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19th Jan '16 1:01:44 AM WanderingBrowser
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* ''LightNovel/CrestOfTheStars'' The Ahb take the position that humanity will be inevitably be destroyed in a galactic war if left to themselves. So they decide to conquer everyone and incorporate them into their Empire, denying all other races the ability of hyperspace travel so that there won't be any war. Tactics used to accomplish this salvation include blowing away the atmosphere of rebellious planets.
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* ''LightNovel/CrestOfTheStars'' The Ahb take the position that humanity will be inevitably be destroyed in a galactic war if left to themselves. So they decide to conquer everyone and incorporate them into their Empire, denying all other races the ability of hyperspace travel so that there won't be any war. Tactics used to accomplish this salvation include blowing away the atmosphere of rebellious planets. [[DesignatedHero And the series is on their side.]]

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* The very core of the backstory to ''VideoGame/AmnesiaAMachineForPigs'': [[spoiler: Your player character, having received a vision via a magical mask of the brutal wars coming in the 20th century, murders his two sons to save them from their prophesised deaths at the Battle of Somme. He then constructs the titular machine to slaughter the inhabitants of London, and presumably from there all humanity, and replace them with twisted [[PigMan porcine monsters called "Manpigs"]].]] There are some hints that he's being manipulated by an ArtifactOfDoom, though.
8th Jan '16 7:27:11 PM dasuberkaiser
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** The episode "[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E20ItsAboutTime It's About Time]]" has Twilight get a visit from her future self which makes her think that there is going to be a terrible calamity by next Tuesday. The episode has her growing increasingly frantic and sleep-deprived, trying to figure out what this calamity ''is'' so that she can stop it. Finally, she gets so desperate that she decides the only way to prevent whatever is going to happen is to find a spell to stop time itself, so that next Tuesday can never come. [[spoiler:The big punchline to the episode is that there never was any future calamity on its way, and the whole plot was kicked off by a StableTimeLoop caused by 'future' Twilight going back to the past in a failed attempt to tell herself not spend the next week freaking out.]]
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** The episode "[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E20ItsAboutTime "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E20ItsAboutTime It's About Time]]" has Twilight get a visit from her future self which makes her think that there is going to be a terrible calamity by next Tuesday. The episode has her growing increasingly frantic and sleep-deprived, trying to figure out what this calamity ''is'' so that she can stop it. Finally, she gets so desperate that she decides the only way to prevent whatever is going to happen is to find a spell to stop time itself, so that next Tuesday can never come. [[spoiler:The big punchline to the episode is that there never was any future calamity on its way, and the whole plot was kicked off by a StableTimeLoop caused by 'future' Twilight going back to the past in a failed attempt to tell herself not spend the next week freaking out.]]
3rd Nov '15 9:47:44 PM JulianLapostat
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** Robespierre opposed the Death Penalty but only during peacetime, during wartime, killing the King and counter-revolutionaries was necessary to arrive at the capital-punishment-free peacetime. Emmanuel Joseph Sieyès saw himself as a liberal and moderate, rather than a firebrand revolutionary. Eventually he felt France was being too unstable and that there needed to be Order. So [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope he decided to mastermind a military coup d'etat]] and went shopping for a general to serve as his puppet. The one guy who was ''conveniently'' available : UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. Such reversals, drastic and dynamic were common and bitterly {{Lampshaded}} by Pierre-Victurnien Vergniaud at the trial of the Girondins:
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** Robespierre opposed the Death Penalty but only during peacetime, during wartime, [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans killing the King and counter-revolutionaries was necessary to arrive at the capital-punishment-free peacetime.peacetime]]. Emmanuel Joseph Sieyès saw himself as a liberal and moderate, rather than a firebrand revolutionary. Eventually he felt France was being too unstable and that there needed to be Order. So [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope he decided to mastermind a military coup d'etat]] and went shopping for a general to serve as his puppet. The one guy who was ''conveniently'' available : UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. Such reversals, drastic and dynamic were common and bitterly {{Lampshaded}} by Pierre-Victurnien Vergniaud at the trial of the Girondins:
3rd Nov '15 9:45:20 PM JulianLapostat
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* This happened all the time during UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution. Many of the Revolutionaries in fighting for and arguing for the things they wanted to put in place resorted to means which contradicted their ideals: ** In order for the Revolution to create a society as per "The Declaration of the Rights of Man" which asserted the protection of civil liberties and right to property as well as freedom of religion, they had to reform feudalism. To reform feudalism they came up with the scheme of creating a new national church and seizing property, i.e., violate the very principles they are trying to erect. This was a key cause for the counter-revolution, as this interference was resented by the rural population, the Vendeeans. Pro-revolutionary historians admit that it was a less than perfect approach to separation of Church and State. ** The Declaration also stated that France would not declare or provoke war nor would it conquer other sovereign nations. However, in order for the revolution to succeed against oppositions, many politicians like the Girondins decided that France should invade neighbouring regions to "spread the Revolution". Danton, despite initially opposing the war, admitted that it was a chance for France to reclaim its "natural frontiers" and expansionist rhetoric accompanied idealistic notions of spreading the Revolution, almost entirely without irony. ** Robespierre opposed the Death Penalty but only during peacetime, during wartime, killing the King and counter-revolutionaries was necessary to arrive at the capital-punishment-free peacetime. Emmanuel Joseph Sieyès saw himself as a liberal and moderate, rather than a firebrand revolutionary. Eventually he felt France was being too unstable and that there needed to be Order. So [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope he decided to mastermind a military coup d'etat]] and went shopping for a general to serve as his puppet. The one guy who was ''conveniently'' available : UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte. Such reversals, drastic and dynamic were common and bitterly {{Lampshaded}} by Pierre-Victurnien Vergniaud at the trial of the Girondins: --> ''"Citizens, we have reason to fear that the Revolution, like Saturn, will successively devour all its children, [[{{Foreshadowing}} and finally produce despotism, with the calamities that accompany it]]."''
28th Sep '15 9:58:59 AM Mhazard
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'', [[spoiler: the [[EldritchAbomination Moon Presence]] uses [[DeathSeeker Gehrman]] as a surrogate host to create the Hunt, hoping to undo the madness done by his kind, Mergo. It however backfired and ruined the city of Yharnam instead, [[HeWhoFoughtMonster some]] became the Beast they used to hunt, and some are mentally tormented and driven to madness. Even if you managed to succeed him and decided to continue the struggle against the Great Ones, you would one day share his fate and be treated as an enemy by the other Hunters.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'', [[spoiler: the [[EldritchAbomination Moon Presence]] uses [[DeathSeeker Gehrman]] as a surrogate host to create the Hunt, hoping to undo the madness done by his kind, Mergo. It however backfired and ruined the city of Yharnam instead, [[HeWhoFoughtMonster some]] some became the Beast they used to hunt, and some are were mentally tormented and driven to madness. Even if you managed to succeed him and decided to continue the struggle against the Great Ones, you would one day share his fate and be treated as an enemy by the other Hunters.]]
28th Sep '15 9:58:31 AM Mhazard
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'', [[spoiler: the [[EldritchAbomination Moon Presence]] uses [[DeathSeeker Gehrman]] as a surrogate host to create the Hunt, hoping to undo the madness done by his kind, Mergo. It however backfired and ruined the city of Yharnam instead, [[HeWhoFoughtMonsters some]] became the Beast they used to hunt, and some are mentally tormented and driven to madness. Even if you managed to succeed him and decided to continue the struggle against the Great Ones, you would one day share his fate and be treated as an enemy by the other Hunters.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'', [[spoiler: the [[EldritchAbomination Moon Presence]] uses [[DeathSeeker Gehrman]] as a surrogate host to create the Hunt, hoping to undo the madness done by his kind, Mergo. It however backfired and ruined the city of Yharnam instead, [[HeWhoFoughtMonsters [[HeWhoFoughtMonster some]] became the Beast they used to hunt, and some are mentally tormented and driven to madness. Even if you managed to succeed him and decided to continue the struggle against the Great Ones, you would one day share his fate and be treated as an enemy by the other Hunters.]]
28th Sep '15 9:58:01 AM Mhazard
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'', [[spoiler: the [[EldritchAbomination Moon Presence]] uses [[DeathSeeker Gehrman]] as a surrogate host to create the Hunt, hoping to undo the madness done by his kind, Mergo. It however backfired and ruined the city of Yharnam instead, [[HeWhoFoughtMonsters some]] became the Beast they used to hunt, and some are mentally tormented and driven to madness. Even if you managed to succeed him and decided to continue the struggle against the Great Ones, you would one day share his fate and be treated as an enemy by the other Hunters.]]
23rd Sep '15 10:48:53 PM Vir
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* At the end of season 3 of ''WesternAnimation/{{Reboot}}'', Mainframe is falling apart thanks to Megabyte's reign. When a Game approaches, Bob decides to let it crash the system instead of play it. Mainframe is too far gone for system repairs -- their only recourse is the User rebooting the system after it crashes. To save Mainframe, they have to let it and everyone in it die first.
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* At the end of season 3 of ''WesternAnimation/{{Reboot}}'', ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'', Mainframe is falling apart thanks to Megabyte's reign. When a Game approaches, Bob decides to let it crash the system instead of play it. Mainframe is too far gone for system repairs -- their only recourse is the User rebooting the system after it crashes. To save Mainframe, they have to let it and everyone in it die first.
23rd Sep '15 3:16:44 PM Bissek
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** This is the theory behind inoculations in general: Give someone a weakened version of a disease so their body can safely develop the antibodies needed to fight off the more dangerous variants found naturally.
19th Sep '15 7:42:21 AM Anorgil
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Moved the logic problem to a subsection of the Back-fires section, as the two are closely related.
** A certain logic problem revolves around this trope. You're stranded on an island covered entirely with a forest. A lightning strike starts a fire at one end of the island, and the wind is causing the fire to slowly spread across the rest of the island. How do you survive? [[spoiler:Pick up a branch from the underbrush in the forest, go near the fire and light the stick. Run to the other end of the island and light the forest on fire there. It will burn out soon, as it can't spread against the wind. You can then use this burnt-out section as a safe spot when the main fire comes.]]

* A certain logic problem revolves around this trope. You're stranded on an island covered entirely with a forest. A lightning strike starts a fire at one end of the island, and the wind is causing the fire to slowly spread across the rest of the island. How do you survive? [[spoiler:Pick up a branch from the underbrush in the forest, go near the fire and light the stick. Run to the other end of the island and light the forest on fire there. It will burn out soon, as it can't spread against the wind. You can then use this burnt-out section as a safe spot when the main fire comes.]]
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