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20th May '17 10:27:54 AM EDP
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* ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'' has Louis Charles, Louis XVI's second male child, who finds himself the Dauphin of France when his older brother Louis Joseph dies. In a variant, both Joseph and Charles were still children when this happens (they were respectively seven and four), and it was diagnosed a few years early anyway. The king's brothers, the Counts of Provence and Artois, and the Duke of Normandy also hoped to invoke this trope in their favor.
** In the sequel ''Eikou no Napoleon-Eroica'', Alexander I of Russia is portrayed as this-and ''happy'' to be one, as when his grandmother the tsarine Catherine dies before she can make him officially the heir in his father Paul's place he stays hidden until Paul arrives, at which point he's the first to salute him as the new tsar. Also Louis XVIII of France had previously appeared in ''Rose of Versailles'' as the Count of Provence, becoming the claimant to the throne of France upon Louis Charles' death (and later actually taking the throne after Napoleon's defeat).

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* ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'' has Louis Charles, Louis XVI's second male child, who finds himself the Dauphin of France when his older brother Louis Joseph dies. In a variant, both Joseph and Charles were still children when this happens (they were respectively seven and four), and it was diagnosed a few years early anyway. Louis Charles never gets to reign anyway, as UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution abolishes the monarchy, but MarieAntoinette proclaims him king Louis XVII the moment after his father's execution.
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The king's brothers, the Counts of Provence and Artois, and the Duke of Normandy also hoped to invoke this trope in their favor.
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favor. The Count of Provence then returns in the sequel ''Eikou no Napoleon-Eroica'', calling himself King Louis XVIII after his nephew's death during prisony. While he considers himself as king of France since the moment of his nephew's death in 1795, he doesn't get to actually reign until Napoleon's defeat in 1814-and then is back on the run when Napoleon comes back, at least until his final defeat at Waterloo.
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Alexander I of Russia is portrayed as this-and ''happy'' to be one, as when Russia-who [[DefiedTrope makes sure it doesn't happen]]: while his grandmother the tsarine grandmother, Catherine dies before she can make him officially the heir in Great, planned to skip his father Paul's place he stays hidden Paul and have him succeed her directly, she had a stroke and died just as she was about to put it in writing and make it official, and Alexander hid himself until Paul arrives, arrived, at which point he's he was the first to salute him as the new tsar. Also Louis XVIII of France had previously appeared in ''Rose of Versailles'' as the Count of Provence, becoming the claimant to the throne of France upon Louis Charles' death (and later actually taking the throne after Napoleon's defeat).tsar.
17th May '17 10:32:45 AM EDP
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* ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'' has Louis Charles, Louis XVI's second male child, who finds himself the Dauphin of France when his older brother Louis Joseph dies. In a variant, both Joseph and Charles were still children when this happens (they were respectively seven and four), and it was diagnosed a few years early anyway.
** In the sequel ''Eikou no Napoleon-Eroica'', Alexander I of Russia is portrayed as this-and ''happy'' to be one, as when his grandmother the tsarine Catherine dies before she can make him officially the heir in his father Paul's place he stays hidden until Paul arrives, at which point he's the first to salute him as the new tsar.

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* ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'' has Louis Charles, Louis XVI's second male child, who finds himself the Dauphin of France when his older brother Louis Joseph dies. In a variant, both Joseph and Charles were still children when this happens (they were respectively seven and four), and it was diagnosed a few years early anyway.
anyway. The king's brothers, the Counts of Provence and Artois, and the Duke of Normandy also hoped to invoke this trope in their favor.
** In the sequel ''Eikou no Napoleon-Eroica'', Alexander I of Russia is portrayed as this-and ''happy'' to be one, as when his grandmother the tsarine Catherine dies before she can make him officially the heir in his father Paul's place he stays hidden until Paul arrives, at which point he's the first to salute him as the new tsar. Also Louis XVIII of France had previously appeared in ''Rose of Versailles'' as the Count of Provence, becoming the claimant to the throne of France upon Louis Charles' death (and later actually taking the throne after Napoleon's defeat).
17th May '17 10:24:41 AM EDP
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* ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'' has Louis Charles, Louis XVI's second male child, who finds himself the Dauphin of France when his older brother Louis Joseph dies. In a variant, both Joseph and Charles were still children when this happens (they were respectively seven and four), and it was diagnosed a few years early anyway.
** In the sequel ''Eikou no Napoleon-Eroica'', Alexander I of Russia is portrayed as this-and ''happy'' to be one, as when his grandmother the tsarine Catherine dies before she can make him officially the heir in his father Paul's place he stays hidden until Paul arrives, at which point he's the first to salute him as the new tsar.
10th May '17 10:34:57 AM Hanz
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* ''Western/Animation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' uses this trope in regards to none other than [[spoiler: Prince Lotor]]. [[spoiler: He's conspicuously absent from and uninvolved with his father King Zarkon's campaign for galactic conquest, and is only brought back into the fold after Zarkon is defeated by the Paladins during the Season 2 finale; prior to that, despite being the sole heir to the Galra Empire, the soldiers don't seem to know ''who'' he is.]]

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* ''Western/Animation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' uses this trope in regards to none other than [[spoiler: Prince Lotor]]. [[spoiler: He's conspicuously absent from and uninvolved with his father King Zarkon's campaign for galactic conquest, and is only brought back into the fold after Zarkon is defeated by the Paladins during the Season 2 finale; prior to that, despite being the sole heir to the Galra Empire, the soldiers don't seem to know ''who'' he is.]]
22nd Apr '17 5:29:40 PM nombretomado
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* ''SuikodenV'' has a non-royal example with the House of Barows. After his older brother Hiram was assassinated during the bloody Succession Conflict, Euram was thrust into the role of his father's heir, as well as dealing with his mother's extended [[DespairEventHorizon BSOD]]. This stress of this helps shape him into the irritating {{Epic Fail}}ing UpperClassTwit everyone has to deal with during the events of the game, until CharacterDevelopment enables him to grow out of it.

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* ''SuikodenV'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'' has a non-royal example with the House of Barows. After his older brother Hiram was assassinated during the bloody Succession Conflict, Euram was thrust into the role of his father's heir, as well as dealing with his mother's extended [[DespairEventHorizon BSOD]]. This stress of this helps shape him into the irritating {{Epic Fail}}ing UpperClassTwit everyone has to deal with during the events of the game, until CharacterDevelopment enables him to grow out of it.
13th Apr '17 9:36:01 AM JoeMerl
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* This was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally]] planned to play into the story of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', with Anna feeling some angst over her role as the "superfluous" sister while the older Elsa is set up to be queen. In the actual movie this is averted -- while Elsa spends much of the movie in exile or arrested, and Anna briefly holds power as regent before she heads off alone to look for Elsa, no one really talks about Anna taking her place as queen, likely because there isn't any chance to figure that out before everything is resolved. [[spoiler:Well, Hans ''does'' consider it. In fact, he banks on this trope when he plans to woo Anna, marry her, kill Elsa, and then be set up as king of Arandelle.]] Strictly speaking, however, this film averts this trope: once their parents die, Elsa is the queen, Anna is the heir, and there is no spare [[spoiler:which is where Hans sees himself fitting in.]] Both Anna and [[spoiler: her boyfriend Hans]] were born in this position ([[spoiler:in fact, Hans has twelve older siblings, so his chances of inheriting are basically nil]]), but while Anna is happy in a supporting role to her sister, [[spoiler: Hans has [[EvilAllAlong let it bother him somewhat]].]]

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* This was In ''Disney/{{Frozen}},'' Hans mentions wistfully that he has [[MassiveNumberedSiblings twelve older brothers]], and seems to have a bit of a complex about it. [[spoiler:Since he'll never inherit his homeland, [[EvilAllAlong he wants to take over Arendelle instead]]]].
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[[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally]] planned There were plans]] to play into the story of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', with give Anna a plot like this, even including a song about feeling some angst over like a "spare," but it was cut to avoid giving her role as and Hans the "superfluous" same subplot. And technically, with her parents dead and her older sister while as queen, she spends most of the older Elsa is set up to be queen. In film as the actual movie this is averted -- while Elsa spends much of the movie in exile or arrested, and Anna briefly holds power as regent before she heads off alone to look for Elsa, no one really talks about Anna taking her place as queen, likely because there isn't any chance to figure that out before everything is resolved. [[spoiler:Well, Hans ''does'' consider it. In fact, he banks on this trope when he plans to woo Anna, marry her, kill Elsa, and then be set up as king of Arandelle.]] Strictly speaking, however, this film averts this trope: once their parents die, Elsa is the queen, Anna is the heir, and there is no spare [[spoiler:which is where Hans sees himself fitting in.]] Both Anna and [[spoiler: her boyfriend Hans]] were born in this position ([[spoiler:in fact, Hans has twelve older siblings, so his chances of inheriting are basically nil]]), but while Anna is happy in a supporting role to her sister, [[spoiler: Hans has [[EvilAllAlong let it bother him somewhat]].]]heir anyway.
13th Apr '17 9:31:01 AM JoeMerl
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* Inverted in ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'' -- it turns out Shasta the peasant boy is actually one of two twin princes of Archenland, kidnapped as a babe. And since he's the older of the two twins he's next in line for the throne, which delights his brother no end because he never wanted to be the heir (and is by extension now the spare).
** In the same book, hot-headed Prince Rabadash, the heir to the throne of Calorman, is given permission to raid nearby Archenland in pursuit of Queen Susan. His father the Tisroc [[DiscussedTrope discusses this trope]] with his advisor, commenting that he can afford to lose Rabadash and promote a more biddable "spare" in his place.

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* Inverted in ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'' -- it turns out Shasta the peasant boy is actually one of two twin princes of Archenland, kidnapped as a babe. And since it turns out he's the older of the two twins he's next in line for the throne, which delights his brother no end because than Corin, who is delighted that he never wanted to won't ever be the heir stuck with boring royal duties now (and is by extension now the spare).
[[HotBlooded threatens to punch Shasta]] if he tries to renege on his duties).
** In the same book, hot-headed Prince Rabadash, the heir to the throne of Calorman, is given permission to raid nearby Archenland in pursuit of Queen Susan. His father the Tisroc [[DiscussedTrope discusses this trope]] with his advisor, commenting that [[WeHaveReserves he can afford to lose Rabadash Rabadash]] and promote a more biddable "spare" in his place.
7th Apr '17 4:39:15 PM Bissek
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** Prince Borric was originally a spare to the throne, but his cousin drowned, his aunt passed childbearing age, and his father renounced his claim to his brother's throne in favor of his children.

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** Prince Borric was originally a spare to the throne, but his cousin drowned, his aunt passed childbearing age, age without producing another son, and his father renounced his claim to his brother's throne in favor of his children.children (believing that the kingdom would be ill served by a king only a few years younger than the one who just died of old age).



* In ''Literature/TheBelgariad'', this is a part of Silk's backstory. Silk is the nephew of King Rhodar of Drasnia, and became promoted to heir after a disease, implied to be smallpox, took most of the rest of the family. Silk, having spent most of his life in the Intelligence Service (and most of that in deep cover as a travelling merchant), was horrified at the prospect, and was (along with the rest of Drasnia, one would assume) immensely relieved at the birth of his cousin, Crown Prince Kheva.

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* In ''Literature/TheBelgariad'', this is a part of Silk's backstory. Silk is the nephew of King Rhodar of Drasnia, and became promoted to heir after a disease, implied to be smallpox, took most of the rest of the family. Silk, having spent most of his life in the Intelligence Service (and most of that in deep cover as a travelling traveling merchant), was horrified at the prospect, and was (along with the rest of Drasnia, one would assume) immensely relieved at the birth of his cousin, Crown Prince Kheva.
4th Apr '17 3:53:11 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''Western/Animation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' uses this trope in regards to none other than [[spoiler: Prince Lotor]]. [[spoiler: He's conspicuously absent from and uninvolved with his father King Zarkon's campaign for galactic conquest, and is only brought back into the fold after Zarkon is defeated by the Paladins during the Season 2 finale; prior to that, despite being the sole heir to the Galra Empire, the soldiers don't seem to know ''who'' he is.]]
2nd Apr '17 10:03:33 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* In ''Manga/AnatoliaStory'', Prince Kail Mursili has a number of older brothers and half-brothers who have claim to the throne before him. Just about everyone, those brothers included, [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure agree that Kail is best-suited to rule]], though. Nakia, meanwhile, is desperate for her own son Judah to take the throne. Given that her boy is the youngest of the princes, this means she has a lot of scheming to do to get the others out of the way, even when the poor boy has quite the BigBrotherWorship towards Kail and does ''not'' want to rule. [[spoiler:By the end of the series, all of Kail's older brothers are dead and Prince Juda permanently renounces his claim to the throne. By that point, it wasn't a question of whether or not Kail expected to rule so much as when he would actually be taking the throne.]]

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* In ''Manga/AnatoliaStory'', Prince Kail Mursili has a number of older brothers and half-brothers who have claim to the throne before him. Just about everyone, those brothers included, [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure agree that Kail is best-suited to rule]], though. Nakia, meanwhile, is desperate for her own son Judah to take the throne. Given that her boy is the youngest of the princes, this means she has a lot of scheming to do to get the others out of the way, even when the poor boy has quite the BigBrotherWorship towards Kail and does ''not'' want to rule. [[spoiler:By the end of the series, all of Kail's older brothers are dead (including the one who succeeded their father, who appointed Kail as ''his'' succesor since he didn't hace kids) and Prince Juda permanently renounces his claim to the throne.throne after [[CallingTheOldManOut also calling out his mother on her evil deeds]]. By that point, it wasn't a question of whether or not Kail expected to rule so much as when he would actually be taking the throne.]]
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