History Main / ShrugOfGod

18th Aug '17 8:09:06 AM Sunflorazumarill
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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'': There's an age issue on the fandom. The characters age or even who is the oldest and youngest among the paladins is unknown to this day and changes based on what each member of the production says. Fanon runs wild with interpretations of age and even led to a FandomBerserkButton regarding ships of Shiro/Paladins, due to accusations that said ships would be pedophilia, due to Shiro being older than 18 while the others aren't, despite Shiro being, at oldest earl 20's and the paladins being around mid to late teens.

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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'': There's an age issue on the fandom. The characters age or even who is the oldest and youngest among the paladins is unknown to this day and changes based on what each member of the production says. Fanon runs wild with interpretations of age and even led to a FandomBerserkButton regarding ships of Shiro/Paladins, due to accusations that said ships would be pedophilia, due to Shiro being older than 18 while the others aren't, despite Shiro being, at oldest earl early 20's and the paladins being around mid to late teens.
14th Aug '17 11:28:48 AM ectostar
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* '''Find your own answers.''' Maybe the creators don't want to say anything because the answer is actually hidden within the work and he/she/they want the fans to be attentive and uncover it for themselves (or don't feel that he/she/they should have to just give up the secret willy-nilly considering all the hard work they did to cleverly interweave it into the narrative). Even if the answer ''isn't'' out there, creators may still want the fans to come up with [[EpilepticTrees their]] [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory own]] [[WildMassGuessing answers]] (''[[TheWalrusWasPaul Sheesh]].''). Some may firmly believe in the DeathOfTheAuthor theory and not feel their interpretations are any more valid than anyone else's.

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* '''Find your own answers.''' Maybe the creators don't want to say anything because the answer is actually hidden within the work and he/she/they they want the fans to be attentive and uncover it for themselves (or don't feel that he/she/they they should have to just give up the secret willy-nilly considering all the hard work they did to cleverly interweave it into the narrative). Even if the answer ''isn't'' out there, creators may still want the fans to come up with [[EpilepticTrees their]] [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory own]] [[WildMassGuessing answers]] (''[[TheWalrusWasPaul Sheesh]].''). Some may firmly believe in the DeathOfTheAuthor theory and not feel their interpretations are any more valid than anyone else's.
14th Aug '17 11:27:28 AM ectostar
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->'''Alan Schneider:''' Who or what is "Godot"?\\
'''Samuel Beckett:''' If I knew, I would have said so in the play.

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->'''Alan Schneider:''' Schneider''': Who or what is "Godot"?\\
'''Samuel Beckett:''' Beckett''': If I knew, I would have said so in the play.



** Creator/GeorgeLucas officially knows nothing about any of Yoda's backstory or history, despite having crafted elaborate backstories for basically every other character in the series (even ones with less than a minute of screentime) through the ExpandedUniverse. What's his species? They're officially known as [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yoda%27s_species "Yoda's species"]]. Where did they come from? Nobody knows. How did Yoda end up as the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order? Nobody knows. Why is every known member of his species a Jedi? ''Nobody knows.''

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** Creator/GeorgeLucas officially knows nothing about any of Yoda's backstory or history, despite having crafted elaborate backstories for basically every other character in the series (even ones with less than a minute of screentime) through the ExpandedUniverse. What's his species? They're officially known as [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yoda%27s_species "Yoda's species"]]. Where did they come from? Nobody knows. How did Yoda end up as the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order? Nobody knows. Why is every known member of his species a Jedi? ''Nobody knows.''knows''.



* In ''Literature/TheScarletLetter,'' Hawthorne is usually an omniscient narrator, knowing the deeds, words, and innermost thoughts and feelings of many different characters. But at one point, his omniscience falters, and he says that one woman is rumored to be a witch, without confirming whether she is or isn't.

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* In ''Literature/TheScarletLetter,'' ''Literature/TheScarletLetter'', Hawthorne is usually an omniscient narrator, knowing the deeds, words, and innermost thoughts and feelings of many different characters. But at one point, his omniscience falters, and he says that one woman is rumored to be a witch, without confirming whether she is or isn't.



-->''Even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one (intentionally).''

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-->''Even in a mythical Age there must be some enigmas, as there always are. Tom Bombadil is one (intentionally).''(intentionally)''.



* An interviewer asked W. M. Thackeray if [[spoiler:Becky kills Jos]] in ''Literature/VanityFair.'' Thackeray cheerfully admitted that he hadn't a clue.

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* An interviewer asked W. M. Thackeray if [[spoiler:Becky kills Jos]] in ''Literature/VanityFair.'' ''Literature/VanityFair''. Thackeray cheerfully admitted that he hadn't a clue.



--->'''Fan:''' This is a bit of a nitpick, but in ''Federation of Fear'', Tren Krom is described as having yellow eyes. But in The Mutran Chronicles, and on his BS01 entry, he is said to have little more than holes laid into his skull for eyes. Which one is the accurate description?\\
'''Greg:''' You're right. It is a nitpick.

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--->'''Fan:''' --->'''Fan''': This is a bit of a nitpick, but in ''Federation of Fear'', Tren Krom is described as having yellow eyes. But in The Mutran Chronicles, and on his BS01 entry, he is said to have little more than holes laid into his skull for eyes. Which one is the accurate description?\\
'''Greg:''' '''Greg''': You're right. It is a nitpick.



* The ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' dev team is ''frustratingly notorious'' for this. Every interview they have will always have at least one question with an ambiguous answer that's as vague as possible. '''Always.''' It's not so bad to want your MMO to have some mysteries, but trying to have your game as GuideDangIt as possible with things that hundreds of thousands of players haven't figured out for 4+ years is something else entirely.

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* The ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' dev team is ''frustratingly notorious'' for this. Every interview they have will always have at least one question with an ambiguous answer that's as vague as possible. '''Always.''' '''Always'''. It's not so bad to want your MMO to have some mysteries, but trying to have your game as GuideDangIt as possible with things that hundreds of thousands of players haven't figured out for 4+ years is something else entirely.



-->'''Scout:''' He's not here, is she?

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-->'''Scout:''' -->'''Scout''': He's not here, is she?



-->'''Fan:''' When exactly are our heroines' birthdays?\\
'''Tom:''' [[http://gunnerkrigg.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=40&page=8#1178001262 At some point during the year.]]

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-->'''Fan:''' -->'''Fan''': When exactly are our heroines' birthdays?\\
'''Tom:''' '''Tom''': [[http://gunnerkrigg.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=40&page=8#1178001262 At some point during the year.]]



* Creator/JohnKricfalusi, creator of ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow,'' apparently answered the question of whether Ren and Stimpy were gay with "I don't know, it's none of my business."

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* Creator/JohnKricfalusi, creator of ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow,'' ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'', apparently answered the question of whether Ren and Stimpy were gay with "I don't know, it's none of my business."



--->'''Jayson Thiessen:''' hehe

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--->'''Jayson Thiessen:''' Thiessen''': hehe
11th Aug '17 8:32:02 AM jjjj2
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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'': There's an age issue on the fandom. The characters age or even who is the oldest and youngest among the paladins is unknown to this day and changes based on what each member of the production says. Fanon runs wild with interpretations of age and even led to a FandomBerserkButton regarding ships of Shiro/Paladins, due to accusations that said ships would be pedophilia, due to Shiro being older than 18 while the others aren't, despite Shiro being, at oldest earl 20's and the paladins being around mid to late teens.



* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'': There's an age issue on the fandom. The characters age or even who is the oldest and youngest among the paladins is unknown to this day and changes based on what each member of the production says. Fanon runs wild with interpretations of age and even led to a FandomBerserkButton regarding ships of Shiro/Paladins, due to accusations that said ships would be pedophilia, due to Shiro being older than 18 while the others aren't, despite Shiro being, at oldest earl 20's and the paladins being around mid to late teens.
4th Aug '17 8:23:34 PM Arcana4th
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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'': There's an age issue on the fandom. The characters age or even who is the oldest and youngest among the paladins is unknown to this day and changes based on what each member of the production says. Fanon runs wild with interpretations of age and even led to a FandomBerserkButton regarding ships of Shiro/Paladins, due to accusations that said ships would be pedophilia, due to Shiro being older than 18 while the others aren't, despite Shiro being, at oldest earl 20's and the paladins being around mid to late teens.
3rd Aug '17 1:46:58 PM RacattackForce
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* Creator/AlexHirsch answers plenty of questions about ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', but since it's a mystery series, there's plenty of questions he can't answer without giving spoilers. He's come up with a number of bizarre things to put in place of spoilers, including pictures of an Axolotl--which becomes a bizarre sort of BrickJoke in the GrandFinale, as there's a backward message from [[spoiler:a dying Bill Cipher]] calling out to "Axolotl" as if invoking the power of a god. Additionally, there're plenty of questions he just doesn't want to ever answer, which includes many that are just inappropriate but also questions as to [[AmbiguouslyJewish the Pines family's religion]].
** He was asked if Pacifica is an ImpliedLoveInterest for Dipper to which he simply said, "You'll have to ask Dipper". This is never resolved in the series. It seemed like she was if only because she was the one female character that didn't have an episode saying they ''wouldn't'' get together. Dipper's real name was also never revealed, although Alex claimed it was similar to Mabel's name.
** Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 actually answers a lot of these questions and more, including Dipper's name and his feelings toward Pacifica.

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* Creator/AlexHirsch answers plenty of questions about ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', but since it's a mystery series, there's plenty of questions he can't answer without giving spoilers. He's come up with a number of bizarre things to put in place of spoilers, including pictures of an Axolotl--which becomes a bizarre sort of BrickJoke in the GrandFinale, as there's a backward message from [[spoiler:a dying Bill Cipher]] calling out to "Axolotl" as if invoking the power of a god. Additionally, there're plenty of questions he just doesn't want to ever answer, which includes many that are just inappropriate but also questions as to [[AmbiguouslyJewish the Pines family's religion]].
** He was asked if Pacifica is an ImpliedLoveInterest for Dipper to which he simply said, "You'll have to ask Dipper". This is never resolved in
religion]]. A decent number of the series. It seemed like she was if only because she was the one female character that didn't have an episode saying they ''wouldn't'' get together. bigger questions are answered in Literature/GravityFallsJournal3, however, such as Dipper's real name was also never revealed, although Alex claimed it was similar to Mabel's name.
** Literature/GravityFallsJournal3 actually answers a lot of these questions and more, including Dipper's name and his feelings toward Pacifica.
name.
3rd Aug '17 1:44:35 PM RacattackForce
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* Glen Murakami of ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' fame is (in)famous for not caring about the finer points that get the {{Fandom}} up in arms. The Shrug Of God is the official answer to ''anything'' related to whether or not it's in continuity with the other Franchise/{{DCAU}} cartoons, anything to do with the characters' origins or out-of-costume lives (most famously, which Robin it is), and pretty much anything not detailed onscreen. General fan consensus is that ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' isn't part of the [=DCAU=] and Robin is Dick Grayson, but ThePowersThatBe have never answered yes or no, not considering these things to be important.[[labelnote:With that in mind...]]That said, show writer David Slack [[WordOfSaintPaul has stated that]] the Robin we see is Dick Grayson, with everything from the show itself (the relationship with Starfire, the scene with two trapeze artists falling to their doom, the series being based on the 1980s incarnation of the team, "Larry" aka [[SdrawkcabName Nosyarg Kcid]] or "Dick Grayson" backwards, Robin becoming Nightwing in an alternate future, etc.) backing him up. Both the [[ComicBook/TeenTitansGo comic book continuation]] and the SpinOff series, officially confirm this information as well.[[/labelnote]]

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* Glen Murakami of ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' fame is (in)famous for not caring about the finer points that get the {{Fandom}} up in arms. The Shrug Of God is the official answer to ''anything'' related to whether or not it's in continuity with the other Franchise/{{DCAU}} cartoons, anything to do with the characters' origins or out-of-costume lives (most famously, which Robin it is), and pretty much anything not detailed onscreen. General fan consensus is that ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' isn't part of the [=DCAU=] and Robin is Dick Grayson, but ThePowersThatBe have never answered yes or no, not considering these things to be important.[[labelnote:With that in mind...]]That said, show writer David Slack [[WordOfSaintPaul has stated that]] the Robin we see is Dick Grayson, with everything from the show itself (the relationship with Starfire, the scene with two trapeze artists falling to their doom, the series being based on the 1980s incarnation of the team, "Larry" aka [[SdrawkcabName Nosyarg Kcid]] or "Dick Grayson" backwards, Robin becoming Nightwing in an alternate future, etc.) backing him up. Both the [[ComicBook/TeenTitansGo comic book continuation]] and the SpinOff series, series officially confirm this information Robin to be Dick Grayson as well.[[/labelnote]]
3rd Aug '17 1:43:11 PM RacattackForce
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* Glen Murakami of ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' fame is (in)famous for not caring about the finer points that get the {{Fandom}} up in arms. The Shrug Of God is the official answer to ''anything'' related to whether or not it's in continuity with the other Franchise/{{DCAU}} cartoons, anything to do with the characters' origins or out-of-costume lives (most famously, which Robin it is), and pretty much anything not detailed onscreen. General fan consensus is that ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' isn't part of the [=DCAU=] and Robin is Dick Grayson, but ThePowersThatBe have never answered yes or no, not considering these things to be important.
** David Slack, a writer for the show, disagrees, having stated that the Robin we see is Dick Grayson.
** Admittedly all evidence in the show clearly points to Robin being Dick Grayson. The relationship with Starfire, the scene with two trapeze artists falling to their doom when Raven mind searches him, and the fact that the series is based off the 80's incarnation of Teen Titans.
*** Also, "Larry," the impish Robin from another dimension, said his real name was [[SdrawkcabName Nosyarg Kcid]] or "Dick Grayson" backwards.
*** And his becoming Nightwing in an alternate future.
*** The comic book version of the show (called ''ComicBook/TeenTitansGo''), which continued past the show's end, later confirmed that this Robin was indeed Dick Grayson, as we see Robin without the mask for the first time, and Starfire refers to him as Dick.
** And the ''Teen Titans'' version of Speedy shows up in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''.

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* Glen Murakami of ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' fame is (in)famous for not caring about the finer points that get the {{Fandom}} up in arms. The Shrug Of God is the official answer to ''anything'' related to whether or not it's in continuity with the other Franchise/{{DCAU}} cartoons, anything to do with the characters' origins or out-of-costume lives (most famously, which Robin it is), and pretty much anything not detailed onscreen. General fan consensus is that ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' isn't part of the [=DCAU=] and Robin is Dick Grayson, but ThePowersThatBe have never answered yes or no, not considering these things to be important.
** David Slack, a
important.[[labelnote:With that in mind...]]That said, show writer for the show, disagrees, having David Slack [[WordOfSaintPaul has stated that that]] the Robin we see is Dick Grayson.
** Admittedly all evidence in
Grayson, with everything from the show clearly points to Robin being Dick Grayson. The itself (the relationship with Starfire, the scene with two trapeze artists falling to their doom when Raven mind searches him, and the fact that doom, the series is being based off on the 80's 1980s incarnation of Teen Titans.
*** Also, "Larry,"
the impish Robin from another dimension, said his real name was team, "Larry" aka [[SdrawkcabName Nosyarg Kcid]] or "Dick Grayson" backwards.
*** And his
backwards, Robin becoming Nightwing in an alternate future.
*** The
future, etc.) backing him up. Both the [[ComicBook/TeenTitansGo comic book version of continuation]] and the show (called ''ComicBook/TeenTitansGo''), which continued past the show's end, later confirmed that SpinOff series, officially confirm this Robin was indeed Dick Grayson, information as we see Robin without the mask for the first time, and Starfire refers to him as Dick.
well.[[/labelnote]]
** And the The ''Teen Titans'' version of Speedy shows up in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''.''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'', so take that as you will.
31st Jul '17 6:42:52 AM SpocktorWho
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** Although, WordofGod later confirmed that Chuck is indeed God, [[spoiler:and it was further confirmed in-universe in episode 11x20, "Don't Call Me Shurley".]]

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** Although, WordofGod WordOfGod later confirmed that [[spoiler: Chuck is indeed God, [[spoiler:and and it was further confirmed in-universe in episode 11x20, "Don't Call Me Shurley".]]
30th Jul '17 9:38:57 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* Whether Takatsuki from ''Manga/WanderingSon'' is transgender or cisgender is up in the air. Shimura said it's up to your interpretation.

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* Whether Takatsuki from ''Manga/WanderingSon'' is a transgender boy or simply a cisgender yet not exactly gender-conforming girl is up in the air. Shimura said it's up to your interpretation.the fans' interpretation. (Nitori remains a trans girl, however.)



* Devin Grayson, writer of ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' #93 where the title character is implied to have been raped by a female cohort during a HeroicBSOD, evaded the question when asked to confirm what happened beyond it being [[http://www.comicboards.com/devin.php "nonconsensual"]]. This is an irritating example, because the script for the issue does directly say that he was being raped. (This may have something to do with the female cohort in question being suspected by many of being her AuthorAvatar[=/=]MarySue.)

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* Devin Grayson, writer of ''ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}'' #93 where the title character is implied to have been raped by a female cohort during a HeroicBSOD, evaded the question when asked to confirm what happened beyond it being [[http://www.comicboards.com/devin.php "nonconsensual"]]. This is an irritating example, because the script for the issue does directly say that he was being raped. (This may have something to do with the female cohort in question question, Tarantula, being suspected by many of being her AuthorAvatar[=/=]MarySue.AuthorAvatar and probable Mary Sue.)
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