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23rd Apr '18 8:59:30 PM RevDave
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** On the other hand, Vrischika does remark that "the best temptress is one that can make you buy into the illusion of being both promiscuous yet virtuous at the same time; a prostitute-priestess, as it were", implying that Grace is still a succubus in principle.



* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
** Belkar Bitterleaf of the Order of the Stick -- a ChaoticEvil halfling ranger with a level or two of barbarian, making him the deadliest three-foot-tall dagger-wielding [[MemeticMutation Sexy Shoeless God of War]] in the world. He also has fairly poor stats as a ranger, not even having enough Wisdom to cast spells.

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
Part of the meta-humor in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is that most of the main cast (and several side characters) have character builds that are "wrong", or at least unusual:
** Belkar Bitterleaf of the Order of the Stick -- is a ChaoticEvil halfling ranger who became a ranger, even though halflings start with lower CON scores than most other races. (Belkat also clearly had WIS as his DumpStat, so he can't cast any spells.) He later multi-classed to ''barbarian'', despite having the a level or two of barbarian, lower-than-average STR, making him the deadliest three-foot-tall dagger-wielding [[MemeticMutation Sexy Shoeless God of War]] in War]].
** Durkon Thundershield, Cleric of Thor. Dwarves have a Charisma penalty, which Durkon shares. This makes them a problematic choice for
the world. He also has fairly poor stats as a ranger, not even having enough Cleric class, because Charisma modifies Turn Undead checks. On the other hand, because Wisdom to cast spells.is the spellcasting stat for Clerics, and Durkon has no deficiency there.



** Another downplayed example is Durkon Thundershield, Cleric of Thor. Dwarves have a Charisma penalty, which Durkon shares. This makes them a poor choice for the Cleric class, because Charisma modifies Turn Undead checks. Downplayed because Wisdom is the spellcasting stat for Clerics, and Durkon has no deficiency there. In fact, this wiki has noted he is the most OPTIMIZED of the group.
8th Apr '18 10:42:53 AM Yuihime
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*** Gaius Julius Caesar outright says he shouldn't be a Saber, and implications are that his correct class would be Rider. He's a Quick-style specialist, [[{{Acrofatic}} even though the botched summoning turned him obese]]. Despite this, [[LethalJokeCharacter he's a very good Saber for the low-cost metagame]] because his stats are decent, his Quick-style attacks generate lots of critical stars, and his skills support allies as well.
8th Apr '18 5:22:37 AM Malady
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* {{Pokemon}} often learn some moves for flavor purposes despite not having the right stats for using them effectively (for instance, Clawitzer, a Pokémon fully geared towards being a special attacker, learns the physical attack Crabhammer due to its massive claw, despite it being underwhelming when used by it). No player with even a minimum of experience will ever use these {{Useless Useful Spell}}s, but Pokémon in the wild will commonly use them, as will the AI trainers in the main game (the postgame content is a different story). For a recent example, Guzma in ''Sun and Moon'' has a Swords Dancing Golisopod. Golisopod is geared towards hit-and-run tactics using [[ActionInitiative priority attacks]] and will automatically leave the battlefield once its health falls below half, usually wasting the Swords Dance buffs it wasted its turns setting up.

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* {{Pokemon}} ''VideoGame/{{Pokemon}}'': Pokémon often learn some moves for flavor purposes despite not having the right stats for using them effectively (for instance, Clawitzer, a Pokémon fully geared towards being a special attacker, learns the physical attack Crabhammer due to its massive claw, despite it being underwhelming when used by it). No player with even a minimum of experience will ever use these {{Useless Useful Spell}}s, but Pokémon in the wild will commonly use them, as will the AI trainers in the main game (the postgame content is a different story). For a recent example, Guzma in ''Sun and Moon'' has a Swords Dancing Golisopod. Golisopod is geared towards hit-and-run tactics using [[ActionInitiative priority attacks]] and will automatically leave the battlefield once its health falls below half, usually wasting the Swords Dance buffs it wasted its turns setting up.
7th Apr '18 1:27:44 PM MitchellTF
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** Another downplayed example is Durkon Thundershield, Cleric of Thor. Dwarves have a Charisma penalty, which Durkon shares. This makes them a poor choice for the Cleric class, because Charisma modifies Turn Undead checks. Downplayed because Wisdom is the spellcasting stat for Clerics, and Durkon has no deficiency there.

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** Another downplayed example is Durkon Thundershield, Cleric of Thor. Dwarves have a Charisma penalty, which Durkon shares. This makes them a poor choice for the Cleric class, because Charisma modifies Turn Undead checks. Downplayed because Wisdom is the spellcasting stat for Clerics, and Durkon has no deficiency there. In fact, this wiki has noted he is the most OPTIMIZED of the group.
4th Apr '18 8:32:39 AM chopshop
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* Defied in ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'', where there are zero restrictions or stereotypes about what race can play which class. You can play as a elven barbarian or dwarven rogue and nobody comments on it. This extends to [=NPCs=]; your dwarf party member is a ranger, while your bard is part of an orc {{Expy}} race. There are some characters who conform to the typical DND race/class combos (another “orc” who’s a barbarian, an elf wizard, an aasimar expy paladin, etc.), but they don’t really outnumber the more unusual combinations.
29th Mar '18 2:51:11 PM WillKeaton
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* ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVI'' allows every party member to take ranks in every vocation, in any order they choose, and more importantly lets them keep all the spells they learned in that vocation. While it's funny enough to imagine the hulking Carver in mage robes (or healing someone) or the diminutive Nevan as a gladiator, the combat potential is awe-inspiring, allowing for teams of GlassCannon that can revive each other at will, or StoneWalls that take forever to bring to low health only to fully heal themselves in one go...

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* ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVI'' allows every party member to take ranks in every vocation, in any order they choose, and more importantly lets them keep all the spells they learned in that vocation. While it's funny enough to imagine the hulking Carver in mage robes (or healing someone) or the diminutive Nevan as a gladiator, the combat potential is awe-inspiring, allowing for teams of GlassCannon that can revive each other at will, or StoneWalls stone walls that take forever to bring to low health only to fully heal themselves in one go...
29th Mar '18 2:49:53 PM WillKeaton
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** The average hobbit is generally ''not'' fond of adventuring, burglary, or heroic renown even though their latent abilities imply they'd be especially good at it. Most derivations are based upon the Bagginses (who prefer sneaking and cleverness) or Pippin Took (a more moderate warrior type). Wandering "wild" hobbits are still mentioned in the narration, along with a comment that they may be more common than their civilized Shire cousins might think, but none are actually met throughout the story. They seem to be more like survivalist vagabonds than adventure-seekers, however.

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** The average hobbit is generally ''not'' fond of adventuring, burglary, or heroic renown renown, even though their latent abilities imply they'd be especially good at it. Most derivations are based upon the Bagginses (who prefer sneaking and cleverness) or Pippin Took (a more moderate warrior type). Wandering "wild" hobbits are still mentioned in the narration, along with a comment that they may be more common than their civilized Shire cousins might think, but none are actually met throughout the story. They seem to be more like survivalist vagabonds than adventure-seekers, however.
29th Mar '18 2:49:19 PM WillKeaton
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** They also features an [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=97236 Ogre Savant]], with the flavor text, "''He's an oxymoron.''"

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** They also features an [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=97236 Ogre Savant]], Savant,]] with the flavor text, "''He's an oxymoron.''"
28th Mar '18 1:51:49 PM vifetoile
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* Rémy of ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}''. A [[YouDirtyRat rat]] doesn't seem the most obvious choice for becoming a gourmet chef....

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* Rémy of ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}''. A [[YouDirtyRat rat]] doesn't seem the most obvious choice for becoming a gourmet chef.... Justified that even among rats, Remy has an advanced sense of taste and smell, which ties in with his passion for food.
20th Mar '18 4:04:07 PM Monsund
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* ''TabletopGame/WorldOfWarcraft'': The card game adaptation of World Of Warcraft featured a two headed Ogre ''ninja'', Dagg'um Ty'gor. The accompanying illustration shows a gigantic ogre [[HighlyVisibleNinja holding a pair of branches for camouflage]].



** ''Warlords of Draenor'' brings us Dagg, an Ogre follower for your garrison...who's a ''subtlety rogue''. Ogres are even larger and heftier than the playable races, and aren't often known for their subtlety or stealth. It's implied that Dagg gets around his obvious size issue by pretending to be imprisoned in a cage (when you recruit him outside your garrison, he's actually ''wearing'' the cage in question), and [[ObfuscatingStupidity possibly being more intelligent than he sounds]].

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** ''Warlords of Draenor'' brings us Dagg, an Ogre follower for your garrison...who's a ''subtlety rogue''. Ogres are even larger and heftier than the playable races, and aren't often known for their subtlety or stealth. It's implied that Dagg gets around his obvious size issue by pretending to be imprisoned in a cage (when you recruit him outside your garrison, he's actually ''wearing'' the cage in question), and [[ObfuscatingStupidity possibly being more intelligent than he sounds]]. He's implied to have some relation to the aforementioned, Dagg'um Ty'gor.


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* ''VideoGame/HearthstoneHeroesOfWarcraft'' features Dagg'um Ty'gor the Ogre ninja, still as visible as ever and with a 50% chance to attack the wrong target.
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