History Main / ShapeshifterBaggage

14th Apr '16 6:32:22 AM Prime32
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This can also apply to characters with a HealingFactor, as many of them appear to be able to regenerate biomass from thin air. Tropes that avert using Shapeshifter Baggage are PullingThemselvesTogether and AppendageAssimilation. Compare ElementalBaggage and see RequiredSecondaryPowers.

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This can also apply to characters with a HealingFactor, as many of them appear to be able to regenerate biomass from thin air. Tropes that avert using Shapeshifter Baggage are PullingThemselvesTogether PullingThemselvesTogether, AppendageAssimilation and AppendageAssimilation.KibblesAndBits. Compare ElementalBaggage and see RequiredSecondaryPowers.
5th Apr '16 8:24:17 PM Kid
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** it isn't stated that Angua is a similar mass in either form but the differential isn't huge - about 25% - so a short human woman would weigh about 50kg and a male wolf up to 45kg

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** it It isn't stated that Angua is a similar mass in either form but the differential isn't huge - about 25% - so a short human woman would weigh about 50kg and a male wolf up to 45kg
17th Mar '16 9:49:43 AM Kuruni
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** In the "Literature/GalaxyOfFear" series, the race known as the Shi'ido can shape-shift. It's explained that due to their extremely long lifespan, in which they can live for 500 years and only people older than 61 are considered adults (makes you wonder what their drinking age is), their shapeshifting ability improves with age. Young Shi'ido can only change skin color, older ones could change into any humanoid species they wanted, and ones even older can change into whatever. However, if they tried to change beyond their natural boundaries, they'd be [[ModeLock stuck in that form for weeks or months]]. How exactly they could change isn't well explained, but ''The Essential Guide to Alien Species'' said something to the effect (if this editor remembers) that they have folds of extra skin under their skin that they can use if they need to to change into larger or smaller species (or rocks and trees, apparently). Also, since some species identify others with smell as well as sight, and the Shi'ido aren't perfect at what they do, it's explained that they use telepathy to get around (what could be described as) LatexPerfection.

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** In the "Literature/GalaxyOfFear" series, the race known as the Shi'ido can shape-shift. It's explained that due to their extremely long lifespan, in which they can live for 500 years and only people older than 61 are considered adults (makes you wonder what their drinking age is), their shapeshifting ability improves with age. Young Shi'ido can only change skin color, older ones could change into any humanoid species they wanted, and ones even older can change into whatever. However, if they tried to change beyond their natural boundaries, they'd be [[ModeLock stuck in that form for weeks or months]]. How exactly they could change isn't well explained, but ''The Essential Guide to Alien Species'' said something to the effect (if this editor remembers) that they have folds of extra skin under their skin that they can use if they need to to change into larger or smaller species (or rocks and trees, apparently). Also, since some species identify others with smell as well as sight, and the Shi'ido aren't perfect at what they do, it's explained that they use telepathy to get around (what could be described as) LatexPerfection.
16th Mar '16 9:26:01 PM PaulA
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* In ''Literature/ExpirationDate'', a fugitive ghost is briefly able to disguise the body it's inhabiting by adding biomass to increase the body's height and shape. The question of where the extra biomass comes from is addressed, and it's not pleasant: [[spoiler:it's taken from the dog that was hunting them, which does not survive the process]].
10th Mar '16 11:21:43 AM awe777
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** But that will violate the conservation of charge.



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13th Feb '16 1:47:19 AM captainpat
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* Happens often in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', as it seems [[{{Mana}} chakra]] has NoConservationOfEnergy. One of the biggest offenders is when [[spoiler:Orochimaru]]'s [[OneWingedAngel true form]] is revealed when he spits out a baseball-sized piece of something through his throat... which grows into a monster ''several times the size of his body''.
** The second biggest offender is Kimimaro, who can grow bones from his body and use them as weapons, apparently just by controlling the hormones of his body. Putting aside that [[RequiredSecondaryPowers he apparently needs to be able to survive removing his own bones without bleeding to death]] this would also require his body to have an infinite amount of calcium to make the bones out of.

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* Happens often in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', as it seems [[{{Mana}} chakra]] has NoConservationOfEnergy. One of the biggest offenders is when [[spoiler:Orochimaru]]'s
**[[spoiler:Orochimaru]]'s
[[OneWingedAngel true form]] is revealed when he spits out a baseball-sized piece of something through his throat... which grows into a monster ''several times the size of his body''.
** The second biggest offender is Kimimaro, who Kimimaro can grow bones from his body and use them as weapons, apparently just by controlling the hormones of his body. Putting aside that [[RequiredSecondaryPowers he apparently needs to be able to survive removing his own bones without bleeding to death]] this would also require his body to have an infinite amount of calcium to make the bones out of.



* ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' is explained in greater depth down the page in Animation, but the comics have the same issues with Megatron transforming into a gun and Soundwave and Blaster as cassette players, all about big enough to fit in their hands in robot mode. Possibly the most egregious offender of all is Broadside, a triple-changer with alt-modes as both an aircraft and an aircraft carrier.

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* ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' is explained in greater depth down the page in Animation, but the comics have the same issues with Megatron transforming into a gun and Soundwave and Blaster as cassette players, all about big enough to fit in their hands in robot mode. Possibly the most egregious offender of all is A more noticeable example is Broadside, a triple-changer with alt-modes as both an aircraft and an aircraft carrier.



* A pretty [[TVTropesDrinkingGame egregious]] offender is the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series, where injecting oneself with any of the mutating serums tends to cause the subject to double in size and sprout all manner of tentacles and spikes. In ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'', [[spoiler: Irving]] goes from being about 5ft tall to twice the size of a blue whale in about 10 seconds. They truly outdid themselves with [[spoiler:Derek Simmons]] in ''Videogame/ResidentEvil6''. Not only does he grow into a massive T-Rex thing about the size of the average office building, but he ''freely transforms back and forth between this and his human form during the fight'' with absolutely no explanation of how it's possible.

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* A pretty [[TVTropesDrinkingGame egregious]] offender is Numerous cases in the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series, where injecting oneself with any of the mutating serums tends to cause the subject to double in size and sprout all manner of tentacles and spikes. In ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'', [[spoiler: Irving]] goes from being about 5ft tall to twice the size of a blue whale in about 10 seconds. They truly outdid themselves with [[spoiler:Derek Simmons]] in ''Videogame/ResidentEvil6''. Not only does he grow into a massive T-Rex thing about the size of the average office building, but he ''freely transforms back and forth between this and his human form during the fight'' with absolutely no explanation of how it's possible.
23rd Jan '16 6:25:35 AM XadhoomXado
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* Ben 10 [[JustifiedTrope Justifies]] this with the [[TransformationTrinket Omni/Ultimatrix]] being the source of all Ben's added and lost mass.
21st Jan '16 10:47:03 AM Antigone3
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* Handwaved in ''Literature/TheElvenbane'', wherein the dragons explain that when they change from huge firebreathing beasties into humans or elves, the extra mass goes into an extraplanar space they call [[{{Hammerspace}} the Out]]. (A similar conceit is implied in the D&D universe, even though the transformations are magical.) A dragon in human form, when viewed in the magical spectrum, can be seen as a human surrounded by a dragony "shadow".

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* Handwaved in ''Literature/TheElvenbane'', wherein the dragons explain that when they change from huge firebreathing beasties into humans or elves, the ''Literature/TheHalfBloodChronicles'', by Creator/MercedesLackey and Creator/AndreNorton. Dragons shapeshifting to a smaller form have to shunt their extra mass goes into an extraplanar space they call [[{{Hammerspace}} the Out]]. (A similar conceit is implied in the D&D universe, even though the transformations are magical.) Out]]. A dragon in human form, when viewed in the magical spectrum, can be seen as a human surrounded by a dragony "shadow"."shadow". This shunting also takes a certain level of skill on the dragon's part. Taking a form that's the same size as the dragon in question is simple, taking a form as small as a human or elf is a challenge.



* In Creator/MercedesLackey's and Creator/AndreNorton's ''[[Literature/TheHalfBloodChronicles Elvenblood]]'' series, where shapeshifting dragons shift excess mass into the "Out", which is implied to be AnotherDimension. Not all dragons are equally skilled, so only the best can assume radically smaller forms such as humans and elves.
11th Jan '16 12:50:05 PM Soldancer
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If the issue is brought up at all, it's only to avert the trope by pointedly illustrating that its [[VoluntaryShapeshifting shifters]] ''cannot'' change mass and/or size. Or they may HandWave the issue with some [[MinovskyPhysics quasi-scientific]] AppliedPhlebotinum, e.g., 'Pym Particles' in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse. It's also possible that the character draws mass from an extra-dimensional source, or sends mass there when they get small (if any explanation is given to magical shapeshifters, it's usually this).

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If the issue is brought up at all, it's only to avert the trope by pointedly illustrating that its [[VoluntaryShapeshifting shifters]] ''cannot'' change mass and/or size. Or they may HandWave the issue with some [[MinovskyPhysics quasi-scientific]] AppliedPhlebotinum, e.g., [[ComicBook/AntMan 'Pym Particles' Particles']] in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse. It's also possible that the character draws mass from an extra-dimensional source, or sends mass there when they get small (if any explanation is given to magical shapeshifters, it's usually this).
30th Dec '15 3:21:28 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* Several [[http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm dragons]] can take an alternative form of a medium size animal or humanoid. The smallest shape-shifting dragon can weigh 1/8 lb or less, the biggest can weigh ''125 Tons'' or more.

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* Several [[http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm dragons]] can take an alternative form of a medium size animal or humanoid. The smallest shape-shifting dragon can weigh 1/8 lb or less, the biggest can weigh ''125 Tons'' or more. Conversely, Polymorph and similar spells allow the caster to transform him/herself or someone else into from a small animal to a dragon or another creature of similar size.
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