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7th Mar '17 3:10:34 AM flodoris
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** [[spoiler:Sasuke Uchiha seems to have decided to go on an insane path of their predecessors beginning his revolution to end all wars in the world. His master plan to do it, to put the world into a perpetual state of war against him that would only last as long as he continues to perpetuate the hatred itself.]]

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** [[spoiler:Sasuke Uchiha seems to have decided to go on an insane path of their predecessors his predecessors, beginning his revolution which according to him to end all wars in the world. His master plan to do it, to put the world into a perpetual state of war against him that would only last as long as he continues to perpetuate the hatred itself.]]
22nd Feb '17 3:34:50 PM StFan
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* In ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', Nick Fury shoots a bazooka at a fighter pilot to prevent him from [[NukeEm nuking New York]]. ''Webvideo/CinemaSins'' describes it as "Nick Fury shoots a missile at an American to stop him from firing a missile at Americans".

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* In ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', Nick Fury shoots a bazooka at a fighter pilot to prevent him from [[NukeEm nuking New York]]. ''Webvideo/CinemaSins'' describes it as "Nick Fury shoots a missile at an American to stop him from firing a missile at Americans".



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20th Feb '17 6:40:33 PM Willbyr
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23rd Jan '17 4:18:22 PM eroock
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23rd Jan '17 3:12:02 PM AnotherDuck
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* Similar to the RealLife examples below, this is one way to deal with traps in most dungeon-crawling games. Rather than attempting to avoid or disarm the trap and risk accidentally triggering it in your face, just stand back and find some way to trigger it remotely.[[note]]Of course, this only works for simple mechanical traps; magic or self-resetting ones are more difficult to deal with.[[/note]]

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* Similar to the RealLife examples below, this is one way to deal with traps in most dungeon-crawling games. Rather than attempting to avoid or disarm the trap and risk accidentally triggering it in your face, just stand back and find some way to trigger it remotely.[[note]]Of course, this only works for simple mechanical traps; magic or self-resetting ones are more difficult to deal with.[[/note]]



* A common justification for war is to ensure or restore peace, now that war for [[WarIsGlorious glory]] or [[WarForFunAndProfit financial gain]] have become ''passé''. One of the well-known protest-signs against the war in Iraq read "Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity" and a common rebuttal reads "How else do you make more virgins?"



* The page quote's idea is that if your country is militarily weak, you'll be attacked by opportunistic neighbors. So if you want peace, build up a strong enough military that those neighbors will think twice about attacking you. Result: peace, not from ''starting'' a war (which ''would'' be this trope), but by merely being ''prepared'' to fight a war, even though you have no intention of starting one. "It takes two people to make peace, but only one to start a war."



** This is the theory behind inoculations in general: Give someone a weakened version of a disease so their body can safely develop the antibodies needed to fight off the more dangerous variants found naturally.
* Unstable negative feedback processes, instead of steadily self-regulating, can sometimes turn into this.



* In the 1930s, Soviet intellectual Maxim Gorky wrote, "[[InsaneTrollLogic eradicate homosexuals and fascism will disappear]]".
16th Jan '17 5:25:59 AM flodoris
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** Pain who wants to end all wars by giving people the ultimate weapon of mass destruction.
** "Salamander" Hanzo, a legendary shinobi with a reputation as TheDreaded, claimed his warmongering ways sprang from an attempt in his youth to unite the land under him. This is a case that doesn't work as well as Pain's; while Pain based his plan on human nature and acknowledged a lot of people would die in cycles because of it, war would become unbearable as long as his weapon existed and long periods of peace would be possible. Hanzo's wars just made the division in the shinobi world worse (since he lost interest in his original ideals early on and became a paranoid monster that oppressed his people) and was actually directly responsible for driving Pain insane in the first place.

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** Pain who wants grand plan to end all wars by giving bring true peace is get people to see first-hand the ultimate weapon horrors of mass destruction.
fantastic nuclear warfare and make war much less likely by virtue of mutually assured destruction. He flat out states that his plan is a stop-gap measure, and he expects them to resume fighting and nuke each other once they've forgotten how terrible it is. And eventually revert to peace for short periods before doing it all over again.[[InsaneTrollLogic "True peace" really.]]
** "Salamander" Hanzo, a legendary shinobi with a reputation as TheDreaded, claimed his warmongering ways sprang from an attempt in his youth to unite the land under him. This is a case that doesn't work And as well as Pain's; while Pain based his plan on human nature and acknowledged a lot of people would die in cycles because of it, war would become unbearable as long as his weapon existed and long periods of peace would be possible. you could imagine Hanzo's wars just made the division in the shinobi world worse (since he lost interest in his original ideals early on and became a paranoid monster that oppressed his people) and was actually directly responsible for driving aforementioned Pain insane in the first place. place.
** [[spoiler:Sasuke Uchiha seems to have decided to go on an insane path of their predecessors beginning his revolution to end all wars in the world. His master plan to do it, to put the world into a perpetual state of war against him that would only last as long as he continues to perpetuate the hatred itself.]]
8th Jan '17 9:47:32 PM Rhodes7
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* The Operative in ''Film/{{Serenity}}'' wants to create a perfect world without sin, no matter how many innocent children he has to kill in the process. An oddly self-aware example, in that he freely admits there's no place for a monster like him in his intended paradise.
26th Dec '16 6:22:46 PM SpacemanSpoof
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* Similar to the RealLife examples below, this is one way to deal with traps in most dungeon-crawling games. Rather than attempting to avoid or disarm the trap and risk accidentally triggering it in your face, just stand back and find some way to trigger it remotely.[[note]]Of course, this only works for simple mechanical traps; magic or self-resetting ones are more difficult to deal with.[[/note]]
6th Oct '16 10:07:55 AM Omeganian
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* In ''Film/DemolitionMan'', cop 20th century John Spartan is thawed out in the future to catch 20th century criminal Simon Phoenix on the basis of "Send a maniac to catch a maniac." Then it turns out Simon's escape was arranged by Raymond Cocteau, who wanted him to assassinate the leader of peeople threatening his peaceful society... and create enough chaos for an excuse to turn it into an even more rigid and "perfect" one.

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* In ''Film/DemolitionMan'', cop 20th century John Spartan is thawed out in the future to catch 20th century criminal Simon Phoenix on the basis of "Send a maniac to catch a maniac." Then it turns out Simon's escape was arranged by Raymond Cocteau, who wanted him to assassinate the leader of peeople outlaws threatening his peaceful society... and create enough chaos for an excuse to turn it into an even more rigid and "perfect" one.
4th Oct '16 9:06:09 PM Omeganian
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* In ''Film/DemolitionMan'', cop 20th century John Spartan is thawed out in the future to catch 20th century criminal Simon Phoenix on the basis of "Send a maniac to catch a maniac."

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* In ''Film/DemolitionMan'', cop 20th century John Spartan is thawed out in the future to catch 20th century criminal Simon Phoenix on the basis of "Send a maniac to catch a maniac."" Then it turns out Simon's escape was arranged by Raymond Cocteau, who wanted him to assassinate the leader of peeople threatening his peaceful society... and create enough chaos for an excuse to turn it into an even more rigid and "perfect" one.
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