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20th Mar '17 11:32:07 AM XFllo
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* What female forumgoer ''hasn't'' come across this line at least once, either used ironically as an intentionally out-dated insult, by a not-very-subtle {{Troll}}, or, on occasion, as an actual sincere put-down.
18th Mar '17 8:35:08 PM DrOO7
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* ''Series/StrongMedicine''. Dr. Andy Campbell, an Army surgeon, attends a recruiting event and is dismayed to see that the male officer has this attitude towards every female interested in joining. When he displays the same attitude towards ''her'', she angrily reminds him that he's not only speaking a fellow officer, he's speaking to a ''superior'' and tells him to shut up.
18th Mar '17 7:42:38 PM fireflyer
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* Discussed in ''Film/{{Advantageous}}'':
-->'''Gwen: '''Am I too old, to be of use?
-->'''David: '''What are you talking about Gwen?
-->'''Gwen: '''So many women are out of work. Some are in real trouble.
-->'''David: '''...To be frank, there is talk among recruiters about letting women stay unemployed and well, [[StayInTheKitchen return to the home]]. The perception is it's safer than putting millions of desperate men on the street.
11th Mar '17 4:38:43 PM superkeijikun
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* ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'': Caesar's Legion is notorious for many atrocities like slavery and crucifixions, but they are also noted as being raging misogynists. Many within the Legion consider the role of women to be limited to bearing sons to add to the Legion's army, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil willing or otherwise]].
8th Mar '17 9:55:04 PM Rhodes7
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* In ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' this is the only righteous way, and the heroes look back with bemused contempt on the days women were allowed in combat. Helped by their easy victory over Azania when [[FauxActionGirl women pilots would inevitably panic and crash.]]
4th Mar '17 1:48:41 PM gb00393
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** Ambitious women like Margaery generally achieve power by controlling the men in their lives.

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** Ambitious women like Margaery generally achieve power by controlling the men in their lives.lives, due to this being a general belief in Westeros, though not north of the Wall.
4th Mar '17 1:47:35 PM gb00393
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* Tywin Lannister seems to have had this attitude towards his daughter Cersei in ''Series/GameOfThrones''. He never expected her to be anything more than someone he could use to cement a marriage alliance. It's one of the reasons she's not a capable ruler -- he never raised her to be one. On the other hand, Cersei also has plenty of emotional problems (again, partly due to Tywin's parenting) that get in the way of her ability to rule. Tywin flat out stated that her problem isn't her gender, her problem is that she's not as clever as she thinks she is.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
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Tywin Lannister seems to have had this attitude towards his daughter Cersei in ''Series/GameOfThrones''.Cersei. He never expected her to be anything more than someone he could use to cement a marriage alliance. It's one of the reasons she's not a capable ruler -- he never raised her to be one. On the other hand, Cersei also has plenty of emotional problems (again, partly due to Tywin's parenting) that get in the way of her ability to rule. Tywin flat out stated that her problem isn't her gender, her problem is that she's not as clever as she thinks she is.
** Women with traditionally masculine aspirations like Brienne are looked down on.
** Ambitious women like Margaery generally achieve power by controlling the men in their lives.
10th Feb '17 12:38:45 PM BattleMaster
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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' as the gender barrier is almost non existent, anyone can be a soldier, commander, or ruler in the Inner Sphere. Its even averted hard in Clans, as the only rule they have is you have to be a badass, with many females, filling roles of warriors and even Khans.

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* Averted in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' as the gender barrier is almost non existent, anyone can be a soldier, commander, or ruler in the Inner Sphere. Its even averted hard in Clans, as the only rule they have is you have to be a badass, with many females, females filling roles of warriors and even Khans.Khans. Also, even implying this trope in [[LadyLand the Magistracy of Canopus]] is [[BerserkButton a good way to get shot]].



** In ''Videogame/DragonAgeInquisition'', Cassandra can question Iron Bull on the Qunari's stance of women fighters in party banter. He explains that a Qunari who desires a role normally associated with the opposite sex, such as a woman who wants to fight, ''and'' displays a level of proficiency for that role that is normally expected of the opposite sex, is functionally treated as transsexual and become a member of the desired role (note that his own second in command is a female to male transsexual warrior). Such people are known as Aqun-Athok. After all, your role in society is more important to the Qun than your gender. He's also implied to be doing some mental gymnastics to justify the female warriors on the team; when they're armed and armored, they're male, when they're not they're female. Cassandra in particular is bewildered by this attitude. This also sheds light on Sten's claim that a female warden is not female. All three player characters, if female, display a proficiency for fighting that would have them declared Aqun-Athok.

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** In ''Videogame/DragonAgeInquisition'', Cassandra can question Iron Bull on the Qunari's stance of women fighters in party banter. He explains that a Qunari who desires a role normally associated with the opposite sex, such as a woman who wants to fight, ''and'' displays a level of proficiency for that role that is normally expected of the opposite sex, is functionally treated as transsexual transgender and become a member of the desired role (note that his own second in command is a female to male transsexual transgender warrior). Such people are known as Aqun-Athok. After all, your role in society is more important to the Qun than your gender. He's also implied to be doing some mental gymnastics to justify the female warriors on the team; when they're armed and armored, they're male, when they're not they're female. Cassandra in particular is bewildered by this attitude. This also sheds light on Sten's claim that a female warden is not female. All three player characters, if female, display a proficiency for fighting that would have them declared Aqun-Athok.
6th Feb '17 3:16:51 PM cordychase
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* Inverted in Catherine Asaro's ''Literature/SkolianSaga''. The upper classes of the Skolian Empire are like this--some of them even forbid their male family members from seeing anyone who's not a relative except under strict supervision, although they're considered to be ultra-conservative and somewhat out-of-touch for it. The kidnapped princeling in ''Undercity'' desperately wants to go to university and become a marine biologist, but his mother won't allow it. [[spoiler: After Major Bhaajan figures out that the kidnappers were able to get him because he was so unhappy he ran away, she relents, and by the end of the book he's enrolled.]]
28th Jan '17 1:09:21 PM LordInsane
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* In ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' has the Brotherhood of the Five Suns, a paladin order serving the ducal congress of the Vailian Republics, which -- implied to be somewhat archaic for the setting -- true to its name prohibits women from joining. Despite this the only member shown ''is'' a woman, Pallegina, but this is because in addition to being archaic about letting women serve they are also archaic about the ''definition'' of a woman: the Brotherhood's definition requires being able to conceive children, so female godlike like Pallegina are not, from their perspective, women, all godlike being sterile.
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