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7th Sep '17 6:30:27 PM CloudCuckooClock
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* Played with by the race/class combinations in ''WebOriginal/CriticalRole'', which seem a little odd for 5th Edition D&D. Most notably, Keyleth and Scanlan. Keyleth is a half-elf druid; half-elves get a +2 to Charisma, but druids cast with Wisdom, and Keyleth's total Charisma modifier is actually ''negative'' for most of the show. Scanlan the gnome bard also counts for the same reason, as gnomes get an Intelligence boost, but bards cast with Charisma. However, the group was originally playing in ''Pathfinder'', where those race/class combos make a lot more sense (half-elves get no bonuses or penalties to their stats, and gnomes get a Charisma boost). They only seem like odd choices if you don't know that the group played in ''Pathfinder'' first.

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* Played with by the race/class combinations in ''WebOriginal/CriticalRole'', ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'', which seem a little odd for 5th Edition D&D. Most notably, Keyleth and Scanlan. Keyleth is a half-elf druid; half-elves get a +2 to Charisma, but druids cast with Wisdom, and Keyleth's total Charisma modifier is actually ''negative'' for most of the show. Scanlan the gnome bard also counts for the same reason, as gnomes get an Intelligence boost, but bards cast with Charisma. However, the group was originally playing in ''Pathfinder'', where those race/class combos make a lot more sense (half-elves get no bonuses or penalties to their stats, and gnomes get a Charisma boost). They only seem like odd choices if you don't know that the group played in ''Pathfinder'' first.
4th Aug '17 9:01:30 AM SgtFrog1
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** The ursine pandaren have the rogue class, despite being not just hefty but downright fat and as honour-bound as the Draenei. They are however very agile, masters of martial arts and their canon rogues are closer to scouts and infiltrators.

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** The ursine pandaren have the rogue class, despite being not just hefty but downright fat and as honour-bound as the Draenei. They are however very agile, masters of martial arts and their canon rogues are closer to scouts and infiltrators. One could also make the case that they're excellent at sneaking due to their paw-like feet.
4th Aug '17 8:57:40 AM SgtFrog1
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*** Rarity may have gotten this from her father, also a unicorn, but whose Cutie Mark is in American football (or its Equestrian equivalent). You wouldn't expect a unicorn to specialize in such a contact-heavy sport, but there he is.
30th Jul '17 5:26:13 PM Prometheus117
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* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', Archer is a Servant who focuses on swordfighting in spite of his class abilities. Lancer notes the absurdity of this, and wonders [[IKnowYourTrueName what legendary hero Archer is supposed to be]], given his [[ComboPlatterPowers strange mish-mash of powers]] unrelated to archery. WordOfGod states he ''could'' have been the Saber for that Grail War, but [[spoiler:King Arthur/[[GenderFlip Arturia]]]] fits the role so well that any other class would fit her even worse.
** Not that that stops Saber from showing up ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' as a Lancer and Rider, which both make sense thematically, but both are Saber ALTER. And the latter is her acting as Santa! Also as an Assassin under the name Mysterious Heroine X/Z where she is dedicated to wiping out all the Saber look-alikes.

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* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''
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Archer is a Servant who focuses on swordfighting in spite of his class abilities. Lancer notes the absurdity of this, and wonders [[IKnowYourTrueName what legendary hero Archer is supposed to be]], given his [[ComboPlatterPowers strange mish-mash of powers]] unrelated to archery. WordOfGod states he ''could'' have been the Saber for that Grail War, but [[spoiler:King Arthur/[[GenderFlip Arturia]]]] fits the role so well that any other class would fit her even worse.
** Not that that stops Saber from showing up ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' as a Lancer and Rider, which both make sense thematically, but both are Saber ALTER.ALTER (and her vanilla self shows up as another Lancer). And the latter is her acting as Santa! Also as an Assassin under the name Mysterious Heroine X/Z where she is dedicated to wiping out all the Saber look-alikes.


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*** While not quite to the same extent, the [[OlderIsBetter original and most powerful Assassin-class]] Servant King Hassan has, despite in fact being an Assassin, an attack sheet more befitting a ''Berserker'', skills that wouldn't be out of place on an Archer, and in-game stats and [[BlackKnight an appearance]] that would make one believe he's a Saber. In-game, the party is quite shocked to realize this guy who looks like he stepped off a Heavy Metal album is actually [[TheDreaded the most feared Assassin in existence]].
20th Jul '17 10:34:15 AM Gitman
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** In the movie itself, there's also a snake and a preying mantis, who kick all sorts of ass in spite of having no limbs and being three inches tall, respectively.

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** In the movie itself, there's also a snake and a preying praying mantis, who kick all sorts of ass in spite of having no limbs and being three inches tall, respectively.
20th Jul '17 10:21:11 AM Gitman
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** Another downplayed example is Durkon Thundershield, Cleric of Thor. Dwarves have a Charisma penalty, which Durkon shares. This makes them a poor choice for the Cleric class, because Charisma modifies Turn Undead checks. Downplayed because Wisdom is the spellcasting stat for Clerics, and Durkon has no deficiency there.
26th Jun '17 8:57:21 AM Shieldage
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*** Elcor are great at reading each other's emotions, so this is more of a subversion.

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*** Elcor are great at reading each other's emotions, so this is more of a subversion.subversion... Although a human able to pick up on the nuance would probably still balk at the length.
24th Jun '17 6:18:51 PM Shieldage
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*** Elcor are great at reading each other's emotions, so this is more of a subversion.
2nd Jun '17 9:18:29 AM Shameimaru
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** Later he gets a melee weapon and still retains his inaccuracy. It's not his weapon, he's just bad at aiming.
18th May '17 12:07:58 AM CountDorku
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*** To a lesser extent there are also Tau Commanders with the Onager Gauntlet, a Tau version of the PowerFist, and Breacher teams, who aren't ''exactly'' melee specialists, but their guns are terrifyingly good...at [[CloseRangeCombatant incredibly short range]].
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