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12th May '16 9:05:40 AM Lego3400
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** Not that that stops Saber from showing up Fate: Grand Order as a Lancer and Rider, which both make sense thematically, but both are Saber ALTER. And the latter is her acting as Santa!

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** Not that that stops Saber from showing up Fate: Grand Order as a Lancer and Rider, which both make sense thematically, but both are Saber ALTER. And the latter is her acting as Santa!Santa! Also as an Assassin under the name Mysterious Heroine X/Z where she is dedicated to wiping out all the Saber look-alikes.
12th May '16 8:58:09 AM Lego3400
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**Not that that stops Saber from showing up Fate: Grand Order as a Lancer and Rider, which both make sense thematically, but both are Saber ALTER. And the latter is her acting as Santa!
12th May '16 8:49:35 AM Lego3400
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** There may not be any half-orc paladins in this series -- but in the Enhanced Edition re-release, there ''is'' a half-orc ''blackguard'', Dorn Il-Khan, in an edition of the game where the [[BlackKnight blackguard]] was implemented as a class kit (basically, a variant on the vanilla class) of the paladin.

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** There may not be any half-orc paladins in this series -- but in the Enhanced Edition re-release, there ''is'' a half-orc ''blackguard'', Dorn Il-Khan, in an edition of the game where the [[BlackKnight blackguard]] was implemented as a class kit (basically, a variant on the vanilla class) of the paladin. And No, this doesn't allow the PLAYER to select this combo. He's such a good example even the game refuses to let you copy it.
26th Apr '16 12:28:43 PM Chabal2
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* ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'' has Ogre Maneaters, ogres who've survived mercenary service in various armies around the world and kept the dress. Thus you can have a former Imperial soldier, a pirate captain (with a Gnoblar as the parrot) and a ninja. Yes, an ogre ninja.



* The ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' RTS series has Ogre Magi, who while inferior to the dedicated spellcasters, the Magi and the Death Knight, are capable of the same supporting spellcaster role as the Paladin, while also being an equal in combat.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' RTS series ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} II'' has Ogre Magi, who while inferior to the dedicated spellcasters, the spellcasters (the Magi and the Death Knight, Knight) are capable of the same supporting spellcaster role as the Paladin, while also being an equal in combat.



* ''VideoGame/NetHack'' allows you to play as an orc wizard, apparently because the race is a bit of a {{Scrappy}} among players due to its poor starting equipment. Dwarves in ''[=NetHack=]'' will always fall in this trope. A proper dwarvish role like miner or blacksmith doesn't exist. The only roles dwarves can play are Archeologist, Caveman and Valkyrie. None of theese is very dwarvish. Other role/race combinations like elven Ranger or orcish Rogue are more appropriate.

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* ''VideoGame/NetHack'' allows you to play as an orc wizard, apparently because the race is a bit of a {{Scrappy}} among players due to its poor starting equipment. Dwarves in ''[=NetHack=]'' will always fall in this trope. A proper dwarvish role like miner or blacksmith doesn't exist. The only roles dwarves can play are Archeologist, Caveman and Valkyrie. None of theese these is very dwarvish. Other role/race combinations like elven Ranger or orcish Rogue are more appropriate.


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* ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVI'' allows every party member to take ranks in every vocation, in any order they choose, and more importantly lets them keep all the spells they learned in that vocation. While it's funny enough to imagine the hulking Carver in mage robes (or healing someone) or the diminutive Nevan as a gladiator, the combat potential is awe-inspiring, allowing for teams of GlassCannon that can revive each other at will, or StoneWalls that take forever to bring to low health only to fully heal themselves in one go...
17th Apr '16 12:39:34 AM SSJMagus
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* There are a few Hutt [[WarriorMonk Jedi]] in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse, which runs rather counter to their reputation as sleazy gangster slugs.

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* There are a few Hutt [[WarriorMonk Jedi]] in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse, which runs rather counter to their reputation as sleazy gangster slugs. At least one of those Hutt Jedi fell to TheDarkSide, though. There was also a Hutt Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic...and while "politician" might not seem such an out-of-place occupation for a sleazy gangster slug, Chancellor Blotus was known for being noble and utterly incorruptible, and one of the Republic's finest leaders in its 25,000 year history.
13th Apr '16 7:28:23 PM kazokuhouou
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* In [[http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=060313 one strip]] of ''Webcomic/AwkwardZombie'', Katie-as-[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]] gets a kick out of reclassing every unit who could possibly be a [[ChurchMilitant War Cleric]] into one, including [[SquishyWizard Miriel]], who has no physical prowess and can't even lift [[AnAxeToGrind the axe]] she's been given as her new weapon.

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* In [[http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=060313 one strip]] of ''Webcomic/AwkwardZombie'', Katie-as-[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]] gets a kick out of reclassing every unit who could possibly be a [[ChurchMilitant War Cleric]] into one, including [[SquishyWizard Miriel]], who has no physical prowess and can't even lift [[AnAxeToGrind the axe]] she's been given as her new weapon. Also featured: mage!Virion, (no magic prowess), and Wyvern Rider!Nowi (her ''also'' being a dragon makes her extra weak to wind attacks)
21st Mar '16 4:21:24 AM StFan
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* ''Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt'' started as this. Oh, drow are well-suited to fast, stealthy fighting, but when Drizzt was created, rangers in DungeonsAndDragons ''had'' to be good aligned... and up till then you were as likely to find a good demon as a good drow.

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* ''Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt'' started as this. Oh, drow are well-suited to fast, stealthy fighting, but when Drizzt was created, rangers in DungeonsAndDragons ''had'' ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' '''had''' to be good aligned...good-aligned... and up till then you were as likely to find a good demon as a good drow.



* The ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' games, being based on 2nd edition TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons, averts this as explained above. The player's race restricts what class they can choose (gnomes can only be illusionists if they practice magic, only humans can be ThePaladin, etc).

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* The ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' games, being based on 2nd edition TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons, ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', averts this as explained above. The player's race restricts what class they can choose (gnomes can only be illusionists if they practice magic, only humans can be ThePaladin, etc).



* Played with by the race/class combinations in ''WebOriginal/CriticalRole'', which seem a little odd for 5th Edition D&D. Most notably, Keyleth and Scanlan. Keyleth is a half-elf druid; half-elves get a +2 to Charisma, but druids cast with Wisdom, and Keyleth's total Charisma modifier is actually ''negative'' for most of the show. Scanlan the gnome bard also counts for the same reason, as gnomes get an Intelligence boost, but bards cast with Charisma. However, the group was originally playing in Pathfinder, where those race/class combos make a lot more sense (half-elves get no bonuses or penalties to their stats, and gnomes get a Charisma boost). They only seem like odd choices if you don't know that the group played in Pathfinder first.

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* Played with by the race/class combinations in ''WebOriginal/CriticalRole'', which seem a little odd for 5th Edition D&D. Most notably, Keyleth and Scanlan. Keyleth is a half-elf druid; half-elves get a +2 to Charisma, but druids cast with Wisdom, and Keyleth's total Charisma modifier is actually ''negative'' for most of the show. Scanlan the gnome bard also counts for the same reason, as gnomes get an Intelligence boost, but bards cast with Charisma. However, the group was originally playing in Pathfinder, ''Pathfinder'', where those race/class combos make a lot more sense (half-elves get no bonuses or penalties to their stats, and gnomes get a Charisma boost). They only seem like odd choices if you don't know that the group played in Pathfinder ''Pathfinder'' first.



** Fluttershy, whose special talent is being a FriendToAllLivingThings. This is very unusual because Fluttershy is a Pegasus pony. Earth ponies have a stronger connection with nature than unicorn ponies (who are spellcasters) or pegasus ponies (who can fly and control the weather) so it would make more sense for a pony talented with handling animals to be an earth pony.

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** Fluttershy, whose special talent is being a FriendToAllLivingThings. This is very unusual because Fluttershy is a Pegasus pegasus pony. Earth ponies have a stronger connection with nature than unicorn ponies (who are spellcasters) or pegasus ponies (who can fly and control the weather) so it would make more sense for a pony talented with handling animals to be an earth pony.
18th Mar '16 10:02:19 AM MrUnderhill
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* In [[http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=060313 one strip]] of ''Webcomic/AwkwardZombie'', Katie-as-[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]] gets a kick out of reclassing every unit who could possibly be a [[ChurchMilitant War Cleric]] into one, including [[SquishyWizard Miriel]], who has no physical prowess and can't even lift [[AnAxeToGrind the axe]] she's been given as her new weapon.
11th Feb '16 12:07:46 PM CountDorku
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* The ''TabletopGame/LegendSystem'' has a bit of this, although you can avert it with careful use of track switching and the right feats. For example, elves (+2 to Dexterity and one mental stat of your choice, -2 to Constitution) make extremely poor monks and barbarians, because both of those classes depend on Constitution for their Key Defensive Modifier, and barbarians also need it to determine rage duration. However, one track from another class can be taken for free, and there are two Rogue defensive tracks that let you use either Charisma or Wisdom for your KDM (unless Wisdom was already your Key ''Offensive'' Modifier - you aren't allowed to double-dip), and there's a feat (which anyone can take as their racial bonus feat) which requires multiclassing and lets you pick ''any'' of your tracks and revise every stat mentioned in it to a different one. Meaning that an elf barbarian can put their free-floating mental bonus into Wisdom or Charisma, swap in either "I Am Ten Ninjas" for the former or "Fortune's Friend" for the latter, and take Multiclass Flexibility for their Path of Rage so that rage duration is based on Dexterity rather than Constitution. And so on.
7th Jan '16 7:31:55 AM Gitman
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* ''Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt'' started as this. Oh, drow are well-suited to fast, stealthy fighting, but when Drizzt was created, rangers ''had'' to be good... and up till then you were as likely to find a good demon as a good drow.

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* ''Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt'' started as this. Oh, drow are well-suited to fast, stealthy fighting, but when Drizzt was created, rangers in DungeonsAndDragons ''had'' to be good...good aligned... and up till then you were as likely to find a good demon as a good drow.
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