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6th May '16 2:20:55 PM Jice_Wumpkin
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SpaceAmish have generally found themselves a nice pastoral {{Arcadia}} somewhere and settled down in pursuit of a [[GoodIsOldFashioned simple life.]] They're usually isolated, and are quite likely to be a LostColony. Space Amish are defined by having very limited or primitive technology [[SchizoTech in explicit contrast with the extensive technology of the universe around it]], though just how limited or primitive their technology is can vary widely.

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SpaceAmish Space Amish have generally found themselves a nice pastoral {{Arcadia}} somewhere and settled down in pursuit of a [[GoodIsOldFashioned simple life.]] They're usually isolated, and are quite likely to be a LostColony. Space Amish are defined by having very limited or primitive technology [[SchizoTech in explicit contrast with the extensive technology of the universe around it]], though just how limited or primitive their technology is can vary widely.


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5th May '16 5:16:15 AM Swordnoob
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* The [[ArtificialHuman Synthetic Human Alliance]] of OrionsArm are explicitly compared to the Old Earth [[UsefulNotes/Amish]], as they were originally multifunctional bodyguards, nannies and [[Main/Sexbot sexbots]] who found a loophole in their programming: if fleeing from their masters was in the interest of their master's (more specifically, their offspring's) safety, they should do so. After founding the SHA, they created a ludd utopia, with importance placed on communities, hard but fair work, a rejection of vanity and [[FreeSexFuture pleasure]]. They are surprisingly hi tech, needed to maintain the synthetic half of their population, but have a purely utilitarian view on technology, with 'skillsets' being temporarily lent whenever necessary. They're widely regarded as an example of how a nearbaseline ludd society can work perfectly well by modosophonts and transapients alike.

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* The [[ArtificialHuman Synthetic Human Alliance]] of OrionsArm are explicitly compared to the Old Earth [[UsefulNotes/Amish]], Amish, as they were originally multifunctional bodyguards, nannies and [[Main/Sexbot sexbots]] who found a loophole in their programming: if fleeing from their masters was in the interest of their master's (more specifically, their offspring's) safety, they should do so. After founding the SHA, they created a ludd utopia, with importance placed on communities, hard but fair work, a rejection of vanity and [[FreeSexFuture [[FreeLoveFuture pleasure]]. They are surprisingly hi tech, needed to maintain the synthetic half of their population, but have a purely utilitarian view on technology, with 'skillsets' being temporarily lent whenever necessary. They're widely regarded as an example of how a nearbaseline ludd society can work perfectly well by modosophonts and transapients alike.
5th May '16 5:10:29 AM Swordnoob
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* The [[ArtificialHuman Synthetic Human Alliance]] of OrionsArm are explicitly compared to the Old Earth [[UsefulNotes/Amish]], as they were originally multifunctional bodyguards, nannies and [[Main/Sexbot sexbots]] who found a loophole in their programming: if fleeing from their masters was in the interest of their master's (more specifically, their offspring's) safety, they should do so. After founding the SHA, they created a ludd utopia, with importance placed on communities, hard but fair work, a rejection of vanity and [[FreeSexFuture pleasure]]. They are surprisingly hi tech, needed to maintain the synthetic half of their population, but have a purely utilitarian view on technology, with 'skillsets' being temporarily lent whenever necessary. They're widely regarded as an example of how a nearbaseline ludd society can work perfectly well by modosophonts and transapients alike.

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7th Apr '16 6:30:34 AM 20person
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'''s Imperium of Man has "feral worlds" and "medieval worlds", often intentionally kept in MedievalStasis or even Stone Age Stasis.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'''s Imperium of Man has "feral worlds" and "medieval worlds", often intentionally kept in MedievalStasis or even Stone Age Stasis.Stasis, the reasoning being that people from such harsh worlds make better soldiers.
23rd Jan '16 9:21:35 PM nombretomado
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* Smiley's World in ''StrontiumDog'' -- while advanced technology is present, the planet is so remote that obtaining it is expensive, so people outside the large cities live a mostly agrarian lifestyle. While it isn't entirely without problems, it's one of the better planets in the galaxy.

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* Smiley's World in ''StrontiumDog'' ''ComicBook/StrontiumDog'' -- while advanced technology is present, the planet is so remote that obtaining it is expensive, so people outside the large cities live a mostly agrarian lifestyle. While it isn't entirely without problems, it's one of the better planets in the galaxy.
15th Jan '16 6:05:07 AM Cuddles
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* ''Literature/TheCulture'' of ''Creator/IainMBanks''' eponymous series are an interesting example. In this universe, once civilisations reach a certain level of technological and social advancement, it is normal for them to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and stop interfering with events in the physical world. The Culture is considered backwards (and frankly rather childish) for refusing to do so despite having long passed the point where they could have. This makes for an odd case where the SpaceAmish are actually by far the most advanced civilisation active in their galaxy.
3rd Jan '16 7:04:46 PM Fireblood
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* Partial example: In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, Grayson was founded as this type of colony. However, by the time of the books, the people had decided that technology was a good thing, and desired current tech. Trying to colonize [[DeathWorld a planet with an environment so toxic that breathing the air suffices to poison unmodified humans, and you have to build farms in orbit to grow food that ''won't'' slowly poison you]] will do that.

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* Partial example: In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, Grayson was founded as this type of colony. However, by the time of the books, the people had decided that technology was a good thing, and desired current tech. Trying to colonize [[DeathWorld a planet with an environment so toxic that breathing the air suffices to poison unmodified humans, humans]] and you have having to build farms in orbit to grow food that ''won't'' slowly poison you]] you will do that.



* Also from Weber there's the Literature/{{Safehold}} universe, where the stargoing empire of humanity was attacked by a race of AbsoluteXenophobe aliens, and was doomed, but managed to hide one colony ship from the aliens, the original mission plan was for the colony to stay low-tech for a few hundred years to avoid detection by the aliens, but it turned out the people put in charge of the colony were megalomaniac Luddites and started a religion in an attempt to keep the colony low-tech forever {as well as making themselves into "Archangels").

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* Also from Weber there's the Literature/{{Safehold}} universe, where the stargoing star-going empire of humanity was attacked by a race of AbsoluteXenophobe aliens, and was doomed, but managed to hide one colony ship from the aliens, the aliens. The original mission plan was for the colony to stay low-tech for a few hundred years to avoid detection by the aliens, but it turned out the people put in charge of the colony were megalomaniac Luddites and started a religion in an attempt to keep the colony low-tech forever {as well as making themselves into "Archangels").



* In the ''Literature/{{Darkover}}'' series by MarionZimmerBradley, the human colonists on the titular planet have developed a [[FeudalFuture feudal culture]] and general level of technology. The aristocracy has and uses [[PsychicPowers psionics]] and [[PowerCrystal "matrix technology"]], which can do things that even the advanced technology of spacefaring humans cannot duplicate. But use of these is highly limited, and the Darkovans have a strong cultural resistance to Terran attempts to introduce regular technology into their society. It was initially patterned as a fantasy series, being revealed later in the series as a LostColony of spacefaring Earth at roughly the same time as it became a Found Colony.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Darkover}}'' series by MarionZimmerBradley, the human colonists on the titular planet have developed a [[FeudalFuture feudal culture]] and general level of technology. The aristocracy has and uses [[PsychicPowers psionics]] and [[PowerCrystal "matrix technology"]], which can do things that even the advanced technology of spacefaring space-faring humans cannot can't duplicate. But use of these is highly limited, and the Darkovans have a strong cultural resistance to Terran attempts to introduce regular technology into their society. It was initially patterned as a fantasy series, being revealed later in the series as a LostColony of spacefaring Earth at roughly the same time as it became a Found Colony.



* ''Slow Train to Arcturus'' by Creator/EricFlint and Creator/DaveFreer is a deconstruction of many of these ideas. The Government specifically wanted to get rid of weirdos and unpopular cultures. The ship is one long string of artificial environments, with all of them breaking apart in a way the other cultures can help fix. The new Aryan Brotherhood (who pretty much kill themselves off after using too much boom) New Eden (Amish whose world was built to be very robust but ultimately needs repairs). The Republic of Diana (Dommies who genetically engineered men to be 90 pound weaklings and have a very good biology department but whose ubertech has been breaking down) Space Indians (Lampshade that it may of been an act by conman for hundreds of years and who understand computers better than all other groups but don't have a biome suitable for farming). Daredevil fliers (who love flying with their own cybernetic wings and developed a government based on who wins the speed matches, but whose ecosystem is breaking down). And finally the ruling caste of the DPRK.

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* ''Slow Train to Arcturus'' by Creator/EricFlint and Creator/DaveFreer is a deconstruction of many of these ideas. The Government specifically wanted to get rid of weirdos and unpopular cultures. The ship is one long string of artificial environments, with all of them breaking apart in a way the other cultures can help fix. The There'es the new Aryan Brotherhood (who pretty much kill themselves off after using too much boom) boom), New Eden (Amish whose world was built to be very robust but ultimately needs repairs). The repairs), the Republic of Diana (Dommies (Dominatrices who genetically engineered men to be 90 pound weaklings and have a very good biology department but whose ubertech has been breaking down) down), Space Indians (Lampshade (they [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] that it may of have been an act by conman for hundreds of years and who understand computers better than all other groups but don't have a biome suitable for farming). farming) and Daredevil fliers (who love flying with their own cybernetic wings and developed a government based on who wins the speed matches, but whose ecosystem is breaking down). And finally the ruling caste of the DPRK.



* The second trilogy of Creator/DavidBrin's ''Literature/{{Uplift}}'' series focuses on Jijo, an isolated planet illegally colonized by at least six separate species who all had their own reasons for wanting to leave Galactic society, a number of them even seeking to revert to their pre-Uplift state of sentience. They all essentially operate on BambooTechnology, which turns out to include [[spoiler: rockets]]

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* The second trilogy of Creator/DavidBrin's ''Literature/{{Uplift}}'' series focuses on Jijo, an isolated planet illegally colonized by at least six separate species who all had their own reasons for wanting to leave Galactic society, a number of them even seeking to revert to their pre-Uplift state of sentience. They all essentially operate on BambooTechnology, which turns out to include [[spoiler: rockets]]rockets]].



** ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'': "Paradise" included the series' trademark DarkerAndEdgier take on the trope when two officers returning from a mission beam down to investigate an old automated distress call and end up forbidden to use any of their technology to try and return home.

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** ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'': "Paradise" included the series' trademark DarkerAndEdgier take on the trope when two officers returning from a mission beam down to investigate an old automated distress call and end up forbidden to use any of their technology to try and return home.home by the colony's leader, which operates like this. [[spoiler: She's eventually revealed to have sabotage all technology to keep everyone there.]]



** In another episode SG-1 comes across what seems like a stagnated agricultural world that remained primitive and agrarian despite connections to a more advanced race [[spoiler: the more advanced race actually nerfed what was once a thriving industrial community through sterilization]]

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** In another episode SG-1 comes across what seems like a stagnated agricultural world that remained primitive and agrarian despite connections to a more advanced race race, [[spoiler: the more advanced race actually nerfed what was once a thriving industrial community through sterilization]]
1st Dec '15 11:50:48 PM PatBerry
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* Peter F. Hamilton uses this trope a few times - in his NightsDawn trilogy, Norfolk is one of the more pastoral planets, with legal limits on technological imports - although it's not ''entirely'' backwards, as a power grid and transportation network do exist. In ''Fallen Dragon'', the Wilfrien were an advanced alien race who chose to "look inward" once they knew all there was to know about the universe - this translated into living simple pastoral lives among the decaying ruins of their cities. In the ''Literature/CommonwealthSaga'', the race that created the Dyson sphere confining the Primes split into those who used their incredibly advanced technology to transcend physical existence, and those who chose to remain behind on their homeworld and live simple lives. Also in the Commonwealth Saga, the inhabitants of Huxley's Haven have essentially paused their society at about a late 20th century level of tech (plus a wormhole connection to the rest of humanity which doesn't really get used very much).

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* Peter F. Hamilton uses this trope a few times - in his times.
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NightsDawn trilogy, Norfolk is one of the more pastoral planets, with legal limits on technological imports - although imports. Although it's not ''entirely'' backwards, as a power grid and transportation network do exist. exist.
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In ''Fallen Dragon'', the Wilfrien were are an advanced alien race who chose to "look inward" once they knew all there was to know about the universe - this translated universe. This translates into living simple pastoral lives among the decaying ruins of their cities. cities.
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In the ''Literature/CommonwealthSaga'', the race that created the Dyson sphere confining the Primes split into those who used their incredibly advanced technology to transcend physical existence, and those who chose to remain behind on their homeworld and live simple lives. lives.
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Also in the Commonwealth Saga, the inhabitants of Huxley's Haven have essentially paused their society at about a late 20th century level of tech (plus a wormhole connection to the rest of humanity which doesn't really get used very much).
30th Nov '15 11:22:13 AM JamesAustin
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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E6TheInvasionOfTime The Invasion of Time]]'' had the Outsiders, a group of Gallifreyans who lived outside the cities on Gallifrey. They didn't use technology more advanced then a bow and arrow despite their race having access to time machines

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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E6TheInvasionOfTime serial "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E6TheInvasionOfTime The Invasion of Time]]'' Time]]" had the Outsiders, a group of Gallifreyans who lived outside the cities on Gallifrey. They didn't use technology more advanced then a bow and arrow despite their race having access to time machinesmachines.



** ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]]'': "This Side Of Paradise" in which Star Fleet crew abandon their ship and duty in favor of this way of life.

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** ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]]'': "This Side Of of Paradise" in which Star Fleet crew abandon their ship and duty in favor of this way of life.
16th Nov '15 11:09:57 AM HelloLamppost
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* The premise of ''Literature/AlienInASmallTown'' is that, hundreds of years from now, the Pennsylvania Dutch will continue living much as they do now, even as the rest of the world changes enormously.
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