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10th Jan '18 7:05:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Raptors}}'': Camilla murders a dog before killing its owner, since he was part of the conspiracy she was opposed to.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Raptors}}'': Camilla murders kills a dog before killing murdering its owner, since he was part of the conspiracy she was opposed to.
8th Jan '18 6:36:54 AM lillolillo
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* In the fourth issue of ''ComicBook/SupergirlCosmicAdventuresInThe8thGrade'', Streaky the Supercat appears to be de-stabilizing a reactor core to blow the school up, so Lena decides to shoot him. However ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} stops her.
-->'''Supergirl:''' You were trying to shoot the cat!\\
'''Lena:''' I was stopping the cat from destroying us all!
24th Dec '17 5:35:09 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Raptors}}'': Camilla murders a dog before killing its owner, since he was part of the conspiracy she was opposed to.
22nd Dec '17 7:27:07 PM Icarael
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* The [[BadassLongcoat Commissars]] from ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' are justified in [[YouHaveFailedMe shooting their men]] as maintaining unit cohesiveness for the cost of a few men is preferable to having many more die in the chaos of a general rout.
** [[TheEmpire the Imperium]] regularly Blows Up The Planet The Dog Was Living On in response to the worst outbreaks of heresy, daemon invasions, or alien threats. Billions are killed, but the alternative is generally much, much ''worse.''
** The number of times preventative measures such as Exterminatus are justified are balanced by the equal number of times in which they are not, but are used anyway because the people in power are deranged lunatics like the Monodominants. It is a rather [[WorldHalfEmpty grim setting]] after all.
*** All instances of Exterminatus are put under Inquisitorial review. If insufficient justification is found, the person who ordered it is sentenced to immediate execution, or to be killed on sight if they have already fled. Also, Exterminatus is not used nearly as often as [[FanDumb certain parts]] of the fandom make it seem. Exterminatus being {{Flanderiz|ation}}ed into something the Imperium does if someone on a planet sneezes and it sounds vaguely like "Chaos!" is pure {{Fanon}}.
** This is based on the real life way old fashioned armies operated. When a military unit (UK anyway) forms up to do drill, the [=NCOs=] are at the back of the formation and march behind the unit. They were originally there to shoot soldiers who ran from the enemy, as formation drill was originally about standing up with no cover in massed ranks and shooting at each other. The idea was that if you stand there and take the fire, there's a pretty good chance you'll be shot, but if you run the Sergeant will definitely get you.
*** In many countries desertion in the face of the enemy (as opposed to going AWOL) holds the death penalty if convicted by a Court Martial.
*** Including the US, though rarely invoked nowadays.

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* TabletopGame/Warhammer40000:
** [[TheEmpire
The [[BadassLongcoat Imperium of Man]] regularly Blows Up The Planet The Dog Was Living On in response to the worst outbreaks of heresy, daemonic incursions, or alien threats. Billions are killed, and the planet is rendered uninhabitable or destroyed, but the alternative is generally much, much ''worse.'' To enforce this trope, a special Inquisitorial group scrutinizes every use of Exterminatus: if insufficient justification is found, the person who ordered it is sentenced to immediate execution, or to be killed on sight if they have already fled. (The [[MemeticMutation meme]] of Exterminatus being performed by the Imperium because someone on a planet sneezes and it sounds vaguely like "Chaos!" is pure {{Fanon}} and/or BlackComedy.)
** The [[ThePoliticalOfficer
Commissars]] from ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' are justified in [[YouHaveFailedMe shooting their men]] as maintaining unit cohesiveness for the cost of a few men is preferable to having many more die in the chaos of a general rout.
** [[TheEmpire the Imperium]] regularly Blows Up The Planet The Dog Was Living On in response to the worst outbreaks of heresy, daemon invasions, or alien threats. Billions are killed, but the alternative is generally much, much ''worse.''
** The number of times preventative measures such as Exterminatus are justified are balanced by the equal number of times in which they are not, but are used anyway because the people in power are deranged lunatics like the Monodominants. It is a rather [[WorldHalfEmpty grim setting]] after all.
*** All instances of Exterminatus are put under Inquisitorial review. If insufficient justification is found, the person who ordered it is sentenced to immediate execution, or to be killed on sight if they have already fled. Also, Exterminatus is not used nearly as often as [[FanDumb certain parts]] of the fandom make it seem. Exterminatus being {{Flanderiz|ation}}ed into something the Imperium does if someone on a planet sneezes and it sounds vaguely like "Chaos!" is pure {{Fanon}}.
** This is based on the real life way old fashioned armies operated. When a military unit (UK anyway) forms up to do drill, the [=NCOs=] are at the back of the formation and march behind the unit. They were originally there to shoot soldiers who ran from the enemy, as formation drill was originally about standing up with no cover in massed ranks and shooting at each other. The idea was that if you stand there and take the fire, there's a pretty good chance you'll be shot, but if you run the Sergeant will definitely get you.
*** In many countries desertion in the face of the enemy (as opposed to going AWOL) holds the death penalty if convicted by a Court Martial.
*** Including the US, though rarely invoked nowadays.
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14th Dec '17 9:01:46 AM chopshop
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* ''ComicBook/BeastWarsUprising'' is an extended deconstruction of this. In the GrayAndGrayMorality of the Grand Uprising, many factions and characters are willing to Shoot The Dog if victory depends on it... a fact that does nothing but [[FromBadToWorse make the conflict even worse]], as [[GodzillaThreshold it pushes everybody else into increasingly extreme acts out of fear and desperation]]. Most notably, Lio Convoy's near-constant and ruthless dog-shooting not only leaves him [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone overwrought with crippling guilt]], but also pushes the Builders into unleashing [[spoiler:the Vehicon plague, which quickly spirals out of control and threatens to destroy the entire planet]]. It's also clear that many of the crimes committed for the supposed "greater good" are actually done out of [[HanlonsRazor incompetence or self-gratification rather than intelligent pragmatism]]. In the end, [[spoiler:the real heroes who save Cybertron end up being people like the Ex-Bots or Hot Rod, who refused to let the war corrupt them and did everything they could to find a better way. The DistantFinale shows that most of the dog-shooters get remembered as little more than idiots and bastards who almost got everyone killed.]]


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* In ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', [[BigGood Rose Quartz]] had to do this a couple of times during the Gem War. She [[spoiler:betrayed [[KnightTemplar Bismuth]] and covered up what happened, as the alternatives were letting Bismuth [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope genocide the Diamonds and their allies]] or telling her army the truth and sowing discord at the worst time possible]]. She also may have [[spoiler:murdered Pink Diamond]] to save Earth, though recent revelations have called into question whether she was actually responsible; [[StealingTheCredit she certainly took credit for it though]]. Steven's view of his mother is badly damaged by learning of all this, as he wonders if her quasi-DeathByChildbirth was just a way to escape the consequences of her actions.
15th Sep '17 4:18:35 AM Tikaya
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** WordOfGod has it that only was Kyoshi actively advocating that Aang kill the Fire Lord. Yangchen's advice ("be prepared to sacrifice your spiritual needs") is ambiguous, as Yangchen was not necessarily stating that killing Ozai was the ''best'' option; she was only telling Aang that, if a better option didn't present itself, killing Ozai was a very viable option, and not something to be dismissed out of hand because Aang was feeling squeamish.

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** WordOfGod has it that only was Kyoshi was actively advocating that Aang kill the Fire Lord. Yangchen's advice ("be prepared to sacrifice your spiritual needs") is ambiguous, as Yangchen was not necessarily stating that killing Ozai was the ''best'' option; she was only telling Aang that, if a better option didn't present itself, killing Ozai was a very viable option, and not something to be dismissed out of hand because Aang was feeling squeamish.
13th Aug '17 9:38:38 PM infernape612
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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'' [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]], Samantha Shepard experiences a HeroicBSOD that tilts her away from her usual paragon self, but in the sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', she has MyGodWhatHaveIDone breakdown that makes her question why anyone else would keep her around. Others justify retaining Shepard (rather than imprisoning her for war crimes) based on [[IDidWhatIHadToDo She Did What She Had To Do]]. There are plenty of other morally-questionable actions throughout that may or may not have been {{Justified}} InUniverse through IDidWhatIHadToDo but nonetheless qualify as shooting the dog:

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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'' ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]], Samantha Shepard experiences a HeroicBSOD that tilts her away from her usual paragon self, but in the sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', she has MyGodWhatHaveIDone breakdown that makes her question why anyone else would keep her around. Others justify retaining Shepard (rather than imprisoning her for war crimes) based on [[IDidWhatIHadToDo She Did What She Had To Do]]. There are plenty of other morally-questionable actions throughout that may or may not have been {{Justified}} InUniverse through IDidWhatIHadToDo but nonetheless qualify as shooting the dog:



* One of the key factors that makes the ''Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames'' universe an AU is that Princess Twilight wasn't able to talk Starlight Glimmer down like she was able to do in canon. So she was forced to defeat her by [[spoiler: retgoning the original by adopting her younger self from her OrphanageOfFear and taking her to the future]]. It's made perfectly clear that this really ''was'' the only choice Twilight had. Despite this, and her friends, brother, and fellow princesses assuring her that her decision was necessary to save Equestria, she's massively haunted by it. [[spoiler: Especially since she thinks the Original Starlight set up her time traveling scheme as a SuicideByCop gambit, not to mention how [[AscendedFridgeHorror Twilight's fully aware]] of the [[ButterflyOfDoom possible consequences of rewriting part of the timeline]]. ]]
** ''Integration'' has [[BigGood Celestia]] telling Twilight's friends that part of helping her rule will sometimes require making difficult decisions with harsh consequences. When they all show fear of doing this, [[TheSacredDarkness Luna]] tells them that that's actually good, because hating the responsibility means not only will they'll be able to handle it better than most ponies, they'll truly manage keep any decisions like that to an absolutely last resort.

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* One of the key factors that makes the ''Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames'' universe an AU is that Princess Twilight wasn't able to talk Starlight Glimmer down like she was able to do in canon. So she was forced to defeat her by [[spoiler: retgoning the original by adopting her younger self from her OrphanageOfFear and taking her to the future]]. It's made perfectly clear that this really ''was'' the only choice Twilight had. Despite this, and her friends, brother, and fellow princesses assuring her that her decision was necessary to save Equestria, she's massively haunted by it. [[spoiler: Especially since she thinks the Original Starlight set up her time traveling scheme as a SuicideByCop gambit, not to mention how [[AscendedFridgeHorror Twilight's fully aware]] of the [[ButterflyOfDoom possible consequences of rewriting part of the timeline]]. ]]
** ''Integration'' has [[BigGood Celestia]] telling Twilight's friends that part of helping her rule will sometimes require making difficult decisions with harsh consequences. When they all show fear of doing this, [[TheSacredDarkness Luna]] tells them that that's actually good, because hating the responsibility means not only will they'll be able to handle it better than most ponies, they'll truly manage to keep any decisions like that to an absolutely last resort.
18th Jul '17 1:02:35 PM Materioptikon
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* One of the key factors that makes the ''Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames'' universe an AU is that Princess Twilight wasn't able to talk Starlight Glimmer down like she was able to do in canon. So she was forced to defeat her by [[spoiler: retgoning the original by adopting her younger self from her OrphanageOfFear and taking her to the future]]. It's made perfectly clear that this really ''was'' the only choice Twilight had. Despite this, and her friends, brother, and fellow princesses assuring her that her decision was nessecary to save Equestria, she's massively haunted by it. [[spoiler: Especially since she thinks the Original Starlight set up her time traveling scheme as a SuicideByCop gambit, not to mention how [[AscendedFridgeHorror Twilight's fully aware]] of the [[ButterflyOfDoom possible consequences of rewriting part of the timeline]]. ]]

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* One of the key factors that makes the ''Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames'' universe an AU is that Princess Twilight wasn't able to talk Starlight Glimmer down like she was able to do in canon. So she was forced to defeat her by [[spoiler: retgoning the original by adopting her younger self from her OrphanageOfFear and taking her to the future]]. It's made perfectly clear that this really ''was'' the only choice Twilight had. Despite this, and her friends, brother, and fellow princesses assuring her that her decision was nessecary necessary to save Equestria, she's massively haunted by it. [[spoiler: Especially since she thinks the Original Starlight set up her time traveling scheme as a SuicideByCop gambit, not to mention how [[AscendedFridgeHorror Twilight's fully aware]] of the [[ButterflyOfDoom possible consequences of rewriting part of the timeline]]. ]]
6th Jun '17 7:54:14 PM SeekerSS
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When a protagonist does [[DirtyBusiness an ambiguously (a)moral act]] because current circumstances make it the most pragmatic and logical thing to do. If TheHero performs the job himself, he may even go so far as to hide it from the rest of the cast (possibly with [[PoorCommunicationKills serious repercussions later]]) due to the risk of [[SlaveToPR compromising his moral standards]], or they might say WhatTheHellHero to which he might reply IDidWhatIHadToDo. Otherwise, he may delegate it to the AntiHero or TheLancer, whose reputations won't be hurt as severely for the deed. May demonstrate WhatYouAreInTheDark.

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When a protagonist character does [[DirtyBusiness an ambiguously (a)moral act]] because current circumstances make it the most pragmatic and logical thing to do. If TheHero performs the job himself, he may even go so far as to hide it from the rest of the cast (possibly with [[PoorCommunicationKills serious repercussions later]]) due to the risk of [[SlaveToPR compromising his moral standards]], or they might say WhatTheHellHero to which he might reply IDidWhatIHadToDo. Otherwise, he may delegate it to the AntiHero or TheLancer, whose reputations won't be hurt as severely for the deed. May demonstrate WhatYouAreInTheDark.
17th May '17 9:13:34 AM SteveMB
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--->'''Green Lantern:''' What are you saying? Misuse of the trope. That's Kick the dog at best

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--->'''Green Lantern:''' What are you saying? Misuse of the trope. That's Kick the dog at bestsaying?
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