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22nd Jun '17 1:42:36 AM Dravencour
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* Subverted in ''Film/{{Warlock}}''. For the most part the Warlock indeed relies on his eldritch powers and avoids physical confrontation. In the climax [[TheWItchHunter Redferne]] challenges him to take the final pages of the [[TomeOfEldritchLore Grand Grimoire]] from him by force alone, without magic. The Warlock agrees and it looks like a typical BatmanGambit when the hero plays on the villain's hubris to even the scale, but the Warlock holds his own pretty well in a fight and it's ''Redferne'' who has to resort to [[HolyBurnsEvil supernatural]] means to stop the Warlock from kicking his ass.

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* Subverted in ''Film/{{Warlock}}''. For the most part the Warlock indeed relies on his eldritch powers and avoids physical confrontation. In the climax [[TheWItchHunter [[TheWitchHunter Redferne]] challenges him to take the final pages of the [[TomeOfEldritchLore Grand Grimoire]] from him by force alone, without magic. The Warlock agrees and it looks like a typical BatmanGambit when the hero plays on the villain's hubris to even the scale, but the Warlock holds his own pretty well in a fight and it's ''Redferne'' who has to resort to [[HolyBurnsEvil supernatural]] means to stop the Warlock from kicking his ass.
17th Jun '17 12:15:59 PM Skylentt
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* Though not stricky a magician but rather a reality warper, Rod Kanelot has displayed very few physical feats especially compared to her superhuman Noah brothers. Her mist impressive one being probablysaltoing from flying umbrella and landing back on it which is a pretty common feat compared to most fighters of the series. However this is hardly an issue since her physical body is not really hers and damaging ut is completely useless meaning that in spite of having the most terrifying abilities she is also pretty much invunerable.... Suoer-poer lottery much?
13th Jun '17 12:47:34 PM Prometheus117
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* Whilst most of the ''Manga/FairyTail'' cast are either {{Kung Fu Wizard}}s or {{Magic Knight}}s, a handful of characters play this straight. Levy, Wendy and Bixlow are all pretty weak if you can get past their magic (and if you have your eyes closed in Bixlow's case). This is {{discussed|Trope}} early on, when some mercenaries mention that most mages neglect to keep their bodies in shape while they study magic. They must not have met many.

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* Whilst most of the ''Manga/FairyTail'' cast are either {{Kung Fu Wizard}}s or {{Magic Knight}}s, a handful of characters play this straight. Levy, Wendy Levy and Bixlow are all both pretty weak if you can get past their magic (and if you have your eyes closed in Bixlow's case).case). Wendy and Lucy near the beginning were also pretty helpless if their Magic was overcome, though Wendy got by this by training and emulating Natsu's fighting style more and Lucy eventually figured out how to [[PowerCopying use her spirits' powers herself]]. This is {{discussed|Trope}} early on, when some mercenaries mention that most mages neglect to keep their bodies in shape while they study magic. They must not have met many.
11th Jun '17 5:05:20 PM nombretomado
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* Ethereals in ''[[{{X-COM}} UFO: Enemy Unknown]]'' are frail aliens who couldn't walk, much less use {{BFG}}s, if not for their immense psi powers. The difficulty of fighting Ethereals compared to, say, Mutons makes UFO a deadset LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards situation.

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* Ethereals in ''[[{{X-COM}} ''[[VideoGame/XCOMUFODefense UFO: Enemy Unknown]]'' are frail aliens who couldn't walk, much less use {{BFG}}s, if not for their immense psi powers. The difficulty of fighting Ethereals compared to, say, Mutons makes UFO a deadset LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards situation.
4th Jun '17 11:38:22 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** Averted by the [[ReligionIsMagic divine spellcasters]] such as the [[WarriorMonk Cleric]] and the {{Druid}}. Both have a d8 hit die. Clerics can cast all sorts of protective spells on themselves and their allies, plus they get heavy armour. As for Druids, well, imagine fighting a ''[[TyrannosaurusRex friggin' tyrannosaur]]'' that can cast 9th level spells.
4th Jun '17 11:37:29 AM CaptainCrawdad
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*** Sorcerers in 4E unleash their power though 'psychical discipline', have strength as a key ability and have basic weapon skills. Some can also reinforce their bodies with magic. Not squishy, but tend to have low Armor Class.
*** Constitution-based Warlocks are among the toughest of the caster classes. This was explained as their powers being harmful to the mortal body by default. One such build, the Infernal Pact Warlock, can even gain temporary hp when Cursed enemies die, improving their staying power even more. This leads to the popular nickname "clothroach" for an Infernal Pact Warlock. Dark Pact warlocks don't have the same sack-of-HP qualities, but if you hit them, you take a pile of damage and are weakened. Sort of a horrible supernatural porcupine.
*** There's also the factor of enemy damage output in 4E being so low that no-one is squishy as long as enemies divide attacks, and everyone is squishy if enemies focus their attacks on one target at a time which renders the question of "more" or "less" squishy moot.



* Mages in all ''TabletopGame/TheWorldOfDarkness'' games are by far its most powerful and versatile supernatural creatures in general -- but since they're physically human, they're still Squishy Wizards compared to vampires, [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]], werewolves, and [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen demons]], and need time to set up their more impressive feats, not to mention the risk of a [[WeirdnessCensor Paradox backlash]] if any {{Muggles}} see them working "magick."\\
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Then you have ''[[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension the Technocracy]]'', the Sons of Ether, and the Virtual Adepts. Because the way the system is set up, the rules of the universe is defined by what most people believe to be possible; i.e. technology and science works because people believe it should. All three of these mage groups use very scifi-style magic and magical devices like: power armor, plasma rifles, cybernetics and bioengeneering. Which means you can end up with a spell slinging SpaceMarine character capable of taking on a tank battalion single-handedly. (The Technocracy has five Conventions, each of which has a sub-department dedicated to Breaking Things And People. The Void Engineers have ''actual'' Space Marines.) And there's the Akashic Brotherhood, ''martial artist'' mages.

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* Mages in all ''TabletopGame/TheWorldOfDarkness'' games are by far its most powerful and versatile supernatural creatures in general -- but since they're physically human, they're still Squishy Wizards compared to vampires, [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]], werewolves, and [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen demons]], and need time to set up their more impressive feats, not to mention the risk of a [[WeirdnessCensor Paradox backlash]] if any {{Muggles}} see them working "magick."\\
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Then you have ''[[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension the Technocracy]]'', the Sons of Ether, and the Virtual Adepts. Because the way the system is set up, the rules of the universe is defined by what most people believe to be possible; i.e. technology and science works because people believe it should. All three of these mage groups use very scifi-style magic and magical devices like: power armor, plasma rifles, cybernetics and bioengeneering. Which means you can end up with a spell slinging SpaceMarine character capable of taking on a tank battalion single-handedly. (The Technocracy has five Conventions, each of which has a sub-department dedicated to Breaking Things And People. The Void Engineers have ''actual'' Space Marines.) And there's the Akashic Brotherhood, ''martial artist'' mages.
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2nd Jun '17 10:58:58 AM BeerBaron
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** The Bretons have this as a racial trait as well. While still a bit more hardy than Altmer, they are the most physically frail and most magically gifted of the [[HumansAreWarriors races of Men]]. Notice that says "physically frail," as the Bretons have the [[AntiMagic highest resistance to magical attacks]] of any race - Man, Mer, or Beast. They make for excellent {{Magic Knights}} and {{Mage Killer}}s as a result.

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** The Bretons have this as a racial trait as well. While still a bit more hardy than Altmer, they are the most physically frail and most magically gifted of the [[HumansAreWarriors races of Men]]. Notice that says "physically frail," as the Bretons have the [[AntiMagic highest resistance to magical attacks]] of any race - Man, Mer, or Beast. They make for excellent {{Magic Knights}} Knight}}s and {{Mage Killer}}s as a result.
2nd Jun '17 10:57:59 AM BeerBaron
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** The Bretons have this as a racial trait as well. While still a bit more hardy than Altmer, they are the most physically frail and most magically gifted of the [[HumansAreWarriors races of Men]]. Notice that says "physically frail," as the Bretons have the [[AntiMagic highest resistance to magical attacks]] of any race - Man, Mer, or Beast. They make for excellent {{Magic Knights}} and {{Mage Killer}}s as a result.
31st May '17 6:50:45 AM DarkHunter
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' has the young witch Schierke. While her magic spells make her even more effective in some situations than ''Guts'', said spells generally take a lot of time to cast and while she's casting them she's completely helpless. And without her magic she's just a twelve-year-old girl with a staff, not at all suited for physical combat.
28th May '17 1:59:13 PM dmeagher13
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** Harry could use a little meat on his bones too in the book, having been described as rather thin, though this due to being rather underfed being raised by his aunt and uncle. By ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'' [[Film/HarryPotter film]], he's revealed to be quite athletic-looking once he [[ShirtlessScene takes off his clothes.]] Justified in that he plays sports (i.e. Quiddich), and thus likely gets some kind of workout.

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** Harry could use a little meat on his bones too in the book, having been described as rather thin, though this due to being rather underfed being raised by his aunt and uncle. By ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'' [[Film/HarryPotter film]], he's revealed to be quite athletic-looking once he [[ShirtlessScene takes off his clothes.]] clothes,]] though AdaptationalAttractiveness could also be at play. Justified in that he plays sports (i.e. Quiddich), and thus likely gets some kind of workout.
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