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21st May '16 2:23:14 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ThatOneLevel and ThatOneBoss refers to levels and bosses that are significantly harder than the ones before them, not just any hard level or boss. Otherwise, NintendoHard games may as well have every single level and boss listed as examples of either trope. They also do not mean [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck Dethroning Level or Boss of Suck]]; there ''are'' players who genuinely enjoy challenging parts of video games.

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* ThatOneLevel and ThatOneBoss refers to levels and bosses that are significantly harder than the ones before them, not just any hard level or boss. Otherwise, If every boss is brutally difficult, you're probably looking at NintendoHard games may as well have every single level and boss listed as examples of either trope.or EasyLevelsHardBosses. They also do not mean [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck Dethroning Level or Boss of Suck]]; there ''are'' players who genuinely enjoy challenging parts of video games.
20th May '16 7:40:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* KillEmAll keeps getting mistaken for characters literally "killing them all" because of the phrase's catchiness. It's specifically an EndingTrope where virtually every major character in the story ends up dying. The "Kill 'Em All" is on the part of the ''writers'', not (necessarily) the characters. The in-story tactic of killing everyone is covered by tropes like LeaveNoSurvivors, ThePurge, FinalSolution, and MurderIsTheBestSolution.

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* KillEmAll keeps getting mistaken for characters literally "killing them all" because of the phrase's catchiness.it's also used as a StockPhrase. It's specifically an EndingTrope where virtually every major character in the story ends up dying. The "Kill 'Em All" is on the part of the ''writers'', not (necessarily) the characters. The in-story tactic of killing everyone is covered by tropes like LeaveNoSurvivors, ThePurge, FinalSolution, and MurderIsTheBestSolution.
5th May '16 1:37:59 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* {{Badass}} is defined as "a character who pulls off outlandish, gutsy stunts that would (almost) never work in real life". Now it apparently means "a character that I, the editor, like".
* BadassDecay refers to a character who was one incredibly {{Badass}} but is now largely ineffective and perhaps even comical. It's gotten to where if they lose one fight, they've gone through decay.
* BadassNormal describes a character without superpowers who manages to be {{Badass}} in a setting where other characters '''do''' have superpowers, particularly against said superpowers. The second, crucial aspect is frequently ignored. And occasionally they forget the first, believing human automatically counts as being "Normal," even if said humans can fly under their own power and shoot energy beams out of their hands. And even that gets ignored, with aliens with not super-impressive superpowers getting labelled as such.

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* {{Badass}} is defined as "a character who pulls off outlandish, gutsy stunts that would (almost) never work in real life". Now it apparently means "a character that I, the editor, like".
like". This is why the page was turned into a list of its many possible definitions and its wicks purged.
* BadassDecay refers to a character who was one incredibly {{Badass}} badass but is now largely ineffective and perhaps even comical. It's gotten to where if they lose one fight, they've gone through decay.
* BadassNormal describes a character without superpowers who manages to be {{Badass}} badass in a setting where other characters '''do''' have superpowers, particularly against said superpowers. The second, crucial aspect is frequently ignored. And occasionally they forget the first, believing human automatically counts as being "Normal," even if said humans can fly under their own power and shoot energy beams out of their hands. And even that gets ignored, with aliens with not super-impressive superpowers getting labelled as such.



* {{Mooks}} are evil henchmen that have little to no backstory and exist only so that TheHero can kill hordes of them and look like a {{badass}} while doing it. It is not just a generic term for "minion".

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* {{Mooks}} are evil henchmen that have little to no backstory and exist only so that TheHero can kill hordes of them and look like a {{badass}} badass while doing it. It is not just a generic term for "minion".



* RatedMForManly refers to, as it says on the Laconic entry, "Any work or character with an emphasis on masculinity--made by men for men--often involving [[{{Badass}} badassery]] taken UpToEleven." Many examples, however, [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample have little to no explanation for why they are there,]] and more often than not they translate to "I found this work to be the epitome of badassery and awesomeness" with little context to back it up.

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* RatedMForManly refers to, as it says on the Laconic entry, "Any work or character with an emphasis on masculinity--made by men for men--often involving [[{{Badass}} badassery]] badassery taken UpToEleven." Many examples, however, [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample have little to no explanation for why they are there,]] and more often than not they translate to "I found this work to be the epitome of badassery and awesomeness" with little context to back it up.
5th May '16 1:25:58 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** In that regard, people think XanatosRoulette means a XanatosGambit that's even ''more'' clever. They aren't too far off, but they forget that the defining characteristic is that it's so much more clever that it simply breaks people's suspension of disbelief, often because ThePlan relies too heavily on luck, hence it being a roulette. This is why the name was changed to ''GambitRoulette''; to break the association. Another problem was confusion with EvilPlan because of poor word choice at the article's start. It has since been corrected.

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** In that regard, people think XanatosRoulette means a XanatosGambit that's even ''more'' clever. They aren't too far off, but they forget that the defining characteristic is that it's so much more clever that it simply breaks people's suspension of disbelief, often because ThePlan relies too heavily on luck, hence it being a roulette. This is why the name was changed to ''GambitRoulette''; to break the association. Another problem was confusion with EvilPlan because of poor word choice at the article's start. It has since been corrected.
2nd May '16 11:13:20 AM GastonRabbit
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* HypeBacklash is supposed to be about shows who get such a heightened expectation that viewers will leave disappointed. Tropers have translated this to Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[ItsPopularNowItSucks that happen to be popular]].

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* HypeBacklash is supposed to be about shows who that get such a heightened expectation expectations that viewers will leave disappointed. Tropers have translated this to Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[ItsPopularNowItSucks that happen to be popular]].



* IAmTheNoun is when a character refers himself as the sole representative of a group or abstract concept ("I am the Night", "I am the Law", "I am the Nation", etc) not when a character refers his title or function ("I am the King","I am the guardian", etc).

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* IAmTheNoun is when a character refers himself as the sole representative of a group or abstract concept ("I am the Night", "I am the Law", "I am the Nation", etc) not when a character refers his title or function ("I am the King","I King", "I am the guardian", etc).
2nd May '16 11:09:44 AM GastonRabbit
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* HypeBacklash is supposed to be about shows who get such a heightened expectation that viewers will leave disappointed. Tropers have translated this to Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[ItsPopularNowItSucks that happen to be popular]].



* For something to be [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible So Bad It's Horrible]], it's not enough to be a [[BoxOfficeBomb commercial failure]]-there are many commercially unsuccessful works that have been [[AcclaimedFlop hits with critics]]-it must fail both commercially and critically.

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* For something to be [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible So Bad It's Horrible]], it's not enough to be a [[BoxOfficeBomb commercial failure]]-there failure]]--there are many commercially unsuccessful works that have been [[AcclaimedFlop hits with critics]]-it critics]]--it must fail both commercially and critically.



** Speaking of which, HypeBacklash is supposed to be about shows who get such a heightened expectation that viewers will leave disappointed. Tropers have translated this to Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike [[ItsPopularNowItSucks that happen to be popular]].
*** Note: just stating a character's name, a plot point, or a particular defining trait of the show/book/movie etc. as the reason for generalized praise or public opinion that you think is undeserved is NOT a justification.
** Doesn't help that many tropers assume it means "It's not very good, which makes it bad".



* TooCoolToLive refers to a character who's so skilled or powerful (IE, "cool") that they're killed off because otherwise they'd interfere with the dynamics of the conflict. It sometimes gets reduced to "a character I liked who died."
** Often the big bad, the dragon or similarly plot-important villain who dies is given as example of this trope. This is incorrect: the conflict with the big bad does not overshadow the plot, it IS the plot. Other examples include characters who were ganked during the final climactic battle or who didn't die at all. Even without these cases, most examples refer to cool characters whose death is integral to the plot, rather than a means to give other characters a chance to shine.

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* TooCoolToLive refers to a character who's so skilled or powerful (IE, (in other words, "cool") that they're killed off because otherwise they'd interfere with the dynamics of the conflict. It sometimes gets reduced to "a character I liked who died."
** Often the big bad, the dragon dragon, or similarly plot-important villain who dies is given as example of this trope. This is incorrect: incorrect; the conflict with the big bad does not overshadow the plot, it IS the plot. Other examples include characters who were ganked during the final climactic battle or who didn't die at all. Even without these cases, most examples refer to cool characters whose death is integral to the plot, rather than a means to give other characters a chance to shine.



* UnfortunateImplications has a much more narrow definition than its name implies. [[note]]So the name of the trope itself makes for an unfortunate implication, albeit not one that would qualify for the trope.[[/note]] A lot of tropers pretty much use it for "something that one person could maybe possibly be offended by".
** This one got so bad that the UnfortunateImplications index had to be cut because people were putting tropes such as "CruellaToAnimals" (supposedly because it offends people who eat meat) on there.
** Also, tropers quite often pothole to Unfortunate Implications for examples of FridgeHorror. In a similar vein, the pages have tons of examples of ThatCameOutWrong listed on them, without any real implication anyone could confuse it for Unfortunate Implications. Possibly looking to sweep the inaccuracy olympics, these examples will quite often have something in them that ''outright admits'' that this example was That Came Out Wrong, thus effectively admitting that the edit has no reason to be there and that the reader's time was just wasted in reading it.
* UnsoundEffect is supposed to mean a WrittenSoundEffect that's clearly not onomatopaeia, however some people have started using it to describe any unusual sounding legitimate WrittenSoundEffect.

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* UnfortunateImplications has a much more narrow definition than its name implies. [[note]]So the name of the trope itself makes for an unfortunate implication, albeit not one that would qualify for the trope.[[/note]] A lot of tropers pretty much use it for "something that one person could maybe possibly be offended by".
** This one
by" and it got so bad that the UnfortunateImplications index had to be cut because people were putting tropes such as "CruellaToAnimals" (supposedly because it offends people who eat meat) on there.
** Also, tropers Tropers quite often pothole to Unfortunate Implications for examples of FridgeHorror. In a similar vein, the pages have tons of examples of ThatCameOutWrong listed on them, without any real implication anyone could confuse it for Unfortunate Implications. Possibly looking to sweep the inaccuracy olympics, these examples will quite often have something in them that ''outright admits'' that this example was That Came Out Wrong, thus effectively admitting that the edit has no reason to be there and that the reader's time was just wasted in reading it.
* UnsoundEffect is supposed to mean a WrittenSoundEffect that's clearly not onomatopaeia, onomatopoeia, however some people have started using it to describe any unusual sounding legitimate WrittenSoundEffect.



** In that regard, people think XanatosRoulette means a XanatosGambit that's even ''more'' clever. They aren't too far off, but they forget that the defining characteristic is that it's so much more clever that it simply breaks people's suspension of disbelief, often because ThePlan relies too heavily on luck, hence it being a roulette. This is why the name was changed to ''GambitRoulette''; to break the association.
** Another problem was confusion with EvilPlan because of poor word choice at the article's start. It has since been corrected.

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** In that regard, people think XanatosRoulette means a XanatosGambit that's even ''more'' clever. They aren't too far off, but they forget that the defining characteristic is that it's so much more clever that it simply breaks people's suspension of disbelief, often because ThePlan relies too heavily on luck, hence it being a roulette. This is why the name was changed to ''GambitRoulette''; to break the association. \n** Another problem was confusion with EvilPlan because of poor word choice at the article's start. It has since been corrected.
2nd May '16 10:52:57 AM GastonRabbit
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* {{Disneyesque}} refers to a work that adopts an art style used in Creator/{{Disney}}'s animated works (usually for homage or parody purposes), similar to how {{Animesque}} is about a non-Japanese work adopting an anime/manga style. It is not about something that [[FollowTheLeader Follows the Leader]] to the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon (i.e. ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' or ''WesternAnimation/{{Thumbelina}}''), borrows Disney's fairy dust trademark or uses DisneyCreaturesOfTheFarce.

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* {{Disneyesque}} refers to a work that adopts an art style used in Creator/{{Disney}}'s animated works (usually for homage or parody purposes), similar to how {{Animesque}} is about a non-Japanese work adopting an anime/manga style. It is not about something that [[FollowTheLeader Follows the Leader]] to the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon (i.e. (e.g., ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' or ''WesternAnimation/{{Thumbelina}}''), borrows Disney's fairy dust trademark or uses DisneyCreaturesOfTheFarce.



* SarcasmMode is meant to be about signals that indicate sarcasm (i. e., "sarcasm mode on/sarcasm mode off"), but it's used to refer to any sarcasm. It's also used to pothole sarcasm itself, which is NOT the purpose of the trope.

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* SarcasmMode is meant to be about signals that indicate sarcasm (i. e.(e.g., "sarcasm mode on/sarcasm on"/"sarcasm mode off"), but it's used to refer to any sarcasm. It's also used to pothole sarcasm itself, which is NOT the purpose of the trope.



* StylisticSuck is officially meant to be about how a ShowWithinAShow will be intentionally poorly-made compared to the show it's contained within, but it's often used to refer to scenes that are meant to be happening in the main story, that are just done in an intentionally sloppy manner. That's an ArtShift.

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* StylisticSuck is officially meant to be about how a ShowWithinAShow will be intentionally poorly-made poorly made compared to the show it's contained within, but it's often used to refer to scenes that are meant to be happening in the main story, that are just done in an intentionally sloppy manner. That's an ArtShift.
18th Apr '16 12:26:24 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* A SmugSnake is not just an incompetent wannabe-{{Chessmaster}}. He's a villain ''designed'' to be unsympathetic due to arrogance - he might have a few traits of TheChessmaster in him, but will always be closer to CompleteMonster than MagnificentBastard.

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* A SmugSnake is not just an incompetent wannabe-{{Chessmaster}}. He's a villain ''designed'' to be unsympathetic due to arrogance - he might have a few traits of TheChessmaster in him, but will always be closer to CompleteMonster HateSink than MagnificentBastard.
18th Apr '16 12:04:42 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* FranchiseOriginalSin is often used by those defending a work by claiming its flaws and criticisms also existed in prior works. This trope requires there be explanation as to why said flaws were ignored or more tolerable in said prior works.
15th Apr '16 12:54:50 PM Kayube
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** In the case of UnsettlingGenderReveal, many tropers assume that it's specifically about seemingly male characters turning out to be female. The confusion is likely due to the fact that the trope used to be called Dropped A Bridget On Him. Thus, in addition to ignoring the trope's gender neutrality they also ignore the romantic element (a character is in love with another until they find out the other character isn't the gender they thought).

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** In the case of UnsettlingGenderReveal, many tropers assume that it's specifically about seemingly male female characters turning out to be female.male. The confusion is likely due to the fact that the trope used to be called Dropped A Bridget On Him. Thus, in addition to ignoring the trope's gender neutrality they also ignore the romantic element (a character is in love with another until they find out the other character isn't the gender they thought).
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