History Main / ShootTheRope

16th Aug '17 11:51:08 AM HissingRooster
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Arguably, using bullets at all is fueled by RealityIsUnrealistic: People are used to thinking of bullets as having immense destructive power, which [[TruthInTelevision they do]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock when shot into a fluid-filled object]] like a human body. Otherwise, their destructive capabilities are limited to the direct path of a projectile that's much more narrow than an arrow head.

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Arguably, using bullets at all is fueled by RealityIsUnrealistic: People are used to thinking of bullets as having immense destructive power, which [[TruthInTelevision they do]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock when shot into a fluid-filled object]] like a human body. Otherwise, their destructive capabilities are limited to the direct path of a projectile that's much more narrow than an arrow head.
head. However the real problem of this trope is not splitting the rope, it is possible to split a rope with a bullet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5_f5NGpMq4, the real problem is hitting the rope. During the hanging the victim may struggle while conscious, and when they loose consciousness their bodies begin to convulse. Which can make the rope difficult to hit.
16th Aug '17 11:42:31 AM HissingRooster
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After the 1860's this would be less likely because the proper method was not commonly used before the 1860's. Though in a few cases hangmen have ''deliberately'' "botched" the hanging to make the victim's death more painful (for example, after Nazi journalist and war criminal [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher Julius Streicher]] yelled "Heil Hitler" ''and'' insulted the executioner just before his execution, it is widely believed that the hangman [[KicktheSonOfABitch repositioned the noose so that he would be suffocated]], nevermind how said hangman always denied having done so). Another possibility was to pay out so much rope that when the drop finally ended, the body energy got so high that the head ''[[OffWithHisHead was torn off]]''.

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After the 1860's this short drop hanging would be become less likely because common in favor of the proper method was not commonly used before the 1860's."proper" long drop hanging. Though in a few cases hangmen have ''deliberately'' "botched" the hanging to make the victim's death more painful (for example, after Nazi journalist and war criminal [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher Julius Streicher]] yelled "Heil Hitler" ''and'' insulted the executioner just before his execution, it is widely believed that the hangman [[KicktheSonOfABitch repositioned the noose so that he would be suffocated]], nevermind how said hangman always denied having done so). Another possibility was to pay out so much rope that when the drop finally ended, the body energy got so high that the head ''[[OffWithHisHead was torn off]]''.
1st Jul '17 4:51:54 PM HissingRooster
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After the 1860's this would be less likely because the proper method was not commonly used before the 1860's. Though in a few cases hangmen have ''deliberately'' "botched" the hanging to make the victim's death more painful (for example, after Nazi journalist and war criminal [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher Julius Streicher]] yelled "Heil Hitler" ''and'' insulted the executioner just before his execution, it is widely believed that the hangman [[KicktheSonOfABitch repositioned the noose so that he would be strangled]], nevermind how said hangman always denied having done so). Another possibility was to pay out so much rope that when the drop finally ended, the body energy got so high that the head ''[[OffWithHisHead was torn off]]''.

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After the 1860's this would be less likely because the proper method was not commonly used before the 1860's. Though in a few cases hangmen have ''deliberately'' "botched" the hanging to make the victim's death more painful (for example, after Nazi journalist and war criminal [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher Julius Streicher]] yelled "Heil Hitler" ''and'' insulted the executioner just before his execution, it is widely believed that the hangman [[KicktheSonOfABitch repositioned the noose so that he would be strangled]], suffocated]], nevermind how said hangman always denied having done so). Another possibility was to pay out so much rope that when the drop finally ended, the body energy got so high that the head ''[[OffWithHisHead was torn off]]''.
1st Jul '17 4:51:06 PM HissingRooster
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You see, people may have only figured out how to do hanging consistently correctly in the nineteenth century, but then they started to do it the scientific way. Normal, "long drop" hanging kills by '''breaking the neck''' when done ''correctly'' -- that is, in a Robin Hood story the slowly strangling victim is not so implausible, because they haven't yet figured how much rope to use, and this often resulted in "short drop" hanging, where the body's energy was not enough to break the neck, and the rope just slowly strangled the victim. However the person hanging should no be able to gasp as what causes the victim to die is the tongue being forced back in the mouth sealing the wind pipe and causing them to suffocate. However if the noose is positioned in a specific way the victim may be able to breath slightly and thus gasp for air.

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You see, people may have only figured out how to do hanging consistently correctly in the nineteenth century, but then they started to do it the scientific way. Normal, "long drop" hanging kills by '''breaking the neck''' when done ''correctly'' -- that is, in a Robin Hood story the slowly strangling suffocating the victim is not so implausible, because they haven't yet figured how much rope to use, and this often resulted in "short drop" hanging, where the body's energy was not enough to break the neck, and the rope just slowly strangled suffocates the victim. However the person hanging should no be able to gasp as We say suffocate because what causes the victim to die is the tongue being forced back in the mouth sealing off the wind pipe and causing them to suffocate. However if the noose is positioned in a specific way the victim may be able to breath slightly and thus gasp for air.
1st Jul '17 4:49:39 PM HissingRooster
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You see, people may have only figured out how to do hanging consistently correctly in the nineteenth century, but then they started to do it the scientific way. Normal, "long drop" hanging kills by '''breaking the neck''' when done ''correctly'' -- that is, in a Robin Hood story the slowly strangling victim is not so implausible, because they haven't yet figured how much rope to use, and this often resulted in "short drop" hanging, where the body's energy was not enough to break the neck, and the rope just slowly strangled the victim.

After the 1860's this would be less likely because the proper method was not commonly used before the 1860's. Though in a few cases hangmen have ''deliberately'' "botched" the hanging to make the victim's death more painful (for example, after Nazi journalist and war criminal [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher Julius Streicher]] yelled "Heil Hitler" ''and'' insulted the executioner just before his execution, it is widely believed that the hangman [[KicktheSonOfABitch repositioned the noose so that he would be strangled]], nevermind how said hangman always denied having done so). Another possibility was to pay out so much rope that when the drop finally ended, the body energy got so high that the head ''[[OffWithHisHead was torn off]]''.

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You see, people may have only figured out how to do hanging consistently correctly in the nineteenth century, but then they started to do it the scientific way. Normal, "long drop" hanging kills by '''breaking the neck''' when done ''correctly'' -- that is, in a Robin Hood story the slowly strangling victim is not so implausible, because they haven't yet figured how much rope to use, and this often resulted in "short drop" hanging, where the body's energy was not enough to break the neck, and the rope just slowly strangled the victim.

victim. However the person hanging should no be able to gasp as what causes the victim to die is the tongue being forced back in the mouth sealing the wind pipe and causing them to suffocate. However if the noose is positioned in a specific way the victim may be able to breath slightly and thus gasp for air.

After the 1860's this would be less likely because the proper method was not commonly used before the 1860's. Though in a few cases hangmen have ''deliberately'' "botched" the hanging to make the victim's death more painful (for example, after Nazi journalist and war criminal [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher Julius Streicher]] yelled "Heil Hitler" ''and'' insulted the executioner just before his execution, it is widely believed that the hangman [[KicktheSonOfABitch repositioned the noose so that he would be strangled]], nevermind how said hangman always denied having done so). Another possibility was to pay out so much rope that when the drop finally ended, the body energy got so high that the head ''[[OffWithHisHead was torn off]]''.
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8th Mar '17 9:19:25 AM doomquokka
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A comedic subversion of this has the arrow not quite split the rope all the way, leaving the victim dangling (and strangling) until his rescuers can finish the job. If the victim struggles to breathe in the process, you have a case of either not doing the research, an incompetent or an exceptionally cruel hangman.

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A comedic subversion of this has the arrow not quite split the rope all the way, leaving the victim dangling (and strangling) until his rescuers can finish the job. If the victim struggles to breathe in the process, you have a case of either not doing the research, or an incompetent or an exceptionally cruel hangman.
18th Jan '17 12:38:29 PM ChaoticNovelist
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The hero's been [[PublicExecution led to the gallows]] and is about to do the metaphorical "hemp fandango". He looks pretty much boned, right? Nope, TheCavalary! They'll save him by [[ImprobableAimingSkills splitting the rope]] on the noose with a well-timed arrow (or a blade, or a bullet, if the time period's a bit later), just as he's about to take a long drop on a short rope.

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The hero's been [[PublicExecution led to the gallows]] and is about to do the metaphorical "hemp fandango". He looks pretty much boned, right? Nope, TheCavalary! TheCavalry! They'll save him by [[ImprobableAimingSkills splitting the rope]] on the noose with a well-timed arrow (or a blade, or a bullet, if the time period's a bit later), just as he's about to take a long drop on a short rope.
18th Jan '17 12:37:49 PM ChaoticNovelist
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The hero's been [[PublicExecution led to the gallows]] and is about to do the metaphorical "hemp fandango". He looks pretty much boned, right? Nope, the BigDamnHeroes are on the way! They'll save him by [[ImprobableAimingSkills splitting the rope]] on the noose with a well-timed arrow (or a blade, or a bullet, if the time period's a bit later), just as he's about to take a long drop on a short rope.

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The hero's been [[PublicExecution led to the gallows]] and is about to do the metaphorical "hemp fandango". He looks pretty much boned, right? Nope, the BigDamnHeroes are on the way! TheCavalary! They'll save him by [[ImprobableAimingSkills splitting the rope]] on the noose with a well-timed arrow (or a blade, or a bullet, if the time period's a bit later), just as he's about to take a long drop on a short rope.



Arguably, using bullets at all is fueled by RealityIsUnrealistic: People are used to thinking of bullets as having immense destructive power, which [[TruthInTelevision they do]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock when shot into a fluid-filled object]] like a human body. But otherwise, their destructive capabilities are limited to the direct path of a projectile that's much more narrow than an arrow head.

Oh, and bonus points if this dramatically super accurate shot comes directly after a firefight in which ATeamFiring was in full effect. A subtrope of ImprobableAimingSkills

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Arguably, using bullets at all is fueled by RealityIsUnrealistic: People are used to thinking of bullets as having immense destructive power, which [[TruthInTelevision they do]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock when shot into a fluid-filled object]] like a human body. But otherwise, Otherwise, their destructive capabilities are limited to the direct path of a projectile that's much more narrow than an arrow head.

Oh, and bonus points if this dramatically super accurate shot comes directly after a firefight in which ATeamFiring was in full effect. A subtrope of ImprobableAimingSkills
ImprobableAimingSkills.
29th Dec '16 3:21:17 AM JackG
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': The Doctor has to do this during his Trial By Ordeal in "The Face of Evil".

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': The Doctor has to do this during his Trial By Ordeal in "The Face of Evil". In this case he's standing on a plank over a pit of nasty biting creatures, holding a crossbow with only one quarrel. The rope is attached to a weight, pulling machinery that's opening the pit beneath him. The rope gets thinner the longer you wait (making it easier to cut) but the weight moves faster.
9th Dec '16 1:38:41 PM upupandaway42
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* In the ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' episode [[Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS2E6OutlawCountry "Outlaw Country"]], [[Comicbook/BlackCanary Sara]] saves the hanging Comicbook/JonahHex by shooting the rope, while it's swinging, no less.
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