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20th Sep '16 8:47:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* A strange case would be the various incarnations of the secret police [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic under the Austrian Habsburgs]], at least in their later days. Tracing their origins to Prince Metternich, the StateSec provided an unnervingly amiable (and deceptively incompetent) face, preferring to pull strings or subtly ease potential malcontents out of relevance rather than making them "disappear." Of course, this doesn't include an intricate spy network that not only stretched across the Empire but even beyond. Or the fact that it's helped Austria-Hungary to a degree shape their society as they see fit. Even as their actual competence decayed, the fact that elements of that system survived into the 1920s (after the end of WorldWarI destroyed the monarchy)says a lot.

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* A strange case would be the various incarnations of the secret police [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic under the Austrian Habsburgs]], at least in their later days. Tracing their origins to Prince Metternich, the StateSec provided an unnervingly amiable (and deceptively incompetent) face, preferring to pull strings or subtly ease potential malcontents out of relevance rather than making them "disappear." Of course, this doesn't include an intricate spy network that not only stretched across the Empire but even beyond. Or the fact that it's helped Austria-Hungary to a degree shape their society as they see fit. Even as their actual competence decayed, the fact that elements of that system survived into the 1920s (after the end of WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI destroyed the monarchy)says a lot.
7th Sep '16 1:18:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* When Germany was split after the war, East Germany got [[TheStasi the Stasi]] (''[=Ministerium für STAatsSIcherheit=]'' = Ministry for State Security), practically a literal German translation of this trope's name, although the derivation runs the other way. They were able to field far more agents than the Gestapo ever could, (at their height, the Stasi had one agent for every 166 citizens, while the best the Gestapo could field was one agent for every 2000 citizens). An old saying in Germany goes, "The Gestapo were bone breakers. The Stasi were '''''soul''''' breakers." Alone that makes them just the SecretPolice (if particularly scary secret police), but what puts them into this trope is the Felix Dzerzhinsky Guards Regiment, a rather large paramilitary force (about 11,000 at its height) used to secure ultra-important government and Party facilities and generally terrorize the people when necessary.

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* When Germany was split after the war, East Germany got [[TheStasi [[UsefulNotes/TheStasi the Stasi]] (''[=Ministerium für STAatsSIcherheit=]'' = Ministry for State Security), practically a literal German translation of this trope's name, although the derivation runs the other way. They were able to field far more agents than the Gestapo ever could, (at their height, the Stasi had one agent for every 166 citizens, while the best the Gestapo could field was one agent for every 2000 citizens). An old saying in Germany goes, "The Gestapo were bone breakers. The Stasi were '''''soul''''' breakers." Alone that makes them just the SecretPolice (if particularly scary secret police), but what puts them into this trope is the Felix Dzerzhinsky Guards Regiment, a rather large paramilitary force (about 11,000 at its height) used to secure ultra-important government and Party facilities and generally terrorize the people when necessary.
3rd Sep '16 7:12:29 AM Morgenthaler
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* A strange case would be the various incarnations of the secret police [[TheSoundOfMartialMusic under the Austrian Habsburgs]], at least in their later days. Tracing their origins to Prince Metternich, the StateSec provided an unnervingly amiable (and deceptively incompetent) face, preferring to pull strings or subtly ease potential malcontents out of relevance rather than making them "disappear." Of course, this doesn't include an intricate spy network that not only stretched across the Empire but even beyond. Or the fact that it's helped Austria-Hungary to a degree shape their society as they see fit. Even as their actual competence decayed, the fact that elements of that system survived into the 1920s (after the end of WorldWarI destroyed the monarchy)says a lot.

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* A strange case would be the various incarnations of the secret police [[TheSoundOfMartialMusic [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic under the Austrian Habsburgs]], at least in their later days. Tracing their origins to Prince Metternich, the StateSec provided an unnervingly amiable (and deceptively incompetent) face, preferring to pull strings or subtly ease potential malcontents out of relevance rather than making them "disappear." Of course, this doesn't include an intricate spy network that not only stretched across the Empire but even beyond. Or the fact that it's helped Austria-Hungary to a degree shape their society as they see fit. Even as their actual competence decayed, the fact that elements of that system survived into the 1920s (after the end of WorldWarI destroyed the monarchy)says a lot.
28th Aug '16 2:07:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[DestineEnormity Arcadia's]] superpowered StateSec is called the Elite. They encompass all the functions of the government, but are most often seen fighting the rebels or investigating traitors.

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* [[DestineEnormity [[Roleplay/DestineEnormity Arcadia's]] superpowered StateSec is called the Elite. They encompass all the functions of the government, but are most often seen fighting the rebels or investigating traitors.
21st Aug '16 8:15:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/Block109'': There are actually two opposing ones within Alt-history Nazi Germany. The SS became Heydrich's personal organization after Himmler became Fuehrer, but Himmler also created the Teutonic Order led by an unknown officer named Zytek as a rival organization so that neither could become too powerful. This backfired when Himmler was assassinated anyway and replaced by Zytek.
10th Aug '16 9:41:10 PM Schismatism
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* The ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'' has StateSec in the form of the MCO, or Mutant Commission Office. A poster child for the SuperRegistrationAct, its officers range from the [[AntiVillain well-meaning]] to the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName blatantly hostile]], and from those who act openly in all ways to those who will happily [[UnPerson disappear children]] into [[AdultFear the night and fog.]]
7th Aug '16 6:26:49 PM Morgenthaler
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* The {{Romania}}n StateSec, Securitatea, was probably among the most brutal paramilitary societies ''ever''. One could expect them knocking at/down the door of one's home and taking one and one's family to be beaten/shot for something like a half-finished ''Ceauşescu joke'' heard by one of the neighbors.
* Turkey during the political instability of the 1970s did not have an actual StateSec (SecretPolice is another question though). However, almost every political party that vied for supremacy had a paramilitary wing to conduct their morally dubious operations. More often than not, when the Government, [[TurksWithTroops the Army]] or the National Intelligence Agency needed its dirty work done, it would use one of these organisations. The most notorious and only surviving example is the nationalist Grey Wolves who have been involved with some of the blackest of government and army operations. These days, they're on the news regarding their part in a suspected military coup.

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* The {{Romania}}n UsefulNotes/{{Romania}}n StateSec, Securitatea, was probably among the most brutal paramilitary societies ''ever''. One could expect them knocking at/down the door of one's home and taking one and one's family to be beaten/shot for something like a half-finished ''Ceauşescu joke'' heard by one of the neighbors.
* Turkey during the political instability of the 1970s did not have an actual StateSec (SecretPolice is another question though). However, almost every political party that vied for supremacy had a paramilitary wing to conduct their morally dubious operations. More often than not, when the Government, [[TurksWithTroops [[UsefulNotes/TurksWithTroops the Army]] or the National Intelligence Agency needed its dirty work done, it would use one of these organisations. The most notorious and only surviving example is the nationalist Grey Wolves who have been involved with some of the blackest of government and army operations. These days, they're on the news regarding their part in a suspected military coup.
7th Aug '16 5:56:20 PM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}'s [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Guardians_of_the_Islamic_Revolution Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution,]] better known as the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) or just the Revolutionary Guards. They have their own Navy, Air Force, and ground forces, separate from the regular [[PersiansWithPistols Iranian military]]. They also control the Iranian rocket forces and military-oriented nuclear research, meaning that should Iran get nuclear weapons, they would presumably ''all'' be under IRGC control. Also part of the IRGC is the Quds Force, which provides covert aid to foreign Islamic extremist movements. They also control the Basij, a paramilitary organization consisting chiefly of fanatical thugs, whose responsibilities consist of [[CulturePolice enforcing religious law]] (keeping women in headscarves, breaking up mixed-sex parties, keeping unrelated men and women separate, etc.) (sometimes violently), breaking up protests (usually violently), and generally intimidating people (how you can do that without at least the ''threat'' of violence in these circumstances is somewhat unclear to us). The IRGC has various other, more subtle secret-police like duties as well, but Iran being Iran, we don't really know too much about it.

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* UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}'s [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Guardians_of_the_Islamic_Revolution Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution,]] better known as the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) or just the Revolutionary Guards. They have their own Navy, Air Force, and ground forces, separate from the regular [[PersiansWithPistols [[UsefulNotes/PersiansWithPistols Iranian military]]. They also control the Iranian rocket forces and military-oriented nuclear research, meaning that should Iran get nuclear weapons, they would presumably ''all'' be under IRGC control. Also part of the IRGC is the Quds Force, which provides covert aid to foreign Islamic extremist movements. They also control the Basij, a paramilitary organization consisting chiefly of fanatical thugs, whose responsibilities consist of [[CulturePolice enforcing religious law]] (keeping women in headscarves, breaking up mixed-sex parties, keeping unrelated men and women separate, etc.) (sometimes violently), breaking up protests (usually violently), and generally intimidating people (how you can do that without at least the ''threat'' of violence in these circumstances is somewhat unclear to us). The IRGC has various other, more subtle secret-police like duties as well, but Iran being Iran, we don't really know too much about it.
1st Aug '16 6:48:41 PM ZimFan89
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* ''Series/TheLastShip'':
** The multipart story that composes the very end of Season 1 and start of Season 2 features rogue elements of the Maryland State Police who are acting in this capacity for [[spoiler: [[WellIntentionedExtremist Amy Granderson]]]], who has set themselves up as a warlord in Baltimore.
** Season 3 makes use of China's Ministry of State Security, a real life example of this trope.
30th Jul '16 3:43:37 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''{{Daria}}'' FanFic ExpandedUniverse, look no further than the organization known as [[http://www.dariawiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=DELPHI DELPHI]], with the [[PretentiousLatinMotto motto]] ''Praemonitus, praemunitus'' (' ''Forewarned is forearmed'' '). If your favorite [[EspionageTropes spy shtick]] hasn't been yet used by or about DELPHI - ''just you wait...''

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* In the ''{{Daria}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' FanFic ExpandedUniverse, look no further than the organization known as [[http://www.dariawiki.org/wiki/index.php?title=DELPHI DELPHI]], with the [[PretentiousLatinMotto motto]] ''Praemonitus, praemunitus'' (' ''Forewarned is forearmed'' '). If your favorite [[EspionageTropes spy shtick]] hasn't been yet used by or about DELPHI - ''just you wait...''
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