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2nd Dec '16 7:13:49 AM Knightofbalance
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*** ''Tenegn Toppa Gurren Lagann's'' status as ''Neon Genesis Evangelion's'' SpiritualAntithesis is only half right. While ''Gurren Lagann's'' outward tone is different than it's predecessor, they share quite a few themes like TheAntiNihilist, HumansAreBastards mixed with HumansAreSpecial, [[GreyandBlackMorality grey]] [[GreyAndGrayMorality moralities]] [[{{Deconstruction}} the deconstruction of common mecha tropes]], ClassicalAntiHero and depression. In fact, the entire second half of the series can be seen as ''Gurren Lagann'' coming to terms with it's ''Evangelion'' roots and accepting them.
29th Nov '16 8:31:42 PM Noah1
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*** And ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' has its own counterpart in ''Betterman'', a horror/drama show set in the same world.

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*** And ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' has its own counterpart in ''Betterman'', ''{{Betterman}}'', a horror/drama show set in the same world.



* Creator/WernerHerzog's ''Film/AguirreTheWrathOfGod'' is a cynical story starring Creator/KlausKinski, about white men heading [[RiverOfInsanity into the Amazon]] to civilize it and return rich and powerful, but end up dying pointlessly. 10 years later he made ''Film/{{Fitzcarraldo}}'' - a story starring Klaus Kinski, about white men heading [[RiverOfInsanity into the Amazon]] to civilize it and return rich and powerful, and actually learning respect for their own limitations and others.
* ''Film/BlackSwan'' manages to serve as ''both'' a SpiritualSequel and SpiritualAntithesis to ''Film/TheWrestler''. Creator/DarrenAronofsky described them as "two halves of the same film": both involve artist protagonists whose careers wreak havoc in their personal life but ''The Wrestler'' revolves around the beauty found in the "lower art" of wrestling while ''Black Swan'' revolves around the horror found in the "higher art" of ballet. They were originally going to be the one movie - with a wrestler falling in love with a ballerina. Aronofsky realised that might be a bit much and split them into two.

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* Creator/WernerHerzog's ''Film/AguirreTheWrathOfGod'' is a cynical story starring Creator/KlausKinski, about white men heading [[RiverOfInsanity into the Amazon]] to civilize it and return rich and powerful, but end up dying pointlessly. 10 years later he made ''Film/{{Fitzcarraldo}}'' - -- a story starring Klaus Kinski, about white men heading [[RiverOfInsanity into the Amazon]] to civilize it and return rich and powerful, and actually learning respect for their own limitations and others.
* ''Film/BlackSwan'' manages to serve as ''both'' a SpiritualSequel and SpiritualAntithesis to ''Film/TheWrestler''. Creator/DarrenAronofsky described them as "two halves of the same film": both involve artist protagonists whose careers wreak havoc in their personal life but ''The Wrestler'' revolves around the beauty found in the "lower art" of wrestling while ''Black Swan'' revolves around the horror found in the "higher art" of ballet. They were originally going to be the one movie - -- with a wrestler falling in love with a ballerina. Aronofsky realised that might be a bit much and split them into two.



* Frances Hodgson Burnett wrote two books that became these to each other, featuring contrasting protagonists and situations; ''Literature/TheSecretGarden'''s Mary Lennox and ''Literature/ALittlePrincess'''s Sara Crewe. Both girls end up orphaned and have to move from India to England. Both spend their story angsting over a missing parent - Mary for her mother and Sara for her father. Sara grew up with a father who doted on her and is kind and gracious to everyone, with a quality that compels all to attend to her. Mary grew up with nothing but neglect and indifference from her parents, and ends up as a dysfunctional sour girl who no one likes. Sara's optimism is put to the test as she struggles without someone to care for her, while Mary's cynicism is tested by learning to let others care for her. Both stories invert the depictions and contrast of India and England. Sara's India was a magical place, and she uses her own imagination and belief in 'the magic' to cope with her dreary life in England. Mary's India was uncomfortably hot and lonely, and in her story she discovers magic and beauty in England.

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* Frances Hodgson Burnett wrote two books that became these to each other, featuring contrasting protagonists and situations; ''Literature/TheSecretGarden'''s Mary Lennox and ''Literature/ALittlePrincess'''s Sara Crewe. Both girls end up orphaned and have to move from India to England. Both spend their story angsting over a missing parent - -- Mary for her mother and Sara for her father. Sara grew up with a father who doted on her and is kind and gracious to everyone, with a quality that compels all to attend to her. Mary grew up with nothing but neglect and indifference from her parents, and ends up as a dysfunctional sour girl who no one likes. Sara's optimism is put to the test as she struggles without someone to care for her, while Mary's cynicism is tested by learning to let others care for her. Both stories invert the depictions and contrast of India and England. Sara's India was a magical place, and she uses her own imagination and belief in 'the magic' to cope with her dreary life in England. Mary's India was uncomfortably hot and lonely, and in her story she discovers magic and beauty in England.



* Sean O'Neal of TheAVClub [[http://www.avclub.com/article/1996-fox-news-and-daily-show-made-politics-spectat-240530 discussed this]] with regards to the Creator/FoxNewsChannel and ''Series/TheDailyShow'', a pair of TV news 'alternatives' that were both launched in 1996. Fox News saw itself as a corrective to perceived bias in the American news media, its audience was dominated by the baby boomers, and its commentary ran on righteous indignation and moral outrage. ''Daily Show'' host Creator/JonStewart, meanwhile, always insisted that he was a comedian rather than a journalist, but regardless, the show came to be seen, especially by the millennials and Gen-Xers who made up most of its audience, as a corrective to the "gut feelings over facts" nature of modern journalism that, during the show's height in the '00s, its viewers saw exemplified in Fox News. Furthermore, while Fox News was a decidedly conservative-leaning outlet, ''The Daily Show'' was just as stridently liberal-leaning.\\

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* Sean O'Neal of TheAVClub the Website/AVClub [[http://www.avclub.com/article/1996-fox-news-and-daily-show-made-politics-spectat-240530 discussed this]] with regards to the Creator/FoxNewsChannel and ''Series/TheDailyShow'', a pair of TV news 'alternatives' that were both launched in 1996. Fox News saw itself as a corrective to perceived bias in the American news media, its audience was dominated by the baby boomers, and its commentary ran on righteous indignation and moral outrage. ''Daily Show'' host Creator/JonStewart, meanwhile, always insisted that he was a comedian rather than a journalist, but regardless, the show came to be seen, especially by the millennials and Gen-Xers who made up most of its audience, as a corrective to the "gut feelings over facts" nature of modern journalism that, during the show's height in the '00s, its viewers saw exemplified in Fox News. Furthermore, while Fox News was a decidedly conservative-leaning outlet, ''The Daily Show'' was just as stridently liberal-leaning.\\



* Pretty common with a NewSoundAlbum. For instance, {{Music/U2}} described ''Music/AchtungBaby'' as "Chopping down ''Music/TheJoshuaTree''" - instead of straight rock with political and social themes, rock with electronica and dance scoring introspective lyrics.

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* Pretty common with a NewSoundAlbum. For instance, {{Music/U2}} described ''Music/AchtungBaby'' as "Chopping down ''Music/TheJoshuaTree''" - -- instead of straight rock with political and social themes, rock with electronica and dance scoring introspective lyrics.



* ''ComicStrip/TheBoondocks'' stands in stark contrast to ''ComicStrip/LittleOrphanAnnie''. ''Little Orphan Annie'' is an adventure series with long and serious {{story arc}}s starring a white PluckyGirl adopted by a kindly rich man, and is known for its conservative leanings and American pride. ''The Boondocks'', meanwhile, is a joke-per-day series starring a cynical black boy [[RaisedByGrandparents living under his grumpy grandfather]] that rarely leaves its white {{suburbia}} setting, while its politics are radically left-wing and have drawn a lot of controversy for their satirical take on American politics and culture.
** Its AnimatedAdaptation is also one to African American {{sitcom}}s like ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' and ''Series/FamilyMatters''. The Freeman family are {{dysfunctional|family}} to the point that they're one big argument away from killing each other, while the peaceful {{suburbia}} they move to is more chaotic than their old inner-city neighborhood, to the point that they've considered moving out. The show was also relentlessly cynical about the vision of "black respectability" promoted by such shows, with Uncle Ruckus and his {{Boomerang Bigot}}ry in particular serving as a grotesque parody of Creator/BillCosby (who himself shows up on the show, portrayed as a bitter, [[TheUnintelligible unintelligible]] {{Moral Guardian|s}}).

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* ''ComicStrip/TheBoondocks'' stands in stark contrast to ''ComicStrip/LittleOrphanAnnie''. ''Little Orphan Annie'' is an a [[StoryArc serialized]] adventure series with long and serious {{story arc}}s starring a white PluckyGirl adopted by a kindly rich man, UnclePennybags, and is known for its conservative leanings and American pride. ''The Boondocks'', meanwhile, is a joke-per-day series starring a cynical black boy [[RaisedByGrandparents living under his grumpy grandfather]] that rarely leaves its white {{suburbia}} setting, while its politics are radically left-wing and have drawn a lot of controversy for their satirical take on American politics and culture.
** Its AnimatedAdaptation is also one to African American {{sitcom}}s {{Black Sitcom}}s like ''Series/TheCosbyShow'' and ''Series/FamilyMatters''. The Freeman family are {{dysfunctional|family}} to the point that they're one big argument away from killing each other, while the peaceful {{suburbia}} they move to is more chaotic than their old inner-city neighborhood, to the point that they've considered moving out. The show was also relentlessly cynical about the vision of "black respectability" promoted by such shows, with Uncle Ruckus and his {{Boomerang Bigot}}ry in particular serving as a grotesque parody of Creator/BillCosby (who himself shows up on the show, portrayed as a bitter, [[TheUnintelligible unintelligible]] {{Moral Guardian|s}}).



* Both ''WebVideo/RebelTaxi'' and ''WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter'' are animation-focused {{Video Review Show}}s whose hosts prefer not to be seen, but that's where the similarities end. ''RebelTaxi'' has an animated FramingDevice, and its host is very jokey and perverted. ''TheMysteriousMrEnter'' relies entirely on clips of the reviewing subject, and its host is {{Asexual}} and focuses a lot more on critique.

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* Both ''WebVideo/RebelTaxi'' and ''WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter'' are animation-focused {{Video Review Show}}s whose hosts prefer not to be seen, but that's where the similarities end. ''RebelTaxi'' has The two are very much the TechnicianVsPerformer of animation reviewers: Pan Pizza is easygoing, jokey, and perverted, and while he does know a well-written work from a poorly-written one, he cares more about visual style in his reviews, to the point of having an animated FramingDevice, and its host is very jokey and perverted. ''TheMysteriousMrEnter'' relies entirely on clips of FramingDevice. On the reviewing subject, and its host other hand, Mr. Enter is an {{Asexual}} ByronicHero who is very brusque in his method of critique, and focuses a lot takes decent storytelling far more on critique.seriously, being far less forgiving to shows that fail in that regard.



* ''Beavis and Butt-Head''[='=]s spinoff ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' also did this with its source material. Both were animated sitcoms about Generation X teens who didn't fit in with their peers, but while the titular protagonists of ''B&B'' were a pair of meatheaded, {{delinquent|s}} teenage boys for whom ignorance was bliss, the titular protagonist of ''Daria'' was a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]], [[InsufferableGenius brainiac]] teenage girl whose intellect [[TheSnarkKnight made her miserable and antisocial]]. While Beavis and Butt-head were frequently the butt of the joke on their show, with a heavy dollop of ThisLoserIsYou (Judge wasn't subtle in his mockery of Creator/{{MTV}}'s target audience), Daria was often given a more sympathetic and humanizing portrayal, serving as an AudienceSurrogate with most of the humor coming from her commentary on the stupidity and madness of the [[CrapsackWorld sick, sad world]] around her, while she and her friends got real CharacterDevelopment over the course of the show's run versus the NegativeContinuity of the gag-a-day ''B&B''. Daria was originally created as a {{foil}} to Beavis and Butt-Head before she got her own show, and while she tolerated the pair, it was frequently made clear that she held them in very low regard.
* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' is this to ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated''. ''Animated'' draws more asthetically from [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers the G1 cartoon]], and is a bright {{Animesque}} GenreThrowback to {{Saturday Morning Cartoon}}s. ''Prime'' draws more astheticaly from the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries, and is lot more grim and serious. ''Animated'' deconstructs the series background by showing the GrayAndGrayMorality that started the Autobot / Decepticon war, while ''Prime'' deconstructs the characters themselves to show what made them who they are. ''Animated'' notably echews the more "regilious" aspects of the Franchise/{{Transformers}} mythos (Primus, Unicron, the Thirteen) so as not to clutter the show, whereas ''Prime'' deeply explores these concepts as it goes on.

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* ** ''Beavis and Butt-Head''[='=]s spinoff ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' also did this with its source material. Both were animated sitcoms about Generation X teens who didn't fit in with their peers, but while the titular protagonists of ''B&B'' were a pair of meatheaded, {{delinquent|s}} teenage boys for whom ignorance was bliss, the titular protagonist of ''Daria'' was a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]], [[InsufferableGenius brainiac]] teenage girl whose intellect [[TheSnarkKnight made her miserable and antisocial]]. While Beavis and Butt-head were frequently the butt of the joke on their show, with a heavy dollop of ThisLoserIsYou (Judge wasn't subtle in his mockery of Creator/{{MTV}}'s target audience), Daria was often given a more sympathetic and humanizing portrayal, serving as an AudienceSurrogate with most of the humor coming from her commentary on the stupidity and madness of the [[CrapsackWorld sick, sad world]] around her, while she and her friends got real CharacterDevelopment over the course of the show's run versus the NegativeContinuity of the gag-a-day ''B&B''. Daria was originally created as a {{foil}} to Beavis and Butt-Head before she got her own show, and while she tolerated the pair, it was frequently made clear that she held them in very low regard.
** Hank Hill gets his own antithesis in the form of [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad Stan Smith]]. On the surface, both are stubborn Conservative patriarchs who have [[JockDadNerdSon a strained relationship with their sons]]. The difference is that Hank is more subdued and realistic, and is almost always portrayed as the voice of reason. By contrast Stan is more exaggerated and stereotypical, and often ends up learning lessons on humility and open-mindedness.
* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' is this to ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated''. ''Animated'' draws more asthetically from [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers the G1 cartoon]], and is a bright {{Animesque}} GenreThrowback to {{Saturday Morning Cartoon}}s. ''Prime'' draws more astheticaly from the Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries, and is lot more grim and serious. ''Animated'' deconstructs the series background by showing the GrayAndGrayMorality that started the Autobot / Decepticon war, while ''Prime'' deconstructs the characters themselves to show what made them who they are. ''Animated'' notably echews the more "regilious" "religious" aspects of the Franchise/{{Transformers}} mythos (Primus, Unicron, the Thirteen) so as not to clutter the show, whereas ''Prime'' deeply explores these concepts as it goes on.
29th Nov '16 10:34:19 AM FredMSloniker
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and LaterInstallmentWeirdness can turn a work into [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis it's own antithesis]].

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and LaterInstallmentWeirdness can turn a work into [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis it's its own antithesis]].
28th Nov '16 2:09:02 PM Morgenthaler
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* The Avatar (Robin) from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' in comparison to the Tactician (Mark) from ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword]]''. Mark is a [[NonActionGuy Non-Action Person]] who merely serves as the 'connection' between you and the game. Robin is an actual {{Badass}} in combat, and a playable class complete with class promotion. Mark is TheFaceless with minimal canonical bonds with other characters. Robin is customizable by the player and can even form support bonds and get married with other characters. Mark has [[DemotedToExtra minimal importance to the overall plot]]. Robin is ''very heavily'' involved in it.

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* The Avatar (Robin) from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' in comparison to the Tactician (Mark) from ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword]]''. Mark is a [[NonActionGuy Non-Action Person]] who merely serves as the 'connection' between you and the game. Robin is an actual {{Badass}} badass in combat, and a playable class complete with class promotion. Mark is TheFaceless with minimal canonical bonds with other characters. Robin is customizable by the player and can even form support bonds and get married with other characters. Mark has [[DemotedToExtra minimal importance to the overall plot]]. Robin is ''very heavily'' involved in it.
27th Nov '16 11:54:03 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ''Beavis and Butt-Head''[='=]s spinoff ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' also did this with its source material. Both were animated sitcoms about Generation X teens who didn't fit in with their peers, but while the titular protagonists of ''B&B'' were a pair of meatheaded, {{delinquent|s}} teenage boys for whom ignorance was bliss, the titular protagonist of ''Daria'' was a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]], [[InsufferableGenius brainiac]] teenage girl whose intellect [[TheSnarkKnight made her miserable and antisocial]]. While Beavis and Butt-head were frequently the butt of the joke on their show, with a heavy dollop of ThisLoserIsYou (Judge wasn't subtle in his mockery of Creator/{{MTV}}'s target audience), Daria was often given a more sympathetic and human portrayal, with most of the humor coming from her commentary on the stupidity of those around her, while she and her friends got real CharacterDevelopment over the course of the show's run versus the NegativeContinuity of the gag-a-day ''B&B''. Daria was originally created as a {{foil}} to Beavis and Butt-Head before she got her own show, and while she tolerated the pair, it was frequently made clear that she held a fairly poor opinion of them.

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* ''Beavis and Butt-Head''[='=]s spinoff ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' also did this with its source material. Both were animated sitcoms about Generation X teens who didn't fit in with their peers, but while the titular protagonists of ''B&B'' were a pair of meatheaded, {{delinquent|s}} teenage boys for whom ignorance was bliss, the titular protagonist of ''Daria'' was a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]], [[InsufferableGenius brainiac]] teenage girl whose intellect [[TheSnarkKnight made her miserable and antisocial]]. While Beavis and Butt-head were frequently the butt of the joke on their show, with a heavy dollop of ThisLoserIsYou (Judge wasn't subtle in his mockery of Creator/{{MTV}}'s target audience), Daria was often given a more sympathetic and human humanizing portrayal, serving as an AudienceSurrogate with most of the humor coming from her commentary on the stupidity and madness of those the [[CrapsackWorld sick, sad world]] around her, while she and her friends got real CharacterDevelopment over the course of the show's run versus the NegativeContinuity of the gag-a-day ''B&B''. Daria was originally created as a {{foil}} to Beavis and Butt-Head before she got her own show, and while she tolerated the pair, it was frequently made clear that she held a fairly poor opinion of them.them in very low regard.
27th Nov '16 10:37:58 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ''Beavis and Butt-Head''[='=]s spinoff ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' also did this with its source material. Both were animated sitcoms about Generation X teenagers who didn't fit in with their peers, but while the titular protagonists of ''B&B'' were a pair of meatheaded boys for whom ignorance was bliss, the titular protagonist of ''Daria'' was a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]], female InsufferableGenius whose intellect [[TheSnarkKnight made her miserable]]. Daria was originally created as a {{foil}} to Beavis and Butt-Head before she got her own show, and while she tolerated the pair, it was frequently made clear that she held a fairly poor opinion of them.

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* ''Beavis and Butt-Head''[='=]s spinoff ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' also did this with its source material. Both were animated sitcoms about Generation X teenagers teens who didn't fit in with their peers, but while the titular protagonists of ''B&B'' were a pair of meatheaded meatheaded, {{delinquent|s}} teenage boys for whom ignorance was bliss, the titular protagonist of ''Daria'' was a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]], female InsufferableGenius [[InsufferableGenius brainiac]] teenage girl whose intellect [[TheSnarkKnight made her miserable]].miserable and antisocial]]. While Beavis and Butt-head were frequently the butt of the joke on their show, with a heavy dollop of ThisLoserIsYou (Judge wasn't subtle in his mockery of Creator/{{MTV}}'s target audience), Daria was often given a more sympathetic and human portrayal, with most of the humor coming from her commentary on the stupidity of those around her, while she and her friends got real CharacterDevelopment over the course of the show's run versus the NegativeContinuity of the gag-a-day ''B&B''. Daria was originally created as a {{foil}} to Beavis and Butt-Head before she got her own show, and while she tolerated the pair, it was frequently made clear that she held a fairly poor opinion of them.
26th Nov '16 1:53:47 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* Creator/MikeJudge's flagship shows, ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButtHead'' and ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' both {{satire}} the American South. The difference is the ''Beavis & Butt-head'' is more scathing in its protrayal of [[DeepSouth a crude, ignorant, white-trash bunghole]], whereas ''King of the Hill'' offered a more respectful protrayal of [[SweetHomeAlabama a wholesome, honest, down-to-earth community]].

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* Creator/MikeJudge's flagship shows, ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButtHead'' and ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'', both {{satire}} {{satir|e}}ize life in the American South. South, particularly Judge's home state of [[EverythingIsBigInTexas Texas]]. The difference is the ''Beavis & Butt-head'' ''B&B'' is more scathing in its protrayal portrayal of [[DeepSouth a crude, ignorant, white-trash bunghole]], whereas ''King of the Hill'' offered a more respectful protrayal portrayal of [[SweetHomeAlabama a wholesome, honest, down-to-earth community]].community]].
* ''Beavis and Butt-Head''[='=]s spinoff ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' also did this with its source material. Both were animated sitcoms about Generation X teenagers who didn't fit in with their peers, but while the titular protagonists of ''B&B'' were a pair of meatheaded boys for whom ignorance was bliss, the titular protagonist of ''Daria'' was a [[DeadpanSnarker sarcastic]], female InsufferableGenius whose intellect [[TheSnarkKnight made her miserable]]. Daria was originally created as a {{foil}} to Beavis and Butt-Head before she got her own show, and while she tolerated the pair, it was frequently made clear that she held a fairly poor opinion of them.
25th Nov '16 10:05:23 PM DuelMark
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* ''Series/KamenRiderDragonKnight'' was meant to serve as one to the ''Series/PowerRangers'' franchise, to the point where they refused to hire series fan-favorite Jason David Frank for the former. Though both are an AmericanAdaptation of {{Tokusatsu}} shows, ''Franchise/KamenRider'' and ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' respectively, Power Rangers focus on a team of 3-5 individuals fighting a common enemy while Dragon Knight focused one hero finding other Kamen Riders manipulated by the BigBad. In Power Rangers, the MonsterOfTheDay is usually a creature with a gimmick who interacts with the heroes and sometimes spouts jokes and threats while the monsters in Kamen Rider have no voices or even names, they are on pair with the foot soldiers. While Power Rangers does take itself seriously in certain seasons, it still remains light-hearted and idealistic, Kamen Rider quickly let go of its comedic tones in favor of more serious story telling.
22nd Nov '16 8:43:01 PM SamMax
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** Anotherr example to the AVGN is Webvideo/CygnusDestroyer's ''The LJN Defender''. Whereas the Nerd considers Creator/LJNToys his ArchEnemy and rarely sees much (if any) good in their games, Matt does his best to find the good in their games, and usually ([[EveryoneHasStandards though certainly not always]]) finds himself enjoying them, warts and all.

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** Anotherr Another example to the AVGN is Webvideo/CygnusDestroyer's ''The LJN Defender''. Whereas the Nerd considers Creator/LJNToys his ArchEnemy and rarely sees much (if any) good in their games, Matt does his best to find the good in their games, and usually ([[EveryoneHasStandards though certainly not always]]) finds himself enjoying them, warts and all.
22nd Nov '16 8:39:09 PM SamMax
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** Anotherr example to the AVGN is Webvideo/CygnusDestroyer's ''The LJN Defender''. Whereas the Nerd considers Creator/LJNToys his ArchEnemy and rarely sees much (if any) good in their games, Matt does his best to find the good in their games, and usually ([[EveryoneHasStandards though certainly not always]]) finds himself enjoying them, warts and all.
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