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22nd Mar '17 3:26:58 AM Cannox
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* Despite consisting entirely of NumberedSequels, the continuity in ''Franchise/FiveNightsAtFreddys'' is rather confusing (and that is before you add ''FNAF World'', which is most likely in an AlternateContinuity to begin with). What we know for sure, though, is that [[spoiler: 2 definitely takes place before 1, and 3 and 4 probably take place between 2 and 1.]]

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* Despite consisting entirely of NumberedSequels, the continuity in ''Franchise/FiveNightsAtFreddys'' is rather confusing (and that is before you add ''FNAF World'', which is most likely in an AlternateContinuity to begin with). What we know for sure, though, is that [[spoiler: 2 ''2'' definitely takes place before 1, ''1'', ''4'' may be set either before ''2'' or at the same time at ''2'']], ''3'' is set after ''1'', and 3 and 4 probably take place between 2 and 1.]]''Siter Location'' is set before 3.
26th Feb '17 10:12:45 PM gewunomox
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* The Traveling Wilburys named their first album ''Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1'', and their second album ''Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3'' -- either as a joke, or to reference their involvement in the charity album ''Nobody's Child: Romanian Angel Appeal'', which featured a track by the Wilburys, as well as two GeorgeHarrison songs, as a supposed Vol. 2.

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* The Traveling Wilburys named their first album ''Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1'', and their second album ''Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3'' -- either as a joke, or to reference their involvement in the charity album ''Nobody's Child: Romanian Angel Appeal'', which featured a track by the Wilburys, as well as two GeorgeHarrison Music/GeorgeHarrison songs, as a supposed Vol. 2.
20th Feb '17 8:20:39 AM nighttrainfm
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' season numbering can be equally confusing. Does Nu Who start again, which means distinguishing between two Season Ones? (TheOtherWiki calls Creator/WilliamHartnell's first season Season 1, and Creator/ChristopherEccleston's season Series 1, as does Creator/TheBBC website - while still being at pains to point out that it's all the same series.) Or do you just keep going past Season 26, as many fans do? (ThisVeryWiki's Recap page lists both.) Creator/StevenMoffat confused things further by claiming in ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' that if Creator/MattSmith's first season wasn't Season 31 (because it's all one thing), then it was Series 1 (since it was as much a split from what had come before as the initial relaunch), before later admitting that he'd called it Series 5 in all practical situations. And then there's the split series 6A and 6B (Not to be confused with ''[[{{Fanon}} Season 6b]]'') ... or season 32A and 32B.
** Interestingly this has been introduced in-universe with The Doctor, himself. Originally, when regeneration was introduced it wasn't stated that William Hartnell's character was in fact The First Doctor. The Fourth Doctor Episode, "The Brain of Morbius" has a scene indicating prior regenerations. However, it was later firmly established that The First Doctor was the original incarnation. Then comes "The Name of the Doctor" and "The Day of the Doctor" which introduced a new regeneration between 8 and 9. It was stated that The Doctor doesn't consider The War Doctor to be him, so he doesn't count in the numbering. Add in "Time of the Doctor" which stated that Ten's aborted regeneration actually counted and you have a situation where the current, Twelfth Doctor could technically be considered the Fourteenth.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' season ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** Season
numbering can be equally quite confusing. Does Nu Who start again, which means distinguishing between two Season Ones? (TheOtherWiki calls Creator/WilliamHartnell's first season Season 1, and Creator/ChristopherEccleston's season Series 1, as does Creator/TheBBC website - while still being at pains to point out that it's all the same series.) Or do you just keep going past Season 26, as many fans do? (ThisVeryWiki's Recap page lists both.) Creator/StevenMoffat confused things further by claiming in ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' that if Creator/MattSmith's first season wasn't Season 31 (because it's all one thing), then it was Series 1 (since it was as much a split from what had come before as the initial relaunch), before later admitting that he'd called it Series 5 in all practical situations. And then there's the split series 6A and 6B (Not to be confused with ''[[{{Fanon}} Season 6b]]'') ... or season 32A and 32B.
** Interestingly Interestingly, this has been introduced in-universe with The Doctor, the Doctor himself. Originally, when regeneration was introduced introduced, it wasn't stated that William Hartnell's character was in fact The the First Doctor. The Fourth Doctor Episode, episode "The Brain of Morbius" has a scene indicating prior regenerations. However, it was later firmly established that The the First Doctor was the original incarnation. Then comes "The Name of the Doctor" and "The Day of the Doctor" Doctor", which introduced a new regeneration between 8 and 9. It was stated that The the Doctor doesn't consider The the War Doctor to be him, so he doesn't count in the numbering. Add in "Time of the Doctor" which stated that Ten's aborted regeneration actually counted and you have a situation where the current, Twelfth Doctor could technically be considered the Fourteenth.Fourteenth.
** Played for laughs in a cinema prelude to Twelve's debut, where Strax notes that the numbering of Doctor gets "tricky" as you go on.
-->'''Strax:''' The Eleventh Doctor...possibly the Twelfth. Technically, the Thirteenth! Who can say?
19th Feb '17 11:04:25 PM TheGreatUnknown
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** Just to make things even more confusing, ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'', while technically a separate product, is really just a further revision of v3.5, and thus is frequently referred to by fans as "v3.75".
19th Feb '17 3:32:01 AM Ominae
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** Following ''Assault Horizon'', Project Aces would release ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatAssaultHorizonLegacy Assault Horizon Legacy]]'' (which actually has nothing to do with ''Assault Horizon'', being a [[VideoGameRemake remake]] of ''2'' that better ties the game into the Strangereal world, hence why it's known as ''Ace Combat 3D: Cross Rumble'' [[MarketBasedTitle in Japan]]), ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatNorthernWings Northern Wings]]'' (a [[DashedPlotLine "midquel"]] [[TheGreatestStoryNeverTold spanning the events of]] ''04'', ''5'', and ''6''), and ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity Infinity]]'' (another title set in the real world instead of Strangereal [[note]]the others being ''Joint Assault/X2'' and ''Assault Horizon''[[/note]], [[MythologyGag only with elements of nearly every other preceding game in the series]] and a WholePlotReference to ''04''). Then they announced ''VideoGame/AceCombat7'' for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, bringing this trope back in full force after a brief wane.

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** Following ''Assault Horizon'', Project Aces would release ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatAssaultHorizonLegacy Assault Horizon Legacy]]'' (which actually has nothing to do with ''Assault Horizon'', being a [[VideoGameRemake remake]] of ''2'' that better ties the game into the Strangereal world, hence why it's known as ''Ace Combat 3D: Cross Rumble'' [[MarketBasedTitle in Japan]]), ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatNorthernWings Northern Wings]]'' (a [[DashedPlotLine "midquel"]] [[TheGreatestStoryNeverTold spanning the events of]] ''04'', ''5'', and ''6''), and ''[[VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity Infinity]]'' (another title set in the real world instead of Strangereal [[note]]the others being ''Joint Assault/X2'' and ''Assault Horizon''[[/note]], [[MythologyGag only with elements of nearly every other preceding game in the series]] and a WholePlotReference to ''04''). Then they announced ''VideoGame/AceCombat7'' ''[[AceCombat7SkiesUnknown Ace Combat 7]]'' for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, bringing this trope back in full force after a brief wane.
12th Feb '17 10:38:19 AM Saurubiker
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* The ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon''series started as a trilogy of games on the arcade and NES consisting of the ''VideoGame/{{Double Dragon|I}}'', ''VideoGame/DoubleDragonIITheRevenge'' and ''Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone'' (or ''Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones'' on the NES). It was a followed by an unnumbered sequel (actually a reboot) for the Super NES titled ''Super Double Dragon'' (a.k.a. ''Return of Double Dragon'' in Japan), which was essentially treated as the unofficial "Double Dragon IV", to the point that when U.S. publisher Tradewest decided to develop a fighting game based on the ''WesternAnimation/DoubleDragon'' animated series, they named their game ''Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls''. An official ''VideoGame/DoubleDragonIV'' would eventually be released decades in 2016 for [=PS4=] and PC (via Steam), which was developed by the original team and follows the continuity of the NES versions.

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* The ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon''series ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon'' series started as a trilogy of games on the arcade and NES consisting of the ''VideoGame/{{Double Dragon|I}}'', ''VideoGame/DoubleDragonIITheRevenge'' and ''Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone'' (or ''Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones'' on the NES). It was a followed by an unnumbered sequel (actually a reboot) for the Super NES titled ''Super Double Dragon'' (a.k.a. ''Return of Double Dragon'' in Japan), which was essentially treated as the unofficial "Double Dragon IV", to the point that when U.S. publisher Tradewest decided to develop a fighting game based on the ''WesternAnimation/DoubleDragon'' animated series, they named their game ''Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls''. An official ''VideoGame/DoubleDragonIV'' would eventually be released decades in 2016 for [=PS4=] and PC (via Steam), which was developed by the original team and follows the continuity of the NES versions.



* The ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' sequels consists of ''Doom II: Hell on Earth'', ''Final Doom'' (built on the ''Doom II'' system), ''Doom 64'' (an [=N64=]-exclusive installment in the series), ''VideoGame/{{Doom 3}}'', ''Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil'' (an expansion of the original ''Doom 3'') and the 2016 reboot [[RecycledTitle simply titled]] ''VideoGame/{{Doom|2016}}''.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' sequels consists of ''Doom II: Hell on Earth'', ''Final Doom'' (built on the ''Doom II'' system), ''Doom 64'' (an [=N64=]-exclusive installment in the series), ''VideoGame/{{Doom 3}}'', ''Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil'' (an expansion of the original ''Doom 3'') and the 2016 reboot [[RecycledTitle simply titled]] ''VideoGame/{{Doom|2016}}''.''VideoGame/{{Doom|2016}}'' (initially announced as ''Doom IV'').



** ''Salamander'' is probably the most confusing entry in the series. It was originally developed as a sequel to ''Gradius'', but was eventually released as an original game instead. There were three main arcade versions produced, the original ''Salamander'' released in Japan and Europe (Version J and D, respectively), the ''Life Force'' release in North America (Version K), which had some minimal graphical changes but was mechanically identical to the original ''Salamander'', and the Japanese release of ''Life Force'' (Version N), which completely changed the backgrounds and enemy sprites and ditched the instant power-ups with a ''Gradius''-style selection meter system. The Famicom version of ''Salamander'' was essentially a combination of the Japanese ''Salamander'' and ''Life Force'' releases, adapting the graphical style of the former and the power-up system of the latter. The Famicom version was localized as ''Life Force'' on the NES. The MSX version of ''Salamander'' is actually a completely different game set in the same continuity as the MSX ''Gradius''/''Nemesis'' trilogy. The series eventually got a stand-alone sequel for the arcade exclusively in Japan, simply titled ''Salamander 2'', in 1996.

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** ''Salamander'' is probably the most confusing entry in the series. It was originally developed as a sequel to ''Gradius'', but was eventually released as an original game a spinoff instead. There were three main arcade versions produced, the original ''Salamander'' released in Japan and Europe (Version J and D, respectively), the ''Life Force'' release in North America (Version K), which had some minimal graphical changes but was mechanically identical to the original ''Salamander'', and the Japanese release of ''Life Force'' (Version N), which completely changed the backgrounds and enemy sprites and ditched the instant power-ups with a ''Gradius''-style selection meter system. The Famicom version of ''Salamander'' was essentially a combination of the Japanese ''Salamander'' and ''Life Force'' releases, adapting the graphical style of the former and the power-up system of the latter. The Famicom version was localized as ''Life Force'' on the NES. The MSX version of ''Salamander'' is actually a completely different game set in the same continuity as the MSX ''Gradius''/''Nemesis'' trilogy. The series eventually got a stand-alone sequel for the arcade exclusively in Japan, simply titled ''Salamander 2'', in 1996.



** ''Gradius II: Gofer's Ambition '', the arcade sequel to ''Gradius'' (released overseas as ''Vulcan Venture''), followed by ''Gofer's Ambition: Episode II'' on the MSX, known in Europe as ''Nemesis 3: The Eve of Destruction''. The Famicom version is simply titled ''Gradius II'' and was never ported to the NES, unlike its predecessors.
** ''Nemesis'', the Game Boy sequel to ''Gradius''. Followed by ''Nemesis II'', known as ''Gradius: The Interstellar Assault'' and ''Nemesis II: The Return of the Hero''. Known as ''Gradius'' and ''Gradius II'' on the ''Konami Gameboy Collection''.

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** ''Gradius II: Gofer's Ambition '', the arcade sequel to ''Gradius'' (released overseas as ''Vulcan Venture''), followed by ''Gofer's Ambition: Episode II'' on the MSX, known in Europe as ''Nemesis 3: The Eve of Destruction''. The Famicom version is simply titled ''Gradius II'' and was never ported to localized for the NES, unlike its predecessors.
** ''Nemesis'', the Game Boy sequel to ''Gradius''. Followed by ''Nemesis II'', known as ''Gradius: The Interstellar Assault'' and ''Nemesis II: The Return of the Hero''. Known Both games were re-released as ''Gradius'' and ''Gradius II'' respectively on the ''Konami Gameboy Game Boy Collection''.



** ''Gradius III: From Legend to Myth'', known simply as ''Gradius III'' on the SNES. The sequel to the arcade ''Gradius II''.

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** ''Gradius III: From Legend to Myth'', known simply as ''Gradius III'' on the SNES.Super NES. The sequel to the arcade ''Gradius II''.



** ''Gradius V''. A sequel to ''Gradius IV'', notable for being the only mainline entry released directly to consoles without an arcade version.

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** ''Gradius V''. A sequel to ''Gradius IV'', notable for being the only mainline entry released directly to consoles without an a prior arcade version.
1st Feb '17 1:41:52 PM Saurubiker
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* [=Nvidia=]'s [=GeForce=] series of graphic processors starts with the [=GeForce=] 256 and then goes 2-4, FX, 6-9 before switching to hundred numbers (e.g. 100, 200, 300) and then switching to tens with the current [=GeForce 10=] and the upcoming [=GeForce 20=].
1st Feb '17 12:10:09 PM Saurubiker
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* ''Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls'' is a fighting game spin-off of ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon'' that featured character from the ''Double Dragon'' [[WesternAnimation/DoubleDragon animated series]]. While there was never an official "Double Dragon IV", ''Double Dragon V'' seems to be counting the SNES-exclusive ''Super Double Dragon'' (aka ''Return of Double Dragon'') as the fourth game in the main series. Whether anyone considers ''Double Dragon V'' to be a true ''Double Dragon'' sequel is a whole 'nother debate (since it's a game of a completely different genre developed by Leland Interactive without Technos' involvement and with little resemblance to the previous games).

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* The ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon''series started as a trilogy of games on the arcade and NES consisting of the ''VideoGame/{{Double Dragon|I}}'', ''VideoGame/DoubleDragonIITheRevenge'' and ''Double Dragon V: 3: The Shadow Falls'' is a fighting game spin-off of ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon'' that featured character from the ''Double Dragon'' [[WesternAnimation/DoubleDragon animated series]]. While there was never an official "Double Dragon IV", Rosetta Stone'' (or ''Double Dragon V'' seems to be counting III: The Sacred Stones'' on the SNES-exclusive NES). It was a followed by an unnumbered sequel (actually a reboot) for the Super NES titled ''Super Double Dragon'' (aka (a.k.a. ''Return of Double Dragon'') Dragon'' in Japan), which was essentially treated as the fourth unofficial "Double Dragon IV", to the point that when U.S. publisher Tradewest decided to develop a fighting game in based on the main series. Whether anyone considers ''WesternAnimation/DoubleDragon'' animated series, they named their game ''Double Dragon V'' to V: The Shadow Falls''. An official ''VideoGame/DoubleDragonIV'' would eventually be a true ''Double Dragon'' sequel is a whole 'nother debate (since it's a game of a completely different genre released decades in 2016 for [=PS4=] and PC (via Steam), which was developed by Leland Interactive without Technos' involvement the original team and with little resemblance to follows the previous games).continuity of the NES versions.
30th Jan '17 5:49:24 PM slvstrChung
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* The main canonical games in the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' franchise, known collectively as the "Metal Gear Saga", consists of: the original [=MSX2=] games, ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake''; the original ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' (which was the first to use 3D polygon graphics, and a 3-dimensional figure is a solid--[[DontExplainTheJoke geddit?]]) and its numbered sequels (''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''); the PSP game ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' (originally considered "Metal Gear Solid 5" during its development) that takes place after ''Snake Eater'', and the two-part upcoming ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes'' & ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' which take place after it. There's also ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'', a predecessor to ''Peace Walker'' not directed by Kojima, and ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', a spin-off starring Raiden. And finally there's other sequels and spin-offs not part of the main continuity (''VideoGame/SnakesRevenge'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearAcid'', and the upcoming ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive'', which explicitly takes place in an AlternateTimeline).

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* The main canonical games in the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' franchise, known collectively as the "Metal Gear Saga", consists of: the original [=MSX2=] games, ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake''; the original ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' (which was PlayStation title''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' (the third game, and the first to use 3D polygon graphics, and a 3-dimensional figure is a solid--[[DontExplainTheJoke geddit?]]) and its numbered sequels (''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''); the PSP game ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' (originally considered "Metal Gear Solid 5" during its development) that takes place after ''Snake Eater'', and the two-part upcoming ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes'' & ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' which take place after it. There's also ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'', a predecessor to ''Peace Walker'' not directed by Kojima, and ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', a spin-off starring Raiden. And finally there's other sequels and spin-offs not part of the main continuity (''VideoGame/SnakesRevenge'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearAcid'', and the upcoming ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive'', which explicitly takes place in an AlternateTimeline).
30th Jan '17 5:48:35 PM slvstrChung
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* ''VideoGame/{{StarCraft|I}}'' was initially released on 31 March 1998. By 2009 the franchise included various novels, add-ons, etc., as well as a major ExpansionPack, ''Brood War''. When ''[[VideoGame/StarCraftII Starcraft II]]'' came out in 2010, there was a noticeable DoubleTake by some fans at the fact that it was "only" the first sequel.
* Similarly, the ''VideoGame/{{Homeworld}}'' franchise consists of three major installments, ''Homeworld'' (1999), ''Homeworld: Cataclysm'' (2000), and ''Homeworld 2'' (2003)

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* ''VideoGame/{{StarCraft|I}}'' was initially released on 31 March 1998. By 2009 the franchise included various novels, add-ons, etc., as well as a major ExpansionPack, ''Brood War''. When ''[[VideoGame/StarCraftII Starcraft II]]'' came out in 2010, there was a noticeable DoubleTake by some fans at the fact that it was "only" the first sequel.
sequel. As though to confuse things further, it came in three parts (''[[VideoGame/StarCraftIIWingsOfLiberty Wings Of Liberty]]'', ''[[VideoGame/StarCraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm Heart of the Swarm]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/StarCraftIILegacyOfTheVoid Legacy Of The Void]]''), and it's difficult to know whether to consider each of them separate video games or expansion packs or what.
* Similarly, the ''VideoGame/{{Homeworld}}'' franchise consists of three major installments, ''Homeworld'' (1999), ''Homeworld: Cataclysm'' (2000), and ''Homeworld 2'' (2003)(2003), and the prequel ''Homeworld: Shipbreakers'' (2016).



* The main canonical games in the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' franchise, known collectively as the "Metal Gear Saga", consists of the original [=MSX2=] games, ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake'', the original ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' (which was originally titled "Metal Gear 3" during its early planning), its numbered sequels (''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''), the PSP game ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' (originally considered "Metal Gear Solid 5" during its development) and the upcoming ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''. There's also ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'', a predecessor to ''Peace Walker'' not directed by Kojima, ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', a spin-off starring Raiden, and other sequels and spin-offs not part of the main continuity (''VideoGame/SnakesRevenge'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGearAcid'').

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* The main canonical games in the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' franchise, known collectively as the "Metal Gear Saga", consists of of: the original [=MSX2=] games, ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake'', ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake''; the original ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' (which was originally titled "Metal Gear 3" during its early planning), the first to use 3D polygon graphics, and a 3-dimensional figure is a solid--[[DontExplainTheJoke geddit?]]) and its numbered sequels (''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''), ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''); the PSP game ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' (originally considered "Metal Gear Solid 5" during its development) that takes place after ''Snake Eater'', and the two-part upcoming ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''. ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes'' & ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' which take place after it. There's also ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'', a predecessor to ''Peace Walker'' not directed by Kojima, and ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', a spin-off starring Raiden, and Raiden. And finally there's other sequels and spin-offs not part of the main continuity (''VideoGame/SnakesRevenge'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearAcid'', and ''VideoGame/MetalGearAcid'').the upcoming ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive'', which explicitly takes place in an AlternateTimeline).
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