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24th Sep '16 12:34:07 PM nombretomado
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* Eagle from ''StreetFighter'' uses escrima sticks in battle, and got an expanded moveset for them once he migrated into CapcomVsWhatever territory. Rolento also uses a stick, although it is more of a command baton rather than a weapon.

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* Eagle from ''StreetFighter'' uses escrima sticks in battle, and got an expanded moveset for them once he migrated into CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever territory. Rolento also uses a stick, although it is more of a command baton rather than a weapon.
22nd Sep '16 9:38:29 AM Mitis
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* VideoGame/{{Furi}}: The Chain, the first boss, wields a plain iron staff as his weapon.
19th Sep '16 1:11:53 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** [[WoodenKatanasAreEvenBetter Bokken]] techniques would be better for the things mentioned above. Most common wooden things will more likely be closer to sword-length than full staff-length.
** Traditionally, there is no difference between bokken techniques and quarterstaff techniques in principle- both are attempts to emulate a sword with a length of wood. The quarterstaff is wielded like a Zweihander.
** The difference between a walking cane (or a snapped-off broomstick) and a hanbo is effectively nil. Hanbo are 35.4 inches in length (90 cm) in the modern tradition, about the distance from a man's ankle to hip. That being said, [[GrievousHarmWithABody you cannot wield a human leg as a staff.]] [[ComicallyMissingThePoint It'd bend at the knee.]]

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** [[WoodenKatanasAreEvenBetter Bokken]] techniques would be better for the things mentioned above. Most common wooden things will more likely be closer to sword-length than full staff-length.
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* Traditionally, there is no difference between bokken [[WoodenKatanasAreEvenBetter bokken]] techniques and quarterstaff techniques in principle- both are attempts to emulate a sword with a length of wood. The quarterstaff is wielded like a Zweihander.
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Zweihander. The difference between a walking cane (or a snapped-off broomstick) and a hanbo is effectively nil. Hanbo are 35.4 inches in length (90 cm) in the modern tradition, about the distance from a man's ankle to hip. That being said, [[GrievousHarmWithABody you cannot wield a human leg as a staff.]] [[ComicallyMissingThePoint It'd bend at the knee.]]
19th Sep '16 1:05:16 PM ChaoticNovelist
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A sub-trope of WeaponOfChoice.



Staves tend to be the WeaponOfChoice among monks and others who, for moral and/or ethical reasons, refuse to take a life, but for various reasons find themselves desiring a weapon. Anyone else interested in practicing combat skills is more interested in lethality, and so affix various pointy ends to their poles, making these implements a [[BladeOnAStick different kind of weapon entirely]]. Of course, some people take a middle path and conceal various nasty surprises in their staves.

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Staves tend to be the WeaponOfChoice among monks and others who, for moral moral, religious and/or ethical reasons, refuse to take a life, but for various reasons find themselves desiring a weapon. Anyone else interested in practicing combat skills is more interested in lethality, and so affix various pointy ends to their poles, making these implements a [[BladeOnAStick different kind of weapon entirely]]. Of course, some people take a middle path and conceal various nasty surprises in their staves.



When the fighters don't actually care as much about the injuries they inflict, or actively try to cause lots of injuries, perhaps the staff really ''is'' just a [[CarryABigStick long club]]. Or a [[BladeOnAStick spear]] without a spearhead.

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When the fighters don't actually care as much about the injuries they inflict, or actively try to cause lots of injuries, perhaps the staff really ''is'' just a [[CarryABigStick long club]]. Or club]], or a [[BladeOnAStick spear]] without a spearhead.



* Kento from ''Anime/RoninWarriors'' wields one.

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* Kento from ''Anime/RoninWarriors'' ''Anime/RoninWarriors'': The Ancient One wields one.a staff to do his priestly magic in contrast to the Ronins themselves who stick with BladeOnAStick.



* This trope also appears in Robert A. Heinlein's ''Literature/SixthColumn'', written back in the early 1940s. In that novel, the "priest's staves" were in reality AppliedPhlebotinum, both weapons and tools. They took the form of a ornately carved and gilded staff (that hid the controls in its gilding) surmounted by a cube of six colors (that concealed the generators/projectors) A backpack hidden under their clothing hid the power source.

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* This trope also appears in Robert A. Heinlein's ''Literature/SixthColumn'', written back in the early 1940s. In that novel, the "priest's staves" were in reality AppliedPhlebotinum, both weapons and tools. They took the form of a ornately carved and gilded staff (that hid the controls in its gilding) surmounted by a cube of six colors (that concealed the generators/projectors) A backpack hidden under their clothing hid the power source.



* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', wizards use magic staffs. Some of them are very old, handed down through generations, and may be made of different materials. Ridcully the Brown has one and it's the reason he doesn't use magic too often, because he's found that if something isn't intimidated by being walloped by six feet of solid oak, it probably won't be troubled too much by magic either. This proves useful on his second visit to magic-free [[Discworld/TheScienceOfDiscworld Roundworld]], where we actually see him trounce a native in a quarterstaff brawl.

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* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', wizards ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'',
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use magic staffs. Some of them are very old, handed down through generations, and may be made of different materials. Ridcully the Brown has one and it's the reason he doesn't use magic too often, because he's found that if something isn't intimidated by being walloped by six feet of solid oak, it probably won't be troubled too much by magic either. This proves useful on his second visit to magic-free [[Discworld/TheScienceOfDiscworld Roundworld]], where we actually see him trounce a native in a quarterstaff brawl.



* Mat Cauthon from the ''Literature/WheelOfTime'' books uses a staff as his favourite weapon, and is good enough with it that early in the series, he beat down two expert swordsmen in a demonstration bout. [[{{Badass}} At once]]. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome While convalescing from a serious curse/illness]]. (The instructor of those swordsmen then reminded the class that the WheelOfTime's greatest swordsman in history was only ever beaten once... by a farmer with a quarterstaff.)
** Later on, he upgrades to a [[BladeOnAStick polearm]], but is still prone to using the haft as a staff against multiple opponents.
*** That's exactly how one uses a [[BladeOnAStick polearm]] when not in formation.
** Interestingly, Ishamael also wields a staff during his fight with Rand at the end of the second book. Rand stabs him in the chest, but he gives Rand his first WoundThatWillNotHeal in the process.

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* Mat Cauthon from the ''Literature/WheelOfTime'' books uses a staff as his favourite weapon, and is good enough with it that early in the series, he beat down two expert swordsmen in a demonstration bout. [[{{Badass}} At once]]. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome While convalescing from a serious curse/illness]]. (The instructor of those swordsmen then reminded the class that the WheelOfTime's greatest swordsman in history was only ever beaten once... by a farmer with a quarterstaff.)
** Later on, he upgrades to a [[BladeOnAStick polearm]], but is still prone to using the haft as a staff against multiple opponents.
*** That's exactly how one uses a [[BladeOnAStick polearm]] when not in formation.
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) Interestingly, Ishamael also wields a staff during his fight with Rand at the end of the second book. Rand stabs him in the chest, but he gives Rand his first WoundThatWillNotHeal in the process.



* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. Royal guards tell Gandalf that he must leave behind all weapons if he wishes to meet the king, but Gandalf counters, "You wouldn't deny an old man his walking stick, would you?". Of course, his walking stick is actually a MagicStaff, which he uses to break Grí­ma Wormtongue's spell over the king.
** Though what he actually appears to do with it is to magically darken the room and simply knock Wormtongue out, so he can speak to the King directly. In the book, Théoden isn't under an actual magical spell, but simply under the thumb of a twisted advisor who exploits his fears and uses subtle poisons to make him feel weak and powerless.
* For order-mages in the [[Literature/SagaOfRecluce Recluce Saga]], staves aren't simply the weapon of choice, they're pretty much the only possible weapon. Bladed implements like swords, knives and the like (basically, anything designed with death and destruction in mind) causes pain and discomfort in an order mage, since these things are linked with chaos magic. The staff is inherently non-lethal in nature, and can be used defensively more or less indefinitely. For this reason most order-mages wind up carrying a staff (or in one notable case, a truncheon). While the staff can be used to injure or kill as well (and does have the noted pain-inducing effects in the order-mage wielding it), it is not specifically designed for this purpose, and is thus comparatively safe to use, whereas some order-mages feel ill even just ''holding'' a sword.

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* [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. Royal guards tell Gandalf that he must leave behind all weapons if he wishes to meet the king, but Gandalf counters, "You wouldn't deny an old man his walking stick, would you?". Of course, his walking stick is actually a MagicStaff, which he uses to break Grí­ma Wormtongue's spell over the king.
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king. Though what he actually appears to do with it is to magically darken the room and simply knock Wormtongue out, so he can speak to the King directly. In the book, Théoden isn't under an actual magical spell, but simply under the thumb of a twisted advisor who exploits his fears and uses subtle poisons to make him feel weak and powerless.
* For order-mages in the [[Literature/SagaOfRecluce Recluce Saga]], staves aren't simply the weapon of choice, they're pretty much the only possible weapon. Bladed implements like swords, knives and the like (basically, anything designed with death and destruction in mind) causes pain and discomfort in an order mage, since these things are linked with chaos magic. The staff is inherently non-lethal in nature, and can be used defensively more or less indefinitely. For this reason most order-mages wind up carrying a staff (or in one notable case, a truncheon). While the staff can be used to injure or kill as well (and does have the noted pain-inducing effects in the order-mage wielding it), it is not specifically designed for this purpose, and is thus comparatively safe to use, whereas some order-mages feel ill even just ''holding'' a sword.


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*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'':
**The quarterstaff is likely the most popular weapon in the Dragon's Lair company. Two of its squads use them for magical combat, one for physical combat , and then a fourth does both.
**Annala Enaz adds a quarterstaff to her arsenal after [[spoiler: becoming a chaos priestess.]]
1st Sep '16 6:32:54 PM ChrisX
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* The aforementioned Wukong appear also in several MOBA games like ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' and ''VideoGame/{{Smite}}''. And yes, both cases, he comes with his staff as his main repertoire. His staff is also referenced in ''VideoGame/DefenseOfTheAncients'', while Wukong himself doesn't appear in the game, there's an item called 'Monkey King Bar', which is obviously a reference to his staff.

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* The aforementioned Wukong appear also in several MOBA games like ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'' and ''VideoGame/{{Smite}}''. And yes, both cases, he comes with his staff as his main repertoire. His staff is also referenced in ''VideoGame/DefenseOfTheAncients'', while Wukong himself doesn't appear in the game, there's an item called 'Monkey King Bar', which is obviously a reference to his staff. Eventually, this Wukong becomes PromotedToPlayable in ''VideoGame/{{Dota 2}}'' and he's still carrying the staff, which becomes doubly ironic that he has his Monkey King Bar already, but still can buy a new one.
28th Aug '16 5:54:39 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** Sabo during his youth with both Ace and Luffy, where the three of them used [[PipePain pipes]] as bo-staves; Sabo himself was much more notable when it came to using such weaponry in that fashion, [[spoiler:even towards his adulthood]].
28th Aug '16 5:47:50 PM SneaselSawashiro
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* As mentioned in the ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'' example below, Son Goku of DragonBall wields the Nyoi-Bo. A magical staff that grows and shrinks as the user's will. (Known as the "Power Pole" in the dub.) However, it fades from use in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. Also, Kamesennin (Master Roshi) has a staff of his own, he never seems to really use it for anything though.

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* As mentioned in the ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'' example below, Son Goku of DragonBall wields the Nyoi-Bo.Nyoi Bou (or "Ruyi Bang" for Chinese speakers/savants). A magical staff that grows and shrinks as the user's will. (Known as the "Power Pole" in the dub.) However, it fades from use in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. Also, Kamesennin (Master Roshi) has a staff of his own, he never seems to really use it for anything though.



* Ever since his appearance in the original ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'', Sun Wukong (also known in the Japanese translation as Son Goku) has used a magical collapsible staff called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruyi_Jingu_Bang Ruyi Jingu Bang]] (or "Nyoi Kinko Bou" to most Japanese speakers/anime fans). It appeared as via the Japanese "Nyoibou" reading in some adaptations like ''{{Dragonball}}'', which the dub called a "Power Pole".

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* Ever since his appearance in the original ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'', Sun Wukong (also known in the Japanese translation as Son Goku) has used a magical collapsible staff called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruyi_Jingu_Bang Ruyi Jingu Bang]] (or "Nyoi Kinko Bou" to most Japanese speakers/anime fans). It appeared as via the Japanese "Nyoibou" "Nyoi Bou" reading in some adaptations like ''{{Dragonball}}'', which the dub called a "Power Pole".
28th Aug '16 5:44:55 PM SneaselSawashiro
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* Ever since his appearance in the original ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'', Sun Wukong (also known in the Japanese translation as Son Goku) has used a magical collapsible staff called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruyi_Jingu_Bang Jingu Bang]]. It appeared as ''nyoi-bo'' in ''{{Dragonball}}'', which the dub called a "Power Pole".

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* Ever since his appearance in the original ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'', Sun Wukong (also known in the Japanese translation as Son Goku) has used a magical collapsible staff called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruyi_Jingu_Bang Ruyi Jingu Bang]]. Bang]] (or "Nyoi Kinko Bou" to most Japanese speakers/anime fans). It appeared as ''nyoi-bo'' via the Japanese "Nyoibou" reading in some adaptations like ''{{Dragonball}}'', which the dub called a "Power Pole".
24th Aug '16 4:19:52 PM Snipertoaster
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* Staves in ''VideoGame/GuildWars2'' are usually used for magical attacks, but the ''Heart of Thorns'' expansion introduced the Revenant class and Daredevil specialisation for the Thief class. Both of these classes use staves as melee weapons. Revenants can use them for effective support, but Daredevils gain access to a lot of agility-based attacks by using staves.
24th Aug '16 3:39:40 PM GoblinCipher
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** The Rangers had the Minbari fighting pike for a primary melee weapon, which is essentially a collapsible staff that can extend so fast that one could be knocked out just by having an end of it hit you when telescoping.

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** The Rangers had the Minbari fighting pike for a primary melee weapon, which is essentially a [[TelescopingStaff collapsible staff staff]] that can extend so fast that one could be knocked out just by having an end of it hit you when telescoping.
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