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26th Nov '16 5:49:15 PM NJLizS
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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/RudolphTheRedNosedReindeer''. Donner tells his wife to stay in the cave ("No. This is man's work.") simply because he feels responsible for Rudolph having run away and believes that he should be the one to look for him; the whole gender roles thing was merely a convenient excuse. However, when she and Clarice are abducted by the Abominable Snowmonster while looking for Rudolph themselves, it turns out he had a point, at least in part.

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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/RudolphTheRedNosedReindeer''. Donner tells his wife to stay in the cave ("No. This is man's work.") simply because he feels responsible for Rudolph having run away and believes that he should be the one to look for him; the whole gender roles thing was merely a convenient excuse. However, when she and Clarice are abducted by the Abominable Snowmonster while looking for Rudolph themselves, it turns out he had a point, at least in part.
18th Nov '16 12:15:08 PM Darth_Rasputin32898
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[[caption-width-right:350:'''''[[Website/{{Superdickery}} YOU DICK!]]''''']]

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[[caption-width-right:350:'''''[[Website/{{Superdickery}} YOU [[caption-width-right:350:'''''[[ValuesDissonance YOU]] [[Website/{{Superdickery}} DICK!]]''''']]
13th Nov '16 4:12:11 PM ultimomant
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* In ''Manga/TheSevenDeadlySins'', in Jericho's backstory, her brother Gustaf told her to give up on her dreams of becoming a Holy Knight because she was a woman. Determined to prove him wrong, she succeeded in becoming a Holy Knight. Later, it's revealed that Gustaf truly cared about her and only said that because he was worried she would one day be killed.
10th Nov '16 11:11:10 AM Berrenta
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* Mocked in [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=252 this]] ''Webcomic/VGCats'' strip; in a reference to ''VideoGame/CookingMama'', Mama [[GirlsNeedRoleModels offers alternatives to this attitude]]. [[StrawMisogynist Shigeru Miyamoto responds poorly.]]

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* Mocked in [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=252 this]] ''Webcomic/VGCats'' strip; in a reference to ''VideoGame/CookingMama'', Mama [[GirlsNeedRoleModels offers alternatives to this attitude]].attitude. [[StrawMisogynist Shigeru Miyamoto responds poorly.]]
5th Nov '16 6:29:12 PM nombretomado
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* Curiously, where actual cooking is involved, only domestic cooking is considered feminine. In professional cooking, women are ''still'' expected to stay in the kitchen --or rather, stay in the ''other'' kitchen. ''This'' kitchen is a ''man's'' world, since allegedly "Only a man can be a chef. A cooking woman is merely a cook." (Creator/JuliaChild blew this aphorism to hell.) On ''IronChef America'', only two of the ten chefs thus far were women (Cat Cora and Alex Guarnaschelli) and ''none'' in the original series.

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* Curiously, where actual cooking is involved, only domestic cooking is considered feminine. In professional cooking, women are ''still'' expected to stay in the kitchen --or rather, stay in the ''other'' kitchen. ''This'' kitchen is a ''man's'' world, since allegedly "Only a man can be a chef. A cooking woman is merely a cook." (Creator/JuliaChild blew this aphorism to hell.) On ''IronChef ''Series/IronChef America'', only two of the ten chefs thus far were women (Cat Cora and Alex Guarnaschelli) and ''none'' in the original series.
30th Oct '16 10:49:45 AM nombretomado
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** Baseline Imperial Culture from which most [=PCs=] will come is theoretically indifferent to gender roles both legally and socially. However non-starfaring Imperial citizens from self-governing planets (usually [=NPCs=]) will naturally be more inclined to their world's culture then the generic interstellar one and local culture can vary. If appropriate this discrepancy can be demonstrated in the {{Gurps}} version by giving a PC "Intolerance (uppity women)" as a disadvantage.

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** Baseline Imperial Culture from which most [=PCs=] will come is theoretically indifferent to gender roles both legally and socially. However non-starfaring Imperial citizens from self-governing planets (usually [=NPCs=]) will naturally be more inclined to their world's culture then the generic interstellar one and local culture can vary. If appropriate this discrepancy can be demonstrated in the {{Gurps}} TabletopGame/{{Gurps}} version by giving a PC "Intolerance (uppity women)" as a disadvantage.
26th Oct '16 9:15:09 AM GoblinCipher
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* Turns up in TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Film/JurassicPark'', as per the page quote, especially as John Hammond is an 80 year old fragile old man, while Dr. Ellie Settler is a young, fit woman who lives in the Montana Bad Lands digging up dinosaur bones with Dr. Grant. This is also more a case of Hammond having a bit of ValuesDissonance than him being an asshole, [[AdaptationalHeroism at least in the movie]] (the greedy, amoral Hammond of the book wouldn't even make the offer). WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic review had Doug Walker point out how it's funny that Hammond is confusing strength with gender when [[HypocriticalHumor most of the creatures on the island trying to kill him have a vagina]] (since the park bred the dinosaurs as female to avoid breeding).

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* Turns up in TheFilmOfTheBook of ''Film/JurassicPark'', as per the page quote, especially as John Hammond is an 80 year old fragile old man, while Dr. Ellie Settler is a young, fit woman who lives in the Montana Bad Lands badlands digging up dinosaur bones with Dr. Grant. This is also more a case of Hammond having a bit of ValuesDissonance than him being an asshole, [[AdaptationalHeroism at least in the movie]] (the greedy, amoral Hammond of the book wouldn't even make the offer). WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic review had Doug Walker point out how it's funny that Hammond is confusing strength with gender when [[HypocriticalHumor most of the creatures on the island trying to kill him have a vagina]] (since the park bred the dinosaurs as female to avoid breeding).
26th Oct '16 9:06:21 AM GoblinCipher
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This attitude is prevalent in [[RealLife the real world]]. The US military, for example, officially barred women from direct combat until 2013 with TheDulcineaEffect as their reasoning, believing that male troops would be too distracted protecting their female squad members or turn into [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge loose cannon killers]] if they got hurt, destroying their cohesiveness as a fighting force;[[note]][[RealityEnsues This worked very poorly]]. Turns out combat has a habit of finding ''you'' when you're wearing a uniform in an embattled country. Being officially barred from combat turned out to mostly mean being barred from acquiring combat-grade equipment and training.[[/note]][[note]]As a counterpoint, however, there are serious and rationally-defensible concerns about the fact that including women in armed forces could lead to [[LoveTriangle serious complications of a sort that no military can tolerate]], as well as the fact that [[RealityEnsues the majority of female candidates simply can't match the majority of male candidates in terms of physical strength and endurance]].[[/note]] they didn't allow women in combat zones ''at all'' until the 1990s.

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This attitude is prevalent in [[RealLife the real world]]. The US military, for example, officially barred women from direct combat until 2013 with TheDulcineaEffect as their reasoning, believing that male troops would be too distracted protecting their female squad members or turn into [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge loose cannon killers]] if they got hurt, destroying their cohesiveness as a fighting force;[[note]][[RealityEnsues This worked very poorly]]. Turns out combat has a habit of finding ''you'' when you're wearing a uniform in an embattled country. Being officially barred from combat turned out to mostly mean being barred from acquiring combat-grade equipment and training.[[/note]][[note]]As a counterpoint, however, there are serious and rationally-defensible concerns about the fact that including women in armed forces could lead to [[LoveTriangle serious complications of a sort that no military can tolerate]], as well as the fact that [[RealityEnsues the majority of female candidates simply can't match the majority of male candidates in terms of physical strength and endurance]].[[/note]] force; they didn't allow women in combat zones ''at all'' until the 1990s.
22nd Oct '16 11:55:50 AM rjd1922
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This attitude is prevalent in [[RealLife the real world]]. The US military, for example, officially barred women from direct combat until 2013 with this trope as the excuse, believing that male troops would be too distracted protecting their female squad members or turn into [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge loose cannon killers]] if they got hurt, destroying their cohesiveness as a fighting force;[[note]][[RealityEnsues This worked very poorly]]. Turns out combat has a habit of finding ''you'' when you're wearing a uniform in an embattled country. Being officially barred from combat turned out to mostly mean being barred from acquiring combat-grade equipment and training.[[/note]][[note]]As a counterpoint, however, there are serious and rationally-defensible concerns about the fact that including women in armed forces could lead to [[LoveTriangle serious complications of a sort that no military can tolerate]], as well as the fact that [[RealityEnsues the majority of female candidates simply can't match the majority of male candidates in terms of physical strength and endurance]].[[/note]] they didn't allow women in combat zones ''at all'' until the 1990s.

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This attitude is prevalent in [[RealLife the real world]]. The US military, for example, officially barred women from direct combat until 2013 with this trope TheDulcineaEffect as the excuse, their reasoning, believing that male troops would be too distracted protecting their female squad members or turn into [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge loose cannon killers]] if they got hurt, destroying their cohesiveness as a fighting force;[[note]][[RealityEnsues This worked very poorly]]. Turns out combat has a habit of finding ''you'' when you're wearing a uniform in an embattled country. Being officially barred from combat turned out to mostly mean being barred from acquiring combat-grade equipment and training.[[/note]][[note]]As a counterpoint, however, there are serious and rationally-defensible concerns about the fact that including women in armed forces could lead to [[LoveTriangle serious complications of a sort that no military can tolerate]], as well as the fact that [[RealityEnsues the majority of female candidates simply can't match the majority of male candidates in terms of physical strength and endurance]].[[/note]] they didn't allow women in combat zones ''at all'' until the 1990s.
9th Oct '16 10:30:21 AM nombretomado
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* Used against ''{{Chowder}}'' by Gorgonzola in a baseball-like game. And he really would prefer to go back.

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* Used against ''{{Chowder}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Chowder}}'' by Gorgonzola in a baseball-like game. And he really would prefer to go back.
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