History Main / SoldiersAtTheRear

13th Feb '17 8:04:42 AM Hanz
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* [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas NCR Soldiers]] garrisoned at the Mojave Outpost don't see any real fighting, and won't unless [[TheHorde Caesar's Legion]] decide to push west.

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* [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas NCR Soldiers]] garrisoned at the Mojave Outpost don't see any real fighting, and won't unless [[TheHorde Caesar's Legion]] decide to push west.
west. Pointdexter of The Misfits specifically joined the military with the goal of obtaining with a cushy desk job while performing as little as possible.
4th Feb '17 12:28:32 PM TairaMai
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* An inversion: one episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' dealt with Riker being offered his own command. He turned it down because the ships offered were in areas of space that were less likely to see action. He also noted that being the executive officer on the flagship ''Enterprise'' was superior in terms of prestige to being captain of ''any'' other ship.

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* An inversion: one episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' dealt with Riker being [[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E14TheIcarusFactor}} offered his own command.command]]. He turned it down because the ships offered were in areas of space that were less likely to see action. He also noted that being the executive officer on the flagship ''Enterprise'' was superior in terms of prestige to being captain of ''any'' other ship.
1st Dec '16 9:00:34 AM SSJMagus
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It's worth noting that being a REMF in an unconventional conflict might be almost impossible, since by definition there isn't a rear-echelon once you're in the theatre, and someone whose job normally isn't anywhere near combat might find themselves under fire or IED attack at any time, such as in places like Afghanistan.

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It's worth noting that being a REMF in an unconventional conflict might be almost impossible, since by definition there isn't a rear-echelon once you're in the theatre, and someone whose job normally isn't anywhere near combat might find themselves under fire or IED attack at any time, such as in places like Afghanistan.
Afghanistan. For soldiers deployed to Iraq, "REMF" generally got reserved for the personnel stationed in Kuwait and Qatar.
1st Dec '16 4:01:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* Despite becoming later becoming a {{Badass}} mercenary, Jon Sable of ''ComicBook/JonSableFreelance'' spent his tour of duty during the VietnamWar as a clerk/typist in an intelligence unit.

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* Despite becoming later becoming a {{Badass}} badass mercenary, Jon Sable of ''ComicBook/JonSableFreelance'' spent his tour of duty during the VietnamWar as a clerk/typist in an intelligence unit.
31st Oct '16 8:34:44 PM Drgonzo
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The story in RealLife is, naturally, different. The military is a big organization, and a lot of necessary jobs don't involve getting immediately shot at by random [INSERT BAD GUY HERE]'s. In fact, in modern armed forces, there's roughly 10-15 [=REMFs=] working in support for every soldier actually pulling a trigger at the front. This doesn't mean the REMF isn't resented, mind you, he's still a REMF who isn't deep in the shit at the moment - though many frontline grunts won't care and still hold grudges.

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The story in RealLife is, naturally, different. The military is a big organization, and a lot of necessary jobs don't involve getting immediately shot at by random [INSERT BAD GUY HERE]'s. In fact, in modern armed forces, there's roughly 10-15 [=REMFs=] working in support for every soldier actually pulling a trigger at the front. This doesn't mean the REMF isn't resented, mind you, he's still a REMF who isn't deep in the shit at the moment - though many frontline grunts won't care and still hold grudges.
grudges. There is one and precisely ''one'' universal exception: Medical personnel. Doctors and nurses may never see direct combat, but rare indeed is the front line grunt who will speak ill of the people who stitch them or their buddies back together if things go wrong.
25th Oct '16 4:51:25 AM morane
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* In Finnish army, these people are known as ''töpinä'' (thumping) as they are seen nowhere, only thumping of their shoes is heard. Another word is ''kumipää'' (rubberhead) for "rubber bullet" as TheFoil for "live bullet" grunts.

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* In Finnish army, these people are known as ''töpinä'' (thumping) as they are seen nowhere, only thumping of their shoes is heard. Another word is ''kumipää'' (rubberhead) for "rubber bullet" as TheFoil {{Main/Foil}} for "live bullet" grunts.
25th Oct '16 4:48:20 AM morane
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* In Finnish army, these people are known as '''töpinä'' (thumping) as they are seen nowhere, only thumping of their shoes is heard.

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* In Finnish army, these people are known as '''töpinä'' ''töpinä'' (thumping) as they are seen nowhere, only thumping of their shoes is heard.heard. Another word is ''kumipää'' (rubberhead) for "rubber bullet" as TheFoil for "live bullet" grunts.
25th Aug '16 6:17:46 AM Khathi
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* In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn'' [[TheCaptain Captain]] Otto Midas is a rare positive example, though he technically ''isn't'' a REMF anymore at the time, being assigned to the frontlines and thus becoming something of a ModernMajorGeneral. Still he's AFatherToHisMen and, being [[BadassBureaucrat a skilled desk pilot]], he knows his strengths and limitations, steadfastely standing by his crew.
11th Aug '16 6:25:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* Subverted with Lawrence Waterhouse in ''{{Cryptonomicon}}''. Initially he finds himself assigned to a marching band, but that doesn't stop him from being present on one of the ships sunk in the Pearl Harbor attack. After reasignment it's discovered that he is a cryptography prodigy and therefore one of the most valuable assets in the whole second world war, and the military spares no effort to keep him as far from danger as possible. And yet, at one point he still ends up on a dangerous enigma machine recovery mission, because the remote listening station where he is stationed at that point holds the only unit close enough to an enemy submarine in trouble.
* Commissar Blenner from ''GauntsGhosts'' aspires to be such an officer, and he spends decades of his career in rear-echelon garrison positions (not entirely without merit -- while he's something of a NonActionGuy, his [[BunnyEarsLawyer skill with morale and managing the common soldiery]] is very real). Naturally this gets a lot tougher when he signs on with the Ghosts. In ''Salvation's Reach'', he unofficially places himself in charge of a detachment of the regiments' less combat-worthy elements, including their brand-new colors band, which nobody, himself included, wants to see in combat. They end up driving and escorting supply trucks up to the Ghosts' lines, which he explicitly points out is a way to make them feel useful without getting the lot of them killed.

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* Subverted with Lawrence Waterhouse in ''{{Cryptonomicon}}''.''Literature/{{Cryptonomicon}}''. Initially he finds himself assigned to a marching band, but that doesn't stop him from being present on one of the ships sunk in the Pearl Harbor attack. After reasignment it's discovered that he is a cryptography prodigy and therefore one of the most valuable assets in the whole second world war, and the military spares no effort to keep him as far from danger as possible. And yet, at one point he still ends up on a dangerous enigma machine recovery mission, because the remote listening station where he is stationed at that point holds the only unit close enough to an enemy submarine in trouble.
* Commissar Blenner from ''GauntsGhosts'' ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'' aspires to be such an officer, and he spends decades of his career in rear-echelon garrison positions (not entirely without merit -- while he's something of a NonActionGuy, his [[BunnyEarsLawyer skill with morale and managing the common soldiery]] is very real). Naturally this gets a lot tougher when he signs on with the Ghosts. In ''Salvation's Reach'', he unofficially places himself in charge of a detachment of the regiments' less combat-worthy elements, including their brand-new colors band, which nobody, himself included, wants to see in combat. They end up driving and escorting supply trucks up to the Ghosts' lines, which he explicitly points out is a way to make them feel useful without getting the lot of them killed.



-->''If foot soldiers in Vietnam have a single obsession, it�s the gnawing, tantalizing hope of being assigned to a job in the rear. Anything to yank a man out of the field � loading helicopters or burning trash or washing the colonel�s laundry. [...] Except for one or two of them, the men in Alpha Company were quietly, flippantly desperate for a rear job. The desperation was there all the time. Walking along under the sun, pulling watch at night, waiting for resupply, writing love letters � we thought and talked about all the rear jobs waiting back there. We were not all cowards. But we were not committed, not resigned, to having to win a war.''

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-->''If foot soldiers in Vietnam have a single obsession, it�s it's the gnawing, tantalizing hope of being assigned to a job in the rear. Anything to yank a man out of the field -- loading helicopters or burning trash or washing the colonel�s colonel's laundry. [...] Except for one or two of them, the men in Alpha Company were quietly, flippantly desperate for a rear job. The desperation was there all the time. Walking along under the sun, pulling watch at night, waiting for resupply, writing love letters -- we thought and talked about all the rear jobs waiting back there. We were not all cowards. But we were not committed, not resigned, to having to win a war.''
11th Aug '16 6:24:27 AM Morgenthaler
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-->''If foot soldiers in Vietnam have a single obsession, itís the gnawing, tantalizing hope of being assigned to a job in the rear. Anything to yank a man out of the field ó loading helicopters or burning trash or washing the colonelís laundry. [...] Except for one or two of them, the men in Alpha Company were quietly, flippantly desperate for a rear job. The desperation was there all the time. Walking along under the sun, pulling watch at night, waiting for resupply, writing love letters ó we thought and talked about all the rear jobs waiting back there. We were not all cowards. But we were not committed, not resigned, to having to win a war.''

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-->''If foot soldiers in Vietnam have a single obsession, itís it�s the gnawing, tantalizing hope of being assigned to a job in the rear. Anything to yank a man out of the field ó loading helicopters or burning trash or washing the colonelís colonel�s laundry. [...] Except for one or two of them, the men in Alpha Company were quietly, flippantly desperate for a rear job. The desperation was there all the time. Walking along under the sun, pulling watch at night, waiting for resupply, writing love letters ó we thought and talked about all the rear jobs waiting back there. We were not all cowards. But we were not committed, not resigned, to having to win a war.''



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* ''ComicStrip/TerryAndThePirates'' had a famous strip in which Terry, having just gotten his fighter wings, is given a speech by his instructor who makes it clear that he expects Terry to treat his support crew like the supply pilots and mechanics with respect.

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* In Finnish army, these people are known as '''töpinä'' (thumping) as they are seen nowhere, only thumping of their shoes is heard.
* In Swedish, the common term is ''kasernjägare''. ''Jägare'' literally means "hunter", but is used to denote units with special forces training (it is usually translated to "ranger"). In the Swedish armed forces, "jägare" are defined by their primary area of operations and/or their preferred way of fighting, for example "fjälljägare" (mountains) or "fallskärmsjägare" (parachute trained). ''Kasern'' means "barracks". Compare the English term "Chairborne Ranger".

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* In Finnish army, these people are known as '''töpinä'' (thumping) as they are seen nowhere, only thumping of their shoes is heard.
* In Swedish, the common term is ''kasernjägare''. ''Jägare'' literally means "hunter", but is used to denote units with special forces training (it is usually translated to "ranger"). In the Swedish armed forces, "jägare" are defined by their primary area of operations and/or their preferred way of fighting, for example "fjälljägare" (mountains) or "fallskärmsjägare" (parachute trained). ''Kasern'' means "barracks". Compare the English term "Chairborne Ranger".

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