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20th Apr '17 8:01:37 AM infernape612
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* ''VideoGame/BravelyDefaultFlyingFairy'': Just before the fight with [[spoiler:RedMage Fiore De Rosa]], it is established that he uses pheromones [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything to make women do what he wants, with them remembering none of it afterwards.]] Edea was captured just prior to this. Appropriately, she begins the battle with Charm status, and will attack the party instead of him.

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* ''VideoGame/BravelyDefaultFlyingFairy'': ''VideoGame/BravelyDefault'': Just before the fight with [[spoiler:RedMage Fiore De Rosa]], it is established that he uses pheromones [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything to make women do what he wants, with them remembering none of it afterwards.]] Edea was captured just prior to this. Appropriately, she begins the battle with Charm status, and will attack the party instead of him.
* In ''VideoGame/BravelySecond'', [[spoiler:Altair occasionally possesses Tiz to provide aid to the party.]] When this happens during a battle, Tiz's special quotes change to reflect this.
20th Apr '17 7:59:15 AM infernape612
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', Confidants generally give you a boost to Personas of the same arcana when you fuse them and a whole bunch of other character-specific bonuses. Prosecutor Sae Nijima, the woman interrogating you in the frame story, is added to your Confidants list in early July; however, since you didn't properly meet her until October, she provides nothing for you until you catch up to the interrogation.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', Confidants generally give you a boost to Personas of the same arcana when you fuse them and a whole bunch of other character-specific bonuses. Prosecutor Sae Nijima, the woman interrogating you in the frame story, is added to your Confidants list in early July; however, since you didn't properly meet her until October, November, she provides nothing diddly-squat for you until you catch up to the interrogation.
18th Apr '17 12:13:52 AM RacattackForce
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* Both ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' make use of this through the "Squid Research Lab", a group of human scientists ([[AfterTheEnd and probably the only humans]]) who are dedicated to analyzing the behavior of the Inklings, a species of humanoid squid. Their findings, which serve as the promotional materials for the games, explain everything from why [[CavemenVsAstronautsDebate Splatfests]] can occasionally correlate to present-day pop culture[[note]]Humans' arguments were transmitted into space thousands of years ago via radio waves, were reflected back to Earth thanks to various space debris, and are received by the Inkling's current technology[[/note]] to why your Inkling is fighting mutant salmon on a desolate island in [[MultiMookMelee Horde Mode]][[note]]It's a part-time job you got at a large-scale cannery[[/note]] to even why you can't swim in water[[note]]You're an [=INKling=]: [[CaptainObvious you're made of water-soluble ink]][[/note]].

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* Both ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' make use of this through the "Squid Research Lab", a group of human scientists ([[AfterTheEnd and probably the only humans]]) who are dedicated to analyzing the behavior of the Inklings, a species of humanoid squid. Their findings, which serve as the promotional materials for the games, explain everything from why [[CavemenVsAstronautsDebate Splatfests]] can occasionally correlate to present-day pop culture[[note]]Humans' arguments were transmitted into space thousands of years ago via radio waves, were reflected back to Earth thanks to various space debris, and are received by the Inkling's current technology[[/note]] to why your Inkling is fighting mutant salmon on a desolate island in [[MultiMookMelee Horde Mode]][[note]]It's a part-time job you got at a large-scale cannery[[/note]] to even [[SuperDrowningSkills why you can't swim in water[[note]]You're water]] despite being an aquatic creature[[note]]You're an [=INKling=]: [[CaptainObvious you're made of water-soluble ink]][[/note]].
14th Apr '17 12:58:53 PM 32_Footsteps
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* ''VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes'' as a whole is an interesting example: even though Travis imagines his life as an assassin to be awesome and glamorous, nearly every portion of gameplay outside of the ranked battles shows just how much of a loser he is by being outright ''boring'': Santa Destroy is a frustratingly boring place with nearly nothing to do; Travis has to drive everywhere himself; he barely bothers people he runs over on his motorcycle and goes flying if it even so much as touches any solid object; he has to do repetitive, boring and irrelevant jobs in order to earn money; he saves the game on the ''toilet''; he rummages through dumpsters for collectables (including clothes!); and at the end of the day he ends up right back at the same stinking motel he's always lived at.



* ''VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes'' as a whole is an interesting example: even though Travis imagines his life as an assassin to be awesome and glamorous, nearly every portion of gameplay outside of the ranked battles shows just how much of a loser he is by being outright ''boring'': Santa Destroy is a frustratingly boring place with nearly nothing to do; Travis has to drive everywhere himself; he barely bothers people he runs over on his motorcycle and goes flying if it even so much as touches any solid object; he has to do repetitive, boring and irrelevant jobs in order to earn money; he saves the game on the ''toilet''; he rummages through dumpsters for collectables (including clothes!); and at the end of the day he ends up right back at the same stinking motel he's always lived at.


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* In the DotHackR1Games, Helba is repeatedly said to be an expert hacker (who remains free in a setting where hacking is a capital offense). She becomes a sort of BraggingRightsReward after the fourth game is beaten, and she's got completely maxed out stats, something that's completely impossible for any other character. She literally hacked her own character to make herself invincible.
13th Apr '17 10:05:17 PM infernape612
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* A rather funny, though subtle example occurs in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. [[TheWoobie Yosuke]] is incredibly unlucky, with him getting kicked in [[GroinAttack the nads]] within minutes of the game starting for breaking his friend's CD. He ends up falling off of, and crashing whilst on, his bike BEFORE he's even named, and to top it all off, [[spoiler: his crush gets killed very early on]]. If you check his stat profile, you'll notice that he has [[LampshadeHanging the lowest Luck stat of any of your party members]].
** A similar, but darker example occurs in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. [[Tagalongkid Ken]] has one of the highest luck stats in the game… [[spoiler: …and manages to survive both the accident that killed his mother two years prior, but another direct attempt on his life later in the game, with [[TheAtoner Shinjiro]] taking a bullet for him. Shinji, for his part, has a very low luck stat…]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'':
** How you defeat the FinalBoss: [[spoiler:You [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice yourself]] to seal it away, represented in the battle system by the Great Seal skill. Look at the HP cost for Great Seal; sure enough, it costs all of your [[CastFromHitPoints HP]].]]
** When Junpei's Persona evolves, it does so by [[spoiler:merging with Chidori's, after Chidori uses the last of her life force to heal Junpei's gunshot wound. After that, he regenerates hit points every turn, to reflect the influence of her healing powers.]]
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A rather funny, though subtle example example: [[TagalongKid Ken]] has one of the highest luck stats in the game… [[spoiler: …and manages to survive both the accident that killed his mother two years prior, and another direct attempt on his life later in the game, with [[TheAtoner Shinjiro]] taking a bullet for him. Shinji, for his part, has a very low luck stat…]]
* A similar effect
occurs in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''.4}}'', but PlayedForLaughs this time. [[TheWoobie Yosuke]] is incredibly unlucky, with him getting kicked in [[GroinAttack the nads]] within minutes of the game starting for breaking his friend's CD. He ends up falling off of, and crashing whilst on, his bike BEFORE he's even named, and to top it all off, [[spoiler: his crush gets killed very early on]]. If you check his stat profile, you'll notice that he has [[LampshadeHanging the lowest Luck stat of any of your party members]].
** A similar, but darker example occurs in * In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. [[Tagalongkid Ken]] has one 5}}'', Confidants generally give you a boost to Personas of the highest luck stats same arcana when you fuse them and a whole bunch of other character-specific bonuses. Prosecutor Sae Nijima, the woman interrogating you in the game… [[spoiler: …and manages frame story, is added to survive both your Confidants list in early July; however, since you didn't properly meet her until October, she provides nothing for you until you catch up to the accident that killed his mother two years prior, but another direct attempt on his life later in the game, with [[TheAtoner Shinjiro]] taking a bullet for him. Shinji, for his part, has a very low luck stat…]]interrogation.



* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'':
** How you defeat the FinalBoss: [[spoiler:You [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice yourself]] to seal it away, represented in the battle system by the Great Seal skill. Look at the HP cost for Great Seal; sure enough, it costs all of your [[CastFromHitPoints HP]].]]
** When Junpei's Persona evolves, it does so by [[spoiler:merging with Chidori's, after Chidori uses the last of her life force to heal Junpei's gunshot wound. After that, he regenerates hit points every turn, to reflect the influence of her healing powers.]]
12th Apr '17 7:11:20 PM RacattackForce
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* Traditionally, Link in ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' begins the game with only three hearts. The Link in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' is an exception; he starts out with a full six. That's because ''this'' [[LegacyCharacter incarnation of Link]] has been explicitly training as a knight. He's more physically fit and has more stamina than the other Links. This also applies to VideoGame/HyruleWarriors to a degree where Link is a soldier in the Hyrulean army and starts off with 10 hearts, but so does everyone else, even [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Agitha]] whose defining feature is and combat abilities revolve around the motif "likes bugs a LOT". Furthermore, everyone can currently get up to 40 hearts, double the amount normally available in any other Zelda game.

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* Traditionally, Link in ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' begins the game with only three hearts. The Link in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'' is an exception; he starts out with a full six. That's because ''this'' [[LegacyCharacter incarnation of Link]] has been explicitly training as a knight.knight, whereas other Links have been [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker mere children]], [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess farmers]], or [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks train conductors]]. He's more physically fit and has more stamina than the other Links. This And while the Link in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild Breath of the Wild]]'' was also applies to VideoGame/HyruleWarriors to trained as a degree where Link knight, he was also in cryostasis for 100 years: everything you do in [=BotW=] is a soldier in under the Hyrulean army and starts off with 10 hearts, but so does everyone else, even [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Agitha]] whose defining feature is and combat abilities revolve around the motif "likes bugs a LOT". Furthermore, everyone can currently get up to 40 hearts, double the amount normally available in any other Zelda game.idea that you're regaining your strength before [[spoiler:once again]] fighting Ganon.
12th Apr '17 7:00:43 PM RacattackForce
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* Both ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' make use of this through the "Squid Research Lab", a group of human scientists ([[AfterTheEnd and probably the only humans]]) who are dedicated to analyzing the behavior of the Inklings, a species of humanoid squid. Their findings explain everything from why [[CavemenVsAstronautsDebate Splatfests]] can occasionally correlate to present-day pop culture[[note]]Humans' arguments were transmitted into space thousands of years ago via radio waves, were reflected back to Earth thanks to various space debris, and are received by the Inkling's current technology[[/note]] to why your Inkling is fighting mutant salmon on a desolate island in [[MultiMookMelee Horde Mode]][[note]]It's a part-time job you got at a large-scale cannery[[/note]] to even why you can't swim in water[[note]]You're an [=INKling=]: [[CaptainObvious you're made of water-soluble ink]][[/note]].

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* Both ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' make use of this through the "Squid Research Lab", a group of human scientists ([[AfterTheEnd and probably the only humans]]) who are dedicated to analyzing the behavior of the Inklings, a species of humanoid squid. Their findings findings, which serve as the promotional materials for the games, explain everything from why [[CavemenVsAstronautsDebate Splatfests]] can occasionally correlate to present-day pop culture[[note]]Humans' arguments were transmitted into space thousands of years ago via radio waves, were reflected back to Earth thanks to various space debris, and are received by the Inkling's current technology[[/note]] to why your Inkling is fighting mutant salmon on a desolate island in [[MultiMookMelee Horde Mode]][[note]]It's a part-time job you got at a large-scale cannery[[/note]] to even why you can't swim in water[[note]]You're an [=INKling=]: [[CaptainObvious you're made of water-soluble ink]][[/note]].
12th Apr '17 6:58:55 PM RacattackForce
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* Both ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' make use of this through the "Squid Research Lab", a group of human scientists ([[AfterTheEnd and probably the only humans]]) who are dedicated to analyzing the behavior of the Inklings, a species of humanoid squid. Their findings explain everything from why [[CavemenVsAstronautsDebate Splatfests]] can occasionally correlate to present-day pop culture[[note]]Humans' arguments were transmitted into space thousands of years ago via radio waves, were reflected back to Earth thanks to various space debris, and are received by the Inkling's current technology[[/note]] to why your Inkling is fighting mutant salmon on a desolate island in [[MultiMookMelee Horde Mode]][[note]]It's a part-time job you got at a large-scale cannery[[/note]] to even why you can't swim in water[[note]]You're a INKling: [[CaptainObvious you're made of ink]][[/note]].

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* Both ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' make use of this through the "Squid Research Lab", a group of human scientists ([[AfterTheEnd and probably the only humans]]) who are dedicated to analyzing the behavior of the Inklings, a species of humanoid squid. Their findings explain everything from why [[CavemenVsAstronautsDebate Splatfests]] can occasionally correlate to present-day pop culture[[note]]Humans' arguments were transmitted into space thousands of years ago via radio waves, were reflected back to Earth thanks to various space debris, and are received by the Inkling's current technology[[/note]] to why your Inkling is fighting mutant salmon on a desolate island in [[MultiMookMelee Horde Mode]][[note]]It's a part-time job you got at a large-scale cannery[[/note]] to even why you can't swim in water[[note]]You're a INKling: an [=INKling=]: [[CaptainObvious you're made of water-soluble ink]][[/note]].
12th Apr '17 6:57:35 PM RacattackForce
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* Both ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'' and ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' make use of this through the "Squid Research Lab", a group of human scientists ([[AfterTheEnd and probably the only humans]]) who are dedicated to analyzing the behavior of the Inklings, a species of humanoid squid. Their findings explain everything from why [[CavemenVsAstronautsDebate Splatfests]] can occasionally correlate to present-day pop culture[[note]]Humans' arguments were transmitted into space thousands of years ago via radio waves, were reflected back to Earth thanks to various space debris, and are received by the Inkling's current technology[[/note]] to why your Inkling is fighting mutant salmon on a desolate island in [[MultiMookMelee Horde Mode]][[note]]It's a part-time job you got at a large-scale cannery[[/note]] to even why you can't swim in water[[note]]You're a INKling: [[CaptainObvious you're made of ink]][[/note]].
11th Apr '17 8:37:07 PM Steven
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** The Echo is an AntiFrustrationFeature buff that boosts your maximum HP, attack power, and healing potency so that you can clear a battle if you're struggling with it. In lore, the Echo is granted to a select few whose abilities differ from person to person. In the player's case, their Echo grants them ungodly strength and makes them immune to being [[BrainwashedAndCrazy tempered]]. During the ''Heavensward'' main story, you come across [[spoiler: the Warriors of Darkness]] and they also possess the Echo. Just like the player, defeating the group has their Echo kick in and makes them stronger in the exact same way as the player.



* ''Videogame/{{Uplink}}'' very nearly manages to achieve Perfect Integration. It makes sense that stats are divided into discrete numbers, because they all reflect computer hardware. More expensive abilities are better because they make use of more efficient coding and algorithms. It even comes close to having a procedurally-generated story, as the player is given extensive control over how quickly they wish to develop their hacking career, and which side (if any) they want to take over the future of the Internet

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* ''Videogame/{{Uplink}}'' very nearly manages to achieve Perfect Integration. It makes sense that stats are divided into discrete numbers, because they all reflect computer hardware. More expensive abilities are better because they make use of more efficient coding and algorithms. It even comes close to having a procedurally-generated story, as the player is given extensive control over how quickly they wish to develop their hacking career, and which side (if any) they want to take over the future of the InternetInternet.
* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' has the Yiga Clan, who are a group of evil ninjas on the side of the BigBad. Their scouts can be encountered in the field under the disguise of a traveller or merchant. When you defeat their leader, he vows that his gang will follow you everywhere no matter where you go. He is not kidding. Defeating the leader only makes the clan more bold and they will start appearing out of nowhere at anytime to attack you on sight.
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