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13th Sep '17 1:40:41 PM x_countryguy
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* In ''Manga/{{Gantz}}'', the final boss of the Osaka mission "Nurarihyon" could change shape and size from a little old man to a monster the size of a high rise building, and is capable of splitting to multiple variable life forms of himself and demonstrates different powers with every different forms he assumes. He could survive being squashed to a puddle of blood and reform to another different gigantic monster instantly. [[spoiler: He was eventually killed off by consecutive blasts that squashed him to a blood puddle (again) by the main team leader, taking the bridge along with him. ]]

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* In ''Manga/{{Gantz}}'', the final boss of the Osaka mission "Nurarihyon" could change shape and size from a little old man to a monster the size of a high rise building, and is capable of splitting to multiple variable life forms of himself and demonstrates different powers with every different forms he assumes. He could survive being squashed to a puddle of blood and reform to another different gigantic monster instantly. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He was eventually killed off by consecutive blasts that squashed him to a blood puddle (again) by the main team leader, taking the bridge along with him. ]]



* Numerous cases in the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series, where injecting oneself with any of the mutating serums tends to cause the subject to double in size and sprout all manner of tentacles and spikes. In ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'', [[spoiler: Irving]] goes from being about 5ft tall to twice the size of a blue whale in about 10 seconds. They truly outdid themselves with [[spoiler:Derek Simmons]] in ''Videogame/ResidentEvil6''. Not only does he grow into a massive T-Rex thing about the size of the average office building, but he ''freely transforms back and forth between this and his human form during the fight'' with absolutely no explanation of how it's possible.

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* Numerous cases in the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series, where injecting oneself with any of the mutating serums tends to cause the subject to double in size and sprout all manner of tentacles and spikes. In ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'', [[spoiler: Irving]] [[spoiler:Irving]] goes from being about 5ft tall to twice the size of a blue whale in about 10 seconds. They truly outdid themselves with [[spoiler:Derek Simmons]] in ''Videogame/ResidentEvil6''. Not only does he grow into a massive T-Rex thing about the size of the average office building, but he ''freely transforms back and forth between this and his human form during the fight'' with absolutely no explanation of how it's possible.



** Clayface in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' is a gargantuan monstrosity, towering well above anybody in the game including TITAN henchmen and Bane. And yet [[spoiler:in the whole game he takes the form of the Joker, one of (if not the) thinnest character in the game]]. He could theoretically be completely hollow inside, but then his [[ShapeshifterWeapon hammer-hands attacks]] would probably not hurt that much. Maybe he left most of his mass in the theater, while only going with a smaller body's worth to the steel mill. Thats why the theater is boarded up - Clayface is still in there. Its also possible that he is extremely dense and used his acting abilities and shape shifting abilities during [[spoiler: the fight with Clayface!Joker just before Protocol 10]] to fool Batman.

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** Clayface in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' is a gargantuan monstrosity, towering well above anybody in the game including TITAN henchmen and Bane. And yet [[spoiler:in the whole game he takes the form of the Joker, one of (if not the) thinnest character in the game]]. He could theoretically be completely hollow inside, but then his [[ShapeshifterWeapon hammer-hands attacks]] would probably not hurt that much. Maybe he left most of his mass in the theater, while only going with a smaller body's worth to the steel mill. Thats why the theater is boarded up - Clayface is still in there. Its also possible that he is extremely dense and used his acting abilities and shape shifting abilities during [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the fight with Clayface!Joker just before Protocol 10]] to fool Batman.
2nd Sep '17 3:31:02 PM BattleMaster
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* Goes all over the place in the ''Literature/MercyThompson'' series. Werewolves always gain mass when they transform: a woman who's 120 pounds as a human will be more like 180 pounds as a werewolf. Adam, who's a pretty big guy when he's human, becomes an enormous werewolf. Mercy, on the other hand, is a mere thirty pounds as a coyote. She also admits to being totally baffled by how [[TheFairFolk fae]] glamours work, as they're not exactly shapeshifting yet can still, in her words, "somehow allow a nine foot tall ogre to fit into a size four dress."
1st Sep '17 9:34:15 PM superslinger2007
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* Defied in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. John Connor asks the Arnie T-800 why the enemy T-1000 doesn't just turn into a handgun or a bomb to kill John, but the T-800 explains that the liquid metal terminator cannot alter its size, nor can it form complex machinery made up of many different chemicals. What it ''can'' do is form solid metal shapes, an ability it puts to good use throughout the film.

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* Defied in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. John Connor asks the Arnie T-800 why the enemy T-1000 doesn't just turn into a handgun or a bomb to kill John, but the T-800 explains that the liquid metal terminator cannot alter its size, nor can it form complex machinery made up of many parts or use different chemicals. What it ''can'' do is form solid metal shapes, an ability it puts to good use throughout the film.
1st Sep '17 9:26:58 AM TheCheshireCat
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* In ''VideoGame/NetHack'' regeneration is handled realistically - while under any sort of rapid regeneration effect (either granted magically or naturally), your hunger meter will drain 50% faster than normal. Polymorphing however, is not - you can polymorph into anything from a tiny bat to a gigantic dragon with no explanation for where the extra mass comes from/goes. Some monsters will do this regularly, such as wererats which rapidly shift between human and rat forms, or chameleons, whose natural form is the same size as a real life chameleon but who can change into any other creature in the game.


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** Interestingly, the same is true in reverse for animal life. One would think that someone who undergoes significant weight loss would have excreted most of that weight via the usual "waste disposal" methods, but it is actually mostly expelled via breathing - the CO2 expelled is denser than the O2 inhaled and over time this adds up to a lot more than urination/defecation.
12th Aug '17 3:33:46 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ''Film/{{Species}}'' starts out fairly well with this, with Sil having to eat huge amounts of food to maintain her bamboo-like growth rate. Then the realism level crashes and burns when she goes into her cocoon and comes out a mature woman who has to weigh about twice as much as the little girl that went in. There's an attempt to justify it by explaining her food consumption as "storing up calories for some big event" except if that was true she should have been visibly bloated from holding her own weight in food in her stomach, and she wasn't (at most, child Sil is slightly chubbier before the cocoon). The whole cocoon process was probably mostly just made up so Sil could go straight from asexual child to mature sexpot without a [[LoliCon logical but family-unfriendly intermediate stage]]. They repeat this with [[spoiler:[[EnfantTerrible her offspring]]]], whose rapid growth rate is fueled by gobbling up sewer rats, but who then becomes visibly larger without any proportionate mass intake when he assumes his OneWingedAngel form.

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* ''Film/{{Species}}'' starts out fairly well with this, with Sil having to eat huge amounts of food to maintain her bamboo-like growth rate. Then the realism level crashes and burns when she goes into her cocoon and comes out a mature woman who has to weigh about twice as much as the little girl that went in. There's an attempt to justify it by explaining her food consumption as "storing up calories for some big event" except if that was true she should have been visibly bloated from holding her own weight in food in her stomach, and she wasn't (at most, child Sil is slightly chubbier before the cocoon). The whole cocoon process was probably mostly just made up so Sil could go straight from asexual child to mature sexpot without a [[LoliCon logical but family-unfriendly intermediate stage]].stage. They repeat this with [[spoiler:[[EnfantTerrible her offspring]]]], whose rapid growth rate is fueled by gobbling up sewer rats, but who then becomes visibly larger without any proportionate mass intake when he assumes his OneWingedAngel form.
5th Aug '17 11:33:07 PM StrangeBro
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** Clawdites, the species of the female bounty hunter in ''Attack of the Clones''. For them to transform it requires great concentration, which was broken slightly during the speeder chase with Anakin, and they are incapable of changing mass significantly.

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** Clawdites, the species of the female bounty hunter in ''Attack of the Clones''. For them to transform it requires great concentration, which was broken slightly during the speeder chase with Anakin, and they are incapable of changing mass significantly. The [[TabletopGame/StarWarsRoleplayingGame RPG expansion]] that introduces Clawdites as a playable race notes that their shapeshifting ability is fluid-based, and that some individuals use a specially-built saline pump on their person to increase or decrease their mass. Even then, however, growing or shrinking beyond the size of an average humanoid is out of the question.
28th Jul '17 7:53:39 PM hellomoto
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* An ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' monster can't violate conservation of mass, but people aren't fooled by the 1.5 ton abandoned baby. [[http://oglaf.com/weepingwoods/ So it finds another way...]]

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* An ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' monster can't violate conservation of mass, but people aren't fooled by the 1.5 ton a giant abandoned baby. [[http://oglaf.com/weepingwoods/ baby that's the size of 300 babies. So it finds another way...[[spoiler:turns into a pile of 300 babies.]]
10th Jul '17 8:30:09 AM soren82002
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* In Brandon Mull's series "Beyonders", there is a shapeshifter with a limited amount of mass. To kill it, one must cut pieces off until it becomes small enough to be ignored. The shapeshifter mentions it uses copious amounts of internal body armor if it needs to disguise its mass.
1st Jul '17 7:29:12 AM fractured
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**Explanations have been given for the particularly grievous examples like the above mentioned case of Broadside, wherein he is made up of a large number of armored plates that decompress and fold out to recreate the large mass of an aircraft carrier.
13th May '17 7:04:33 PM DarkHunter
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* Defied in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. John Connor asks the Arnie T-800 why the enemy T-1000 doesn't just turn into a handgun or a bomb to kill John, but the T-800 explains that the liquid metal terminator cannot change mass at will or imitate complex weapons.

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* Defied in ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. John Connor asks the Arnie T-800 why the enemy T-1000 doesn't just turn into a handgun or a bomb to kill John, but the T-800 explains that the liquid metal terminator cannot change mass at will or imitate alter its size, nor can it form complex weapons.machinery made up of many different chemicals. What it ''can'' do is form solid metal shapes, an ability it puts to good use throughout the film.
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