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20th Jun '17 6:49:53 AM dmcreif
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** ''Series/Daredevil2015'': Said verbatim by Karen when Wilson Fisk appears on television while she, Matt, and Foggy are talking about him.
31st May '17 6:16:33 PM nombretomado
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* Neil on ''TheYoungOnes'' once summoned the demon Futumsch to Neil's shared flat by saying his name, which was due to him wondering what Mike was talking about. Not that any of the guys ever noticed Futumsch was there, mind. (Futumsch complains about his name being an obstacle to being summoned.)

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* Neil on ''TheYoungOnes'' ''Series/TheYoungOnes'' once summoned the demon Futumsch to Neil's shared flat by saying his name, which was due to him wondering what Mike was talking about. Not that any of the guys ever noticed Futumsch was there, mind. (Futumsch complains about his name being an obstacle to being summoned.)
31st May '17 6:09:59 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''YoungWizards'' series, speaking any of the Lone Power's nicknames has the danger of drawing Its attention. Even ''thinking'' its true name is ''guaranteed'' to get Its attention unless something is keeping It distracted.

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* In the ''YoungWizards'' ''Literature/YoungWizards'' series, speaking any of the Lone Power's nicknames has the danger of drawing Its attention. Even ''thinking'' its true name is ''guaranteed'' to get Its attention unless something is keeping It distracted.
24th May '17 7:10:38 PM PhantomRider
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** Wizards, despite being human, can invoke this. If a person knows a wizard's True Name, they can try to gain control over the person. However, if the Wizard has a stronger will and power, they can reverse the binding and bind the would-be summoner.

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** Wizards, despite being human, can invoke this. If a person knows a wizard's True Name, they can try to gain control over the person. However, if the Wizard has a stronger will and power, they can reverse the binding and bind the would-be summoner. (In one of the books, Harry's BadassBoast at the end is to give his ''full'' name, and warn: "Conjure by it at your own risk." Of course, that's just in narration. He takes seriously the damage the right enemy could do if he really ''did'' go around putting his full name out there.)
24th May '17 7:28:04 AM bweb
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** Wolverine actually is dismissive of this at first, pointing out that it's a common word, spoken hundreds, if not thousands, of times per day, so how would Spiral know? Cue her showing up, telling him it's all about context and tone of voice to indicate to her whether someone is referring to her or not.
12th May '17 10:08:26 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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This makes talking about the villain problematic, as he has to be referred to as "The Enemy" or [[Franchise/HarryPotter "He Who Must Not Be Named" or " You Know Who"]], or just by a nickname, as with {{Satan}}, who may be called "Old Nick" or "Mister Scratch" (or LouisCypher). Sometimes these nicknames are conspicuously positive, just in case they're listening anyway, as with TheFairFolk, because you do ''not'' want to face down a pissed-off faerie. If referring to him by any name summons him, then you're screwed.

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This makes talking about the villain problematic, as he has to be referred to as "The Enemy" or [[Franchise/HarryPotter "He Who Must Not Be Named" or " You "You Know Who"]], or just by a nickname, as with {{Satan}}, who may be called "Old Nick" or "Mister Scratch" (or LouisCypher). Sometimes these nicknames are conspicuously positive, just in case they're listening anyway, as with TheFairFolk, because you do ''not'' want to face down a pissed-off faerie. If referring to him by any name summons him, then you're screwed.



Another variation is that the villain's name must be said multiple times to summon him. In these cases, saying the name once is safe, so you probably don't need to worry about summoning him accidentally, or being tricked into doing so (unless you have no idea what's going on and just come across a piece of paper saying "[[SchmuckBait Say Hastur 3 times]].") ([[LiteralMinded Okay. "Hastur three times."]]) Instead, the villain is essentially SealedEvilInACan, and he'll be summoned either by someone who has no idea what's going on, or by someone who got his [[DeathByGenreSavviness tropes mixed up]] and thinks he'll be able to control the villain this way (perhaps through IKnowYourTrueName)), or [[DealWithTheDevil bargain with him]]. [[EvilIsNotAToy Expect this guy to die horribly.]] Also expect this villain not to disappear.

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Another variation is that the villain's name must be said multiple times to summon him. In these cases, saying the name once is safe, so you probably don't need to worry about summoning him accidentally, or being tricked into doing so (unless you have no idea what's going on and just come across a piece of paper saying "[[SchmuckBait Say Hastur 3 times]].") ([[LiteralMinded ([[ExactWords Okay. "Hastur three times."]]) Instead, the villain is essentially SealedEvilInACan, and he'll be summoned either by someone who has no idea what's going on, or by someone who got his [[DeathByGenreSavviness tropes mixed up]] and thinks he'll be able to control the villain this way (perhaps through IKnowYourTrueName)), or [[DealWithTheDevil bargain with him]]. [[EvilIsNotAToy Expect this guy to die horribly.]] Also expect this villain not to disappear.
2nd May '17 8:04:18 AM Couran
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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from ''Changes'' Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight speaks Mab's name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight then only refers to her as "my queen."

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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from ''Changes'' Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight Harry speaks Mab's her name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight Harry then only refers to her as "my queen."
2nd May '17 8:03:16 AM Couran
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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from Literature/Changes Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight speaks Mab's name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight then only refers to her as "my queen."

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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from Literature/Changes ''Changes'' Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight speaks Mab's name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight then only refers to her as "my queen."
2nd May '17 8:02:43 AM Couran
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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from "Changes" Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight speaks Mab's name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight then only refers to her as "my queen."

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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from "Changes" Literature/Changes Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight speaks Mab's name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight then only refers to her as "my queen."
2nd May '17 8:02:03 AM Couran
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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from [[Literature/Changes]] Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight speaks Mab's name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight then only refers to her as "my queen."

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** The Queens of the respective fey courts courts and many other beings may be summoned this way though generally the summoner must have a degree of power which they can use to call such entities up, otherwise they just fade into the background noise. A good example comes from [[Literature/Changes]] "Changes" Harry is deep inside enemy territory protected only by the Erlking's respect for SacredHospitality, and he refers to Queen Mab by her name. The Erlking notes if the Knight speaks Mab's name a third time in their conversation, it will cause her to be summoned to his domain. The Knight then only refers to her as "my queen."
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