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23rd Jun '17 6:04:42 AM AmuckCricetine
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* Michaels actually had to learn a lot of lessons, especially given his penchant for AesopAmnesia. Just a few months after the Jericho incident, his family lost all its money in unsound investments (this was the autumn of 2008, remember) and he [[WrestlingDoesntPay desperately needed a second job]]. JohnBradshawLayfield [[FauxAffablyEvil "generously"]] took Michaels on as an employee, only to force him to compromise all his integrity by repeatedly helping JBL cheat to win the World Heavyweight Championship. At one point, none other than TheUndertaker confronted Michaels about this, warning that [[EarnYourHappyEnding "Sometimes it's hell getting to heaven."]] Rarely have truer words about the basic human condition (even if that human ''is'' a Superstar) been spoken.

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* Michaels actually had to learn a lot of lessons, especially given his penchant for AesopAmnesia. Just a few months after the Jericho incident, his family lost all its money in unsound investments (this was the autumn of 2008, remember) and he [[WrestlingDoesntPay desperately needed a second job]]. JohnBradshawLayfield Wrestling/JohnBradshawLayfield [[FauxAffablyEvil "generously"]] took Michaels on as an employee, only to force him to compromise all his integrity by repeatedly helping JBL cheat to win the World Heavyweight Championship. At one point, none other than TheUndertaker confronted Michaels about this, warning that [[EarnYourHappyEnding "Sometimes it's hell getting to heaven."]] Rarely have truer words about the basic human condition (even if that human ''is'' a Superstar) been spoken.



* ''TheBrewingNetwork'''s Justin's explanation why he thinks people who try to get away with drunk driving are stupid. He went through his past, explaining his experiences, and drove home over and over that he has no respect for anyone who drunk drives and will call out anyone who tries. Given that the BN has a lot of heavy drinkers as its listeners, it was a good way of making a point of the sort of behavior that the BN tolerates. Justin makes a point of having their Winterfest near public transport and letting designated drivers in free for this reason.

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* ''TheBrewingNetwork'''s ''Radio/TheBrewingNetwork'''s Justin's explanation why he thinks people who try to get away with drunk driving are stupid. He went through his past, explaining his experiences, and drove home over and over that he has no respect for anyone who drunk drives and will call out anyone who tries. Given that the BN has a lot of heavy drinkers as its listeners, it was a good way of making a point of the sort of behavior that the BN tolerates. Justin makes a point of having their Winterfest near public transport and letting designated drivers in free for this reason.
11th Jun '17 2:00:08 PM nombretomado
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* One episode of ''Monday Night Raw'' leading up to ''Unforgiven'' in September 2008 had Wrestling/ShawnMichaels drop an anvil that might, from some angles, appear a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, but that is one that countless [[WideEyedIdealist Wide-Eyed Idealists]] out there desperately need to accept if they're ever going to get on with their lives. After Wrestling/ChrisJericho had smashed Shawn's head into a video screen and repeatedly jabbed him in the eye, half-blinding him and nearly ending his career, and then punched his wife Rebecca in the mouth and temporarily disfigured her - ''and'' had [[NeverMyFault refused to apologize for any of this]], claiming that Michaels had it all coming to him - Michaels asserted that some people are so wicked that they cannot possibly be forgiven, nor ever even want to be. And you can't just ignore them, because then they'll just keep going out to hurt countless more people; sometimes you ''must'' seek swift justice, severely punishing or even destroying a menacing human being. Of course, with Jericho's and Michaels's feud reaching its climax with the "Unsanctioned Match" at ''Unforgiven'' (in which both combatants relieved World Wrestling Entertainment from all legal responsibility for what they would do to each other), {{WWE}} [[BrokenAesop attempted to have it both ways]], having Michaels snap and beat Jericho unconscious, and then ''[[WhatTheHellHero continue]]'' to assault him even after it had become clear Jericho could no longer defend himself, until Michaels [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone finally managed to experience some remorse]]. Not to mention Jericho's appearance on ''Raw'' the night afterward, stripping down to show the still-unhealed welts on his upper torso where Michaels had [[ATasteOfTheLash thrashed him repeatedly with a strap]] and [[SarcasmMode "questioning"]] how a born-again Christian like Michaels [[JerkassHasAPoint could do such things]].

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* One episode of ''Monday Night Raw'' leading up to ''Unforgiven'' in September 2008 had Wrestling/ShawnMichaels drop an anvil that might, from some angles, appear a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, but that is one that countless [[WideEyedIdealist Wide-Eyed Idealists]] out there desperately need to accept if they're ever going to get on with their lives. After Wrestling/ChrisJericho had smashed Shawn's head into a video screen and repeatedly jabbed him in the eye, half-blinding him and nearly ending his career, and then punched his wife Rebecca in the mouth and temporarily disfigured her - ''and'' had [[NeverMyFault refused to apologize for any of this]], claiming that Michaels had it all coming to him - Michaels asserted that some people are so wicked that they cannot possibly be forgiven, nor ever even want to be. And you can't just ignore them, because then they'll just keep going out to hurt countless more people; sometimes you ''must'' seek swift justice, severely punishing or even destroying a menacing human being. Of course, with Jericho's and Michaels's feud reaching its climax with the "Unsanctioned Match" at ''Unforgiven'' (in which both combatants relieved World Wrestling Entertainment from all legal responsibility for what they would do to each other), {{WWE}} Wrestling/{{WWE}} [[BrokenAesop attempted to have it both ways]], having Michaels snap and beat Jericho unconscious, and then ''[[WhatTheHellHero continue]]'' to assault him even after it had become clear Jericho could no longer defend himself, until Michaels [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone finally managed to experience some remorse]]. Not to mention Jericho's appearance on ''Raw'' the night afterward, stripping down to show the still-unhealed welts on his upper torso where Michaels had [[ATasteOfTheLash thrashed him repeatedly with a strap]] and [[SarcasmMode "questioning"]] how a born-again Christian like Michaels [[JerkassHasAPoint could do such things]].
9th Jun '17 9:10:48 PM nombretomado
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* The WhateleyUniverse is chock full of these, since the stories revolve around ideas like tolerance for people who are different. They're mutants. But most of the protagonists are also {{Transgender}} or otherwise [=LGBTQI=], so there's less of a SpaceWhaleAesop than usual. Several of the main characters, like Phase and Diamondback, have been treated horrifically ''by their own families'' since they 'came out' - as mutants.

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* The WhateleyUniverse Literature/WhateleyUniverse is chock full of these, since the stories revolve around ideas like tolerance for people who are different. They're mutants. But most of the protagonists are also {{Transgender}} or otherwise [=LGBTQI=], so there's less of a SpaceWhaleAesop than usual. Several of the main characters, like Phase and Diamondback, have been treated horrifically ''by their own families'' since they 'came out' - as mutants.
7th Jun '17 6:21:23 AM redandready45
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* ''FanFic/HerInnerDemons'' drops a serious message that [[DidYouThinkICantFeel the meek girl in the corner does have feelings too]], and bullying them can turn [[BewareTheQuietOnes them vengeful and angry]]. The Shadowbolts couldn't believe Sci-Twilight [[spoiler: could become Midnight Sparkle]] and are abashed when explains that she was becoming increasingly ''vindictive'' well before the Friendship Games, and that the Shadowbolts only made things worse.

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* ''FanFic/HerInnerDemons'' drops a serious message that [[DidYouThinkICantFeel the meek girl in the corner does have feelings too]], and bullying them can turn [[BewareTheQuietOnes them vengeful and angry]]. The Shadowbolts couldn't believe Sci-Twilight [[spoiler: could become Midnight Sparkle]] and are abashed when explains that she was becoming increasingly ''vindictive'' well before vindictive ''well before'' the Friendship Games, Games due to all the abuse, and that the Shadowbolts only made things worse.worse to the point where [[spoiler: she became as power hungry as Sunset was, and thus could be swayed by the dark side of her mind into becoming Midnight Sparkle]].
7th Jun '17 6:17:58 AM redandready45
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* ''FanFic/HerInnerDemons'' drops a serious message that [[DidYouThinkICantFeel the meek girl in the corner does have feelings too]], and bullying them can turn [[BewareTheQuietOnes them vengeful and angry]]. The Shadowbolts couldn't believe Sci-Twilight [[spoiler: could become Midnight Sparkle]] and are abashed when explains that she was becoming increasingly ''vindictive'' well before the Friendship Games, and that the Shadowbolts only made things worse.
5th Jun '17 9:18:38 PM PsychoNormal91
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** His review of ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' has the message that even good directors and writers will create bad stuff sometimes, and that part of being a creator is taking risks, even if they don't always pay off. Those creators shouldn't be glorified as [[SacredCow someone who can do no wrong]], nor should they be reduced to the [[ButtMonkey punchline of a joke]] because of [[NeverLiveItDown one flop in a career full of successes]].
5th Jun '17 10:18:43 AM KizunaTallis
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* In the review of ''Athena #1'', [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] went on a rant about how a guy can dislike the exploitation of women in comic books (and any other form of media) and not be [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat gay]], hate women's bodies, a prude, or an overzealous moral guardian. Moreover, the rant itself is a very well articulated speech decrying how female characters ''are'' [[MaleGaze being]] [[{{Fanservice}} objectified]] for the shallowest of reasons.

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In the review of ''Athena #1'', [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] went on a rant about how Linkara states that a guy can dislike the exploitation of women in comic books (and any other form of media) and not be [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat gay]], gay]] (while still being respectful of LGBT people), hate women's bodies, a prude, or an overzealous moral guardian. Moreover, the rant itself is a very well articulated speech decrying how female characters ''are'' [[MaleGaze being]] pointlessly [[{{Fanservice}} objectified]] for the shallowest of reasons.objectified]].



** Even more awesomely, he did it while still being respectful of LGBT people.
** Another moment was in his triumphant speech to the Entity, who wishes to absorb all of existence into itself. Linkara points out that by destroying everything, the Entity will be left with nothing ("No Heaven to aspire to, no Hell to avoid") and thus render itself completely meaningless and utterly ''bored.'' In other words: endless destruction and subjugation is a flawed and overrated goal, especially if you [[AndThenWhat don't know what you'll do after that.]]

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** Even more awesomely, he did it while still being respectful At the end of LGBT people.
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his review of ''Pokemon: The Electric Tale of Pikachu'', he delivers a [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath triumphant speech speech]] to the Entity, [[EldritchAbomination Entity]], who wishes to absorb all of existence into itself. Linkara points out that by destroying everything, the Entity will be left with nothing ''nothing'' ("No Heaven to aspire to, no Hell to avoid") avoid.") and thus render itself completely meaningless and utterly ''bored.'' In other words: endless destruction and subjugation is a flawed and overrated goal, especially if you [[AndThenWhat don't know what you'll do after that.]]



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* [[FamiliarFaces CR's]] character look at [[ComicBook/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac Anne Gwish]] and how subcultures like goth [[DarkIsNotEvil aren't bad]], it's just conceited jerks like her who ruin it for everyone else.

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* [[FamiliarFaces [[WebVideo/FamiliarFaces CR's]] character look at [[ComicBook/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac Anne Gwish]] and how subcultures like goth [[DarkIsNotEvil aren't bad]], it's just conceited jerks like her who ruin it for everyone else.



** For his [[{{WesternAnimation/Duckman}} "Top 11 Fluffy and Uranus Eviscirations"]], you can't pussify society. It's alright to hear "Respect others" and "Take care of yourselves and the environment" but its wrong to hear it 24/7. How someone crass can raise above a baser instinct and want to change something or say something straight from the heart, that is far greater than something [[TastesLikeDiabetes sugar-coated.]] When they say something, it may be snarly and innappropriate, but it can be [[BrutalHonesty honest]]. When they sweeten it, its dishonest and insulting.

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** For his [[{{WesternAnimation/Duckman}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Duckman}} "Top 11 Fluffy and Uranus Eviscirations"]], you can't pussify society. It's alright to hear "Respect others" and "Take care of yourselves and the environment" but its wrong to hear it 24/7. How someone crass can raise above a baser instinct and want to change something or say something straight from the heart, that is far greater than something [[TastesLikeDiabetes sugar-coated.]] When they say something, it may be snarly and innappropriate, but it can be [[BrutalHonesty honest]]. When they sweeten it, its dishonest and insulting.



** While the second season dropped one on how making all heroes DarkerAndEdgier is bad, since first, some heroes, it just will never work for, and second, that without the LighterAndSofter heroes to contrast to, darker and edgier loses its meaning.

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** While the second season dropped one on how making all heroes DarkerAndEdgier is bad, since first, for some heroes, it just will never work for, work, and second, that without the LighterAndSofter heroes to contrast to, darker and edgier loses its meaning.



* [[WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown Film Brain]] pointed out in his ''Film/BrideWars'' review that far from being fat, Kate Hudson's character in it would look ''healthy'' if she gained five pounds. There was also the commentary for ''Film/SevenPounds'', in which Film Brain continues to go on about how horrible it is that suicide is glorified as the ultimate sacrifice, when Will Smith's character had a fantastic education and could have done so much more to help others if he didn't martyr himself.
** In the same film, he snarks about one of the characters doesn't allow her dog to eat meat. ("Ya! Animals don't eat meat in the wild ''beat'' wait") Not to mention that most vets will very specifically advise you ''against'' doing this, so it's also a case of ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare.
** Another example is in his review of ''The Condemned'', where he ''eviscerates'' the movie for its hypocritical moralizing about media violence. He drops the anvils that "media violence is not the same as real violence", and "if children are exposed to stuff that's not suitable for them, it's usually the fault of their parents/guardians".

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Film Brain]] pointed Brain points out in his ''Film/BrideWars'' review that far from being fat, [[HollywoodPudgy fat]], Kate Hudson's character in it would look ''healthy'' if she gained five pounds. There was also pounds.
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the review and commentary for ''Film/SevenPounds'', in which Film Brain continues to go on does not mince words his disgust and rage about how horrible it is that suicide is glorified as the ultimate sacrifice, when Will Smith's the main character had a fantastic education and could have done so much more to help others if he didn't martyr himself.
** *** In the same film, he snarks about one of the characters doesn't allow her dog to eat meat. ("Ya! Animals don't eat meat in the wild ''beat'' wait") wild... ''{{beat}}'' wait.") Not to mention that most vets will very specifically advise you ''against'' doing this, so it's also a case of ArtisticLicenseAnimalCare.
** Another example is in In his review of ''The Condemned'', where he ''eviscerates'' the movie for its hypocritical moralizing about media violence. He drops the anvils that "media violence is not the same as real violence", and "if children are exposed to stuff that's not suitable for them, it's usually the fault of their parents/guardians".



* If an innocent child is getting mistreated in a movie, WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic will more often than stop the review for a long rant about it. [[PapaWolf Nice enough]], but then you remember that the character is supposed to have been badly abused as a kid. It's almost poignant in a sense.
** In his ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfTheTitanic'' review, he makes it clear, several times, that what the film did (''outright deny'' the deaths of hundreds of people in favor of a "SAVE THE WHALES" aesop) is completely disrespectful to those who were related to those who died on the ''Titanic''.

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* WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic
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If an innocent child is getting mistreated in a movie, WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic he will more often than not stop the review for a long rant about it. [[PapaWolf Nice enough]], but then you remember that the character is supposed to have been badly abused as a kid. It's almost poignant in a sense.
** In his ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfTheTitanic'' review, he makes it clear, several times, that what the film did (''outright deny'' the deaths of hundreds of people in favor of a "SAVE THE WHALES" aesop) is completely disrespectful to those who were related to those who died on the ''Titanic''.



** His review of ''TheCatInTheHat'' has the message that market research is not the be-all and end-all of entertainment. The masses don't always know what they want and if studios keep pandering to their comfort zones, then they never will.

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** His review of ''TheCatInTheHat'' ''Film/TheCatInTheHat'' has the message that market research is not the be-all and end-all of entertainment. The masses don't always know what they want and if studios keep pandering to their comfort zones, then they never will.



* WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows has a few of these

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* WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows has a few of these these.
4th Jun '17 3:12:26 PM Yinyang107
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* LetsPlay/ZoeyProasheck, for her usually family-friendly content, has a fair number of anvils to drop. Mental health can affect you even from a young age, thus it is important to talk about it and not sweep it under the rug. Most importantly, [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre you are awesome and matter to the world]].

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* LetsPlay/ZoeyProasheck, for her usually family-friendly content, has a fair number of anvils to drop. Mental health can affect you even from a young age, thus it is important to talk about it and not sweep it under the rug. It is okay if you are LGBTQ. Most importantly, [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre you are awesome and matter to the world]].


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* The (only available online) ''[[http://www.plaidder.com/wof/ Women on Fire]]'' novels had a ''lot'' of problems with AuthorTract and general [[{{Anvilicious}} Anviliciousness]], especially in the later books, but there is one anvil in ''Taken Child'' that can't possibly be dropped hard enough: Sexual orientation is not something that can be changed, and attempts by parents to "fix" a gay child can and will tear the family apart.
29th May '17 1:30:53 PM Divra
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** ComicBook/StrontiumDog deals with racism against mutants about as subtly as Wulf Stenhammer swings [[ICallItVera Der Happy Stick]], but considering that apartheid was still in full force, it was probably necessary.
28th May '17 4:32:56 PM nombretomado
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* WarrenEllis is big on these.

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* WarrenEllis Creator/WarrenEllis is big on these.
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