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6th Feb '16 8:58:27 PM nombretomado
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* On an episode of ''{{Cheers}}'', Lilith takes singing lessons. The gang at the bar are surprised when she sings a sweet lullabye to Frederick.
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* On an episode of ''{{Cheers}}'', ''Series/{{Cheers}}'', Lilith takes singing lessons. The gang at the bar are surprised when she sings a sweet lullabye to Frederick.
26th Jan '16 6:23:51 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* An in-universe example appears in ''Manga/GekkanShoujoNozakiKun''. Seo's singing on the intercom is beautiful enough to make boys fall for [[RedBaron Lorelei]] and differs so dramatically from her [[TheLadette normal rough pattern of speech]] that people not in the know can't tell that it's her.
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* An in-universe example appears in ''Manga/GekkanShoujoNozakiKun''.''Manga/MonthlyGirlsNozakiKun''. Seo's singing on the intercom is beautiful enough to make boys fall for [[RedBaron Lorelei]] and differs so dramatically from her [[TheLadette normal rough pattern of speech]] that people not in the know can't tell that it's her.
23rd Jan '16 12:06:36 AM thecarolinabull01
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* When the late Music/{{Michael Jackson}} sang, his voice sounded masculine and powerful, in surprising contrast to his soft, feminine-sounding speaking voice.
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* When the late Music/{{Michael Jackson}} sang, his voice sounded masculine and powerful, in surprising contrast to his soft, feminine-sounding speaking voice. However, according to those closest to him, the aforementioned voice was actually a put on, with his natural speaking voice sounding closer to his singing voice.
29th Dec '15 8:36:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* So does KeithUrban.
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* So does KeithUrban.Music/KeithUrban.
26th Nov '15 6:09:09 AM Silverblade2
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[[folder:General]] * A lot of English-speaking singers put on a more neutral (or [[WeAllLiveInAmerica Americanized]]) inflection when singing but still speak with their native accents. The easy answer is because it's the singing accent we're all used to hearing due to the dominance of the music industry by American acts. Take AmyWinehouse for example. In [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6kWDfPzqO4 this video]] there's an interview cut together with samples of her songs and it barely even sounds like the same person. it goes in the opposite direction too, with many American indie acts trying to sound like Music/TheBeatles or Music/TheRollingStones, such as The Killers, The Brian Jonestown Massacre, Music/TheStrokes and many others. See InternationalPopSongEnglish for a description of the common variant. ** In the case of English singers, it could be linked to the fact that at least ''a few'', if not many, generic British English speakers feel that their accent is too 'posh'-sounding for a lot of modern music. A widespread English opinion is that a well-spoken generic English speaker sounds pretty lame if they don't neutralize their accent when they sing. Imagine the Queen trying to sing a rock number. Exactly. *** Bad example, that would be so metal. ** This is less common in less mainstream music, although they are (usually) still singing in English. ** Contemporaries of the Beatles, however, asked why they affected an ''American'' accent when singing, and of course many of their musical influences were American. Maybe "Mid-Atlantic" would be a better description: they sound American to Brits, and British to Americans. Likewise Elton John, who explained that all his influences were African American Rock and R&B artists and that's why he sang like them. *** The Beatles themselves were asked this. Their response was that it just sounded better. ** Many American singers drop the "r" sound on the end of syllables, a common feature of British accents. This may be just to make singing easier. *** American English is not wholly rhotic (pronunciation of r's), though, nor does it use just one rhotic consonant. AAVE[[labelnote:]] (African-American Vernacular English, the dialect spoken to some degree or another by most Black people in the country; shares the same linguistic root as the dialects spoken by White Southerners; Ebonics is the extreme variant of AAVE)[[/labelnote]], the most common dialect used in hip hop, rap, R&B, and other genres, is non-rhotic. Southern American English, used in Country music, is traditionally non-rhotic as well, though it has become increasingly rhotic as the scene has become dominated by singers from Oklahoma and Texas (where the accent is highly rhotic). ** This was actually inverted by several American punk and NewWaveMusic bands formed during the 80's, who would affect pseudo-British accents since their influences came from British bands such as the Music/SexPistols and Music/TheClash. ** In the UK, this a phenomenon typically associated with pop and mainstream music. Artists working in niche or alternative genres typically retain a British accent, even if they may choose to normalize in the direction of Received Pronunciation. *** {{Britpop}} is the greatest example of this, with most of the bands retaining a strong English accent which makes it easy to identify them as English. ** This used to be quite bad in South African music. However, various artists have ([[GenreSavvy consciously, it would seem]]) started to reverse this; the most obvious being some instances of the vowel "a" (e.g., "can" sounds as an American would expect, but "can't" has the same "a" as in "far"). This does not apply to types of music that are seen as being inherently American, such as Rap and Hip-Hop; in those genres, South Africans will put on American accents even in works not originally destined for the international market. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc2H1-rz-94 Some do it better than others]]. ** British and Antipodean folk music generally averts this entirely, particularly if the song was written for a colloquial dialect. Adopting an American accent to sing songs such as "The Skye Boat Song" or "Come Out Ye Black and Tans" simply wouldn't make sense. ** A lot of British ska and punk is also sung with the retained British accent; see, for instance, Music/{{Madness}} or the Music/{{Sex Pistols}} for a couple of famous examples. The Music/{{Psychedelic Furs}}'s Richard Butler retained his British accent while singing. So did Damon Albarn of Music/{{Blur}} fame. Mark E. Smith of Music/TheFall has always made his Mancunian accent apparent, as has [[Music/{{Oasis}} Liam Gallagher]]. And one can argue that one can still hear a touch of British in Music/{{The Cure}}'s Robert Smith's accent. *** This was definitely the case with The Clash's 1977 song "I'm So Bored With the U.S.A." - which is only appropriate, seeing that the song is one big "fuck you" to America. ** Accents should be taken with a big grain of salt when it comes to singing, as singers are trained to enunciate their vowels in a certain way that has nothing to do with any particular language or accent; or if any, Italian. * Countertenors are a RealLife example of this. (They're most often baritones when not singing in their falsetto.) ** High sopranos also count. Their speaking voices are usually much lower than their singing ones. *** They can also tend to have a habit of drawing out their notes longer than altos and mezzos. This often does not translate into their normal speaking voices. ** As do low basses; most do not have particularly low speaking voices. * Go to enough karaoke nights at bars and you'll see plenty of this. * DeathMetal musicians sing with a '''''[[GutturalGrowler MIGHTY]] [[HarshVocals GROWL]]''''', so hearing them talk with a normal voice is rather odd if you've gotten used to their growley voice. Especially if they have a high pitched voice. ** Heck, any user of HarshVocals {{invoke|dTrope}}s this because their screaming voice and speaking voice are bound to be very different. {{Justified|Trope}} because a different part of the larynx is used to create the sound. * Many CountryMusic artists adopt a Southern twang even if they're not native to the Southern U.S. or, not even native to the U.S. at all, in some cases like Music/KeithUrban (born in New Zealand, raised in Australia, moved to the U.S. in the early 1990s) or Music/ShaniaTwain (born in Ontario). [[/folder]]
21st Nov '15 2:22:42 PM Daucus
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* In ''WesternAnimation/CatsDontDance'' Sawyer's singing voice is much deeper than her speaking voice.
1st Nov '15 7:08:04 PM nombretomado
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* Till Lindemann of {{Rammstein}} has a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r__RTqqmeGI positively mellow speaking voice]] to contrast his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC9pAker_PM furious growling in-song]].
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* Till Lindemann of {{Rammstein}} Music/{{Rammstein}} has a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r__RTqqmeGI positively mellow speaking voice]] to contrast his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC9pAker_PM furious growling in-song]].
31st Oct '15 5:59:30 PM paul723
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* When Music/{{Michael Jackson}} sings, his voice sounds masculine and powerful, in surprising contrast to his soft, feminine-sounding speaking voice.
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* When the late Music/{{Michael Jackson}} sings, sang, his voice sounds sounded masculine and powerful, in surprising contrast to his soft, feminine-sounding speaking voice.
24th Oct '15 4:07:13 PM nombretomado
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* [[JonTron Jon Jafari]] has a speaking voice that could be compared to [[Film/TheThreeStooges Curly]], and he can be very shrill when he wants to be. Not to mention his notorious "'''ECH ECH'''" CatchPhrase[=/=]VerbalTic/[=/=]what part of his throat does he even ''make'' that vocalization in, which some of his fans even find to be the MostAnnoyingSound. However, he [[TheCastShowoff studied musical theater,]] and when he wants to sing, he doesn't just do it well--he does it ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOlQUzUpsMM operatically.]]''
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* [[JonTron [[WebVideo/JonTron Jon Jafari]] has a speaking voice that could be compared to [[Film/TheThreeStooges Curly]], and he can be very shrill when he wants to be. Not to mention his notorious "'''ECH ECH'''" CatchPhrase[=/=]VerbalTic/[=/=]what part of his throat does he even ''make'' that vocalization in, which some of his fans even find to be the MostAnnoyingSound. However, he [[TheCastShowoff studied musical theater,]] and when he wants to sing, he doesn't just do it well--he does it ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOlQUzUpsMM operatically.]]''
23rd Oct '15 10:37:12 AM Iris
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* [[Main/{{Halsey}} Ashley Frangipane's]] speaking voice is high and young, even girlish. Her singing voice is husky and highly emotive, as noted [[http://lesbianehemia.tumblr.com/post/130346945284/halseys-talking-voice-adorable-lil-pip here]].
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