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17th May '18 4:14:05 PM Prime32
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* The various ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' editions are titled ''Dungeons & Dragons'', ''Dungeons & Dragons Basic Set'', ''Advanced Dungeons & Dragons'', ''Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd Edition'', ''Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition'', ''Dungeons & Dragons v3.5'' (a minor revision), ''Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition'', and ''Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition''. While the relationships between early versions isn't hard and fast (they were considered the same game, just aimed at different audiences, and were largely compatible until the Basic Set was revised in 1981), there's no way 5th Edition is actually the 5th version of the game.

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* The various ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' editions are titled ''Dungeons & Dragons'', ''Dungeons & Dragons Basic Set'', ''Advanced Dungeons & Dragons'', ''Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd Edition'', ''Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition'', ''Dungeons & Dragons v3.5'' (a minor revision), ''Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition'', Edition'' (plus its {{Retool}} ''Essentials'', which isn't counted as a new edition), and ''Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition''. While the relationships between early versions isn't hard and fast (they were considered the same game, just aimed at different audiences, and were largely compatible until the Basic Set was revised in 1981), there's no way 5th Edition is actually the 5th version of the game.
18th Apr '18 12:45:25 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* The first game in the ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' series was simply ''VideoGame/{{Assassins Creed|I}}'', the sequel was ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII'', followed by ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''. It then went back to numbered sequels with ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'', which is the fifth game. While the snarl was justified with ''Brotherhood'' and ''Revelations'' for revisiting a previous protagonist instead of presenting an all-new story, ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIV'' was numbered ''and'' a prequel to ''III''. Numbering fell apart for good after that. ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRogue'' has a new protagonist and takes place between ''IV'' and ''III''. ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedUnity'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedSyndicate'' both have completely new protagonists and take place in new time periods but do not get numbers. Then we now have ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedOrigins''; the tenth game in the franchise whose Assassin's story is a prequel to the rest of the games.

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* The first game in the ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' series was simply ''VideoGame/{{Assassins Creed|I}}'', the sequel was ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII'', followed by ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''. It then went back to numbered sequels with ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'', which is the fifth game. While the snarl was justified with ''Brotherhood'' and ''Revelations'' for revisiting a previous protagonist instead of presenting an all-new story, ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIV'' was numbered ''and'' a prequel to ''III''. Numbering fell apart for good after that. ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRogue'' has a new protagonist and takes place between ''IV'' and ''III''. ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedUnity'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedSyndicate'' both have completely new protagonists and take place in new time periods but do not get numbers. Then we now have ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedOrigins''; the tenth game in the franchise whose Assassin's story is a prequel to the rest of the games. Although if sorted by the order of the modern times framing device instead of the historical time it just follows production order.
18th Apr '18 12:40:17 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** Played for laughs in a cinema prelude to Twelve's debut, where Strax notes that the numbering of Doctor gets "tricky" as you go on.

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** *** Played for laughs in a cinema prelude to Twelve's debut, where Strax notes that the numbering of Doctor gets "tricky" as you go on.


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*** The Doctor herself gets around the whole business by counting personalities and regenerations separately. X Doctors, one incarnation who didn't claim the title, one extra regeneration burned.
16th Mar '18 5:02:28 PM nombretomado
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** Season numbering can be quite confusing. Does Nu Who start again, which means distinguishing between two Season Ones? (Wiki/TheOtherWiki calls Creator/WilliamHartnell's first season Season 1, and Creator/ChristopherEccleston's season Series 1, as does Creator/TheBBC website - while still being at pains to point out that it's all the same series.) Or do you just keep going past Season 26, as many fans do? (ThisVeryWiki's Recap page lists both.) Creator/StevenMoffat confused things further by claiming in ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' that if Creator/MattSmith's first season wasn't Season 31 (because it's all one thing), then it was Series 1 (since it was as much a split from what had come before as the initial relaunch), before later admitting that he'd called it Series 5 in all practical situations. And then there's the split series 6A and 6B (Not to be confused with ''[[{{Fanon}} Season 6b]]'') ... or season 32A and 32B.

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** Season numbering can be quite confusing. Does Nu Who start again, which means distinguishing between two Season Ones? (Wiki/TheOtherWiki calls Creator/WilliamHartnell's first season Season 1, and Creator/ChristopherEccleston's season Series 1, as does Creator/TheBBC website - while still being at pains to point out that it's all the same series.) Or do you just keep going past Season 26, as many fans do? (ThisVeryWiki's (Wiki/ThisVeryWiki's Recap page lists both.) Creator/StevenMoffat confused things further by claiming in ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' that if Creator/MattSmith's first season wasn't Season 31 (because it's all one thing), then it was Series 1 (since it was as much a split from what had come before as the initial relaunch), before later admitting that he'd called it Series 5 in all practical situations. And then there's the split series 6A and 6B (Not to be confused with ''[[{{Fanon}} Season 6b]]'') ... or season 32A and 32B.
14th Mar '18 5:00:40 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* ''VideoGame/{{BEMANI}}'' games often have spinoff games between numbered versions. The smallest example of this trope is every ''VideoGame/{{beatmania}} IIDX'' game from ''beatmania IIDX 2nd Style'' onwards actually being the ''n''+1st game due to ''beatmania IIDX substream'' being released between ''1st Style'' and ''2nd Style''. Things get even more complicated with other numbered ''BEMANI'' games.
10th Mar '18 12:09:29 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/BubbleBobble'' (originally released for the arcades in 1986) was followed by numerous sequels such as ''VideoGame/RainbowIslands: The Story of Bubble Bobble 2'' (a 1987 arcade sequel that played nothing like the first game), ''Parasol Stars: The Story of Bubble Bobble III'' (a TurboGrafx16 sequel to ''Rainbow Islands'' released in 1991), ''Bubble Bobble Part 2'' (an NES sequel to the original game released in 1993), ''Bubble Symphony'' (the third arcade game in the series, released in 1994 and also known as ''Bubble Bobble II'' in North America) and ''Bubble Memories: The Story of Bubble Bobble III'' (the last game in the main series, released for the arcades in 1996).

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* ''VideoGame/BubbleBobble'' (originally released for the arcades in 1986) was followed by numerous sequels such as ''VideoGame/RainbowIslands: The Story of Bubble Bobble 2'' (a 1987 arcade sequel that played nothing like the first game), ''Parasol Stars: The Story of Bubble Bobble III'' (a TurboGrafx16 UsefulNotes/TurboGrafx16 sequel to ''Rainbow Islands'' released in 1991), ''Bubble Bobble Part 2'' (an NES sequel to the original game released in 1993), ''Bubble Symphony'' (the third arcade game in the series, released in 1994 and also known as ''Bubble Bobble II'' in North America) and ''Bubble Memories: The Story of Bubble Bobble III'' (the last game in the main series, released for the arcades in 1996).
22nd Feb '18 10:58:56 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' started out in chronological order but the [[Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy fifth]] and [[Literature/TheMagiciansNephew sixth]] books were, respectively, a {{interquel}} and a {{prequel}}. Later editions of the series number the books in chronological order, but many fans maintain that reading them in publication order is more rewarding, because the prequel contains [[CallForward references that only make sense if you've read the other books first]]. As for Creator/CSLewis himself, he never really cared about the order in which people read his books.

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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' started out in chronological order but the [[Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy fifth]] and [[Literature/TheMagiciansNephew sixth]] books were, respectively, a {{interquel}} and a {{prequel}}. Later editions of the series number the books in chronological order, but many fans maintain that reading them in publication order is more rewarding, rewarding because the prequel contains [[CallForward references that only make sense if you've read the other books first]]. As for Creator/CSLewis himself, he never really cared about the order in which people read his books.
20th Feb '18 7:48:31 PM TropesForever
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* ''VideoGame/LittleBigPlanet'' only counts the console games with numbered sequels. This means that ''[=LittleBigPlanet=] 2'' is actually the ''third'' game in the series (or fourth, if you count spinoff ''Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves''), because of the release of the PSP ''[=LittleBigPlanet=]'' in between the original [=PS3=] ''[=LittleBigPlanet=]'' and ''[=LBP2=]''. This also means that ''[=LittleBigPlanet=] 3'' can be anywhere from the fifth to the ''seventh'' game in the series ([=LBP1, LBP PSP, (Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves), LBP2, LBP Vita, (LBP Karting) LBP3=]).

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* ''VideoGame/LittleBigPlanet'' only counts the console games with numbered sequels. This means that ''[=LittleBigPlanet=] 2'' is actually the ''third'' game in the series (or fourth, if you count spinoff ''Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves''), because of the release of the PSP ''[=LittleBigPlanet=]'' in between the original [=PS3=] ''[=LittleBigPlanet=]'' and ''[=LBP2=]''. This also means that ''[=LittleBigPlanet=] 3'' can be anywhere from the fifth to the ''seventh'' ''eighth'' game in the series ([=LBP1, LBP PSP, (Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves), LBP2, LBP Vita, (LBP Karting) Karting), (''Run Sackboy! Run!''), LBP3=]).
6th Feb '18 1:50:34 PM MegaMarioMan
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* ''VideoGame/LittleBigPlanet'' only counts the console games with numbered sequels. This means that ''[=LittleBigPlanet=] 2'' is actually the ''third'' game in the series (or fourth, if you count spinoff ''Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves''), because of the release of the PSP ''[=LittleBigPlanet=]'' in between the original [=PS3=] ''[=LittleBigPlanet=]'' and ''[=LBP2=]''. This also means that ''[=LittleBigPlanet=] 3'' can be anywhere from the fifth to the ''seventh'' game in the series ([=LBP1, LBP PSP, (Sackboy's Prehistoric Moves), LBP2, LBP Vita, (LBP Karting) LBP3=]).
26th Jan '18 12:56:30 AM xoriak
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* Apple's iPhone. First we have the iPhone, which is followed by the iPhone 3G, named so because of its 3G network capabilities. Back in 2008 (and still today), people (used to) ask whether there was an iPhone 2G. Since the original iPhone ran on 2G networks, some referred to it as the [[FanNickname iPhone 2G]]. The iPhone 3G was followed by the iPhone 3GS, a phone nearly identical to the iPhone 3G in terms of design, but with a better camera and processor (The "S" stands for speed.). Logically, a lot of people thought the next iPhone would run on 4G networks, and thus would be called the 4G. The next iPhone did not have such functionality, though. Instead, it was named the iPhone 4, since it was the [[NumberedSequels fourth version of the iPhone Apple produced]]. Logically again, people inferred that the next iPhone would be called the iPhone 5. Wrong again! It's the iPhone 4S, without 4G capabilities (unless you count AT&T's experimental HSPA+ as 4G). Apple's next phone (at long last, with 4G LTE capabilities) was then named the iPhone 5... [[FridgeLogic despite being Apple's sixth-generation iPhone]]. What will the next phone be called, people wondered. 5G? 5S? 6? The next iPhone actually WAS called the 5S, but it was released alongside another iPhone -- The 5C. The next iteration was the comparatively sane 6 and 6 Plus.

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* Apple's iPhone. First we have the iPhone, which is followed by the iPhone 3G, named so because of its 3G network capabilities. Back in 2008 (and still today), people (used to) ask whether there was an iPhone 2G. Since the original iPhone ran on 2G networks, some referred to it as the [[FanNickname iPhone 2G]]. The iPhone 3G was followed by the iPhone 3GS, a phone nearly identical to the iPhone 3G in terms of design, but with a better camera and processor (The "S" stands for speed.). Logically, a lot of people thought the next iPhone would run on 4G networks, and thus would be called the 4G. The next iPhone did not have such functionality, though. Instead, it was named the iPhone 4, since it was the [[NumberedSequels fourth version of the iPhone Apple produced]]. Logically again, people inferred that the next iPhone would be called the iPhone 5. Wrong again! It's the iPhone 4S, without 4G capabilities (unless you count AT&T's experimental HSPA+ as 4G). Apple's next phone (at long last, with 4G LTE capabilities) was then named the iPhone 5... [[FridgeLogic despite being Apple's sixth-generation iPhone]]. What will the next phone be called, people wondered. 5G? 5S? 6? The next iPhone actually WAS called the 5S, but it was released alongside another iPhone -- The 5C. The next iteration was the iPhone. Apple appeared to have settled into a comparatively sane pattern by following iPhone 5 with 5S (along with 5C), 6 and 6 Plus.Plus, and 6S and 6S Plus. This trope comes back in full force in the eleventh-generation lineup: the iPhone 8, the iPhone 8 Plus, and the iPhone X (pronounced "iPhone ten")--named for the tenth anniversary of the original iPhone.
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