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27th Jul '16 2:56:58 PM Wyldchyld
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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'':
** Orihime falls into this on occasion. Despite having immense RealityWarper powers, everybody except for Rukia and Chad is convinced that she should stay out of fights because she's not suited for battle. Which is true on one hand as she has a naturally gentle disposition and hates hurting even her enemies, but on the other hand she's very good at defense when properly motivated (the strength of her powers depend on her willpower and state of mind). However, the one time she decided to interfere a fight and saved Ichigo's life, Ichigo told her "Thank you, but never do this again." but it was to have a 1-on-1 fight with Ulquiorra. Future attempts at [[TookALevelInBadass taking a level in badass]] don't really amount to much, as she's immediately sidelined before being able to do anything beyond healing. However, she's taken more steps as being Ichigo's shield from Uryu's arrows and protect him at times, even marching up with him to get to Yhwach. In fact, Ichigo when about to finally fight Yhwach tells Orihime he's counting on her to protect him.
** When confronted by Arrancar Di Roy Rinker, Ichigo told Rukia to stand back and leave it to him despite the risk of him losing control of his Inner Hollow. Rukia called him out on assuming she was weak and proceeded to CurbStompBattle Di Roy.

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'':
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''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': Orihime falls into this on occasion. Despite having immense RealityWarper powers, everybody except for Rukia and Chad is convinced that she should stay out of fights because she's not suited for battle. Which is true on one hand as she has a naturally gentle disposition and hates hurting even her enemies, but on the other hand she's very good at defense when properly motivated (the strength of her powers depend on her willpower and state of mind). However, the one time she decided to interfere a fight and saved Ichigo's life, Ichigo told her "Thank you, but never do this again." but it was to have a 1-on-1 fight with Ulquiorra. Future attempts at [[TookALevelInBadass taking a level in badass]] don't really amount to much, as she's immediately sidelined before being able to do anything beyond healing. However, she's taken more steps as being Ichigo's shield from Uryu's arrows and protect him at times, even marching up with him to get to Yhwach. In fact, Ichigo when about to finally fight Yhwach tells Orihime he's counting on her to protect him.
** When confronted by Arrancar Di Roy Rinker, Ichigo told Rukia to stand back and leave it to him despite the risk of him losing control of his Inner Hollow. Rukia called him out on assuming she was weak and proceeded to CurbStompBattle Di Roy.
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27th Jul '16 9:21:20 AM JoieDeCombat
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* Junpei in ''VideoGame/Persona3Portable'''s female path is offended and irritated that in a group of three girls he's not the one in charge, though Mitsuru shuts him down hard before he can keep complaining about it. Eventually, he grows out of the attitude and his social link puts a more positive spin on the idea.

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* Junpei in ''VideoGame/Persona3Portable'''s ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}} Portable'''s female path is offended and irritated that in a group of three girls he's not the one in charge, though Mitsuru shuts him down hard before he can keep complaining about it. Eventually, His attitude is mostly a product of Junpei being a particularly immature teenage boy who has self-image problems and desperately [[IJustWantToBeSpecial wants to be special]]; he grows out of it over the attitude course of his Social Link and his social link puts a more positive spin on has matured noticeably by the idea.end of the game.
27th Jul '16 8:39:16 AM JoieDeCombat
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* In ''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub'', the beach episode has Tamaki lecture Haruhi about not trying to take on guys who are obviously stronger than her after a pitiful fight against bullies. She spurns his advice, but [[spoiler:Kyouya jumps her in the infamous bedroom scene]] to prove to her that sometimes guys really are capable of physical harm and that an untrained female like herself is too weak to act like her sex doesn't matter. [[spoiler:He won't do anything to her and she knows it]], but the point is effectively (if uncomfortably) made. Tamaki is also dealing with a bruised ego because Haruhi seems to be completely independent without a way for him to take care of her as he'd like to; he's not so much "vindicated" as shown that she is like everyone else, and happens to be [[FearOfThunder scared of thunder]].
27th Jul '16 8:25:37 AM StFan
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* In the original ''Anime/MazingerZ'' TV series, [[TheHero Kouji Kabuto]] makes such comments in a semi-regular basis, mostly as (rather bad) jokes. Too bad for him that his girlfriend Sayaka is a hot-tempered {{Tsundere}} who won't have any of that, so she usually bitches him out or downright [[SlapSlapKiss beats the shit out of him]]. And thankfully, it's taken out of newer continuities. The {{Irony}} of it is he is a pretty good cook and he is quite proud of it.

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* ''Anime/MazingerZ'':
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In the original ''Anime/MazingerZ'' TV series, [[TheHero Kouji Kabuto]] makes such comments in a semi-regular basis, mostly as (rather bad) jokes. Too bad for him that his girlfriend Sayaka is a hot-tempered {{Tsundere}} who won't have any of that, so she usually bitches him out or downright [[SlapSlapKiss beats the shit out of him]]. And thankfully, it's taken out of newer continuities. The {{Irony}} of it is he is a pretty good cook and he is quite proud of it.



** ''Anime/UFORoboGrendizer'': In the GosakuOta manga, when Kouji flew to make FirstContact with [[AlienInvasion the Vegans]], Dr. Umon, Daisuke and Hikaru were watching it through a screen in the Laboratory. When the saucers tried to shoot Kouji down, Daisuke started yelling in pain. Hikaru offered to carry him to a bed, but Dr. Umon screamed: “You stay out of this, woman!”. In his defence, he was –understandably, given the circumstances- nervous and stressed, and he did not want her to discover Daisuke's secret, so maybe he would not say that in normal situations, but still… At least he never said anything like that in the Creator/GoNagai manga and the anime series.
* The [[spoiler:Jovian colonists]] in ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico'' have an all-male military, and while few of their women are shown it's heavily implied they follow this trope. The reason is because they based their society around ''Gekiganger 3'', an old-school anime where the only major female character was TheChick.

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** ''Anime/UFORoboGrendizer'': In the GosakuOta Creator/GosakuOta manga, when Kouji flew to make FirstContact with [[AlienInvasion the Vegans]], Dr. Umon, Daisuke and Hikaru were watching it through a screen in the Laboratory. When the saucers tried to shoot Kouji down, Daisuke started yelling in pain. Hikaru offered to carry him to a bed, but Dr. Umon screamed: “You stay out of this, woman!”. In his defence, he was –understandably, given the circumstances- nervous and stressed, and he did not want her to discover Daisuke's secret, so maybe he would not say that in normal situations, but still… At least he never said anything like that in the Creator/GoNagai manga and the anime series.
* ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico'':
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The [[spoiler:Jovian colonists]] in ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico'' have an all-male military, and while few of their women are shown it's heavily implied they follow this trope. The reason is because they based their society around ''Gekiganger 3'', an old-school anime where the only major female character was TheChick.



* Not a straight example, as it was more 'let's all kill [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Ban]]!' than 'life threatening fight,' but ''Manga/GetBackers'' still has a funny example:

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* Not a straight example, as it was more 'let's "let's all kill [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Ban]]!' Ban]]!" than 'life threatening fight,' "life-threatening fight," but ''Manga/GetBackers'' still has a funny example:



'''[[ActionGirl Himiko]]:''' What do you mean 'after all,' you cross-dresser?!

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'''[[ActionGirl Himiko]]:''' What do you mean 'after all,' "after all," you cross-dresser?!



* Surprisingly, ''Manga/KatekyoHitmanReborn'''s portrayal of women is quite often this (especially weird considering that the series' creator ''is'' a woman, and its target audience has [[GenreShift changed to become women]]). Kyoko, Haru, and I-Pin are shown to mainly just stay in the kitchen cooking and cleaning and doing the laundry for the men while the men go off to train and fight. And just when they get sick and tired of being lied to, and refuse to StayInTheKitchen until the men at least tell them ''where they are'', they get convinced by Bianchi and start feeling guilty that the men are completely incapable of taking care of their own health and food needs, and eventually reach the conclusion that they'll give up and go back to the kitchen (and if it weren't for Tsuna deciding to tell them ''anyways'', they would've just continued on the same way as always).

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* Surprisingly, ''Manga/KatekyoHitmanReborn'''s portrayal of women is quite often this (especially weird considering that the series' creator ''is'' a woman, and its target audience has [[GenreShift changed to become women]]). women]]).
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Kyoko, Haru, and I-Pin are shown to mainly just stay in the kitchen cooking and cleaning and doing the laundry for the men while the men go off to train and fight. And just when they get sick and tired of being lied to, and refuse to StayInTheKitchen stay in the kitchen until the men at least tell them ''where they are'', they get convinced by Bianchi and start feeling guilty that the men are completely incapable of taking care of their own health and food needs, and eventually reach the conclusion that they'll give up and go back to the kitchen (and if it weren't for Tsuna deciding to tell them ''anyways'', they would've just continued on the same way as always).



* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' has Wufei who, thanks to the combination of a strict, traditional Chinese upbringing and a FreudianExcuse ([[spoiler:his wife got killed in battle]]), is dismissive of female soldiers. This tends to get [[NeverLiveItDown exaggerated]] in the fandom, and he does [[CharacterDevelopment grow out of it]] relatively early on.

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'':
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''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' has Wufei who, thanks to the combination of a strict, traditional Chinese upbringing and a FreudianExcuse ([[spoiler:his wife got killed in battle]]), is dismissive of female soldiers. This tends to get [[NeverLiveItDown exaggerated]] in the fandom, and he does [[CharacterDevelopment grow out of it]] relatively early on.



* In the ''Manga/SorcererHunters'' manga, Gateau takes this stance with his younger sister, Eclair, telling her that girls are cuter when they're being protected; this is more than a little jarring, considering that Eclair is (and has always been) the more talented and stronger of the two. On some occasions she tries to accompany the team on missions, but Gateau refuses to allow it every time, even going as far as ''slapping her'' to make his point. Nobody comments on this, even though ''every woman in the manga'' is an ActionGirl (with the possible exception of Salad). His attitude would be justified by the fact that she was kidnapped by series' main villain when they were younger, but the reason he kidnapped ''her'' and left him to die was ''because'' she was the stronger sibling and he wanted her to fight for his cause. Which she later did, willingly.
** On top of that, he had this attitude long before she ever went missing; a flashback shows him bringing her home after she beat the crap out of a guy who called her weak. He tells her she went too far and that if she doesn't act more feminine, no one will want to marry her. When she says it's too much trouble to depend on someone else and that she wants to be strong to protect her loved ones, he laughs at her.

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* In the ''Manga/SorcererHunters'' manga, Gateau takes this stance with his younger sister, Eclair, telling her that girls are cuter when they're being protected; this is more than a little jarring, considering that Eclair is (and has always been) the more talented and stronger of the two. On some occasions she tries to accompany the team on missions, but Gateau refuses to allow it every time, even going as far as ''slapping her'' to make his point. Nobody comments on this, even though ''every woman in the manga'' is an ActionGirl (with the possible exception of Salad). His attitude would be justified by the fact that she was kidnapped by series' main villain when they were younger, but the reason he kidnapped ''her'' and left him to die was ''because'' she was the stronger sibling and he wanted her to fight for his cause. Which she later did, willingly.
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willingly. On top of that, he had this attitude long before she ever went missing; a flashback shows him bringing her home after she beat the crap out of a guy who called her weak. He tells her she went too far and that if she doesn't act more feminine, no one will want to marry her. When she says it's too much trouble to depend on someone else and that she wants to be strong to protect her loved ones, he laughs at her.



* Subverted with Nanami from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}''. Her father refused to teach her Kyotoryuu and decided to make Shichika the next head of the Yasuri clan - not because she was a woman, and not because she was an IllGirl, but because she was too powerful for him to properly train. Not that it mattered - she mastered Kyotoryuu anyway by simply watching her father train her brother.
* Anime/BraveSeries, full stop. While the guys have awesome adventures with their HumongousMecha (who are also all men), girls are either TheChick or their mother. Only time we had a female Brave was in GaoGaiGarFinal, which was an OVA for an older crowd.

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* Subverted with Nanami from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}''. Her father refused to teach her Kyotoryuu and decided to make Shichika the next head of the Yasuri clan - -- not because she was a woman, and not because she was an IllGirl, but because she was too powerful for him to properly train. Not that it mattered - she mastered Kyotoryuu anyway by simply watching her father train her brother.
* Anime/BraveSeries, ''Anime/BraveSeries'', full stop. While the guys have awesome adventures with their HumongousMecha (who are also all men), girls are either TheChick or their mother. Only time we had a female Brave was in GaoGaiGarFinal, which was an OVA for an older crowd.



* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', one Marine officer suggests that Tsuru stay out of the battle with Whitebeard's forces. She indignantly responds that he's in no position to order her around and there's nowhere safe for her to go, and later is shown hanging some of Whitebeard's men out to dry like laundry. [[VisualPun Literally]]. [[NeverMessWithGranny Messing with Tsuru is a mistake]].
** Of course, it should be noted that this trope was probably not the reasoning behind that suggestion; after all, Hina, Tashigi, and a female member of the Giant Squad were all present and active in the battle as well. In Tsuru's case, it was likely more due to her advanced age and the fact that, unlike the [[CoolOldGuy cool old guys]] like Garp or Sengoku, she actually had an appropriately frail-looking appearance.

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', one Marine officer suggests that Tsuru stay out of the battle with Whitebeard's forces. She indignantly responds that he's in no position to order her around and there's nowhere safe for her to go, and later is shown hanging some of Whitebeard's men out to dry like laundry. [[VisualPun Literally]]. [[NeverMessWithGranny Messing with Tsuru is a mistake]].
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mistake]]. Of course, it should be noted that this trope was probably not the reasoning behind that suggestion; after all, Hina, Tashigi, and a female member of the Giant Squad were all present and active in the battle as well. In Tsuru's case, it was likely more due to her advanced age and the fact that, unlike the [[CoolOldGuy cool old guys]] like Garp or Sengoku, she actually had an appropriately frail-looking appearance.



* In ''ComicBook/ElfQuest'': Shortly after the "barbaric" Wolfrider elves settle into the home of the more civilized Sun Folk elves, the two tribes learn of an approaching stampede of dumb but powerful [[CallARabbitASmeerp horse-like Zwoots]]. The Sun Folk plan to hide in the caves until the stampede is over, but the Wolfriders decide to turn the stampede so that it avoids damaging the village. When Leetah spots petite Dewshine heading out to join the other Wolfriders, she objects:
-->'''Leetah:''' But it is not a maiden's place to--\\

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* In ''ComicBook/ElfQuest'': ''ComicBook/ElfQuest'':
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Shortly after the "barbaric" Wolfrider elves settle into the home of the more civilized Sun Folk elves, the two tribes learn of an approaching stampede of dumb but powerful [[CallARabbitASmeerp horse-like Zwoots]]. The Sun Folk plan to hide in the caves until the stampede is over, but the Wolfriders decide to turn the stampede so that it avoids damaging the village. When Leetah spots petite Dewshine heading out to join the other Wolfriders, she objects:
-->'''Leetah:''' --->'''Leetah:''' But it is not a maiden's place to--\\



''Leetah can't come up with a good answer.''\\

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''Leetah ''[Leetah can't come up with a good answer.''\\answer]''\\



* In ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'', Reed Richards was like this with Sue for a while after their son Franklin was born. He would insist that she stay behind on more dangerous missions, on the grounds that she was "the mother of my child". This didn't last long (Sue put her foot down), and it was specific to Sue -- he had no problem with the female Crystal or Medusa taking her place on such occasions.
** His worst moment being his infamous "Wives should be kissed, and not heard" line.
** "The Micro World of Doctor Doom!" has Doom plot to have lizard people enslave the Fantastic Four. He tells the heroes that the lizard people would force Reed to do research, Johnny to help burn cities, Ben to work in the mines, and Sue to...cook everyone's meals.

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* In ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'', ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'';
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Reed Richards was like this with Sue for a while after their son Franklin was born. He would insist that she stay behind on more dangerous missions, on the grounds that she was "the mother of my child". This didn't last long (Sue put her foot down), and it was specific to Sue -- he had no problem with the female Crystal or Medusa taking her place on such occasions.
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occasions. His worst moment being his infamous "Wives should be kissed, and not heard" line.
** "The Micro World of Doctor Doom!" has Doom plot to have lizard people enslave the Fantastic Four. He tells the heroes that the lizard people would force Reed to do research, Johnny to help burn cities, Ben to work in the mines, and Sue to... cook everyone's meals.



* In ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}} and Son'', Impedimenta is told to 'get back to your pots and pans, woman'. She promptly smashes the offending Roman over the head with a pan.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'':
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In ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}} ''Asterix and Son'', Impedimenta is told to 'get "get back to your pots and pans, woman'. woman." She promptly smashes the offending Roman over the head with a pan.



* ''Comicbook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}'' has a couple of notorious '60s stories in which Brainiac 5 tries to tell Saturn Girl that the mission of the day is "too dangerous for a girl." The first time she goes along with it; the second time she insists on taking her chances along with everybody else, and the subject never comes up again.
* In her earliest stories, [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] got this treatment from [[{{Spider-Man}} J. Jonah Jameson]], who, as her boss, was something of a strawman misogynist.

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* ''Comicbook/{{Legion ''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}'' has a couple of notorious '60s stories in which Brainiac 5 tries to tell Saturn Girl that the mission of the day is "too dangerous for a girl." The first time she goes along with it; the second time she insists on taking her chances along with everybody else, and the subject never comes up again.
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In her earliest stories, [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] Danvers got this treatment from [[{{Spider-Man}} [[ComicBook/SpiderMan J. Jonah Jameson]], who, as her boss, was something of a strawman misogynist.



* This was the motivation for the "Dumpster Killer(s)" who Franchise/{{Batman}} dealt with in several issues from the 1980's. They felt that feminism was making women act above their station in life, so they killed and mutilated them to send them a message. Or they were just jerks.
* A Franchise/{{Superman}} comic called "Mrs. Superman" features ComicBook/LoisLane going into a coma and dreaming that she is married to Superman. The real Superman, in the hospital room watching her sleep, makes a suggestion that she left her job to marry him and [[spoiler: was replaced by Lulu Lyons, whom Clark invented to make her jealous and wake up from the dream.]]

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* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'': This was the motivation for the "Dumpster Killer(s)" who Franchise/{{Batman}} Batman dealt with in several issues from the 1980's.1980s. They felt that feminism was making women act above their station in life, so they killed and mutilated them to send them a message. Or they were just jerks.
* A Franchise/{{Superman}} ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' comic called "Mrs. Superman" features ComicBook/LoisLane going into a coma and dreaming that she is married to Superman. The real Superman, in the hospital room watching her sleep, makes a suggestion that she left her job to marry him and [[spoiler: was [[spoiler:was replaced by Lulu Lyons, whom Clark invented to make her jealous and wake up from the dream.]]



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* ''WebVideo/AvatarTheAbridgedSeries'': Said almost word for word by Master Pakku to Katara (in a hilarious Scottish accent) "Now either learn to heal, or get in the kitchen and MAKE SOME BABIES!"

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* ''WebVideo/AvatarTheAbridgedSeries'': One of the reasons Anthony's marriage to Therese in ''ComicStrip/ForBetterOrForWorse'' failed is that he somehow expected her to do this trope and give up her highly successful career in finance after the birth of their daughter...and is completely shocked that she went back to her career. This being For Better or For Worse, though, [[WriterOnBoard we're supposed to see Therese as the bad guy]]. (What makes it worse is that Anthony promised to be the HouseHusband when he convinced Therese to get pregnant, and more or less went back on his word after her birth to chase after [[StrangledByTheRedString Liz]].)
** Liz had a more traditionally female career of teaching, and her sister-in-law Deanna gave up her career as a pharmacist to-get this-''run a sewing school''.
** This is PlayedForLaughs in an earlier storyline, where the family visits relatives on a farm. The relatives' neighbor is a farmer with rather old-fashioned values, and at one point the aunt tells Elly that he doesn't think women are intelligent enough for good conversation and that their place is in the kitchen. The last panel shows the farmer dully commenting to John and the uncle on how it looks like rain. Another comic has Elly drive a tractor out to the fields. She reflects how easy, carefree, and fun the job is. The last panel has the farmer interrupting her, telling her "You get on home now, little lady. This here is men's work."
* In ''ComicStrip/{{Blonde}}'', Dagwood at first objected furiously to Blonde starting her own catering business, as he was opposed to her working; he changed his mind quickly once she told him her predicted profit margin and realized he could [[BigEater help inspect what she made]] for her inventory.
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* ''WebVideo/AvatarTheAbridgedSeries'':
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Said almost word for word by Master Pakku to Katara (in a hilarious Scottish accent) "Now either learn to heal, or get in the kitchen and MAKE SOME BABIES!"



* As a old fashioned world, the magicals of Harry Potter can be given this view, at least the purebloods and other jerks. While pureblood females are generally accepting of this policy in fanon, many a [[{{Ron the Death Eater}} Ron's]] have found out telling Hermione this is a good way to get hurt.

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* As a old fashioned old-fashioned world, the magicals of Harry Potter can be given this view, at least the purebloods and other jerks. While pureblood females are generally accepting of this policy in fanon, many a [[{{Ron the Death Eater}} Ron's]] [[RonTheDeathEater Ron]] have found out telling Hermione this is a good way to get hurt.



* In ''{{Fanfic/Xenophilia}}'', two instances of the [[InvertedTrope gender-flipped version]] crop out. One is demonstrated when the human Lero mentions offhandedly that he had a mare ask him why he wasn't following this trope and Rainbow Dash (who he had just started dated), Twilight Sparkle and Applejack are completely ''livid''. Later it's shown that this attitude can be manipulated when a stallion named Chuck Wagon deliberately picks a fight with Lero by [[BerserkButton insulting Twilight and Dash]], planning on sitting back and letting one of his mares fight with Dash and Twilight. Needless to say, this isn't well-received by Lero, who proceeds to prove that he can take care of himself without hurting anyone by NeckLift-ing Chuck Wagon's unicorn wife before she can cast a spell and scaring the stallion ''shitless'' in the process.

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* In ''{{Fanfic/Xenophilia}}'', ''Fanfic/{{Xenophilia}}'', two instances of the [[InvertedTrope gender-flipped version]] crop out. One is demonstrated when the human Lero mentions offhandedly that he had a mare ask him why he wasn't following this trope and Rainbow Dash (who he had just started dated), Twilight Sparkle and Applejack are completely ''livid''. Later it's shown that this attitude can be manipulated when a stallion named Chuck Wagon deliberately picks a fight with Lero by [[BerserkButton insulting Twilight and Dash]], planning on sitting back and letting one of his mares fight with Dash and Twilight. Needless to say, this isn't well-received by Lero, who proceeds to prove that he can take care of himself without hurting anyone by NeckLift-ing Chuck Wagon's unicorn wife before she can cast a spell and scaring the stallion ''shitless'' in the process.



* In ''FanFic/MegaManReawakened'', Roll encounters this at first due to the others thinking it's too dangerous for her, but Robert allows her to go fight.
* In ''FanFic/MegaManRecut'', this is ''much'' more pronounced than in the Mega Man cartoon, where it only happened in the earliest episodes. Here, it's ongoing as far in as Cold Steel, and feeds Roll's insecurities and wanting to prove herself no matter what.
* This is seen in early episodes of ''FanFic/MegaManDefenderOfTheHumanRace'', but it faded when Roll confronted her family about it.

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* In ''FanFic/MegaManReawakened'', ''Fanfic/MegaManReawakened'', Roll encounters this at first due to the others thinking it's too dangerous for her, but Robert allows her to go fight.
* In ''FanFic/MegaManRecut'', ''Fanfic/MegaManRecut'', this is ''much'' more pronounced than in the Mega Man cartoon, where it only happened in the earliest episodes. Here, it's ongoing as far in as Cold Steel, and feeds Roll's insecurities and wanting to prove herself no matter what.
* This is seen in early episodes of ''FanFic/MegaManDefenderOfTheHumanRace'', ''Fanfic/MegaManDefenderOfTheHumanRace'', but it faded when Roll confronted her family about it.



* [[DesignatedHero Vegeta]] maintains this attitude around [[{{Cyborg}} Android 18]] during their fight in ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged''. By the time it gets to him calling her a "smug [[spoiler:[[CountryMatters cunt]]]]", he's practically asking for 18 to apply her boot to his arm and break it. [[TranquilFury So]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown she]] [[CurbStompBattle does]].
* In ''WebVideo/SwordArtOnlineAbridged'', [[spoiler:Grimlock]] states that [[spoiler:Griselda not adhering to this trope]] is a valid reason for killing her that any man would agree with. Long story short, [[YouMonster even]] ''[[{{Sociopath}} Kirito]]'' [[EveryoneHasStandards was disgusted]].



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* Portrayed semi-sympathetically while being deconstructed in ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', just before the final battle with the Omnidroid--Mr. Incredible's reason isn't that he thinks his wife can't fight, but that ''he'' isn't strong enough... to lose her or the kids again (as he thought they'd been killed earlier in the film). Violet and Helen still fight anyway.

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* Portrayed semi-sympathetically while being deconstructed in ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', just before the final battle with the Omnidroid--Mr.Omnidroid. Mr. Incredible's reason isn't that he thinks his wife can't fight, but that ''he'' isn't strong enough... to lose her or the kids again (as he thought they'd been killed earlier in the film). Violet and Helen still fight anyway.



* This is the entire driving force behind ''Disney/{{Mulan}}''. First, Mulan is considered a complete screw-up because she fails at her session with the matchmaker and thus seems unlikely to be married. Then she is nearly killed for disguising herself as a boy and fighting in the army. She wins the respect of everyone by the film's end and the sequel has her serving as a warrior for the Emperor again, this time openly as a woman.
** This is encapsulated in the song "Honor To Us All", which lays out what [[DeliberateValuesDissonance that period]] thought the proper jobs for women should be, mainly getting a good marriage and being "calm, obedient, and work fast-paced". One part of the song also has how men should serve the Emperor by fighting, while women should do their duty by giving birth to sons.

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* This is the entire driving force behind ''Disney/{{Mulan}}''. First, Mulan is considered a complete screw-up because she fails at her session with the matchmaker and thus seems unlikely to be married. Then she is nearly killed for disguising herself as a boy and fighting in the army. She wins the respect of everyone by the film's end and the sequel has her serving as a warrior for the Emperor again, this time openly as a woman.
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woman. This is encapsulated in the song "Honor To to Us All", which lays out what [[DeliberateValuesDissonance that period]] thought the proper jobs for women should be, mainly getting a good marriage and being "calm, obedient, and work fast-paced". One part of the song also has how men should serve the Emperor by fighting, while women should do their duty by giving birth to sons.



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* This happens in 70s martial arts/blaxploitation flick ''Film/BlackBeltJones'', when the title character is called for help during a dinner date and love interest Sydney asks to go with him. He refuses, suggesting that she should stay and "do the dishes" instead. Sydney responds by picking up a revolver, and "doing the dishes" with hot lead, convincing Jones to let her help.

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* This happens in 70s '70s martial arts/blaxploitation flick ''Film/BlackBeltJones'', when the title character is called for help during a dinner date and love interest Sydney asks to go with him. He refuses, suggesting that she should stay and "do the dishes" instead. Sydney responds by picking up a revolver, and "doing the dishes" with hot lead, convincing Jones to let her help.



* Turns up in TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Franchise/JurassicPark'', as per the page quote, especially as John Hammond is an 80 year old fragile old man, while Dr. Ellie Settler is a young, fit woman who lives in the Montana Bad Lands digging up dinosaur bones with Dr. Grant. This is also more a case of Hammond having a bit of ValuesDissonance than him being an asshole, [[AdaptationalHeroism at least in the movie]] (the greedy, amoral Hammond of the book wouldn't even make the offer). WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic review had Doug Walker point out how it's funny that Hammond is confusing strength with gender when [[HypocriticalHumor most of the creatures on the island trying to kill him have a vagina]] (since the park bred the dinosaurs as female to avoid breeding).
* {{Subverted|Trope}} with Mina Harker from ''Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' film. Even while everyone on the team knew that she was an immortal vampire she was not allowed to hunt Mr. Hyde because Allan Quartermain told her that she was a woman (or the film-makers wanted to show how {{badass}} Creator/SeanConnery was). Fortunately, everyone forgot this trope from Venice and on. Well, everyone except for Literature/TomSawyer, but he was overconfident in himself.
** Mina was also clearly disgusted at being left behind during the fight with Mr. Hyde, mockingly repeating Quatermain's words "It's far too dangerous for a woman, even one such as yourself!"
** Justified, given that Venice was the point in the film when everyone realized that they all had to pitch in if they wanted to survive.

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* Turns up in TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Franchise/JurassicPark'', ''Film/JurassicPark'', as per the page quote, especially as John Hammond is an 80 year old fragile old man, while Dr. Ellie Settler is a young, fit woman who lives in the Montana Bad Lands digging up dinosaur bones with Dr. Grant. This is also more a case of Hammond having a bit of ValuesDissonance than him being an asshole, [[AdaptationalHeroism at least in the movie]] (the greedy, amoral Hammond of the book wouldn't even make the offer). WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic review had Doug Walker point out how it's funny that Hammond is confusing strength with gender when [[HypocriticalHumor most of the creatures on the island trying to kill him have a vagina]] (since the park bred the dinosaurs as female to avoid breeding).
* {{Subverted|Trope}} with Mina Harker from ''Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' film. Even while everyone on the team knew that she was is an immortal vampire vampire, she was is not allowed to hunt Mr. Hyde because Allan Quartermain told tells her that she was is a woman (or the film-makers wanted to show how {{badass}} Creator/SeanConnery was). Fortunately, everyone forgot forget this trope from Venice and on. Well, everyone except for Literature/TomSawyer, but he was is overconfident in himself.
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himself. Mina was is also clearly disgusted at being left behind during the fight with Mr. Hyde, mockingly repeating Quatermain's words "It's far too dangerous for a woman, even one such as yourself!"
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yourself!" Justified, given that Venice was the point in the film when everyone realized that they all had to pitch in if they wanted to survive.



* ActionGirl Brienne from ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' is frequently reminded by minor characters that "a woman's war is in the birthing bed," even though she'd really have no problem mopping the floor with all of them. It's ''very'' worth pointing out the society of Westeros is incredibly sexist, [[DeliberateValuesDissonance being based on medieval Europe]], and Lord Randyll Tarly is not only against women being anything but wives and mothers he is also against noblemen being anything other than warriors. His merciless and brutal attempts to 'make a man' out of his cowardly, obese, book loving, song singing, home and hearth inclined son Samwell are wonderful evidence. Lord Tarly takes gender roles very seriously...
** This is a particularly dark example because there's really nothing protective about his attitude toward her. He doesn't bother to hide the fact that he's really, really hoping something terrible will happen to her so that she'll learn her lesson and get back in the kitchen where women belong.
** Also deconstructed. This mentality actually puts most women in danger more than it protects them from it. Most women and girls in Westeros cannot defend themselves because they've been discouraged from learning how; nor can they enforce chivalry. Without male guardians, a situation that occurs frequently, especially for peasant women, they're sitting ducks. And there are many men out there who WouldHitAGirl.

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* ActionGirl Brienne from ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is frequently reminded by minor characters that "a woman's war is in the birthing bed," even though she'd really have no problem mopping the floor with all of them. It's ''very'' worth pointing out the society of Westeros is incredibly sexist, [[DeliberateValuesDissonance being based on medieval Europe]], and Lord Randyll Tarly is not only against women being anything but wives and mothers he is also against noblemen being anything other than warriors. His merciless and brutal attempts to 'make a man' out of his cowardly, obese, book loving, song singing, home and hearth inclined son Samwell are wonderful evidence. Lord Tarly takes gender roles very seriously...
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seriously...\\\
This is a particularly dark example because there's really nothing protective about his attitude toward her. He doesn't bother to hide the fact that he's really, really hoping something terrible will happen to her so that she'll learn her lesson and get back in the kitchen where women belong.
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belong. Also deconstructed. This mentality actually puts most women in danger more than it protects them from it. Most women and girls in Westeros cannot defend themselves because they've been discouraged from learning how; nor can they enforce chivalry. Without male guardians, a situation that occurs frequently, especially for peasant women, they're sitting ducks. And there are many men out there who WouldHitAGirl.



* In Jim Butcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', Harry has a chauvinistic sort of chivalry about him that firmly believes women shouldn't be in trouble, or hit, or anything like that. This might partly be because his chief mentor, one of the few people he really, genuinely respects, is about three hundred years old. Subverted in that he recognizes that it's a limitation, one that frequently almost gets him killed because as often as not, the people gunning for him are women themselves. It's just one he has to be ''really'' under pressure to start working around. Also subverted in that every woman he knows that's an ''ally'' is a straight {{badass}}, and the one he teams with most consistently is Karrin Murphy, who is a {{badass}}, but also a BadassNormal, who only after several books came to understand the limitations of the 'normal' part. She [[ActionGirl loathes]] it, but she understands it. And never let it be said Harry doesn't respect her.
** It's generally faded into non-existence by the sixth book, though he still does the opening doors and paying bills thing - [[TheGadfly though probably just to annoy Murphy.]]
* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', everybody tries to keep Éowyn away from the battlefield, and King Théoden wants her to stay in Meduseld and rule Rohan in his absence, thereby giving her another "man's job" instead. Éowyn disguises herself and goes to battle anyway (though it's never made clear whom ''she'' deputized to stay and rule Rohan). And while she's at it, she brings [[GenderBlenderName Merry]] with her, when he has also been excluded from the troops on account of being too short. She and Merry [[spoiler:kill the Witch King of Angmar, a.k.a the guy who killed King Théoden]]. Who, we should point out, is [[spoiler:thousands of years old and mighty enough to give Gandalf serious pause, and there's a prophecy claiming that [[NoManOfWomanBorn no man]] can kill him]]. Isn't irony great?
** Possible subversion: In this case "the kitchen" is being [[TheGoodChancellor regent of Rohan]]. Someone from a less [[ProudWarriorRace militaristic]] people then the Rohirrim might have considered it a compliment.
* Spenser and Susan Silverman in the ''{{Spenser}}'' series often discuss this, with Spenser often doing his best to protect Susan. It annoys her, but since he's an ex-cop and private detective and she's a psychiatrist she grudginly defers to his judgments on matters that could get them both killed.

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* In Jim Butcher's ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', Harry has a chauvinistic sort of chivalry about him that firmly believes women shouldn't be in trouble, or hit, or anything like that. This might partly be because his chief mentor, one of the few people he really, genuinely respects, is about three hundred years old. Subverted in that he recognizes that it's a limitation, one that frequently almost gets him killed because as often as not, the people gunning for him are women themselves. It's just one he has to be ''really'' under pressure to start working around. Also subverted in that every woman he knows that's an ''ally'' is a straight {{badass}}, badass, and the one he teams with most consistently is Karrin Murphy, who is a {{badass}}, but also a BadassNormal, who only after several books came to understand the limitations of the 'normal' "normal" part. She [[ActionGirl loathes]] it, but she understands it. And never let it be said Harry doesn't respect her.
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her. It's generally faded into non-existence by the sixth book, though he still does the opening doors and paying bills thing - -- [[TheGadfly though probably just to annoy Murphy.]]
* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', everybody tries to keep Éowyn away from the battlefield, and King Théoden wants her to stay in Meduseld and rule Rohan in his absence, thereby giving her another "man's job" instead. Éowyn disguises herself and goes to battle anyway (though it's never made clear whom ''she'' deputized to stay and rule Rohan). And while she's at it, she brings [[GenderBlenderName Merry]] with her, when he has also been excluded from the troops on account of being too short. She and Merry [[spoiler:kill the Witch King of Angmar, a.k.a the guy who killed King Théoden]]. Who, we should point out, is [[spoiler:thousands of years old and mighty enough to give Gandalf serious pause, and there's a prophecy claiming that [[NoManOfWomanBorn no man]] can kill him]]. Isn't irony great?
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great? Possible subversion: In this case "the kitchen" is being [[TheGoodChancellor regent of Rohan]]. Someone from a less [[ProudWarriorRace militaristic]] people then than the Rohirrim might have considered it a compliment.
* Spenser and Susan Silverman in the ''{{Spenser}}'' ''Literature/{{Spenser}}'' series often discuss this, with Spenser often doing his best to protect Susan. It annoys her, but since he's an ex-cop and private detective and she's a psychiatrist she grudginly defers to his judgments on matters that could get them both killed.



* In ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'', Susan and Lucy Pevensie are advised not to fight when they are given their weapons because "wars are ugly when women fight" (the movies left this line out). By ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'', however, which also introduces the RebelliousPrincess Aravis, the grown-up Lucy has already made her way to the military as an archer, as Corin tells Shasta that she fights [[{{Shorttank}} "as well as" a boy]]. Susan has decided to stay aside, but according to Corin it's because fighting just doesn't suit her [[TeamMom sensitive personality]] ("Queen Susan is more like an ordinary grown-up lady. She doesn't like going to war, despite being [[LadyOfWar an excellent archer]]"). Lucy becomes known as "The Valiant" and Susan as "The Gentle," making their involvement in combat a matter of personality, not societal rules. Jill is portrayed quite well when it's her turn to go out on adventures in ''Literature/TheSilverChair'' and ''Literature/TheLastBattle''.
** The movie threw this right out the window, with the producers pointing out that if Susan wasn't supposed to fight, Santa really shouldn't have given her a bow and arrow.
* ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'': DependingOnTheWriter, Luke Skywalker is either somewhat protective of his prickly friend and later wife Mara Jade, wanting to stand between her and the worst danger but entirely willing to [[BattleCouple fight alongside her]] and acknowledging that she's better in some areas of combat than he is... or he's much ''more'' protective and less appreciative of [[ActionGirl her skills]]. Either way annoys her.

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* In ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'', Susan and Lucy Pevensie are advised not to fight when they are given their weapons because "wars are ugly when women fight" (the movies left this line out). By ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'', however, which also introduces the RebelliousPrincess Aravis, the grown-up Lucy has already made her way to the military as an archer, as Corin tells Shasta that she fights [[{{Shorttank}} "as well as" a boy]]. Susan has decided to stay aside, but according to Corin it's because fighting just doesn't suit her [[TeamMom sensitive personality]] ("Queen Susan is more like an ordinary grown-up lady. She doesn't like going to war, despite being [[LadyOfWar an excellent archer]]"). Lucy becomes known as "The Valiant" and Susan as "The Gentle," making their involvement in combat a matter of personality, not societal rules. Jill is portrayed quite well when it's her turn to go out on adventures in ''Literature/TheSilverChair'' and ''Literature/TheLastBattle''.
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''Literature/TheLastBattle''. The movie threw this right out the window, with the producers pointing out that if Susan wasn't supposed to fight, Santa really shouldn't have given her a bow and arrow.
* ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'': ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'':
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DependingOnTheWriter, Luke Skywalker is either somewhat protective of his prickly friend and later wife Mara Jade, wanting to stand between her and the worst danger but entirely willing to [[BattleCouple fight alongside her]] and acknowledging that she's better in some areas of combat than he is... or he's much ''more'' protective and less appreciative of [[ActionGirl her skills]]. Either way annoys her.



* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' has the bizarre case is Tonks. Once she becomes a mother, Lupin and others are mostly concerned with keeping her safe. She's a fully-trained Auror, and probably the second best fighter left in the order. Once she shows up, though, she heads to the front lines immediately.
** Harry even notes this in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'', when Lupin offers to join the group on their quest and adds that Tonks is staying with her mother. Harry thinks this is odd and that Tonks would be more likely to want to join in on the action as well.
*** This is right before she finds out Tonks is pregnant. When Tonks shows up to fight later in the book, it's after her son has already been born.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' has the ''Literature/HarryPotter'':
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bizarre case is of Tonks. Once she becomes a mother, Lupin and others are mostly concerned with keeping her safe. She's a fully-trained Auror, and probably the second best fighter left in the order. Once she shows up, though, she heads to the front lines immediately.
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immediately. Harry even notes this in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'', when Lupin offers to join the group on their quest and adds that Tonks is staying with her mother. Harry thinks this is odd and that Tonks would be more likely to want to join in on the action as well.
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well. This is right before she finds out Tonks is pregnant. When Tonks shows up to fight later in the book, it's after her son has already been born.



** ''Jingo'' also parodies this when Carrot says that the D'regs have a particular view of women fighting. Jabbar, the D'reg Wise Man replies "Yes - we expect them to be good at it."

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** ''Jingo'' also parodies this when Carrot says that the D'regs have a particular view of women fighting. Jabbar, the D'reg Wise Man replies "Yes - -- we expect them to be good at it."



* Exists to a lesser degree in the ''Literature/{{Antares}}'' novels - female spacers are a rarity on Alta. It is explained as a cultural holdover from when they needed to populate their world, women were expected to produce many children, and therefore avoided dangerous occupations. That said, nobody voices any objections to female spacers, especially when they need to expand their navy to defend against the Ryall.

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* Exists to a lesser degree in the ''Literature/{{Antares}}'' novels - -- female spacers are a rarity on Alta. It is explained as a cultural holdover from when they needed to populate their world, women were expected to produce many children, and therefore avoided dangerous occupations. That said, nobody voices any objections to female spacers, especially when they need to expand their navy to defend against the Ryall.



* ''Series/DoctorWho'', due to being a LongRunner from the 1960s, has its share of this across the decades. The oldest serials will often play it straight due to the time period, but as the show wore on and Women's Lib took place in the real world, this trope tended be deliberately invoked to show the strength of the female leads when she proved them wrong. Given that the show is themed around time travel, this trope most often rears its head when the Doctor and his companions end up in the past and interact with people from far less progressive time periods, providing a scene where the woman from the present has to handle the culture shock. Some specifics examples of this trope in play include:

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'', due to being a LongRunner from the 1960s, has its share of this across the decades. decades.
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The oldest serials will often play it straight due to the time period, but as the show wore on and Women's Lib took place in the real world, this trope tended be deliberately invoked to show the strength of the female leads when she proved them wrong. Given that the show is themed around time travel, this trope most often rears its head when the Doctor and his companions end up in the past and interact with people from far less progressive time periods, providing a scene where the woman from the present has to handle the culture shock. Some specifics examples of this trope in play include:



* Inspector Series/SledgeHammer doesn't approve of his partner being a woman, which at one point leads to the following exchange:

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* ''Series/SledgeHammer'': Inspector Series/SledgeHammer Sledge Hammer doesn't approve of his partner being a woman, which at one point leads to the following exchange:



* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' played with this particular trope often, mostly because the ActionGirl protagonist bore a really strong resemblance to a very soft, slender, feminine teenage girl. Typically, however, it is played for humor.
-->'''Riley:''' I'm taking you home. Come on.\\

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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' played with this particular trope often, mostly because the ActionGirl protagonist bore a really strong resemblance to a very soft, slender, feminine teenage girl. Merely suggesting this is a good way to get Buffy to punch you in the face.
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Typically, however, it is played for humor.
-->'''Riley:''' --->'''Riley:''' I'm taking you home. Come on.\\



** Merely suggesting this is a good way to get Buffy to punch you in the face.



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* One of the reasons Anthony's marriage to Therese in ''ComicStrip/ForBetterOrForWorse'' failed is that he somehow expected her to do this trope and give up her highly successful career in finance after the birth of their daughter...and is completely shocked that she went back to her career. This being For Better or For Worse, though, [[WriterOnBoard we're supposed to see Therese as the bad guy]]. (What makes it worse is that Anthony promised to be the HouseHusband when he convinced Therese to get pregnant, and more or less went back on his word after her birth to chase after [[StrangledByTheRedString Liz]].)
** Liz had a more traditionally female career of teaching, and her sister-in-law Deanna gave up her career as a pharmacist to-get this-''run a sewing school''.
** This is PlayedForLaughs in an earlier storyline, where the family visits relatives on a farm. The relatives' neighbor is a farmer with rather old-fashioned values, and at one point the aunt tells Elly that he doesn't think women are intelligent enough for good conversation and that their place is in the kitchen. The last panel shows the farmer dully commenting to John and the uncle on how it looks like rain. Another comic has Elly drive a tractor out to the fields. She reflects how easy, carefree, and fun the job is. The last panel has the farmer interrupting her, telling her "You get on home now, little lady. This here is men's work."
* In ''ComicStrip/{{Blonde}}'', Dagwood at first objected furiously to Blonde starting her own catering business, as he was opposed to her working; he changed his mind quickly once she told him her predicted profit margin and realized he could [[BigEater help inspect what she made]] for her inventory.
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* One of the reasons Anthony's marriage to Therese in ''ComicStrip/ForBetterOrForWorse'' failed is that he somehow expected her to do this trope and give up her highly successful career in finance after the birth of their daughter...and is completely shocked that she went back to her career. This being For Better or For Worse, though, [[WriterOnBoard we're supposed to see Therese as the bad guy]]. (What makes it worse is that Anthony promised to be the HouseHusband when he convinced Therese to get pregnant, and more or less went back on his word after her birth to chase after [[StrangledByTheRedString Liz]].)
** Liz had a more traditionally female career of teaching, and her sister-in-law Deanna gave up her career as a pharmacist to-get this-''run a sewing school''.
** This is PlayedForLaughs in an earlier storyline, where the family visits relatives on a farm. The relatives' neighbor is a farmer with rather old-fashioned values, and at one point the aunt tells Elly that he doesn't think women are intelligent enough for good conversation and that their place is in the kitchen. The last panel shows the farmer dully commenting to John and the uncle on how it looks like rain. Another comic has Elly drive a tractor out to the fields. She reflects how easy, carefree, and fun the job is. The last panel has the farmer interrupting her, telling her "You get on home now, little lady. This here is men's work."
* In ''ComicStrip/{{Blonde}}'', Dagwood at first objected furiously to Blonde starting her own catering business, as he was opposed to her working; he changed his mind quickly once she told him her predicted profit margin and realized he could [[BigEater help inspect what she made]] for her inventory.
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* TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}: In the Sword Worlds most woman do this except for the more eccentric ones. The Sword Worlds are a blatantly patriarchal society though not as extreme as some in this regard.
** Swordworlders almost worship homes and consider hearthfires sacred symbols. The {{housewife}} is considered the family priestess among them. They are also expected to be informal diplomats and find face-savers for times when [[HonorBeforeReason Honor conflicts too much with Reason.]]

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* TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}: TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}:
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In the Sword Worlds most woman do this except for the more eccentric ones. The Sword Worlds are a blatantly patriarchal society though not as extreme as some in this regard.
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regard. Swordworlders almost worship homes and consider hearthfires sacred symbols. The {{housewife}} is considered the family priestess among them. They are also expected to be informal diplomats and find face-savers for times when [[HonorBeforeReason Honor conflicts too much with Reason.]]



* Averted (sort of) in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer40000}}''. In lore, pretty much none of the significant factions have any compulsions against sending women off to fight alongside the men - the setting is enough of a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] that everyone needs all the help they can get and anyone capable of firing a weapon - including children, in the Imperium's case, and the dead if you have a crystal/robot for them to inhabit - are fair game for military service. However, in actual gameplay, very few of the armies have actual female models (even ones like the Imperial Guard or Eldar which, canonically, rely on females as much as males) and the one all-female army - the Sisters of Battle - are the game's most poorly-supported and lowest-selling army. Creator/GamesWorkshop has stated that the reason for this is because female models don't sell well, although their critics suggest it's because the model lines are not supported well by the company (the aforementioned Sisters being the best example of that).

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* Averted (sort of) in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer40000}}''. ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000''. In lore, pretty much none of the significant factions have any compulsions against sending women off to fight alongside the men - -- the setting is enough of a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Galaxy]] that everyone needs all the help they can get and anyone capable of firing a weapon - -- including children, in the Imperium's case, and the dead if you have a crystal/robot for them to inhabit - -- are fair game for military service. However, in actual gameplay, very few of the armies have actual female models (even ones like the Imperial Guard or Eldar which, canonically, rely on females as much as males) and the one all-female army - -- the Sisters of Battle - -- are the game's most poorly-supported and lowest-selling army. Creator/GamesWorkshop has stated that the reason for this is because female models don't sell well, although their critics suggest it's because the model lines are not supported well by the company (the aforementioned Sisters being the best example of that).



* Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' spent most of Disc 1 falling into these speeches, though Aerith unfailingly objected.
-->'''Cloud:''' You gotta be kidding. Why do you want to put yourself in danger again?\\

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* ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'':
** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'':
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Cloud of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' spent spends most of Disc 1 falling into these speeches, though Aerith unfailingly objected.
-->'''Cloud:'''
objects. If Aerith hadn't gone with Cloud, she couldn't have saved the World at the very end of the game, and then ''everybody'' would have died.
---->'''Cloud:'''
You gotta be kidding. Why do you want to put yourself in danger again?\\



'''Cloud:''' Used to it!? ......Well, don't know... getting help from a girl...\\
'''Aerith:''' A girl!! What do you mean by that!? You expect me to just sit by and listen, after hearing you say something like that!? (to Elmyra) Mom! I'm taking Cloud to Sector 7. I'll be back in a while.
** If Aerith hadn't gone with Cloud, she couldn't have saved the World at the very end of the game, and then ''everybody'' would have died.
** Strangely, he never talks to Tifa like this. Although it could have something to do with the fact that [[ActionGirl Tifa has a black belt in martial arts]], is a licensed outdoor survival guide, AND a key member of a high-profile eco-terrorist group, whereas Aerith sold flowers and didn't seem to have any real fighting experience. Also, [[CuteBruiser Tifa]] ''[[PowerFist punches tanks with her fist]]''. And at one point while he's lecturing Aerith, she even calls him out about his double-standard between her and Tifa - "So it's alright for Tifa to be in danger?", to which he weakly responds, "No, I don't want Tifa in...". Tifa, who made Cloud promise to protect her if she was ever in trouble and has fixated upon this idea, seems to want to be protected more than Aerith, who makes Cloud her bodyguard but otherwise acts autonomously (at one point even telling Cloud "Don't tell me to go home.")
* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'', Cecil insists that Rydia and Rosa not accompany the party back to the Moon after defeating the Giant of Bab-il, because it's too dangerous. Both of them stow away in the Big Whale's cargo hold and insist upon going along anyway. One wonders how he was planning to survive without taking the team's only dedicated healer and spell caster. He apparently thinks of it as a suicide mission and doesn't want to see two people he cares deeply for die, but there's a very small chance of it ''being'' a suicide mission if he took the two most powerful spellcasters on the planet instead of ditching them. Edge, meanwhile, is a bit more misogynistic about leaving Rydia behind.
** Earlier in the same game, the king of Fabul insists that Rydia and Rosa stay behind to care for the wounded while the men go off to defend the castle. Ostensibly, this is because they were the only ones present with healing magic and they would be needed elsewhere. As the men fail at protecting the castle alone, one would think Cecil would later remember the value of keeping the two of them close in the battle party.
* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' it is revealed that the Viera invert this trope. To date, none of the Ivalice games have depicted a male Viera.

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'''Cloud:''' Used to it!? ......it!? ...Well, don't know... getting help from a girl...\\
'''Aerith:''' A girl!! What do you mean by that!? You expect me to just sit by and listen, after hearing you say something like that!? (to Elmyra) ''[to Elmyra]'' Mom! I'm taking Cloud to Sector 7. I'll be back in a while.
** If Aerith hadn't gone with Cloud, she couldn't have saved the World at the very end of the game, and then ''everybody'' would have died.
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*** Strangely, he never talks to Tifa like this. Although it could have something to do with the fact that [[ActionGirl Tifa has a black belt in martial arts]], is a licensed outdoor survival guide, AND a key member of a high-profile eco-terrorist group, whereas Aerith sold flowers and didn't seem to have any real fighting experience. Also, [[CuteBruiser Tifa]] ''[[PowerFist punches tanks with her fist]]''. And at one point while he's lecturing Aerith, she even calls him out about his double-standard between her and Tifa - -- "So it's alright for Tifa to be in danger?", to which he weakly responds, "No, I don't want Tifa in...". Tifa, who made Cloud promise to protect her if she was ever in trouble and has fixated upon this idea, seems to want to be protected more than Aerith, who makes Cloud her bodyguard but otherwise acts autonomously (at one point even telling Cloud "Don't tell me to go home.")
* ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'', Cecil insists that Rydia and Rosa not accompany the party back to the Moon after defeating the Giant of Bab-il, because it's too dangerous. Both of them stow away in the Big Whale's cargo hold and insist upon going along anyway. One wonders how he was planning to survive without taking the team's only dedicated healer and spell caster. He apparently thinks of it as a suicide mission and doesn't want to see two people he cares deeply for die, but there's a very small chance of it ''being'' a suicide mission if he took the two most powerful spellcasters on the planet instead of ditching them. Edge, meanwhile, is a bit more misogynistic about leaving Rydia behind.
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behind. Earlier in the same game, the king of Fabul insists that Rydia and Rosa stay behind to care for the wounded while the men go off to defend the castle. Ostensibly, this is because they were the only ones present with healing magic and they would be needed elsewhere. As the men fail at protecting the castle alone, one would think Cecil would later remember the value of keeping the two of them close in the battle party.
* ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' it is revealed that the Viera invert this trope. To date, none of the Ivalice games have depicted a male Viera.



*** A similar situation happened for the Miqo'te, another cat race, in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' until there was demand from fans to include male versions. Now you got cat girls and boys.
* In ''[[FireEmblem Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones]]'', around Chapter 10 (Eirika's path), if you rescue Innes the Archer with his Pegasus Knight sister Tana, Innes almost immediately tells her to "stop playing soldier and go home". This is explained later in their supports as being a part of Innes' BigBrotherInstinct: he thinks Tana is too innocent and inexperienced (and she has just finished her Peg Knight training), therefore he wants to spare her from the horrors of war but handles it so bad that Tana resents him. Innes' attitude is similar with LadyOfWar Eirika, and slightly towards WhiteMage L'Arachel, especially in their support conversations -- he refuses to let a woman guard him even when injured or exhausted. Nobody reacts well to this attitude - Innes is often portrayed as [[{{Jerkass}} overly arrogant or narrow-minded]].
** This doesn't come up as much in his supports with the Pegasus Knight Vanessa, whom he often praises for her skill and her maturity. As much, Innes says that she was JustAKid when they met, but she's grown up into a great knight and suggests that they are unstoppable as a team. This might have something to do with Vanessa's lifelong status as a Pegasus Knight in his charge - Pegasus Knights are ''always'' female (because Pegasi don't trust men enough to fly on them) and are expected to guard his entire family.
* In ''[[FireEmblem Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance]]'', the [[http://www.serenesforest.net/fe9/support/046.html Mia/Largo supports]] involve LargeHam Largo mentioning this to GenkiGirl Mia, HilarityEnsues. This trope is apparently why Mia is so obsessed with her sword play.
* And in ''[[FireEmblem Fire Emblem: Genealogy of Holy War]]'', Beowolf has a conversation with Raquesis where he''fakes'' this attitude toward her before offering to help her train. Later, Seliph tried to dissuade his cleric friend [[WhiteMage Lana]] ([[StaticRoleExchangeableCharacter or Mana]]) to stay in Tilnanogue while and he and his merry friend (which includes Larcei ([[StaticRoleExchangeableCharacter or Radney]]), an ActionGirl) go on the battlefield, because "Nuns and warfare DO NOT MIX". He's quickly talked out of it, and he apologizes. Amusingly, this sort of shows up in his later conversation with his lover. In most cases, he admits that he's afraid of losing her, which is why he wants her to stay back. Larcei (or Radney) is once again the sole exception, with Seliph only asking if something's bothering her.
* Sora did this with Kairi in ''KingdomHearts'', claiming coming with him to the final world was "too dangerous" and that she "would kinda be in his way". Thankfully in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' Kairi gets to participate in the final world and [[spoiler:fight the Heartless with a keyblade given to her by Riku]]. Justified in the first game in that Kairi was unarmed, had no combat experience, and no way of defending herself. By the second game, she'd had several years... plus access to a weapon of her own. Sora also regularly tells armed men to leave the battlefield, a notable (and particularly funny) example being Shang in Land of Dragons.

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*** ** A similar situation happened for the Miqo'te, another cat race, in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' until there was demand from fans to include male versions. Now you got cat girls and boys.
* In ''[[FireEmblem Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones]]'', around ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'':
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'':
*** Around
Chapter 10 (Eirika's path), if you rescue Innes the Archer with his Pegasus Knight sister Tana, Innes almost immediately tells her to "stop playing soldier and go home". This is explained later in their supports as being a part of Innes' BigBrotherInstinct: he thinks Tana is too innocent and inexperienced (and she has just finished her Peg Knight training), therefore he wants to spare her from the horrors of war but handles it so bad that Tana resents him. Innes' attitude is similar with LadyOfWar Eirika, and slightly towards WhiteMage L'Arachel, especially in their support conversations -- he refuses to let a woman guard him even when injured or exhausted. Nobody reacts well to this attitude - -- Innes is often portrayed as [[{{Jerkass}} overly arrogant or narrow-minded]].
** *** This doesn't come up as much in his supports with the Pegasus Knight Vanessa, whom he often praises for her skill and her maturity. As much, Innes says that she was JustAKid when they met, but she's grown up into a great knight and suggests that they are unstoppable as a team. This might have something to do with Vanessa's lifelong status as a Pegasus Knight in his charge - Pegasus Knights are ''always'' female (because Pegasi don't trust men enough to fly on them) and are expected to guard his entire family.
* ** In ''[[FireEmblem Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance]]'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'', the [[http://www.serenesforest.net/fe9/support/046.html Mia/Largo supports]] involve LargeHam Largo mentioning this to GenkiGirl Mia, HilarityEnsues. This trope is apparently why Mia is so obsessed with her sword play.
* ** And in ''[[FireEmblem ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', Beowolf has a conversation with Raquesis where he''fakes'' this attitude toward her before offering to help her train. Later, Seliph tried to dissuade his cleric friend [[WhiteMage Lana]] ([[StaticRoleExchangeableCharacter or Mana]]) to stay in Tilnanogue while and he and his merry friend (which includes Larcei ([[StaticRoleExchangeableCharacter or Radney]]), an ActionGirl) go on the battlefield, because "Nuns and warfare DO NOT MIX". He's quickly talked out of it, and he apologizes. Amusingly, this sort of shows up in his later conversation with his lover. In most cases, he admits that he's afraid of losing her, which is why he wants her to stay back. Larcei (or Radney) is once again the sole exception, with Seliph only asking if something's bothering her.
* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': Sora did does this with Kairi in ''KingdomHearts'', Kairi, claiming coming with him to the final world was "too dangerous" and that she "would kinda be in his way". way".
**
Thankfully in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' Kairi gets to participate in the final world and [[spoiler:fight the Heartless with a keyblade given to her by Riku]]. Justified in the first game in that Kairi was unarmed, had no combat experience, and no way of defending herself. By the second game, she'd had several years... plus access to a weapon of her own. Sora also regularly tells armed men to leave the battlefield, a notable (and particularly funny) example being Shang in Land of Dragons.



** [[spoiler:Despite the ending of the last numbered title, in the secret ending for ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'', Kairi has to stay behind while Sora and Riku leave again for the Mark of Mastery exam. At least this time there's still the justification that someone has to stay behind and keep the island safe.]]
*** This one ''is'' thoroughly justified; the boys in question are going off to get tested for mastery of, among other things, combat, and they've had over a year of intense preparation. The young lady, however, is merely a novice regarding those matters and it's just a matter of time until she can join them. [[spoiler: The secret ending of ''Dream Drop Distance'' implies she's going to be getting intense Keyblade training for the upcoming battle.]]

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** [[spoiler:Despite the ending of the last numbered title, in the secret ending for ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'', Kairi has to stay behind while Sora and Riku leave again for the Mark of Mastery exam. At least this time there's still the justification that someone has to stay behind and keep the island safe.]]
***
]] This one ''is'' thoroughly justified; the boys in question are going off to get tested for mastery of, among other things, combat, and they've had over a year of intense preparation. The young lady, however, is merely a novice regarding those matters and it's just a matter of time until she can join them. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The secret ending of ''Dream Drop Distance'' implies she's going to be getting intense Keyblade training for the upcoming battle.]]



* In ''OnePiece: Unlimited Adventure'', shortly before the final battle, Sanji tells Nami and Robin to stay back. Nami, however, insists that she and Robin are strong, too, and Robin notes that "it would be impossible to travel with such super-human people otherwise."
* In ''VideoGame/LufiaIIRiseOfTheSinistrals'', Maxim pulls this several times on Tia and Selan. The first few times, the girls tell him where to shove it. The results are different - Selan never needs help, being a mighty general and extremely talented. Tia, however, needs a fair amount of rescuing, but the plot makes sure to note that this is because she's a shopkeeper with no real desire to fight except to keep close to Maxim. When Maxim marries at the end of the first act of the game, Tia returns to her shop as she has no more reason to fight.
** In the run-up to what everyone believes will be the FinalBattle, Maxim actually tells the girls ''why'' he wants them out of the fight: they're the only ones who can coordinate an urgent evacuation effort. It works.
** Then, after Maxim and Selan marry and have a child, it's time to fight again. Maxim tries this, but Selan won't have it.
* Matheld, a female character from ''VideoGame/MountAndBlade'' makes it clear that if she is treated like some sort of housewife on the battlefield, she will break the character's neck. She gets along well with the team's warrior poet though. Being a former Viking helps too.

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* In ''OnePiece: ''Manga/OnePiece: Unlimited Adventure'', shortly before the final battle, Sanji tells Nami and Robin to stay back. Nami, however, insists that she and Robin are strong, too, and Robin notes that "it would be impossible to travel with such super-human people otherwise."
* In ''VideoGame/LufiaIIRiseOfTheSinistrals'', Maxim pulls this several times on Tia and Selan. The first few times, the girls tell him where to shove it. The results are different - -- Selan never needs help, being a mighty general and extremely talented. Tia, however, needs a fair amount of rescuing, but the plot makes sure to note that this is because she's a shopkeeper with no real desire to fight except to keep close to Maxim. When Maxim marries at the end of the first act of the game, Tia returns to her shop as she has no more reason to fight.
**
fight. In the run-up to what everyone believes will be the FinalBattle, Maxim actually tells the girls ''why'' he wants them out of the fight: they're the only ones who can coordinate an urgent evacuation effort. It works.
**
works. Then, after Maxim and Selan marry and have a child, it's time to fight again. Maxim tries this, but Selan won't have it.
* ''VideoGame/MountAndBlade'':
**
Matheld, a female character from ''VideoGame/MountAndBlade'' character, makes it clear that if she is treated like some sort of housewife on the battlefield, she will break the character's neck. She gets along well with the team's warrior poet though. Being a former Viking helps too.



** [[TheBigGuy Sten]] from ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' has a very comprehensive list of the professions of women (priests, shopkeepers, farmers, administrators), as the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy qunari]] believe these are the jobs meant for them - [[ValuesDissonance choice has no factor in it]]. This [[SubvertedTrope also applies to men]] (laborers, soldiers, officers), hinting that the Qunari believe men to be stronger but less intelligent or charismatic. If you're using a [[ActionGirl female]] PlayerCharacter, he says that either she isn't a woman or isn't a warrior. The former seems more likely to him.

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** [[TheBigGuy Sten]] from ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' has a very comprehensive list of the professions of women (priests, shopkeepers, farmers, administrators), as the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy qunari]] believe these are the jobs meant for them - -- [[ValuesDissonance choice has no factor in it]]. This [[SubvertedTrope also applies to men]] (laborers, soldiers, officers), hinting that the Qunari believe men to be stronger but less intelligent or charismatic. If you're using a [[ActionGirl female]] PlayerCharacter, he says that either she isn't a woman or isn't a warrior. The former seems more likely to him.



** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' we learn that female Qunari ''can'' serve in combat roles, with the major distinction apparently being that while they can have jobs involving fighting, they [[ExactWords are not soldiers or warriors]]; the Ben-Hassrath, an organization in the Qunari priest caste, are similar to the Templars, though rather than direct might they seem to prefer highly directed force, non violent or otherwise. This ranges from assassination of or spying on a political enemy, to kidnapping and re-educating important figures or vashoth; those who have left the Qun. Qunari society is divided into three castes. The Antaam handles military and labor, and are always male. The matriarchy handles administration and infrastructure, and are always female. The priests are responsible for education and enforcing the qun, and can be either sex, because the wisdom of the Qun speaks to everyone. [[Creator/FeliciaDay Tallis]] is a prime example. She is a female elf sold into slavery and then taken by the Qunari, who converted and trained her as an agent of the Ben-Hassrath. Her role, as reflected in her name/rank ("tallis" means "to solve" in Qunari) is to hunt down escaped Saarebas (Qunari mages, literally "dangerous thing"). Female priests may or may not have roles that require them to fight, [[ExactWords but they are not soldiers or warriors]].

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** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' we learn that female Qunari ''can'' serve in combat roles, with the major distinction apparently being that while they can have jobs involving fighting, they [[ExactWords are not soldiers or warriors]]; the Ben-Hassrath, an organization in the Qunari priest caste, are similar to the Templars, though rather than direct might they seem to prefer highly directed force, non violent non-violent or otherwise. This ranges from assassination of or spying on a political enemy, to kidnapping and re-educating important figures or vashoth; those who have left the Qun. Qunari society is divided into three castes. The Antaam handles military and labor, and are always male. The matriarchy handles administration and infrastructure, and are always female. The priests are responsible for education and enforcing the qun, and can be either sex, because the wisdom of the Qun speaks to everyone. [[Creator/FeliciaDay Tallis]] is a prime example. She is a female elf sold into slavery and then taken by the Qunari, who converted and trained her as an agent of the Ben-Hassrath. Her role, as reflected in her name/rank ("tallis" means "to solve" in Qunari) is to hunt down escaped Saarebas (Qunari mages, literally "dangerous thing"). Female priests may or may not have roles that require them to fight, [[ExactWords but they are not soldiers or warriors]].



* [[VideoGame/QuestForGlory Elsa von Spielburg]] received this treatment a lot. When she managed to learn sword fighting by watching the castle guard training, the [[{{Jerkass}} swordsmaster]] refused to formally train her because she was a girl. When the hero finally reaches her, she (now the Brigand Leader thanks to being BrainwashedAndCrazy) is so skilled she can kill him in one blow... and right after being rescued, her asshole of a brother tries to keep her from being a warrior. By the time [=QFG5=] begins, she has already proven herself a hero in her own right, and spends most of the game in second or first place in the Rites of Rulership. And yet, everyone still thinks she's incapable of fighting (despite being the best fighter in the series), is incapable of ruling a kingdom (despite running a massively successful bandit gang), and should just leave the contest to the men (despite two dying very quickly, one being a FrankensteinsMonster, and the last in it for other reasons).

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* [[VideoGame/QuestForGlory ''VideoGame/QuestForGlory'': Elsa von Spielburg]] received Spielburg receives this treatment a lot. When she managed manages to learn sword fighting by watching the castle guard training, the [[{{Jerkass}} swordsmaster]] refused refuses to formally train her because she was is a girl. When the hero finally reaches her, she (now the Brigand Leader thanks to being BrainwashedAndCrazy) is so skilled she can kill him in one blow... and right after being rescued, her asshole of a brother tries to keep her from being a warrior. By the time [=QFG5=] begins, she has already proven herself a hero in her own right, and spends most of the game in second or first place in the Rites of Rulership. And yet, everyone still thinks she's incapable of fighting (despite being the best fighter in the series), is incapable of ruling a kingdom (despite running a massively successful bandit gang), and should just leave the contest to the men (despite two dying very quickly, one being a FrankensteinsMonster, and the last in it for other reasons).



* The female Gender Role Doll advertized in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIVTheLostAndDamned'' enforces this among other [[GenderAndSexualityTropes gender-specific tropes]].

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* The female Gender Role Doll advertized advertised in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIVTheLostAndDamned'' enforces this among other [[GenderAndSexualityTropes gender-specific tropes]].



---> '''Elly''': Men like someone to watch the home when they are fighting. They can't fight if they don't have the peace of mind that they will have somewhere to return to.
* VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles pulls a RuleAbidingRebel version of this trope. Alicia gives up her ActionGirl schtick by way of marriage and motherhood; she does get to run a bakery like she always wanted, but despite being [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming so sweet it might shut down your pancreas]]the impact that has on the ending is purely cosmetic, [[spoiler: since it still has Welkin coming home from work to find his wife cooking and looking after their little girl.]]
* Junpei in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3 Portable}}'''s female path is offended and irritated that in a group of three girls he's not the one in charge, though Mitsuru shuts him down hard before he can keep complaining about it. Eventually, he grows out of the attitude and his social link puts a more positive spin on the idea.

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---> '''Elly''': --->'''Elly:''' Men like someone to watch the home when they are fighting. They can't fight if they don't have the peace of mind that they will have somewhere to return to.
* VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles ''VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles'' pulls a RuleAbidingRebel version of this trope. Alicia gives up her ActionGirl schtick by way of marriage and motherhood; she does get to run a bakery like she always wanted, but despite being [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming so sweet it might shut down your pancreas]]the impact that has on the ending is purely cosmetic, [[spoiler: since it still has Welkin coming home from work to find his wife cooking and looking after their little girl.]]
* Junpei in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3 Portable}}'''s ''VideoGame/Persona3Portable'''s female path is offended and irritated that in a group of three girls he's not the one in charge, though Mitsuru shuts him down hard before he can keep complaining about it. Eventually, he grows out of the attitude and his social link puts a more positive spin on the idea.



* Godot, in the third game in the ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' series, spends most of the game hating Phoenix for not protecting [[spoiler:Mia, with whom Godot had been in love]], never mind that she was stronger and more capable than Phoenix was at that point, and there probably wasn't much that Phoenix could have done about the situation. In the end, he forgives Phoenix -- not because he realizes that the woman in question was responsible for her own life, but because he realizes that he was angry at himself the whole time for not being able to protect her, [[NeverMyFault and was trying to blame Phoenix to avoid admitting that]], and the entire thing could have been avoided if [[spoiler:Godot had just let Pearl and Maya in on the plan to begin with, thus making sure Dahlia was never channeled to begin with. His opinion of most of the younger Fey line seems to be fairly low]].

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* ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'':
**
Godot, in the third game in of the ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' series, spends most of the game hating Phoenix for not protecting [[spoiler:Mia, with whom Godot had been in love]], never mind that she was stronger and more capable than Phoenix was at that point, and there probably wasn't much that Phoenix could have done about the situation. In the end, he forgives Phoenix -- not because he realizes that the woman in question was responsible for her own life, but because he realizes that he was angry at himself the whole time for not being able to protect her, [[NeverMyFault and was trying to blame Phoenix to avoid admitting that]], and the entire thing could have been avoided if [[spoiler:Godot had just let Pearl and Maya in on the plan to begin with, thus making sure Dahlia was never channeled to begin with. His opinion of most of the younger Fey line seems to be fairly low]].



** At one point, Tedd mentioned being better at cooking [[GenderBender as a female]]. Upon realizing that it sounds like this trope, he quickly elaborates that it isn't that he thinks women are inherently better at cooking, it's just the he's had more experience cooking on his own while female than he has as a male[[note]]He, for understandable reasons, felt more comfortable testing out the gender-bender functions of his devices when his dad ''wasn't'' home -- which was also the times when he had to make his own dinner[[/note]].

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** At one point, Tedd mentioned mentions being better at cooking [[GenderBender as a female]]. Upon realizing that it sounds like this trope, he quickly elaborates that it isn't that he thinks women are inherently better at cooking, it's just the he's had more experience cooking on his own while female than he has as a male[[note]]He, for understandable reasons, felt more comfortable testing out the gender-bender functions of his devices when his dad ''wasn't'' home -- which was also the times when he had to make his own dinner[[/note]].



* ''{{Tasakeru}}'': Zero does the sweet-and-misguided version of this to Hanami, ostensibly because his {{Samurai}} training has drilled the concept of chivalry into him since birth, [[spoiler:and also because [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther he really does care about Hanami]]]].

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* ''{{Tasakeru}}'': ''Literature/{{Tasakeru}}'': Zero does the sweet-and-misguided version of this to Hanami, ostensibly because his {{Samurai}} training has drilled the concept of chivalry into him since birth, [[spoiler:and also because [[AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther he really does care about Hanami]]]].



--> '''Woman:''' Women...girls...''back'' to our kitchens! ''[Women leave]''\\

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--> '''Woman:''' Women...girls... girls... ''back'' to our kitchens! ''[Women ''[women leave]''\\



* Notable in that it is not only [[AvertedTrope averted]] but is never [[DefiedTrope even]] [[InvokedTrope brought up]] in {{Literature/Worm}}. Then again while it's a close count heroines are probably the majority if anything, with a [[MrExposition background lecture]] mentioning that there are more female parahumans then male. Possibly the lack of any notable sexism is due to the cultural effect of this.
* [[DesignatedHero Vegeta]] maintains this attitude around [[{{Cyborg}} Android 18]] during their fight in ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged''. By the time it gets to him calling her a "smug [[spoiler:[[CountryMatters cunt]]]]", he's practically asking for 18 to apply her boot to his arm and break it. [[TranquilFury So]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown she]] [[CurbStompBattle does]].

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* Notable in that it is not only [[AvertedTrope averted]] but is never [[DefiedTrope even]] [[InvokedTrope brought up]] in {{Literature/Worm}}.''Literature/{{Worm}}''. Then again while it's a close count heroines are probably the majority if anything, with a [[MrExposition background lecture]] mentioning that there are more female parahumans then male. Possibly the lack of any notable sexism is due to the cultural effect of this.
* [[DesignatedHero Vegeta]] maintains this attitude around [[{{Cyborg}} Android 18]] during their fight in ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged''. By the time it gets to him calling her a "smug [[spoiler:[[CountryMatters cunt]]]]", he's practically asking for 18 to apply her boot to his arm and break it. [[TranquilFury So]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown she]] [[CurbStompBattle does]].
this.



* In ''WebVideo/SwordArtOnlineAbridged'', [[spoiler:Grimlock]] states that [[spoiler:Griselda not adhering to this trope]] is a valid reason for killing her that any man would agree with. Long story short, [[YouMonster even]] ''[[{{Sociopath}} Kirito]]'' [[EveryoneHasStandards was disgusted]].



* {{Lampshaded}} by Donatello in an episode of the first series of ''TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'': "No, April. It's too dangerous. You wouldn't last 5 minutes in a ninja pizza parlor!" [turns towards FourthWall] "I ''love'' saying lines like that!"

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* {{Lampshaded}} by Donatello in an episode of the first series of ''TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'': ''WesternAnimation/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|1987}}'': "No, April. It's too dangerous. You wouldn't last 5 minutes in a ninja pizza parlor!" [turns towards FourthWall] "I ''love'' saying lines like that!"



* One ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' episode had the Sultan tell Jasmine it was too dangerous and she should stay behind. Never mind that she'd already [[TookALevelInBadass taken a level in badass]] between the movie and the series, and that there was a semiphenomenal, nearly cosmic genie around. She responds to this by disguising herself as one of the guards and saving Aladdin.

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* One ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' ''WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries'' episode had has the Sultan tell Jasmine it was is too dangerous and she should stay behind. Never mind that she'd already [[TookALevelInBadass taken a level in badass]] between the movie and the series, and that there was is a semiphenomenal, nearly cosmic genie around. She responds to this by disguising herself as one of the guards and saving Aladdin.



* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "She Used To Be My Girl". At a conference for women, Homer tells Marge to stay there while he goes to rescue Lisa, whereupon he's booed by the women. He then says that ''he'll'' stay there, and Marge can go and rescue Lisa, to which he's booed at again. Homer then asks the women what they want (and both he and Marge end up going).

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
**
Played with in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' in episode "She Used To Be My Girl". At a conference for women, Homer tells Marge to stay there while he goes to rescue Lisa, whereupon he's booed by the women. He then says that ''he'll'' stay there, and Marge can go and rescue Lisa, to which he's booed at again. Homer then asks the women what they want (and both he and Marge end up going).



--> '''Mr. Burns''': We all ''know'' what you think.

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--> '''Mr. Burns''': --->'''Mr. Burns:''' We all ''know'' what you think.



-->'''Leela:''' I'm going to remind Fry of his humanity the way only a woman can.\\

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-->'''Leela:''' --->'''Leela:''' I'm going to remind Fry of his humanity the way only a woman can.\\



--> '''Salesman:''' This baby can cook a roast in five hours.
--> '''Professor Farnsworth: ''' Ohh, that's good news! You know, you really don't cook enough roasts, Leela.
--> '''Leela:''' *sets his tie on fire with a burner*

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--> '''Salesman:''' --->'''Salesman:''' This baby can cook a roast in five hours.
-->
hours.\\
'''Professor Farnsworth: ''' Farnsworth:''' Ohh, that's good news! You know, you really don't cook enough roasts, Leela.
--> '''Leela:''' *sets
Leela.\\
''[Leela sets
his tie on fire with a burner*burner]''



--> "Man or woman, a sick mind is capable of anything."\\
"A very enlightened statement, Batman. We'll carve it on your headstone."
* Self-inflicted variation in ''ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'': a faulty DNA test convinces Skipper he's actually female, and so he intentionally starts acting in a way he considers feminine, e.g. by [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics wearing a pink bow]], refusing to get into "dangerous" situations, and (horror of horrors) ''[[DirectionlessDriver asking for directions.]]''
* A variation of this occurs in ''Ben10UltimateAlien'' after Kevin's HeelFaceTurn. After Kevin suffers WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity, Ben insists that he's too far gone and it's time to ShootTheDog. Gwen continues argue they should find another way with Ben, and later Max, both state that she should just stay out of the way.
** More because [[ActionGirl Gwen]] is Kevin's girlfriend then anything else, she would try and stop them.
** There's also an example of this in the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' series. When the Ben, Gwen, and Max arrive at a Navajo festival they're attacked by an alien that is first believed to be a Yenaldooshi. When Wes, an old friend of Max's, prepares to go out and track it down, he refuses to allow his granddaughter to join them and says "only Braves (men) are allowed to track." This also extends to Gwen, who obviously objects and has been helping since the beginning, but Max simply replies "Their land, their rules."

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--> "Man -->'''Batman:''' Man or woman, a sick mind is capable of anything."\\
"A
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'''Poison Ivy:''' A
very enlightened statement, Batman. We'll carve it on your headstone."
headstone.
* Self-inflicted variation in ''ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'': ''WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'': a faulty DNA test convinces Skipper he's actually female, and so he intentionally starts acting in a way he considers feminine, e.g. by [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics wearing a pink bow]], refusing to get into "dangerous" situations, and (horror of horrors) ''[[DirectionlessDriver asking for directions.]]''
* ''Franchise/Ben10'':
**
A variation of this occurs in ''Ben10UltimateAlien'' ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' after Kevin's HeelFaceTurn. After Kevin suffers WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity, Ben insists that he's too far gone and it's time to ShootTheDog. Gwen continues to argue they should find another way with Ben, and later Max, both state that she should just stay out of the way.
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way. More because [[ActionGirl Gwen]] is Kevin's girlfriend then anything else, she would try and stop them.
** There's also an example of this in the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' series. When the Ben, Gwen, and Max arrive at a Navajo festival they're attacked by an alien that is first believed to be a Yenaldooshi. When Wes, an old friend of Max's, prepares to go out and track it down, he refuses to allow his granddaughter to join them and says "only Braves (men) are allowed to track." This also extends to Gwen, who obviously objects and has been helping since the beginning, but Max simply replies "Their land, their rules."



* Duke Igthorn says this almost ver batim in the ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'' episode "You Snooze, You Lose" while attacking Castle Dunwyn:
-->'''Calla:''' Your ogres won't get in here without a smarter general!
-->'''Igthorn:''' Why don't you run off to the kitchen, little girl, and make me some tea? I'll be joining you in just a moment!
-->'''[[TomboyPrincess Calla:]]''' What's ''that'' supposed to mean?!
** One minute later, Calla's catapulted him into the woods.]

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* Duke Igthorn says this almost ver batim verbatim in the ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'' episode "You Snooze, You Lose" while attacking Castle Dunwyn:
-->'''Calla:''' Your ogres won't get in here without a smarter general!
-->'''Igthorn:'''
general!\\
'''Igthorn:'''
Why don't you run off to the kitchen, little girl, and make me some tea? I'll be joining you in just a moment!
-->'''[[TomboyPrincess
moment!\\
'''[[TomboyPrincess
Calla:]]''' What's ''that'' supposed to mean?!
** One
mean?!\\
''[one
minute later, Calla's catapulted him into the woods.]woods]''



* In ''WesternAnimation/Super4'', this is PirateGirl Ruby the Red's BerserkButton. Tell her that she should stay in the kitchen, that girls are too fragile to fight, that she should switch her cutlass for a rolling pin, or any variation thereof, and you're certain to have a swordfight on your arms. Then again, she used to be a tavern wench in a pirate town, and she heard this during her whole childhood from the macho pirates, so it's understandable that she'd be sick of it.



* This is still largely practiced in sports - men and women's sports are segregated by sex, with the men's team considered the "real" sport. This can be seen in the case of Mina Johnson, a student of Southampton Academy that is also a JV starting defensive tackle. While the school had no problems letting her play, she chose to sit out a game against a rival academy that threatened to forfeit if they had to play against her. To further extend this trope, the treatment of Johnson led to her [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming team wearing pink socks and armbands as a show of unity for her]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome trouncing the opposing team 60-0.]]

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* This is still largely practiced in sports - -- men and women's sports are segregated by sex, with the men's team considered the "real" sport. This can be seen in the case of Mina Johnson, a student of Southampton Academy that is also a JV starting defensive tackle. While the school had no problems letting her play, she chose to sit out a game against a rival academy that threatened to forfeit if they had to play against her. To further extend this trope, the treatment of Johnson led to her [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming team wearing pink socks and armbands as a show of unity for her]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome trouncing the opposing team 60-0.]]



* [[http://rejestracja.blog.pl/2012/01/23/d0-garow/ This]] vanity plate spotted in Poland, which roughly translates to "[get] back in the kitchen".

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* [[http://rejestracja.blog.pl/2012/01/23/d0-garow/ This]] This vanity plate spotted in Poland, Poland,]] which roughly translates to "[get] back in the kitchen".
17th Jul '16 10:19:03 PM PaulA
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* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans'': Perseus has decided to travel to the Stygian Witches to obtain information so he can save Princess Andromeda.

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* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans'': ''Film/{{Clash of the Titans|1981}}'': Perseus has decided to travel to the Stygian Witches to obtain information so he can save Princess Andromeda.
5th Jul '16 6:44:52 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In ''ComicStrip/{{Blonde}}'', Dagwood at first objected furiously to Blonde starting her own catering business, as he was opposed to her working; he changed his mind quickly once she told him her predicted profit margin and realized he could [[BigEater help inspect what she made]] for her inventory.
3rd Jul '16 1:00:17 AM joelkazoo
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* T.D. Mischke [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] this once with [[http://www.mischkemadness.com/audiofiles/a_little_bit_of_1950s_humor.mp3 this throwaway joke]].
29th Jun '16 5:43:32 PM nombretomado
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* {{Subverted|Trope}} with Mina Harker from ''Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' film. Even while everyone on the team knew that she was an immortal vampire she was not allowed to hunt Mr. Hyde because Allan Quartermain told her that she was a woman (or the film-makers wanted to show how {{badass}} SeanConnery was). Fortunately, everyone forgot this trope from Venice and on. Well, everyone except for TomSawyer, but he was overconfident in himself.

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* {{Subverted|Trope}} with Mina Harker from ''Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'' film. Even while everyone on the team knew that she was an immortal vampire she was not allowed to hunt Mr. Hyde because Allan Quartermain told her that she was a woman (or the film-makers wanted to show how {{badass}} SeanConnery Creator/SeanConnery was). Fortunately, everyone forgot this trope from Venice and on. Well, everyone except for TomSawyer, Literature/TomSawyer, but he was overconfident in himself.
25th Jun '16 10:11:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''BikerMiceFromMars'' occasionally treat Charlene like this--even though she's not burdened with an ego as massive as they are.

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* The ''BikerMiceFromMars'' ''WesternAnimation/BikerMiceFromMars'' occasionally treat Charlene like this--even though she's not burdened with an ego as massive as they are.



* In ''{{Daria}}'', combining this trope with ObnoxiousInLaws: after Jake's heart attack, the family is visited by his mother, \Ruth, whose more traditional views on homemaking clash with her {{Workaholic}} daughter-in-law, Helen. Later, Daria hears her and Jake talking about their bad memories of Jake's father, and Ruth admits that she'd do a lot of things differently if she had the chance. The next time Daria hears her berating Helen she brings this up, and Ruth seems to realize that her attitude isn't really helping things.

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* In ''{{Daria}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'', combining this trope with ObnoxiousInLaws: after Jake's heart attack, the family is visited by his mother, \Ruth, whose more traditional views on homemaking clash with her {{Workaholic}} daughter-in-law, Helen. Later, Daria hears her and Jake talking about their bad memories of Jake's father, and Ruth admits that she'd do a lot of things differently if she had the chance. The next time Daria hears her berating Helen she brings this up, and Ruth seems to realize that her attitude isn't really helping things.
7th Jun '16 11:43:12 AM deven0711
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