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26th Mar '17 5:21:48 AM Divra
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** Harry himself has dismissed direct physical enhancement as an impractical use of magic given the number of [[RequiredSecondaryPowers required secondary alterations]]. It's possible having worked out those problems means giving up some claim to be human, and the White Council seems very reluctant to think of a nonhuman as a "wizard", making the term self-enforcing. At one point, Harry goes on a rant lampshading this trope during an alley duel. His enemy turns out to be an exception. Oops. Personally, Harry laughs at this trope. He runs regularly, trains aikido (it's his best friend's preferred style, and has several techniques for staff, which are useful when you habitually carry one) and is pretty decent with handguns too. On one occasion, he uses a [[KillItWithFire blast of fiery destruction]] to distract a monster, then runs up and just ''punches it in the face''.

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** Harry himself has dismissed direct physical enhancement as an impractical use of magic given the number of [[RequiredSecondaryPowers required secondary alterations]]. It's possible having worked out those problems means giving up some claim to be human, and the White Council seems very reluctant to think of a nonhuman as a "wizard", making the term self-enforcing. At one point, Harry goes on a rant lampshading this trope during an alley duel. His enemy turns out to be an exception. Oops. ** Personally, Harry laughs at this trope. He runs regularly, trains aikido (it's his best friend's preferred style, and has several techniques for staff, which are useful when you habitually carry one) and is pretty decent with handguns too. On one occasion, he uses a [[KillItWithFire blast of fiery destruction]] to distract a monster, then runs up and just ''punches it in the face''.
24th Mar '17 5:12:57 AM Carnel
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**Likewise, due to being inherently weaker than humans in general, the stronger [[OurFairiesAreDifferent fairies]] come out as being a variation of this while lacking in the intelligence aspect, capable of fighting both humans and youkai alike with their abilities, occasionally even those of vastly higher power levels, but are at the mercy of whoever manages to physically apprehend them. Luckily, they get ResurrectiveImmortality for the inevitable situations where this occurs.
21st Mar '17 8:29:40 PM merotoker
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In addition in combination with the concept of DrawAggro, this was one of the biggest contributors to the standard DamagerHealerTank party formation as seen in many {{MMORPG}}s -- because characters that can nuke the hell out of the opposition and heal allies are usually the squishiest members of the party. The StoneWall, who can withstand aggro and keep it off the others, was created to keep these squishy party members alive during those big battles.

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In addition in combination with the concept of DrawAggro, this was one of the biggest contributors to the standard DamagerHealerTank party formation as seen in many {{MMORPG}}s {{M|assivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame}}MORPGs -- because characters that can nuke the hell out of the opposition and heal allies are usually the squishiest members of the party. The StoneWall, who can withstand aggro and keep it off the others, was created to keep these squishy party members alive during those big battles.



* Rachel Grey is an omega-level mutant with telekinesis and telepathy that are practically reality-warping and she's curb-stomped Comicbook/{{Galactus}} before, but in a pure melee she gets dropped fairly often including an absolutely vicious NoHoldsBarredBeatdown from her uncle Vulcan after he ambushed her.

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* Rachel Grey ComicBook/RachelSummers is an omega-level mutant with telekinesis and telepathy that are practically reality-warping and she's curb-stomped Comicbook/{{Galactus}} before, but in a pure melee she gets dropped fairly often including an absolutely vicious NoHoldsBarredBeatdown from her uncle Vulcan after he ambushed her.



* LegendOfTheFiveRings subverts this in various ways. Mechanically spellcasting depends heavily on a character's Rings. Each Ring has two traits, one physical and one mental, so any Shugenja (spellcaster) worth his scrolls has at least one good physical trait. Fire users are very agile and Earth casters are very durable for example so the "Wizard" is not much more "squishy" than any other character. There are no class restrictions to wearing armour and wielding honking big swords if someone is a shugenja either; the restrictions are largely ''social''. Carrying a katana implies that you know how to use it, wearing armour states that you are a military combatant rather than a priest like other shugenja.

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* LegendOfTheFiveRings ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'' subverts this in various ways. Mechanically spellcasting depends heavily on a character's Rings. Each Ring has two traits, one physical and one mental, so any Shugenja (spellcaster) worth his scrolls has at least one good physical trait. Fire users are very agile and Earth casters are very durable for example so the "Wizard" is not much more "squishy" than any other character. There are no class restrictions to wearing armour and wielding honking big swords if someone is a shugenja either; the restrictions are largely ''social''. Carrying a katana implies that you know how to use it, wearing armour states that you are a military combatant rather than a priest like other shugenja.



* Used ''literally'' in VideoGame/SpyroYearOfTheDragon. Could be seen [[http://youtu.be/GgqMv8HZS7Q?t=21m58s here.]]

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* Used ''literally'' in VideoGame/SpyroYearOfTheDragon.''VideoGame/SpyroYearOfTheDragon''. Could be seen [[http://youtu.be/GgqMv8HZS7Q?t=21m58s here.]]



* [[WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor Tolietnator]] and [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls Him]] are this in VideoGame/CartoonNetworkPunchTimeExplosion. The former uses [[ImprobableWeaponUser toliet paper and plunger to fight]] and his PTE is an extreme GameBreaker. The latter can transform to attack, and weird recovery, and he has a bunch of annoying glitches.

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* [[WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor Tolietnator]] and [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls Him]] are this in VideoGame/CartoonNetworkPunchTimeExplosion.''VideoGame/CartoonNetworkPunchTimeExplosion''. The former uses [[ImprobableWeaponUser toliet paper and plunger to fight]] and his PTE is an extreme GameBreaker. The latter can transform to attack, and weird recovery, and he has a bunch of annoying glitches.



* Reyvateils in the ''VideoGame/ArTonelico'' series are this combining with a very dangerous GlassCannon. They can't attack or defend and tend to have very low hit points. Instead, they sing a song to either cast a powerful recovery magic every turn, or to build up a CombinedEnergyAttack while the enemies are busy attacking their bodyguards, and then launch it and hit for massive damage. The only exception for the first two games is [[spoiler: Coccona, a CuteBruiser who fits as a bodyguard instead of a singer.]]

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* Reyvateils in the ''VideoGame/ArTonelico'' series are this combining with a very dangerous GlassCannon. They can't attack or defend and tend to have very low hit points. Instead, they sing a song to either cast a powerful recovery magic every turn, or to build up a CombinedEnergyAttack while the enemies are busy attacking their bodyguards, and then launch it and hit for massive damage. The only exception for the first two games is [[spoiler: Coccona, a CuteBruiser who fits as a bodyguard instead of a singer.]]singer]].



* ZigZagged in the ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games and ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''. Start off in the first game with a Scoundrel class, then upgrade to Consular, and you have a classic squishy wizard. A Soldier who cross-classes into a Guardian ends up more or less a MagicKnight, as they don't have the sheer power of a Consular, but they won't ''need'' it with that much hit points. Kreia in the second game is ''very'' squishy, especially since she also loses a hand early on in the story, but her ability is to share buffs with the PlayerCharacter. The Disciple in the same game is a subversion; starts off as the tankier ''Soldier'' class, and ''then'' cross-classes into Consular with enough influence, meaning you have a tank (heavy armor, heavy weapons) who can put out crazy amounts of Force abilities. In ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'', the Consular Sage is a classic case of this, meaning they'll be leaning heavily on their companion to do the tanking. However, the Consular Shadow can be a full on subversion, specced as a ''tank'' that still puts out crazy amounts of Force-powered damage.

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* ZigZagged ZigZaggingTrope in the ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' games and ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic''. Start off in the first game with a Scoundrel class, then upgrade to Consular, and you have a classic squishy wizard. A Soldier who cross-classes into a Guardian ends up more or less a MagicKnight, as they don't have the sheer power of a Consular, but they won't ''need'' it with that much hit points. Kreia in the second game is ''very'' squishy, especially since she also loses a hand early on in the story, but her ability is to share buffs with the PlayerCharacter. The Disciple in the same game is a subversion; starts off as the tankier ''Soldier'' class, and ''then'' cross-classes into Consular with enough influence, meaning you have a tank (heavy armor, heavy weapons) who can put out crazy amounts of Force abilities. In ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'', the Consular Sage is a classic case of this, meaning they'll be leaning heavily on their companion to do the tanking. However, the Consular Shadow can be a full on subversion, specced as a ''tank'' that still puts out crazy amounts of Force-powered damage.



* Wizards in ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' are no more durable than they were at their [[TheTeamNormal Mortal]] beginnings. Some Wizards learn an elaborate array of defensive spells and enchantments to make up for this, but others believe that the best defense is a [[TheGunslinger good offense]].

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* Wizards in ''[[NexusWar ''[[VideoGame/NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' are no more durable than they were at their [[TheTeamNormal Mortal]] beginnings. Some Wizards learn an elaborate array of defensive spells and enchantments to make up for this, but others believe that the best defense is a [[TheGunslinger good offense]].



** A somewhat more literal example. The episode Wizard Battle features a wizard named Abrakadaniel, whose body is squishy:

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** A somewhat more literal example. The episode Wizard Battle "Wizard Battle" features a wizard named Abrakadaniel, whose body is squishy:
14th Feb '17 8:07:11 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/LegendOfTheSeeker'': Zedd, though he still occasionally manages to knock an enemy out with a blunt weapon from behind in cases where he can't use his magic.
11th Feb '17 11:29:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* Doubly so in ''WarhammerOnline'': not only are Bright Mages and Dark Elf Sorcerers weaklings who have fewer hitpoints than everyone else and lack any form of armor whatsoever, but their spells can actually cause a magical backlash which hurts ''them'' too. HilarityEnsues when they somehow manage to blow themselves up trying to kill you (which is rare, admittedly. Because they kill you very, very fast).

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* Doubly so in ''WarhammerOnline'': ''VideoGame/WarhammerOnline'': not only are Bright Mages and Dark Elf Sorcerers weaklings who have fewer hitpoints than everyone else and lack any form of armor whatsoever, but their spells can actually cause a magical backlash which hurts ''them'' too. HilarityEnsues when they somehow manage to blow themselves up trying to kill you (which is rare, admittedly. Because they kill you very, very fast).
27th Jan '17 12:43:16 PM HighCrate
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* Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series:
** Hari Seldon generally appears in a wheelchair. ''Prelude to Foundation'' (that deals with a young Seldon) describes it as almost sacrilege to think of him outside of that chair. [[spoiler:Even moreso as a good martial artist, which he was.]]
** The Mule.

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* %%* Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series:
** %%** Hari Seldon generally appears in a wheelchair. ''Prelude to Foundation'' (that deals with a young Seldon) describes it as almost sacrilege to think of him outside of that chair. [[spoiler:Even moreso as a good martial artist, which he was.]]
** %%** The Mule.
26th Jan '17 11:26:12 PM PaulA
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* [[spoiler:The Mule]] in Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series. Also Hari Seldon who generally appears in a wheelchair. ''Prelude to Foundation'' (that deals with a young Seldon) describes it as almost sacrilege to think of him outside of that chair. [[spoiler:Even moreso as a good martial artist, which he was.]]

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* [[spoiler:The Mule]] in Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series. Also series:
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Hari Seldon who generally appears in a wheelchair. ''Prelude to Foundation'' (that deals with a young Seldon) describes it as almost sacrilege to think of him outside of that chair. [[spoiler:Even moreso as a good martial artist, which he was.]]]]
** The Mule.
17th Jan '17 4:03:16 PM Nin10DillN64
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* Mages in ''Sinjid: Shadow of the Warrior'' and Priests in ''Sinjid'' have powerful magic abilities, but are lacking in health and physical strength. Depending on the build you choose, the Priest can either be a magically-based GlassCannon or a magically-based FragileSpeedster. Interestingly enough, the Mage inverts the LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards trope; it starts out stronger than the [[MagikarpPower Warrior]], but becomes outclassed by it lategame. The Priest plays it straight, however.

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* Mages in ''Sinjid: Shadow ''VideoGame/{{Sinjid}}'': ''Shadow of the Warrior'' and Priests in ''Sinjid'' have powerful magic abilities, but are lacking in health and physical strength. Depending on the build you choose, the Priest can either be a magically-based GlassCannon or a magically-based FragileSpeedster. Interestingly enough, the Mage inverts the LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards trope; it starts out stronger than the [[MagikarpPower Warrior]], but becomes outclassed by it lategame. The Priest plays it straight, however.
7th Jan '17 3:14:36 AM Psychadelico
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* In Myth/NorseMythology, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiðr seiðr]] (a kind of sorcery) was considered [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergi argr]] ("unmanly"), and capable of making men who practice it weak and helpless.

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* In Myth/NorseMythology, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiðr seiðr]] (a kind of sorcery) was considered [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergi argr]] ("unmanly"), and capable of making men who practice it weak and helpless. Which didn't stop Odin [[http://norse-mythology.org/concepts/seidr/ from practicing it.]]
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