaking out. Edgeworth gives the same argument Gumshoe did (that it's too dangerous a job for a woman), but also lets her go ahead after Gumshoe tells about her blackbelt.


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** In one story in ''Miles Edgeworth: Franchise/AceAttorney Investigations'', Detective Gumshoe is called in to help guard a museum's most valuable painting. One of the employees is Monet, the curator's teenage niece. She promises to do everything she can to help guard the painting, only for Gumshoe to panic and tell her that the situation is too dangerous "for a girl". When she tells him that she's a black belt though, he is fine with her helping out. Later, after Edgeworth joins in the investigation, Monet offers to stand guard at the only exit, to keep the culprit from sneaking out. Edgeworth gives the same argument Gumshoe did (that it's too dangerous a job for a woman), but also lets her go ahead after Gumshoe tells about her blackbelt.
16th Sep '17 9:15:22 PM DesiredUsernameTaken
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'': In Episode 130, Mr. Cat says that he believes that girls and women should cook and do housework. He puts a bow and an apron on Kaeloo, makes her stand in the kitchen and asks her to cook something while he sits on the couch and watches sports on TV. Kaeloo doesn't take this very well - she winds up HulkingOut and then chasing him around with the [[FryingPanOfDoom frying pan.]]
14th Sep '17 11:49:08 PM Peteman
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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' as the gender barrier is almost non existent, anyone can be a soldier, commander, or ruler in the Inner Sphere. Its even averted hard in Clans, as the only rule they have is you have to be a badass, with many females filling roles of warriors and even Khans. Also, even implying this trope in [[LadyLand the Magistracy of Canopus]] is [[BerserkButton a good way to get shot]].

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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' as the gender barrier is almost non existent, anyone can be a soldier, commander, or ruler in the Inner Sphere. Its even averted hard in Clans, as the only rule they have is you have to be a badass, with many females filling roles of warriors and even Khans. Also, even implying this trope in [[LadyLand the Magistracy of Canopus]] is [[BerserkButton a good way to get shot]].
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