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2nd Nov '16 4:45:40 PM nombretomado
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-> ''[[HisDarkMaterials The Amber Spyglass]]''

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-> ''[[HisDarkMaterials The Amber Spyglass]]''
''Literature/TheAmberSpyglass''
7th Aug '16 5:40:38 PM nombretomado
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* TheDCU's supreme being, The Presence, varies depending on who's writing about Him. In power He's usually around a 4.5, fully omnipotent but fate is still capable of being fought, though in behavior He can be a 2 in that He rarely gets involved unless the stakes are really, really high (like that time in ''Comicbook/SwampThing'' where the sentient darkness that existed before the creation of the Universe came after Him). By the end of ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'', [[spoiler:He willingly demotes Himself to a 1a, retiring to allow His granddaughter to take His place, with all evidence pointing to her being a more competent and loving Creator than He ever was.]]

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* TheDCU's Franchise/TheDCU's supreme being, The Presence, varies depending on who's writing about Him. In power He's usually around a 4.5, fully omnipotent but fate is still capable of being fought, though in behavior He can be a 2 in that He rarely gets involved unless the stakes are really, really high (like that time in ''Comicbook/SwampThing'' where the sentient darkness that existed before the creation of the Universe came after Him). By the end of ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'', [[spoiler:He willingly demotes Himself to a 1a, retiring to allow His granddaughter to take His place, with all evidence pointing to her being a more competent and loving Creator than He ever was.]]
26th Jun '16 7:49:56 PM nombretomado
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* God, also known as the White God, works this way in TheDresdenFiles, according to Uriel. Paraphrased: "The battle between light and dark works on so many levels that you literally could not begin to understand how it all happens."

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* God, also known as the White God, works this way in TheDresdenFiles, ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', according to Uriel. Paraphrased: "The battle between light and dark works on so many levels that you literally could not begin to understand how it all happens."
29th Mar '16 6:34:46 PM Gamermaster
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* Universal Gods in ''Webcomic/LsEmpire'' are noted as being incredibly powerful Class 4s so long as they stay in their home dimension. Subversal Gods are weaker but they aren't restricted to one dimension.
20th Dec '15 4:31:28 PM nombretomado
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* Eru Ilúvatar from ''TheSilmarillion'', he has everything planned down to the last angstrom, but uses the Valar (Archangels or small-g gods) to bring about his creation. The Valar can be considered level 4 gods but they are not omnipotent nor omniscient.

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* Eru Ilúvatar from ''TheSilmarillion'', ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', he has everything planned down to the last angstrom, but uses the Valar (Archangels or small-g gods) to bring about his creation. The Valar can be considered level 4 gods but they are not omnipotent nor omniscient.
18th Oct '15 5:57:18 PM nombretomado
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* The entire point of {{Preacher}} is that God has abandoned His flock and Reverend Jesse Custer seeks Him out to demand to know why He hasn't done right by His creations.

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* The entire point of {{Preacher}} ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'' is that God has abandoned His flock and Reverend Jesse Custer seeks Him out to demand to know why He hasn't done right by His creations.
2nd Jul '15 9:00:29 PM nombretomado
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* God in ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}'' (the new one) is a weak Category 4 or strong Category 3, definitely intervening, but not terribly interested in smiting. Also, He doesn't like to be called "God."

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* God in ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}'' (the new one) Galactica|2003}}'' is a weak Category 4 or strong Category 3, definitely intervening, but not terribly interested in smiting. Also, He doesn't like to be called "God."
28th Apr '15 9:19:12 AM nombretomado
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* The character of The Author in BobAndGeorge slides between the different categories. Sometimes he knows everything that's going on and is working Category 2 or 3. Other times he is there among the characters and has no idea what is happening. What makes this odd is that he is THE AUTHOR OF THE ENTIRE COMIC. He's the one writing and drawing the whole thing! The in comic universe (where There Is No Fourth Wall) cannot exist without him. More than once villains have plotted to destroy the comic universe by killing Author. Sometimes Hand Waved away and Played For Laughs by stating The Author just makes everything up as he goes.

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* The character of The Author in BobAndGeorge ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'' slides between the different categories. Sometimes he knows everything that's going on and is working Category 2 or 3. Other times he is there among the characters and has no idea what is happening. What makes this odd is that he is THE AUTHOR OF THE ENTIRE COMIC. He's the one writing and drawing the whole thing! The in comic universe (where There Is No Fourth Wall) cannot exist without him. More than once villains have plotted to destroy the comic universe by killing Author. Sometimes Hand Waved away and Played For Laughs by stating The Author just makes everything up as he goes.
2nd Apr '15 10:38:46 PM Millenia
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A god or gods exist, but they keep out of worldly affairs. They may be The Creator and may keep the laws of nature working behind the scenes but there's no way to tell if they care about being worshiped or not. Might be either TrueNeutral or AboveGoodAndEvil. Or they are NeglectfulPrecursors. Authors who write Watchmaker gods are either neutral about the idea of God of hold the viewpoint that the beauty of nature, physics, math, order, etc, are sufficient justification for God's existence (A.K.A. the Watchmaker Argument), though they may not share the same views about organized religion. [[MohsScaleOfSciFiHardness Sufficiently hard sci-fi works]] rarely go above this level on the scale.

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A god or gods exist, but they keep out of worldly affairs. They may be The Creator and may keep the laws of nature working behind the scenes but there's no way to tell if they care about being worshiped or not. Might be either TrueNeutral or AboveGoodAndEvil. Or they are NeglectfulPrecursors. Authors who write Watchmaker gods are either neutral about the idea of God of or hold the viewpoint that the beauty of nature, physics, math, order, etc, are sufficient justification for God's existence (A.K.A. the Watchmaker Argument), though they may not share the same views about organized religion. [[MohsScaleOfSciFiHardness Sufficiently hard sci-fi works]] rarely go above this level on the scale.
24th Dec '14 11:38:44 PM Joyce13
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* In the CircleOfMagic series, there are various gods and religions, with the one that the main characters either follow or interact with being the Living Circle religion. However, it is not made clear if the gods don't exist, or if they do but don't do anything.
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