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22nd Jul '16 9:17:53 AM MrUnderhill
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*** It's still too early to say for sure, but Windows 10 got positive reviews upon release, making it look like the curse has been broken. However, [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] and Microsoft's [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade may lead to it being played straight again.

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*** It's still too early to say for sure, but Windows 10 got positive reviews upon release, making it look like the curse has been broken. However, [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] and Microsoft's [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade may lead to it being played straight again.
18th Jul '16 7:59:08 AM longWriter
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*** It's still too early to say for sure, but Windows 10 got positive reviews upon release, making it look like the curse has been broken. However, [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] and Microsoft's [[StopHelpingMe rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade may lead to it being played straight again.

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*** It's still too early to say for sure, but Windows 10 got positive reviews upon release, making it look like the curse has been broken. However, [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] and Microsoft's [[StopHelpingMe [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade may lead to it being played straight again.
9th Jul '16 11:40:40 AM FordPrefect
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* The best remembered seasons of the original version of Wrestling/WWENXT are the odd-numbered seasons. The first was universally considered the best, back when the NXT concept was being taken seriously. It directly led to Wrestling/TheNexus, one of the most iconic angle in WWE history, and also launched the short-lived but hugely memorable WWE career of [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]]. The third season is remembered for being the only all-female season and for its SoBadItsGood nature, to the point that [[Wrestling/NXT3 the season got a page all to itself]]. The fifth was the year-long season that had a noticeable retool, that, for better or worse, gave the product a different image. The second and fourth seasons, however? They were forgotten almost instantly.

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* The best remembered seasons of the original version of Wrestling/WWENXT are the odd-numbered seasons. The first was universally considered the best, back when the NXT concept was being taken seriously. It directly led to Wrestling/TheNexus, one of the most iconic angle angles in WWE history, and also launched the short-lived but hugely memorable WWE career of [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]]. The third season is remembered for being the only all-female season and for its SoBadItsGood nature, to the point that [[Wrestling/NXT3 the season got a page all to itself]]. The fifth was the year-long season that had with a noticeable retool, retool that, for better or worse, gave the product a different image. The second and fourth seasons, however? They were forgotten almost instantly.
9th Jul '16 11:40:00 AM FordPrefect
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* The odd-numbered Music/LudwigVanBeethoven symphonies are the classics (At least 5 and 9 are. 3 and 7 are on the edge. 1, not so much), whereas the evens (except for 6) don't get as much attention.

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* The odd-numbered Music/LudwigVanBeethoven symphonies are the classics (At (at least 5 and 9 are. 3 and 7 are on the edge. 1, not so much), whereas the evens (except for 6) don't get as much attention.
9th Jul '16 11:39:27 AM FordPrefect
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** Some argue that the curse didn't start until Series/SiskelAndEbert listed ''Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier'' among the ten worst movies of 1989. ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' was financially successful allowing for a sequel, and ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' accomplished its two primary purposes, [[spoiler: resurrect Spock, so they could make more movies]], and to establish LeonardNimoy's credentials as a competent film director.

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** Some argue that the curse didn't start until Series/SiskelAndEbert listed ''Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier'' among the ten worst movies of 1989. ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' was financially successful allowing for a sequel, and ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' accomplished its two primary purposes, purposes: [[spoiler: resurrect Spock, so they could make more movies]], and to establish LeonardNimoy's credentials as a competent film director.
7th Jul '16 3:26:00 PM N8han11
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* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'': The even ones win out here: the first installment was seen as an upstart fighting game that has yet to find its voice. ''Melee'' is considered a substantial improvement and widely considered to be the best four-player party fighter of all time. ''Brawl'' was still tons of fun for most gamers, but many people thought the gameplay wasn't nearly as competitive-friendly as ''Melee'' was. The fourth game was widely seen as a return to ''Melee'''s form, keeping some of ''Brawl'''s more liked changes while reverting the less popular ones back to how they were in ''Melee''.

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* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'': The even ones win out here: the first installment was seen as an upstart fighting game that has yet to find its voice. ''Melee'' is considered a substantial improvement and widely considered to be the best four-player party fighter of all time. ''Brawl'' was still tons of fun for most gamers, but many people thought the gameplay wasn't nearly as competitive-friendly as ''Melee'' was. The fourth game was widely seen as a return to ''Melee'''s ''Melee''s form, keeping some of ''Brawl'''s more liked changes while reverting the less popular ones back to how they were in ''Melee''.
27th Jun '16 4:08:21 PM LaptopGuy
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* The odd-numbered Music/LudwigVanBeethoven symphonies are the classics (3, 5, 7, and 9. 1, not so much), whereas the evens (except for 6) don't get as much attention.

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* The odd-numbered Music/LudwigVanBeethoven symphonies are the classics (3, 5, 7, (At least 5 and 9.9 are. 3 and 7 are on the edge. 1, not so much), whereas the evens (except for 6) don't get as much attention.



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* The best remembered seasons of the original version of Wrestling/WWENXT are the odd-numbered seasons. The first was universally considered the best, back when the NXT concept was being taken seriously. It directly led to Wrestling/TheNexus, one of the most iconic angle in WWE history, and also launched the short-lived but hugely memorable WWE career of [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]]. The third season is remembered for being the only all-female season and for its SoBadItsGood nature, to the point that [[Wrestling/NXT3 the season got a page all to itself]]. The fifth was the year-long season that had a noticeable retool, that, for better or worse, gave the product a different image. The second and fourth seasons, however? They were forgotten almost instantly.




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* The canonical ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' games: The [[VideoGame/StreetFighterII second]] and [[VideoGame/StreetFighterIV fourth]] games in the series are remembered as the games that respectively launched and reinvigorated the fighting game genres. The [[VideoGame/StreetFighter first game]], which played very differently, [[SequelDisplacement has been largely forgotten in the shadow of its successors]], the [[VideoGame/StreetFighterIII third is seen as great]] but not ''quite'' on the level of the second, and the [[VideoGame/StreetFighterV fifth]] is highly divisive due to the limited features and it being seen as too unfriendly for casual gamers.
* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'': The even ones win out here: the first installment was seen as an upstart fighting game that has yet to find its voice. ''Melee'' is considered a substantial improvement and widely considered to be the best four-player party fighter of all time. ''Brawl'' was still tons of fun for most gamers, but many people thought the gameplay wasn't nearly as competitive-friendly as ''Melee'' was. The fourth game was widely seen as a return to ''Melee'''s form, keeping some of ''Brawl'''s more liked changes while reverting the less popular ones back to how they were in ''Melee''.



*** Since the release of the Investigation 2 FanTranslation,it seems to have completely inverted both cases,since fans trend to think that the game is much better than the first ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'',and the third case is actually considered the best by some fans.

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*** Since the release of the Investigation 2 FanTranslation,it FanTranslation, it seems to have completely inverted both cases,since cases, since fans trend to think that the game is much better than the first ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'',and ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'', and the third case is actually considered the best by some fans.
1st Jun '16 4:51:19 PM Meritocrat
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** There is also a school of thought which holds that this 'rule' never really existed, since many consider ''StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' pretty good if not great.

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** There is also a school of thought which holds that this 'rule' never really existed, since many consider ''StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' pretty good if not great. (As well as the ''many'' who think that ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' wasn't all that bad.)
1st Jun '16 6:09:38 AM tropeminer
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'': In the 20th century, the page-naming Curse was fairly consistent (to the point where ''Insurrection's'' crew made a point of calling the film "Nine of Ten" on set to stave off the odd number's influence, not that it helped). But this century the Curse seems to have gone off the rails -- 2002's ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' flopped while 2009's ''Film/StarTrek'' was a hit, contrary to their positions in the series. It is unknown whether this anomaly means the Curse has actually been broken, or merely inverted.
** Among those who do consider ''10'' bad and ''11'' good, there are several commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality". One is using the sum of the digits as an indicator, or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''Film/GalaxyQuest'' as a ''Star Trek'' movie, inserting it between 9 (''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''), as [[http://qntm.org/odd put by]] [[Website/ThingsOfInterest Sam Hughes]]. Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and thus, like ''Film/{{Star Trek V|The Final Frontier}}'', was bad; in other words, the curse has a previously-undiscovered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizzbuzz FizzBuzz property]]. This is followed by the explanation that ''Film/StarTrek'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of time-traveling Romulans -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest. Some have also taken to referring the [[ContinuityReboot reboot]] film as "''Star Trek 0''," thus placing it in an arguably even spot.
*** The following film, ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', muddies the waters even further; it was successful critically and financially, but created a BrokenBase among fans.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'': In the 20th century, the page-naming Curse curse was fairly consistent (to the point where ''Insurrection's'' crew made a point of calling the film "Nine of Ten" on set to stave off the odd number's influence, not that it helped). But this century the Curse seems to have gone off the rails -- 2002's ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' flopped while 2009's ''Film/StarTrek'' was a hit, contrary to their positions in the series. It is unknown whether this anomaly means the Curse curse has actually been broken, or merely inverted.
** Among those who do consider ''10'' bad and ''11'' good, there are several commonly proposed methods to realign the curse with "reality". One is using the sum of the digits as an indicator, indicator (10; '''1'''+'''0'''=1, an odd number and 11; '''1'''+'''1'''=2, an even number), or alternatively including the AffectionateParody ''Film/GalaxyQuest'' as a ''Star "''Star Trek'' movie, movie", inserting it between 9 (''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'') and 10 (''Nemesis''), (''Nemesis'') as [[http://qntm.org/odd put by]] [[Website/ThingsOfInterest Sam Hughes]]. Another theory states that ''Nemesis'' wasn't good because it was a multiple of five, and thus, like ''Film/{{Star Trek V|The Final Frontier}}'', was bad; in other words, the curse has a previously-undiscovered [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizzbuzz FizzBuzz property]]. This is followed by the explanation that ''Film/StarTrek'' doesn't follow the pattern because of the interference of time-traveling Romulans -- besides, it wasn't made by the same crew as the rest. Some have also taken to referring the [[ContinuityReboot reboot]] film as "''Star Trek 0''," thus placing it in an arguably even spot.
*** The following film, ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', muddies the waters even further; it was successful critically and financially, but created a BrokenBase among fans. Some still maintain the curse is now inverted as they felt ''Into Darkness'' wasn't as fresh as the 2009 reboot.
31st May '16 1:10:27 AM tropeminer
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*** The following film, ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', muddies the waters even further; it was successful critically and financially, but created a BrokenBase among fans.



** The following film, ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', muddies the waters even further; it was successful critically and financially, but created a BrokenBase among fans.
** There is also a school of thought which holds that this 'rule' never really existed, since many consider StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock pretty good if not great.

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** The following film, ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', muddies the waters even further; it was successful critically and financially, but created a BrokenBase among fans.
** There is also a school of thought which holds that this 'rule' never really existed, since many consider StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock ''StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' pretty good if not great.
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