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15th Jun '17 10:54:21 PM Spangooner
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* ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'': Also seems to have this curse with (Not counting the spin-offs or upgrades) 1, 3 and 5 being considered great while 2, 4 and 6 was decent at best. For the Tag Tournament games, the first was seen as great and the second was OK.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'': Also seems to have this curse with (Not counting the spin-offs or upgrades) 1, 3 and 5 being considered great while 2, 4 and 6 was decent at best. 7 seems to be getting very favorable reviews so far. For the Tag Tournament games, the first was seen as great and the second was OK.
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28th May '17 1:43:59 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is an interesting case. While season 1 is by no means considered ''bad'', it suffered from EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and a much more restrictive [[AnAesop Aesop]] format. Season 2 is generally considered to be where the show [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]] (although it had far more controversial episodes than season 1 did), but was followed by season 3, which is the most controversial and poorly received so far (especially the finale). Then season 4 was mostly well-received ([[HolyShitQuotient especially the finale]]). Season 5 (seemingly) broke this trend by being generally well-received. However, Season 6 led to a bit of a BrokenBase, meaning it could be that the curse has either been fully lifted, or that it simply operates on multiples of three, depending on who you ask.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is an interesting case. While season 1 is by no means considered ''bad'', it suffered from EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and a much more restrictive [[AnAesop Aesop]] format. Season 2 is generally considered to be where the show [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]] (although it had far more controversial episodes than season 1 did), but was followed by season 3, which is the most controversial and poorly received so far (especially the finale). Then season 4 was mostly well-received ([[HolyShitQuotient especially the finale]]). Season 5 (seemingly) broke this trend by being generally well-received. However, Season 6 led to a bit of a BrokenBase, meaning it could be that the curse has either been fully lifted, or that it simply operates on multiples of three, depending on who you ask.



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9th May '17 10:09:46 AM Vir
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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even TheUnfavourite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used to how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control).

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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even TheUnfavourite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used to how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control).
9th May '17 10:09:31 AM Vir
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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even TheUnfavourite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used to how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control)

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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even TheUnfavourite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used to how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control)control).
9th May '17 10:07:25 AM Vir
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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even TheUnfavourite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control)

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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even TheUnfavourite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used to how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control)
9th May '17 10:04:47 AM Vir
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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even the UnFavorite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control)

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* UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows has had the curse since Windows 3.1, at least when it comes to their major public releases. Windows 98, Windows XP, and Windows 7 were all popular and well-received, while Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8 made rather controversial changes, were unstable, or had other problems which made it difficult to recommend upgrading. (Even the UnFavorite TheUnfavourite releases have their fans, of course.) Windows releases tend to follow a pattern of "revolutionary" - in which many changes are made at once - followed by "evolutionary", or mostly polishing what was in the last one. Thus, every other version has a lot of new bugs ''and'' new features, and takes some getting used to; by the time the next version comes out, these issues have mostly been resolved (by patches and service packs for the software, and by users getting used how it looks and works). Another way of looking at it is that Microsoft puts out a "public beta", followed a couple of years later by the final, mostly-working-as-advertised version, charging their customers for both (and for the privilege of testing their software for them). Microsoft followed Windows 8 with Windows 10 (skipping Windows 9), which was better received than its predecessor by major reviewers and generally continuing the pattern, though with [[BigBrotherIsWatching concerns over privacy]] with the new telemetry system, Microsoft's [[UnwantedAssistance rather pushy efforts]] to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade, and the even more pushier automatic update systems within Windows 10 itself (basically barring hacking, you can't set Windows 10 updates to manual control)
13th Apr '17 1:27:53 PM MorphinBrony
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' followed this for a while. While season 1 is by no means considered ''bad'', it suffered from EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and a much more restrictive [[AnAesop Aesop]] format. Season 2 is generally considered to be where the show [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]] (although it had far more controversial episodes than season 1 did), but was followed by season 3, which is the most controversial and poorly received so far (especially the finale). Then season 4 was mostly well-received ([[HolyShitQuotient especially the finale]]). Season 5 broke this trend by being generally well-received. So far Season 6 has lead to a bit of a BrokenBase though, meaning it could be that the curse has either been fully lifted or merely inverted, depending on who you ask. The spinoff [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]] also follows this, with the second movie being much better received than the first or third.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' followed this for a while.is an interesting case. While season 1 is by no means considered ''bad'', it suffered from EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and a much more restrictive [[AnAesop Aesop]] format. Season 2 is generally considered to be where the show [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]] (although it had far more controversial episodes than season 1 did), but was followed by season 3, which is the most controversial and poorly received so far (especially the finale). Then season 4 was mostly well-received ([[HolyShitQuotient especially the finale]]). Season 5 (seemingly) broke this trend by being generally well-received. So far However, Season 6 has lead led to a bit of a BrokenBase though, BrokenBase, meaning it could be that the curse has either been fully lifted lifted, or merely inverted, that it simply operates on multiples of three, depending on who you ask. ask.
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The spinoff [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]] also follows this, with the second movie being much better received than the first or third.
9th Apr '17 3:39:57 PM Kanten
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** It's not unheard of to hear people joke that Microsoft skipped "Windows 9" because that one would have been a ''good'' OS.
4th Apr '17 10:17:55 AM MyFinalEdits
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* The odd-numbered Music/LudwigVanBeethoven symphonies are the classics (at least 5 and 9 are. 3 and 7 are on the edge. 1, not so much), whereas the evens (except for 6) don't get as much attention.
3rd Apr '17 9:17:23 PM sayaleviathan
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* For ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', it's the "sequel series curse", where sequels to a series other than the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' tend to be poorly received in comparison: ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'', ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', and to an extent the second seasons of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans. Averted with ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz Endless Waltz]]''. For the moment appears to be downplayed with ''Anime/GundamBuildFighters'' and ''Anime/GundamBuildFightersTry'', with BF being a ToughActToFollow but reactions to ''Try'' still being generally positive, if not to the degree of its predecessor.

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* For ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', it's the "sequel series curse", where sequels to a series other than the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' tend to be poorly received in comparison: ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'', ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'', and to an extent the second seasons of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' and ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans.''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans''. Averted with ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz Endless Waltz]]''. For the moment appears to be downplayed with ''Anime/GundamBuildFighters'' and ''Anime/GundamBuildFightersTry'', with BF being a ToughActToFollow but reactions to ''Try'' still being generally positive, if not to the degree of its predecessor.
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