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-->'''Koko''': Echo, my Melos!
-->'''Flying Bunny''': "Echo, my Melos"? How can we hear that? We're in space, right?

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'''Flying
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* They did attempt keep this trope in mind (sometimes) [[ComicBook/PostCrisis after the Crisis]]. After the Death of Superman, the Cyborg threw Doomsday out of the Solar System- it showed Doomsday laughing as he hurtled through space, but they had the narrator make a disclaimer along the lines of "You cannot hear sounds in space, but if you could...".

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* They did attempt keep this trope in mind (sometimes) [[ComicBook/PostCrisis after the Crisis]]. After the Death of Superman, the Cyborg threw throws Doomsday out of the Solar System- System -- it showed shows Doomsday laughing as he hurtled hurtles through space, but they had have the narrator make a disclaimer along the lines of "You cannot hear sounds in space, but if you could...".



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** Working with George Lucas on ''Star Wars'', Creator/AlanDeanFoster strongly objected to explosions in space and produced several viable alternatives (probably including the same one he wrote in the novelization, below). Lucas' reply wasn't "but it makes this more like the old-time serials", it was a cynical "There's a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them the boom." Foster hasn't worked with Lucas since.
* In ''Film/{{Apollo 13}}'' a wind effect was used for extravehicular shots of the module in freefall, really as an effect that is {{Quieter Than Silence}}.

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** Working with George Lucas on ''Star Wars'', Creator/AlanDeanFoster strongly objected to explosions in space and produced several viable alternatives (probably including the same one he wrote in the novelization, below). Lucas' Lucas's reply wasn't "but it makes this more like the old-time serials", it was a cynical "There's a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them the boom." Foster hasn't worked with Lucas since.
* In ''Film/{{Apollo 13}}'' ''Film/Apollo13'' a wind effect was used for extravehicular shots of the module in freefall, really as an effect that is {{Quieter Than Silence}}.QuieterThanSilence.



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* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** The ''A New Hope'' novel justifies it the same way, as does the RadioDrama. The novelization uses the ''Hunting Party'' explanation during the Death Star escape to explain why the gunners can hear the scream of TIE fighters around the ship.
--> Your sensors'll give you an audio simulation for a rough idea of where those fighters are when they're not on your screen. It'll sound like they're right there in the turret with you.
---> -- '''Han Solo to Luke Skywalker'''

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
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''Franchise/StarWars'': The ''A New Hope'' novel justifies it the same way, as does the RadioDrama. The novelization uses the ''Hunting Party'' explanation during the Death Star escape to explain why the gunners can hear the scream of TIE fighters around the ship.
--> -->'''Han Solo:''' ''[to Luke Skywalker]'' Your sensors'll give you an audio simulation for a rough idea of where those fighters are when they're not on your screen. It'll sound like they're right there in the turret with you. \n---> -- '''Han Solo to Luke Skywalker'''



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* ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'', of all games, although it's not the first liberty the series has taken with the laws of physics. [[spoiler:It may help that there's tons of air being sucked from Aperture Science into the vacuum of ''[[Memes/{{Portal}} SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE]]'' to conduct the sound waves. That excuse doesn't hold for the after-credits scene with Wheatley, however.]] On the other side, Wheatley and the Space Core could just be communicating wirelessly, and as a result, the camera just picks up the wireless communication and lets us hear it, so it appears as if they're actually talking though they're not. Of course, It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's on the Space Core's mind...

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* ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'', ''VideoGame/Portal2'', of all games, although it's not the first liberty the series has taken with the laws of physics. [[spoiler:It may help that there's tons of air being sucked from Aperture Science into the vacuum of ''[[Memes/{{Portal}} SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE]]'' to conduct the sound waves. That excuse doesn't hold for the after-credits scene with Wheatley, however.]] On the other side, Wheatley and the Space Core could just be communicating wirelessly, and as a result, the camera just picks up the wireless communication and lets us hear it, so it appears as if they're actually talking though they're not. Of course, It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's on the Space Core's mind...



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* ''{{Transformers}}'' can talk while on the moon or flying around in space.

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* ''{{Transformers}}'' ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'':
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can talk while on the moon or flying around in space.



** Special mention must be made for the ''WesternAnimated/TransformersAnimated'' episode "A Fistful of Energon" where Starscream actually ''acknowledges'' that they are in an airless vacuum ("Hey! You call this a fight? I'll rust before someone wins! And I'm in a vacuum").

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** Special mention must be made for the ''WesternAnimated/TransformersAnimated'' episode "A Fistful of Energon" where Starscream actually ''acknowledges'' that they are in an airless vacuum ("Hey! vacuum.
--->'''Starscream:''' Hey!
You call this a fight? I'll rust before someone wins! And I'm in a vacuum").vacuum.



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* Even mighty NASA, it seems, [[http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/audio/MissionOverview-HQversions.web.mov falls victim to this trope]]. Rocket noise and separation charges and so forth. They even seem to have launched up a record player along with it. There's air ''inside'' the ship, obviously.
* At least one documentary has explosions producing sound effects in space, though probably for dramatic effect.

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* Even mighty NASA, it seems, [[http://lcross.arc.nasa.gov/audio/MissionOverview-HQversions.web.mov falls victim to this trope]]. Rocket noise and separation charges and so forth. They even seem to have launched up a record player along with it. There's air ''inside'' the ship, obviously.
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obviously. At least one documentary has explosions producing sound effects in space, though probably for dramatic effect.effect.
* Although it is true that no sound could travel in an absolute vacuum, space is not a true vacuum, but is actually filled with an ''extremely'' thin gas. This means that [[http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_030922.html sound CAN travel in space]] -- although it takes a very loud sound and a very sensitive ear to hear it. As a notable example, the chaotic gas surrounding a particular black hole about 250 million light-years away produces a sound (detected by observing the ripples it causes with the Chandra X-ray Observatory satellite) -- a [[http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_note_030909.html B-flat]], to be precise.
** It's a [[Music/TheRollingStones gas, gas]], [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091306/ gas]].
** B-flat is the key of most vuvuzelas. Sorta ruins the majesty of the astronomical phenomenon, don't it?
* From the [[UsefulNotes/{{NASA}} Apollo Program]], there's an example of [[http://blogs.zooniverse.org/moonzoo/2011/07/18/sounds-on-the-moon/ hammer sounds on the Moon]]. Which may have been conducted through through the ground, the astronaut, and into the mic. Solids are media too!



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* Although it is true that no sound could travel in an absolute vacuum, space is not a true vacuum, but is actually filled with an ''extremely'' thin gas. This means that [[http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_030922.html sound CAN travel in space]] - although it takes a very loud sound and a very sensitive ear to hear it. As a notable example, the chaotic gas surrounding a particular black hole about 250 million light-years away produces a sound (detected by observing the ripples it causes with the Chandra X-ray Observatory satellite) - a [[http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_note_030909.html B-flat]], to be precise.
** It's a [[Music/TheRollingStones gas, gas]], [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091306/ gas]].
** B-flat is the key of most vuvuzelas. Sorta ruins the majesty of the astronomical phenomenon, don't it?
* From the [[UsefulNotes/{{NASA}} Apollo Program]], there's an example of [[http://blogs.zooniverse.org/moonzoo/2011/07/18/sounds-on-the-moon/ hammer sounds on the Moon]]. Which may have been conducted through through the ground, the astronaut, and into the mic. Solids are media too!
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* The {{anime}} film ''Manga/{{Akira}}'' had a short scene in space (Tetsuo attacking [[KillSat Sol]]), where there is actually ''no sound at all''.

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* In the Super Bowl ad for Denny's free Grand Slam, when the chicken screams in space, no noise is heard.
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* The {{anime}} film ''Manga/{{Akira}}'' had a short scene in space (Tetsuo attacking [[KillSat Sol]]), where there is actually ''no sound at all''.
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* Much like ''Planetes'', it's hard to tell due to the music and dialogue, but there is no sound in space in ''Anime/GunXSword''. This is most noticeable when [[spoiler:Michael destroys Dann of Thursday's satellite - silently]].

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* Much like ''Planetes'', it's hard to tell due to the music and dialogue, but there is no sound in space in ''Anime/GunXSword''. This is most noticeable when [[spoiler:Michael destroys Dann of Thursday's satellite - -- silently]].



* ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'' actually goes to some lengths to justify everyone being able to hear the main characters' singing while in space. Basara's Valkyrie is armed with "speaker pods" rather than normal ammunition, which burrow into an enemy ship's cockpit, seal themselves in (preventing decompression), and then start transmitting his music. Later, after they figure out that Basara's singing is being used as a medium to transmit his "anima spiritia", they instead build machines that are able to harness this spiritia and transmit it as coherent energy beams (labelled "Song Energy" by their inventor), which also seem able to carry sound waves through vacuum. Later ''Macross'' series justify it as the music being propagated through Fold Waves, usually with Fold Quartz or Fold Bacteria around to pick up said waves and translate them into sound.

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* ''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'' ''Anime/Macross7'' actually goes to some lengths to justify everyone being able to hear the main characters' singing while in space. Basara's Valkyrie is armed with "speaker pods" rather than normal ammunition, which burrow into an enemy ship's cockpit, seal themselves in (preventing decompression), and then start transmitting his music. Later, after they figure out that Basara's singing is being used as a medium to transmit his "anima spiritia", they instead build machines that are able to harness this spiritia and transmit it as coherent energy beams (labelled "Song Energy" by their inventor), which also seem able to carry sound waves through vacuum. Later ''Macross'' series justify it as the music being propagated through Fold Waves, usually with Fold Quartz or Fold Bacteria around to pick up said waves and translate them into sound.



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* In the Super Bowl ad for Denny's free Grand Slam, when the chicken screams in space, no noise is heard.

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* In Parodied in an early ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'' comic, which had a balding, lab-coated scientist jump up in the Super Bowl ad for Denny's free Grand Slam, when middle of a crowded theater to protest "Stop the chicken screams Movie! Stop the Movie! Explosions don't go 'BOOM!' in space, no noise is heard.a vacuum!"



* The {{anime}} film ''Manga/{{Akira}}'' has a short scene in space (Tetsuo attacking [[KillSat Sol]]), where there is actually ''no sound at all''.
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* Partial exception in the 2009 ''Film/StarTrek''. Space is still noisy in most scenes, as with battles and ships entering and dropping out of warp, but in scenes with people in space there is only a faint ethereal hum or breathing noise (reminiscent of ''2001''). Of particular note is when the camera sees a USS ''Kelvin'' crewmember get [[ThrownOutTheAirlock spaced]] through a hull breach during the attack of the ''Narada''. You hear the rush of air out of the airlock, then the moment she crosses the breach, not a thing. Probably to emphasize the fact that she just got deprived of her precious oxygen. This led [[http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/05/08/ba-review-star-trek/ Bad Astronomy]] to say he wanted to ''"kiss J.J. Abrams right on the mouth"''.
** Likewise tension is built up during the dive onto the drill by having the away team eject from the shuttle [[MoodWhiplash into complete silence]], then slowly adding sound as the atmosphere gets thicker.
* Several space scenes in ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' lack sound effects, save for BGM and any sounds in space suits. This is not universal within the film, however.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'':
** Several space scenes in ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' lack sound effects, save for BGM and any sounds in space suits. This is not universal within the film, however.
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Partial exception in the 2009 ''Film/StarTrek''. Space is still noisy in most scenes, as with battles and ships entering and dropping out of warp, but in scenes with people in space there is only a faint ethereal hum or breathing noise (reminiscent of ''2001''). Of particular note is when the camera sees a USS ''Kelvin'' crewmember get [[ThrownOutTheAirlock spaced]] through a hull breach during the attack of the ''Narada''. You hear the rush of air out of the airlock, then the moment she crosses the breach, not a thing. Probably to emphasize the fact that she just got deprived of her precious oxygen. This led [[http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/05/08/ba-review-star-trek/ Bad Astronomy]] to say he wanted to ''"kiss J.J. Abrams right on the mouth"''.
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mouth"''. Likewise, tension is built up during the dive onto the drill by having the away team eject from the shuttle [[MoodWhiplash into complete silence]], then slowly adding sound as the atmosphere gets thicker.
* Several space scenes in ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' lack sound effects, save for BGM and any sounds in space suits. This is not universal within the film, however.
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* In the early days of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', the battles were depicted as soundless. Eventually, ExecutiveMeddling brought about the change. ''Franchise/StarTrek'' has had noisy space ever since.

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In the early days of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', the battles were depicted as soundless. Eventually, ExecutiveMeddling brought about the change. ''Franchise/StarTrek'' ''Star Trek'' has had noisy space ever since.



** In the serial "The Ark in Space" a spacecraft is shown exploding on a viewscreen in silence, a moment which is more effective for the lack of noise.
** "The Parting of the Ways" also used the silence of space to good effect when [[spoiler:Lynda]] was exterminated. The Dalek appeared outside the space station window and we saw its lights flash ''as though'' it was saying "Ex-ter-min-ate!" before it shot the window out -- but we heard nothing except [[spoiler:Lynda]]'s scream.

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** In the serial "The Ark in Space" Space", a spacecraft is shown exploding on a viewscreen in silence, a moment which is more effective for the lack of noise.
** "The Parting of the Ways" also used the silence of space to good effect when [[spoiler:Lynda]] was is exterminated. The Dalek appeared appears outside the space station window and we saw sees its lights flash ''as though'' it was is saying "Ex-ter-min-ate!" before it shot shots the window out -- but we heard hears nothing except [[spoiler:Lynda]]'s scream.



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* Parodied in an early ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'' comic, which had a balding, lab-coated scientist jump up in the middle of a crowded theater to protest "Stop the Movie! Stop the Movie! Explosions don't go 'BOOM!' in a vacuum!"

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* Parodied in an early ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'' comic, which had a balding, lab-coated scientist jump up Averted in the middle of a crowded theater ''Pinball/{{Defender}}'' pinball, which omits any background sounds to protest "Stop make the Movie! Stop game match its VideoGame namesake. Some players find the Movie! Explosions don't go 'BOOM!' in a vacuum!"unusual silence rather disturbing.



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* Averted in the ''Pinball/{{Defender}}'' pinball, which omits any background sounds to make the game match its VideoGame namesake. Some players find the unusual silence rather disturbing.
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* Averted in the ''Pinball/{{Defender}}'' pinball, which omits any background sounds to make the game match its VideoGame namesake. Some players find the unusual silence rather disturbing.
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9th Jun '17 9:27:38 PM nombretomado
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* In the WilliamShatner Franchise/StarTrek ExpandedUniverse novels, there are several scenes that take place in vacuum and are noted to be completely silent. The only time when sound is heard is when it's felt through vibrations carried through space suits, including one scene where Kirk's radio is broken, causing [[spoiler:his mirror universe counterpart Tiberius]] to press their faceplates together so he can taunt him.

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* In the WilliamShatner Creator/WilliamShatner Franchise/StarTrek ExpandedUniverse novels, there are several scenes that take place in vacuum and are noted to be completely silent. The only time when sound is heard is when it's felt through vibrations carried through space suits, including one scene where Kirk's radio is broken, causing [[spoiler:his mirror universe counterpart Tiberius]] to press their faceplates together so he can taunt him.
27th May '17 12:27:04 AM rodneyAnonymous
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* ''Series/GekisouSentaiCarranger'' had one episode where the MOTW's plan was to use the noise of toots in order to piss off aliens to destroy earth. [[spoiler:In the end, his bike horns made so much noise that a passing alien blew him up.]]

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* ''Series/GekisouSentaiCarranger'' had one In an episode where of ''Series/GekisouSentaiCarranger'', the MOTW's MonsterOfTheWeek's plan was is to use the noise of toots in order to piss off aliens to destroy earth. [[spoiler:In the end, his bike horns made make so much noise that a passing alien blew blows him up.]]
21st May '17 3:25:57 AM Dark_Lord_
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* In ''[[Fanfic/PeterChimaerasDigimonTrilogy Digimon 2: Return of Digimon]]'', both Digimon and his EvilCounterpart Evil Digimon are perfectly able to talk to each other during their climactic battle in space.
3rd May '17 2:24:49 AM SebastianGray
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* Averted in ''Anime/ID0'' where all the space sequences lack sound effects. Even asteroids striking the shields of a ship do so in silence.
13th Apr '17 5:11:46 PM nombretomado
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* ''SinsOfASolarEmpire'' has sound in space by default, but you can turn it off if you so choose.

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* ''SinsOfASolarEmpire'' ''VideoGame/SinsOfASolarEmpire'' has sound in space by default, but you can turn it off if you so choose.
9th Apr '17 10:25:40 PM Meltemi
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* Averted and lampshaded in ''Webcomic/{{Narbonic}}'', as seen in the opening quote and [[http://www.webcomicsnation.com/users/narbonic/012403despots.jpg this strip]].

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* Averted and lampshaded in ''Webcomic/{{Narbonic}}'', as seen in the opening quote and [[http://www.webcomicsnation.com/users/narbonic/012403despots.jpg this strip]].[[http://narbonic.com/comic/january-20-25-2003/ the fifth strip]] of the linked week.
27th Feb '17 4:12:31 PM nombretomado
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* Possibly by accident in ''Webcomic/GetMedieval''. [[http://get-medieval.livejournal.com/226663.html A near-miss fired at the heroes while they were preparing for takeoff from the moon]] is accompanied by a KABOOM! -- which makes perfect sense, since the shot ''hit'' the moon and the sound can be conveyed through the regolith. (This does not stop people in the [[{{Livejournal}} comments section]] from hypothesizing some kind of glancing blow to explain the noise.)

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* Possibly by accident in ''Webcomic/GetMedieval''. [[http://get-medieval.livejournal.com/226663.html A near-miss fired at the heroes while they were preparing for takeoff from the moon]] is accompanied by a KABOOM! -- which makes perfect sense, since the shot ''hit'' the moon and the sound can be conveyed through the regolith. (This does not stop people in the [[{{Livejournal}} [[Website/LiveJournal comments section]] from hypothesizing some kind of glancing blow to explain the noise.)
3rd Jan '17 11:30:11 AM CaptEquinox
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** Working with George Lucas on ''Star Wars'', Creator/AlanDeanFoster strongly objected to explosions in space and produced several viable alternatives. Lucas' reply wasn't "but it makes this more like the old-time serials", it was a cynical "There's a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them the boom." Foster hasn't worked with Lucas since.

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** Working with George Lucas on ''Star Wars'', Creator/AlanDeanFoster strongly objected to explosions in space and produced several viable alternatives.alternatives (probably including the same one he wrote in the novelization, below). Lucas' reply wasn't "but it makes this more like the old-time serials", it was a cynical "There's a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them the boom." Foster hasn't worked with Lucas since.
3rd Jan '17 11:27:20 AM CaptEquinox
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** Working with George Lucas on ''Star Wars'', Creator/AlanDeanFoster strongly objected to explosions in space and produced several viable alternatives. Lucas' reply wasn't "but it makes this more like the old-time serials", it was a cynical "There's a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them the boom." Foster hasn't worked with Lucas since.
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