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8th Apr '16 10:46:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* When Sasha Monroe from ''ThirdWatch'' points out Tyrone Davis Jr's shady police tactics and how it contributes to innocent black men going to jail, he put his hand up to her face and says "Don't preach to me."

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* When Sasha Monroe from ''ThirdWatch'' ''Series/ThirdWatch'' points out Tyrone Davis Jr's shady police tactics and how it contributes to innocent black men going to jail, he put his hand up to her face and says "Don't preach to me."
18th Mar '16 10:02:54 AM DyingWillKirby
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* Done [[WorldOfFunnyAnimals literally]] in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'', when idealistic new bunny police officer Judy Hopps is given a sharp dressing down by several characters regarding her [[NaiveNewcomer naive expectations]] of how she'll be able to do real police work and make a difference in the world, despite being the TokenMinority in a workplace filled with [[FantasticRacism unspoken prejudice]]. Even her parents, while supportive of her goals, tell her not to believe in her dreams too much.
28th Feb '16 11:31:46 AM nombretomado
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* Grandad from ''TheBoondocks'' shows heavy shades of this.

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* Grandad from ''TheBoondocks'' ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' shows heavy shades of this.



* When part of the Justice League is turned into children in the ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "Kid Stuff", most of them enjoy it. Green Lantern's having fun conjuring up things, Wonder Woman's having a girly crush on Batman, and Superman's being a bit goofy. Only Batman remains focused and serious, barely changed, and he's the one who eventually wins. When they return to normal, Wonder Woman comments that it was kind of fun being a kid again. Batman responds "I haven't been a kid since I was eight years old".

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* When part of the Justice League is turned into children in the ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "Kid Stuff", most of them enjoy it. Green Lantern's having fun conjuring up things, Wonder Woman's having a girly crush on Batman, and Superman's being a bit goofy. Only Batman remains focused and serious, barely changed, and he's the one who eventually wins. When they return to normal, Wonder Woman comments that it was kind of fun being a kid again. Batman responds "I haven't been a kid since I was eight years old".
12th Feb '16 12:43:33 PM erforce
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* ''{{Shooter}}'':

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* ''{{Shooter}}'':''Film/{{Shooter}}'':
8th Feb '16 8:37:21 PM Blazer
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* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' episode "Heroes and Monsters", Ruby Rose, despite being on the ropes, is still determined to be the hero, save the day and stop Roman Torchwick and the other bad guys from wrecking Vale. Torchwick laughs that off and tells her that if she still wants to be the hero, then she should just roll over and die like every other Huntsman in history. He proceeds to tell her that this world has no room for her type of idealism, that it should die along with her and he'll keep doing what he does best - "lie, cheat, steal and survive!" [[spoiler:A split second later, a Griffin Grimm gives him the ultimate ShutUpHannibal by [[SwallowedWhole eating him]].]]

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* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' episode "Heroes and Monsters", Ruby Rose, despite being on the ropes, is still determined to be the hero, save the day and stop Roman Torchwick and the other bad guys from wrecking Vale. Torchwick laughs that off and tells her that if she still wants to be the hero, then she should just roll over and die like every other Huntsman in history. He proceeds to tell her that this world has no room for her type of idealism, that it should die along with her and he'll keep doing what he does best - "lie, cheat, steal and survive!" [[spoiler:A split second later, a Griffin Grimm gives him the ultimate ShutUpHannibal by [[SwallowedWhole eating him]].]]]] Adam Taurus tells Blake Belladonna the same thing in the same episode: when she tells him that she wanted peace and equality for the Faunus races, Adam roars out that "What you wanted ''is impossible!''"
7th Feb '16 6:57:52 PM Blazer
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* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' episode "Heroes and Monsters", Ruby Rose, despite being on the ropes, is still determined to be the hero, save the day and stop Roman Torchwick and the other bad guys from wrecking Vale. Torchwick laughs that off and tells her that if she still wants to be the hero, then she should just roll over and die like every other Huntsman in history. He proceeds to tell her that this world has no room for her type of idealism, that it should die along with her and he'll keep doing what he does best - "lie, cheat, steal and survive!" [[spoiler:A split second later, a Griffin Grimm gives him the ultimate ShutUpHannibal by [[SwallowedWhole eating him]].]]
29th Jan '16 8:58:05 AM Prfnoff
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* ''CyranoDeBergerac'': At Act II Scene VII, De Guiche offers us a more sophisticated examples than most, when he counsels Cyrano to study Literature/DonQuixote’s chapter of the windmills... [[ForeShadowing implying that Cyrano too will be betrayed by his own idealism]].

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* ''CyranoDeBergerac'': ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'': At Act II Scene VII, De Guiche offers us a more sophisticated examples than most, when he counsels Cyrano to study Literature/DonQuixote’s chapter of the windmills... [[ForeShadowing implying that Cyrano too will be betrayed by his own idealism]].



* In ''Stage Door'' by George S. Kaufman and Edna Ferber, this is the reason why a SmallNameBigEgo playwright doesn't want to write "potboilers":
-->'''Keith''': The theater shouldn't be just a place to earn a living in. It should be thunder and lightning, and power and truth.\\
'''Terry''': And magic and romance!\\
'''Keith''': No, no! Romance is for babies! I write about ''today''! I want to tear the heart out of the rotten carcass they call life, and hold it up bleeding for all the world to see!\\
'''Terry''': How about putting some heart ''into'' life, instead of tearing it out?\\
'''Keith''': There's no place for sentiment in the world today. We've gone past it.\\
'''Terry''': I suppose that's why you never hear of ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''.\\
'''Keith''' ''(turning away)'': That's a woman's argument.\\
'''Terry''': Well, I'm a woman.
29th Jan '16 8:56:51 AM Prfnoff
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* In ''Stage Door'' by George S. Kaufman and Edna Ferber, this is the reason why a SmallNameBigEgo playwright doesn't want to write "potboilers":
-->'''Keith''': The theater shouldn't be just a place to earn a living in. It should be thunder and lightning, and power and truth.\\
'''Terry''': And magic and romance!\\
'''Keith''': No, no! Romance is for babies! I write about ''today''! I want to tear the heart out of the rotten carcass they call life, and hold it up bleeding for all the world to see!\\
'''Terry''': How about putting some heart ''into'' life, instead of tearing it out?\\
'''Keith''': There's no place for sentiment in the world today. We've gone past it.\\
'''Terry''': I suppose that's why you never hear of ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''.\\
'''Keith''' ''(turning away)'': That's a woman's argument.\\
'''Terry''': Well, I'm a woman.
24th Jan '16 6:29:57 PM nombretomado
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* In DCComics, {{Superman}} once battled the Elite (a pastiche of ComicBook/TheAuthority), a pack of super-[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] who routinely killed. It was the Elite's point-of-view that Superman's boy-scout kid-gloves morality was a weakness, and that defeating evil required being just as bad. During their final face-off, Superman appeared to be going all-out, slaughtering his way through the Elite on live TV. But it was a fake-out -- he was merely knocking them out in creative ways, trying to illustrate how terrifying superpowered killers can be. Manchester Black, the leader of the Elite, maintained that Superman's idealism was nothing but a facade until his dying day. (When Black realized that Superman ''honestly and sincerely believed and lived up to his ideals'', [[EvilCannotComprehendGood it was more than Black could take]] and committed suicide.)

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* In DCComics, {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} once battled the Elite (a pastiche of ComicBook/TheAuthority), a pack of super-[[AntiHero anti-heroes]] who routinely killed. It was the Elite's point-of-view that Superman's boy-scout kid-gloves morality was a weakness, and that defeating evil required being just as bad. During their final face-off, Superman appeared to be going all-out, slaughtering his way through the Elite on live TV. But it was a fake-out -- he was merely knocking them out in creative ways, trying to illustrate how terrifying superpowered killers can be. Manchester Black, the leader of the Elite, maintained that Superman's idealism was nothing but a facade until his dying day. (When Black realized that Superman ''honestly and sincerely believed and lived up to his ideals'', [[EvilCannotComprehendGood it was more than Black could take]] and committed suicide.)



** In ''SupermanAtEarthsEnd'', Ben Boxer claims that Superman's ideals, such as [[ThouShaltNotKill not killing for any reason,]] have no place whatsoever in a [[CrapsackWorld devastated hellhole ruled by]] [[YouClonedHitler twin clones of Adolf Hitler.]]

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** In ''SupermanAtEarthsEnd'', ''ComicBook/SupermanAtEarthsEnd'', Ben Boxer claims that Superman's ideals, such as [[ThouShaltNotKill not killing for any reason,]] have no place whatsoever in a [[CrapsackWorld devastated hellhole ruled by]] [[YouClonedHitler twin clones of Adolf Hitler.]]



* In one of Marvel Comic's ''{{Thunderbolts}}'' mini-series, Baron Zemo accidentally goes back in time and encounters many of his ancestors via time-jumps, one of whom is in young love with a lady that history says he's not destined to marry. Zemo tells them to their faces that they can dream because they are young, and that the harshness of reality will eventually make them adults.

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* In one of Marvel Comic's ''{{Thunderbolts}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}'' mini-series, Baron Zemo accidentally goes back in time and encounters many of his ancestors via time-jumps, one of whom is in young love with a lady that history says he's not destined to marry. Zemo tells them to their faces that they can dream because they are young, and that the harshness of reality will eventually make them adults.
1st Jan '16 8:17:26 PM jormis29
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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWar III'', Kratos has such an exchange with [[WideEyedIdealist Pandora]], telling her hope is for fools. She responds with a plea that hope gives people strength. [[spoiler:Eventually, she proves to be right as Kratos is actually empowered by hope from Pandora's Box.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWar III'', ''VideoGame/GodOfWarIII'', Kratos has such an exchange with [[WideEyedIdealist Pandora]], telling her hope is for fools. She responds with a plea that hope gives people strength. [[spoiler:Eventually, she proves to be right as Kratos is actually empowered by hope from Pandora's Box.PandorasBox.]]
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