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27th Apr '16 10:59:02 AM aye_amber
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* DavidBowie's song "Heroes" is about two lovers who are separated by [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar the Berlin Wall.]]

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* DavidBowie's Music/DavidBowie's song "Heroes" is about two lovers who are separated by [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar the Berlin Wall.]]
21st Apr '16 8:02:56 PM DoctorCooper
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* This might have been the case between UsefulNotes/FrederickTheGreat and his [[HoYay best friend/possible lover]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Hermann_von_Katte Liutenant Hans Hermann Von Katte]]. They were inseparable despte the eight years old difference, to the point that they were rumored to ''actually'' be lovers by other Prussian nobles. Then-RebelPrince Frederick intended to run away from Prussia to Great Britain to get away from his abusive father, King Frederick William I, and Von Katte decided to help him. After the two were caught and imprisoned, the King was about [[DisproportionateRetribution to execute them both]], but ultimately decided to [[OffWithhisHead have Von Katte beheaded]] while [[ForcedtoWatch forcing Frederick to watch from a nearby window.]] Frederick was [[DarkestHour about to fall into despair]] and tried to apologize, but Katte [[FaceDeathWithDignity calmly]] [[GoOutWithASmile smiled]] and told him [[FamousLastWords "For the sake of such a gentle prince, death is sweet!"]] before being executed. Frederick was so broken after this that [[HeroicBSOD he was unconcious for at least three days]] and, after waking up, [[TheMourningAfter never spoke about Katte again]]. It's speculated that [[TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest this ordeal]] was at least one of the reasons why Frederick [[CelibateHero never married and sired heirs.]]

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* This might have been the case between UsefulNotes/FrederickTheGreat and his [[HoYay best friend/possible lover]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Hermann_von_Katte Liutenant Hans Hermann Von Katte]]. They were inseparable despte the eight years old difference, to the point that they were rumored to ''actually'' be lovers by other Prussian nobles. Then-RebelPrince Frederick intended to run away from Prussia to Great Britain to get away from his abusive father, King Frederick William I, and Von Katte decided to help him. After the two were caught and imprisoned, the King was about [[DisproportionateRetribution to execute them both]], both, but ultimately decided to [[OffWithhisHead have Von Katte beheaded]] while [[ForcedtoWatch [[ForcedToWatch forcing Frederick to watch from a nearby window.]] Frederick was [[DarkestHour about to fall into despair]] despair and tried to apologize, but Katte [[FaceDeathWithDignity calmly]] [[GoOutWithASmile smiled]] and told him [[FamousLastWords "For the sake of such a gentle prince, death is sweet!"]] before being executed. Frederick was so broken after this that [[HeroicBSOD he was unconcious for at least three days]] and, after waking up, [[TheMourningAfter never spoke about Katte again]]. It's speculated that [[TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest this ordeal]] was at least one of the reasons why Frederick [[CelibateHero never married and sired heirs.]]
21st Apr '16 3:26:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/ALoveLikeBlood'': A male vampire and a female werewolf fall in love when [[FurAgainstFang both their races are at war with each other]]. [[spoiler:The woman is killed by vampire and werewolf soldiers while pregnant with their child.]]
16th Apr '16 2:20:04 PM R1ck
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One common version of this trope, Love Above One's Station (i.e., being in love with someone from a different social class), is at least [[DiscreditedTrope discredited]] if not actually [[DeadHorseTrope dead and buried]] in contemporary settings, but was [[TruthInTelevision very much true]] in the past, and can still work when applied to historical settings. While it's difficult even today to have a relationship with someone from a very different background, in the old days, it was all but impossible: if you were from the lower class and courted your "better", you'd be treated with the vilest contempt and risk arrest and/or violence (possibly even death); meanwhile, a "better" who reciprocated would be disowned and possibly shut off in a nunnery, a monastery--or even an [[http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=asylum&searchmode=none "asylum", an ironic name]] for a [[BedlamHouse place]] which, until a century or two ago, was usually ''even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunatic_asylum worse than prison]]''. See SuddenlySuitableSuitor.

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One common version of this trope, Love Above One's Station (i.e., being in love with someone from a different social class), is at least [[DiscreditedTrope discredited]] if not actually [[DeadHorseTrope dead and buried]] in contemporary settings, but was [[TruthInTelevision very much true]] in the past, and can still work when applied to historical settings. While it's difficult even today to have a relationship with someone from a very different background, in the old days, it was all but impossible: if you were from the lower class and courted your "better", you'd be treated with the vilest contempt and risk arrest and/or violence (possibly even death); meanwhile, a "better" who reciprocated would be disowned and possibly shut off in a nunnery, a monastery--or even an [[http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=asylum&searchmode=none "asylum", an ironic name]] for a [[BedlamHouse place]] which, until a century or two ago, was usually ''even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunatic_asylum worse than prison]]''. See SuddenlySuitableSuitor.
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16th Apr '16 2:18:16 PM R1ck
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Two lovers -- often teenagers -- [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star-crossed doomed to be kept apart no matter how hard they struggle to be together]]. It may be [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Fate]], or fatally-FeudingFamilies, or it may be something as mundane as a few hundred miles' separation, but ''something'' will ''always'' be in their way. Often, the two can only be TogetherInDeath. Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''RomeoAndJuliet'' is the most famous example (and the TropeNamer), but the archetype dates at least as far back as Myth/MesopotamianMythology and Myth/EgyptianMythology, making it OlderThanDirt.

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Two lovers -- often teenagers -- [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star-crossed doomed to be kept apart no matter how hard they struggle to be together]].together. It may be [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Fate]], or fatally-FeudingFamilies, or it may be something as mundane as a few hundred miles' separation, but ''something'' will ''always'' be in their way. Often, the two can only be TogetherInDeath. Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''RomeoAndJuliet'' is the most famous example (and the TropeNamer), but the archetype dates at least as far back as Myth/MesopotamianMythology and Myth/EgyptianMythology, making it OlderThanDirt.
15th Apr '16 3:11:07 PM margdean56
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* In ''Theatre/LesMiserables'', Eponine and Marius ([[UnrequitedLove or at least Eponine thinks they could be]]). Eponine sings about this in "On My Own", and unfortunately she is the hypotenuse in a love triangle involving herself, Marius and Cossette. [[spoiler: She becomes a victim of DeathOfTheHypotenuse and lies dying in Marius' arms. In some stagings, they AlmostKiss, but she dies before they do. Bummer.]]

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* In ''Theatre/LesMiserables'', Eponine and Marius ([[UnrequitedLove or at least Eponine thinks they could be]]). Eponine sings about this in "On My Own", and unfortunately she is the hypotenuse in a love triangle involving herself, Marius and Cossette.Cosette. [[spoiler: She becomes a victim of DeathOfTheHypotenuse and lies dying in Marius' arms. In some stagings, they AlmostKiss, but she dies before they do. Bummer.]]
15th Apr '16 3:06:06 PM margdean56
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* In Creator/CSLewis's ''Literature/TillWeHaveFaces'', Orual, queen of Glome, falls in love with Bardia, her captain of the guard, who is already married. [[spoiler:At the end, it's revealed that the stress her devotion caused him lead him to an early grave]].

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* In Creator/CSLewis's ''Literature/TillWeHaveFaces'', Orual, queen of Glome, falls in love with Bardia, her captain of the guard, who is already married. [[spoiler:At the end, it's revealed that the stress her devotion caused him lead led him to an early grave]].



* An Alaskan version of Romeo and Juliet, with a boy and a girl from feuding villages, forms a major part of the plot of the Literature/KateShugak mystery ''Bad Blood''. Author Dana Stabenow says in her introduction that she always the play was more about the families than the lovers, and that Shakespeare could have handled the elopement far better.

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* An Alaskan version of Romeo and Juliet, with a boy and a girl from feuding villages, forms a major part of the plot of the Literature/KateShugak mystery ''Bad Blood''. Author Dana Stabenow says in her introduction that she always thought the play was more about the families than the lovers, and that Shakespeare could have handled the elopement far better.
15th Apr '16 2:58:48 PM margdean56
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* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson were forced into this by ComicBook/OneMoreDay. Stan Lee even lables them this in his afterword in the OMD Trade Paperback. Fortunately, they're still very much together in the [=MC2=], Ultimate, and Newspaper Strip continuities, the latter of which continues to this day.

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* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson were forced into this by ComicBook/OneMoreDay. Stan Lee even lables labels them this in his afterword in the OMD Trade Paperback. Fortunately, they're still very much together in the [=MC2=], Ultimate, and Newspaper Strip continuities, the latter of which continues to this day.
15th Apr '16 2:55:14 PM margdean56
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In modern times, the term "star-crossed" is often unknowingly misused to mean lovers who are meant to be together. It means just the opposite--the stars (i.e. destiny or the heavens) have ruled against them, or "crossed" their plan--[[DontExplainTheJoke get it]]? Compare the word "[[http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=disaster disaster]]", which has the etymology "away; without" ("dis") + "star; planet" ("aster"). Then again, [[WhenThePlanetsAlign if the stars rule that much]], they probably decreed the love as well as the impossibility, making the stars capricious and cruel, at the very least. It also refers to [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny]] and [[FateDrivesUsTogether the inevitability of the two characters' paths crossing each other]]. It usually, but not always, refers to unlucky outcomes, since Romeo and Juliet's affair ended tragically. Further, it may also connote that the lovers entered into their union without sufficient forethought or preparation, that the lovers did not have had adequate knowledge of each other, or that they were not thinking rationally (because they were being controlled by fate).

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In modern times, the term "star-crossed" is often unknowingly misused to mean lovers who are meant to be together. It means just the opposite--the stars (i.e. destiny or the heavens) have ruled against them, or "crossed" their plan--[[DontExplainTheJoke get it]]? Compare the word "[[http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=disaster disaster]]", which has the etymology "away; without" ("dis") + "star; planet" ("aster"). Then again, [[WhenThePlanetsAlign if the stars rule that much]], they probably decreed the love as well as the impossibility, making the stars capricious and cruel, at the very least. It also refers to [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny]] and [[FateDrivesUsTogether the inevitability of the two characters' paths crossing each other]]. It usually, but not always, refers to unlucky outcomes, since Romeo and Juliet's affair ended tragically. Further, it may also connote that the lovers entered into their union without sufficient forethought or preparation, that the lovers did not have had adequate knowledge of each other, or that they were not thinking rationally (because they were being controlled by fate).
14th Apr '16 6:26:38 PM IronicMouse
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* ''WesternAnimation/ToyStoryThatTimeForgot'': [[{{Parody}} Parodied]] with Trixie the triceratops and newcomer Reptilus Maximus. Reptilus belongs to Bonnie's friend Mason, so the two can only see each other during their owners' playdates. In the film's {{Stinger}}, Reptilus makes his way up to Mason's window and stares longingly out into the snow.
--> '''Reptilus:''' Farewell, Trixie of the Bonn-Yee tribe. My heart will burn bright, until the moment of your return...Tuesday, around 3:30.
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