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17th Feb '18 2:05:03 AM nombretomado
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%%* ThePope of the church of Martel in ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.

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%%* ThePope UsefulNotes/ThePope of the church of Martel in ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.
20th Jan '18 2:28:00 PM nombretomado
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* In [[ChaosWalking The Knife of Never Letting Go]], the priest of Prentisstown, a man named Aaron, pursues the main character throughout the entire book. He combines this trope with ImplacableMan, surviving many, many injuries (including ''having his head chewed on by a crocodile'') due to his religious conviction.

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* In [[ChaosWalking [[Literature/ChaosWalking The Knife of Never Letting Go]], the priest of Prentisstown, a man named Aaron, pursues the main character throughout the entire book. He combines this trope with ImplacableMan, surviving many, many injuries (including ''having his head chewed on by a crocodile'') due to his religious conviction.
9th Jan '18 5:01:33 AM Cryoclaste
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* ''WorldWithoutEnd'' is filled with these:

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* ''WorldWithoutEnd'' ''Series/WorldWithoutEnd'' is filled with these:
2nd Jan '18 3:44:09 PM LentilSandEater
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** Oh, come on, if there's a priest you've got about 50% odds of it being the priest. And there are a ''lot'' of priests.



* Kai Winn in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', who becomes leader of a SaintlyChurch purely in pursuit of personal power, and somehow fools everyone except the main characters. Initially she believes that [[ItsAllAboutMe everything that goes right for her is proof she's doing the Prophets' will, and everything that goes wrong is a test]], but later she decides that if the Prophets don't agree with her they're wrong, and turns to the Pah-Wraiths, the Bajoran equivalent of demons.
** Though, during the GrandFinale, after [[spoiler:Gul Dukat]] has tricked her into releasing the Wraiths and helped him essentially become TheAntiChrist, she helps Sisko stop him. [[spoiler:[[RedemptionEqualsDeath Naturally, she dies.]]]]
** At first, Winn expressed resentment of the Federation's presence due to their secularism. Later, when Sisko starts to embrace his role as [[MessianicArchetype the Emissary of the Prophets]], it's more that she sees him personally as a threat to her power. After all, when the Emissary has arrived, what need is there for a Kai? It's rather akin to a scenario where the Pope is resentful of the fact that Jesus outranks him, which illustrates how much her ambition twisted her religious beliefs.

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* Kai Winn in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', who becomes leader of a SaintlyChurch purely in pursuit of personal power, and somehow fools everyone except the main characters. Initially she believes that [[ItsAllAboutMe everything that goes right for her is proof she's doing the Prophets' will, and everything that goes wrong is a test]], but later she decides that if the Prophets don't agree with her they're wrong, and turns to the Pah-Wraiths, the Bajoran equivalent of demons.
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demons. Though, during the GrandFinale, after [[spoiler:Gul Dukat]] has tricked her into releasing the Wraiths and helped him essentially become TheAntiChrist, she helps Sisko stop him. [[spoiler:[[RedemptionEqualsDeath Naturally, she dies.]]]]
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]]]] At first, Winn expressed resentment of the Federation's presence due to their secularism. Later, when Sisko starts to embrace his role as [[MessianicArchetype the Emissary of the Prophets]], it's more that she sees him personally as a threat to her power. After all, when the Emissary has arrived, what need is there for a Kai? It's rather akin to a scenario where the Pope is resentful of the fact that Jesus outranks him, which illustrates how much her ambition twisted her religious beliefs.



* The Canon on the medieval planet in ''Series/StargateSG1'' made use of ''creative'' interpretations of Literature/TheBible, the fear engendered by the Goa'uld System Lord Sokar's raids for hosts, and a [[AppliedPhlebotinum lightning-summoning ring]] in order to maintain control over his village. When SG-1 arrived, he accused Teal'c of consorting with demons.
** The Priors of the Ori and their head honcho, the Doci, are pretty creepy.

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* The Canon on the medieval planet in ''Series/StargateSG1'' made use of ''creative'' interpretations of Literature/TheBible, the fear engendered by the Goa'uld System Lord Sokar's raids for hosts, and a [[AppliedPhlebotinum lightning-summoning ring]] in order to maintain control over his village. When SG-1 arrived, he accused Teal'c of consorting with demons.
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demons. The Priors of the Ori and their head honcho, the Doci, are pretty creepy.
2nd Jan '18 3:43:22 PM LentilSandEater
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** Although the Archdeacon, played by Colin Mochrie, fits the trope a bit more closely.
** Thorne.
21st Dec '17 3:05:42 PM MasterN
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Usually [[DumbIsGood well]]-[[EvilGenius educated]] and [[WickedCultured cultured]], the Sinister Minister is nonetheless unspeakably evil and regularly engages in acts of sexual depravity (or perhaps not; many a Sinister Minister is [[StraightEdgeEvil Straight Edge]]) and, if not outright violence, threats and intimidation. The Sinister Minister usually keeps his own hands relatively clean until late in the game when his power base is secure and he can act with impunity.

There are typically two types of Sinister Minister. The first type is subtle and deceptive, using soft words and a friendly attitude to gain trust among his congregation; in this way, he's much like any other man of the cloth, but his true motives are anything but typical, taking advantage of that trust once he has it. The second type is far less subtle, using scare tactics in the form of fiery sermons to convince people that God is a vengeful Creator who will not hesitate to condemn "heretics" (a favorite word this villain has for anyone who disagrees with him) to the pits of Hell or even smite the world early unless they follow what he calls his ideal path. It's [[GullibleLemmings amazing how well this can draw people in]], and if the Sinister Minister does it enough, [[BelievingYourOwnLies even he might start to believe it.]]

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Usually [[DumbIsGood well]]-[[EvilGenius educated]] and [[WickedCultured cultured]], the Sinister Minister is nonetheless unspeakably evil and [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil regularly engages in acts of sexual depravity depravity]] (or perhaps not; many a Sinister Minister is [[StraightEdgeEvil Straight Edge]]) and, if not outright violence, threats and intimidation. The Sinister Minister usually keeps his own hands relatively clean until late in the game when his power base is secure and he can act with impunity.

There are typically two types of Sinister Minister. The first type is [[ManipulativeBastard subtle and deceptive, deceptive]], [[VillainWithGoodPublicity using soft words and a friendly attitude to gain trust among his congregation; congregation]]; in this way, he's much like any other man of the cloth, but his true motives are anything but typical, taking advantage of that trust once he has it. The second type is [[ObviouslyEvil far less subtle, subtle]], using scare tactics in the form of fiery sermons to convince people that God is a vengeful Creator who will not hesitate to condemn "heretics" (a ([[WithUsOrAgainstUs a favorite word this villain has for anyone who disagrees with him) him]]) to the pits of Hell or even smite the world early unless they follow what he calls his ideal path. It's [[GullibleLemmings amazing how well this can draw people in]], and if the Sinister Minister does it enough, [[BelievingYourOwnLies even he might start to believe it.]]



If there is a GoodShepherd in the series, then the two are usually enemies. However, if the GoodShepherd is a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter then he might actually be a supporter of the SinisterMinister (at least until he discovers the truth).

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If there is a GoodShepherd in the series, then the two are [[{{Foil}} usually enemies.enemies]]. However, if the GoodShepherd is a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter then he might actually be a supporter of the SinisterMinister (at least until he discovers the truth).
2nd Dec '17 3:23:00 AM jeez
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* ''Series/BabylonBerlin'' features "Saint Josef", a tattoo-covered Berlin mobster (who may or may not actually be an ordained priest); He generally struts around in a Catholic habit and biretta clutching a rosary, delivering threatening messages in the name of his Boss.

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* ''Series/BabylonBerlin'' features "Saint Josef", a featuresa tattoo-covered Berlin mobster (who mob enforcer going by the nickname "Saint Josef" (and may or may not actually be an ordained priest); He generally struts around town in a Catholic habit and biretta clutching a rosary, delivering threatening messages in the name of his Boss.
2nd Dec '17 3:17:27 AM jeez
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* ''Series/BabylonBerlin'' features "Saint Josef", a tattoo-covered Berlin mobster (who may or may not actually be an ordained priest); He generally struts around in a Catholic habit and biretta clutching a rosary, delivering threatening messages in the name of his Boss.
1st Dec '17 7:51:37 PM angie710
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Compare NunTooHoly, a Trope for nuns who turn evil. If the villain is merely ''pretending'' to be a priest or nun, then that's BadHabits. If at least one of the things that makes the minister "sinister" is that fact that he molests children, then you're dealing with a PedophilePriest. For a priest that is simply a lecher, see DirtyOldMonk.

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Compare NunTooHoly, a Trope for nuns who turn evil. If the villain is merely ''pretending'' to be a priest or nun, then that's BadHabits. If at least one of the things that makes the minister "sinister" is that fact that he molests children, then you're dealing with a PedophilePriest. For a priest that is simply a lecher, see DirtyOldMonk.
DirtyOldMonk. See also the ChurchgoingVillain, who does not necessarily ''have'' to be a religious leader.
19th Nov '17 2:45:51 PM DustSnitch
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* Creator/BishopBarron describes how priests go bad using the Literature/BooksOfSamuel in his vlog on "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4rZncurRAg&t=63s David and the Priesthood]]." He compares David's one lazy day to any time a priest fails to work for God's glory. In David's story, he commits adultery with Bethseba and kills Uriel, and priests can fall into similar excesses of lust, greed, and gluttony.
-->''"Priests go bad, I told these students, when they stop fighting, when they stop engaging the struggle."''

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* Creator/BishopBarron describes how priests go bad using the Literature/BooksOfSamuel in his vlog on "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4rZncurRAg&t=63s David and the Priesthood]]." He compares David's one lazy day to any time a priest fails to work for God's glory. In David's story, he commits adultery with Bethseba Bathseba and kills Uriel, and priests can fall into similar excesses of lust, greed, and gluttony.
-->''"Priests go bad, I -->''"Bad priests taking advantage of the people? Their superiors being told these students, when they stop fighting, when they stop engaging the struggle.and not doing anything about it? Hello, this is today."''
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