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29th Apr '18 4:10:46 AM anza_sb
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* In ''Disney/BigHero6'', [[spoiler:Hiro's big brother Tadashi]] runs into a burning building to try to save [[spoiler:Professor Callaghan]]. He doesn't make it, and it's assumed [[spoiler:Callaghan]] died too. It turns out [[spoiler:Callaghan was the one who started the fire to cover his theft of Hiro's microbots]], and he escaped unharmed]]. [[spoiler:Hiro]] does NOT take it well upon finding out [[spoiler:his brother]] died for nothing.

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* In ''Disney/BigHero6'', [[spoiler:Hiro's big brother Tadashi]] runs into a burning building to try to save [[spoiler:Professor Callaghan]]. He doesn't make it, and it's assumed [[spoiler:Callaghan]] died too. It turns out [[spoiler:Callaghan was the one who started the fire to cover his theft of Hiro's microbots]], microbots, and he escaped unharmed]]. [[spoiler:Hiro]] does NOT take it well upon finding out [[spoiler:his brother]] died for nothing.
29th Apr '18 4:03:17 AM anza_sb
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->''"Sacrifice is a death that has meaning. When it is in vain, it is not a sacrifice. It is a *waste*."''

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->''"Sacrifice is a death that has meaning. When it is in vain, it is not a sacrifice. It is a *waste*.a'' waste''."''



* Played for drama during the climax of ''Film/{{Captain America The Winter Soldier}}''. [[spoiler: As the Hydra agents prepare to board the helcarriers,]] many S.H.I.E.L.D agents try to stop them and are killed without even slowing them down.

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Played for drama during the climax of ''Film/{{Captain America The Winter Soldier}}''. [[spoiler: As the Hydra agents prepare to board the helcarriers,]] many S.H.I.E.L.D agents try to stop them and are killed without even slowing them down.down.
** In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'',[[spoiler:Vision ends up sacrificing himself by letting Wanda destroy the Mind Stone in his head before Thanos is able to get it, killing him in the process. It worked, but then Thanos renders Vision's sacrifice moot by reversing his death with the Time Stone he acquired earlier, before ripping the Mind Stone off the android's head, killing him again.]]
24th Apr '18 2:15:56 AM StFan
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* In the manga version of ''Manga/ElfenLied'', doomed clumsy girl Kisaragi is informed by Kurama that she must be sacrificed in order to kill Lucy, who has taken her hostage. She agrees to this readily, owing to her deep feelings for her boss. Arguably, the anime, wherein Lucy simply kills her ASAP, leaving a dumb look on the poor girl's floating severed head, owns the shock value. But when Lucy is able to use her hostage's death to confuse things just enough to help ensure her escape, she does not hesitate to taunt the hell out of Kurama, stating 'Her Death Was Useless!'.
** Though Kisaragi's death ''does'' inspire Kurama not to try sacrifice anyone else to stop Lucy. This ends up saving Nana's life later.
* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', legendary [[AnIcePerson ice mage]] Ur sacrifices her life (sort of) to seal the demon Deliora in unbreakable, unmeltable ice for eternity. Since Deliora was a rampaging beast of destruction, that seems awfully noble of her--until you recall that the ''reason'' she did this was to snap one of her two pupils out of his RevengeBeforeReason obsession. It worked--only for the ''other'' pupil to head down a similarly destructive path after her sacrifice.
** Many, ''many'' chapters later, it actually helps out. Ultear, her true daughter, finds out that her mother has become one with the ice and can reconcile with her due to being separated for genetic experiments and the scientists lying to Ur's face that her daughter was dead.

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* In the manga version of ''Manga/ElfenLied'', doomed clumsy girl Kisaragi is informed by Kurama that she must be sacrificed in order to kill Lucy, who has taken her hostage. She agrees to this readily, owing to her deep feelings for her boss. Arguably, the anime, wherein Lucy simply kills her ASAP, leaving a dumb look on the poor girl's floating severed head, owns the shock value. But when Lucy is able to use her hostage's death to confuse things just enough to help ensure her escape, she does not hesitate to taunt the hell out of Kurama, stating 'Her "Her Death Was Useless!'.
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Useless!" Though Kisaragi's death ''does'' inspire Kurama not to try sacrifice anyone else to stop Lucy. This ends up saving Nana's life later.
* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', legendary [[AnIcePerson ice mage]] Ur sacrifices her life (sort of) to seal the demon Deliora in unbreakable, unmeltable ice for eternity. Since Deliora was a rampaging beast of destruction, that seems awfully noble of her--until you recall that the ''reason'' she did this was to snap one of her two pupils out of his RevengeBeforeReason obsession. It worked--only for the ''other'' pupil to head down a similarly destructive path after her sacrifice.
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sacrifice. Many, ''many'' chapters later, it actually helps out. Ultear, her true daughter, finds out that her mother has become one with the ice and can reconcile with her due to being separated for genetic experiments and the scientists lying to Ur's face that her daughter was dead.



* In ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'', Tien flips his top when he finds out that [[spoiler:Krillin destroyed the device that would have destroyed Android 18 and prevented Cell from reaching his Perfect form]], since doing so rendered his previous Kikohoing himself half to death trying to slow Cell down pointless.



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** Not surprisingly, in ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 Final Fantasy X-2]]'', Yuna rails against the entire idea of sacrificing one's life after her experiences with the Final Summoning debacle in the first game, opposing a plan in which Nooj would shoot Baralai, who was under possession by Shujin, and then kill himself once Shujin re-entered his body because she has lost too many of her friends to sacrifice and doesn't want battles where "we have to lose in order to win."

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** Not surprisingly, in ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 Final Fantasy X-2]]'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2'', Yuna rails against the entire idea of sacrificing one's life after her experiences with the Final Summoning debacle in the first game, opposing a plan in which Nooj would shoot Baralai, who was under possession by Shujin, and then kill himself once Shujin re-entered his body because she has lost too many of her friends to sacrifice and doesn't want battles where "we have to lose in order to win."



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* Parodied in the web animation ''WebAnimation/{{Ducktalez}} 3'' when Huey martyrs himself in an attempt to stop Vegeta, likely homaging Chiaotzu's death against Nappa in DBZ:
-->'''Louie:''' I'll miss Huey.\\
'''Dewey:''' If only he hadn't blown himself up when I had a perfectly good rocket launcher right here!
* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'', the Emperor has a lot to say about the repeated senseless sacrifices done by his Imperium. In particular the Ultramarines driving a very rare and expensive ''Emperor''-class battleship into a Tyranid Hive Fleet and activating its Warp engines, which would have basically given it and its crew over to some daemon of the Warp. However he does appreciate a sacrifice that accomplishes something like when the Astral Knights gave their lives to destroy the Necron's World Engine, ordinary mortal Ollanius Pius being willing to stand up to Horus despite being a puny mortal against a virtual demigod, or Sanguinius, who is the only Primarch he doesn't openly trash talk.
* {{Discussed}} in ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'', through [[spoiler:Epsilon's]] death. In his iconic monologue he mourns not being able to see the fruits of his sacrifice, [[DeconstructedTrope but also points out that it is true for almost all the heroes.]] There is always a chance that the hero will pull off the Senseless Sacrifice, and they always die not knowing whether or not this is the case.
-->[[spoiler:'''Epsilon:''']] There's so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day. And because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end... they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' prequel book ''Start Of Darkness'', the original bearer of the Crimson Mantle tried to sacrifice himself to stop the crusading Paladins from destroying the goblin village. They easily killed him, then went on to slaughter the rest of the village.
** This trope is important to the end of the story as well. Redcloak's brother Righteye is determined to destroy Xykon at all costs, but Redcloak believes he will be necessary to helping the goblin race. Righteye flies off to attack Xykon (who is distracted while fighting a powerful Archmage) with a magic knife that will allow him to Sneak Attack the lich for Massive Damage. Redcloak chooses to kill his own brother to protect Xykon...who then reveals that he knew about the knife all along and was immune to its effects. Redcloak murdered his sibling for nothing, and now Xykon knows that he will never betray him or it would make his loss ''even more'' pointless.
** When Belkar, of all people, gives the RousingSpeech, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html it consists of reminding Roy]] that he has a choice of soldiering on or making Durkon's death this.

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
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In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' the prequel book ''Start Of Darkness'', ''Recap/StartOfDarkness'', the original bearer of the Crimson Mantle tried to sacrifice himself to stop the crusading Paladins from destroying the goblin village. They easily killed him, then went on to slaughter the rest of the village.
** This trope is important to the end of the story as well. Redcloak's brother Righteye is determined to destroy Xykon at all costs, but Redcloak believes he will be necessary to helping the goblin race. Righteye flies off to attack Xykon (who is distracted while fighting a powerful Archmage) with a magic knife that will allow him to Sneak Attack the lich for Massive Damage. Redcloak chooses to kill his own brother to protect Xykon... who then reveals that he knew about the knife all along and was immune to its effects. Redcloak murdered his sibling for nothing, and now Xykon knows that he will never betray him or it would make his loss ''even more'' pointless.
** When Belkar, of all people, gives the RousingSpeech, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html it consists of reminding Roy]] that he has a choice of soldiering on or making Durkon's death this.
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-->'''Roy:''' Recent lesson, connected to that "dying" thing. Noble sacrifices only make sense when they solve the problem at hand.

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-->'''Roy:''' --->'''Roy:''' Recent lesson, connected to that "dying" thing. Noble sacrifices only make sense when they solve the problem at hand.hand.
** When Belkar, of all people, gives the RousingSpeech, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html it consists of reminding Roy]] that he has a choice of soldiering on or making Durkon's death this.



* Parodied in the web animation ''WebAnimation/{{Ducktalez}} 3'' when Huey martyrs himself in an attempt to stop Vegeta, likely homaging Chiaotzu's death against Nappa in DBZ:
-->'''Louie:''' I'll miss Huey.
-->'''Dewey:''' If only he hadn't blown himself up when I had a perfectly good rocket launcher right here!



''(Josh walks off the edge and misses completely.)''\\

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''(Josh ''[Josh walks off the edge and misses completely.)''\\completely]''\\



''(Laughter)''\\

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''(Laughter)''\\''[laughter]''\\



* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'' the Emperor has a lot to say about the repeated senseless sacrifices done by his Imperium. In particular the Ultramarines driving a very rare and expensive ''Emperor''-class battleship into a Tyranid Hive Fleet and activating its Warp engines, which would have basically given it and its crew over to some daemon of the Warp. However he does appreciate a sacrifice that accomplishes something like when the Astral Knights gave their lives to destroy the Necron's World Engine, ordinary mortal Ollanius Pius being willing to stand up to Horus despite being a puny mortal against a virtual demigod, or Sanguinius, who is the only Primarch he doesn't openly trash talk.
* In ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'', Tien flips his top when he finds out that [[spoiler:Krillin destroyed the device that would have destroyed Android 18 and prevented Cell from reaching his Perfect form]], since doing so rendered his previous Kikohoing himself half to death trying to slow Cell down pointless.



* {{Discussed}} in RedVsBlue, through [[spoiler:Epsilon's]] death. In his iconic monologue he mourns not being able to see the fruits of his sacrifice, [[DeconstructedTrope but also points out that it is true for almost all the heroes.]] There is always a chance that the hero will pull off the Senseless Sacrifice, and they always die not knowing whether or not this is the case.
-->[[spoiler:'''Epsilon''']]: There’s so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day. And because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero… never gets to see that ending. They’ll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They’ll never know if the day was really saved. In the end… they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?



* The former page quote comes from ''WesternAnimation/ShadowRaiders'', a rather grim kids show. By episode 20 the Beast had already [[PlanetEater eaten three inhabited planets]] ''on screen,'' two of them belonging to the protagonists! While the inhabitants of planet Fire managed to evacuate, the [[EvilChancellor not evil at all vizier]] crashed the planet into the Beast to no effect. Planet Jungle chose to sacrifice itself since it could not escape, and again did no visible damage.

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* The former page quote comes from ''WesternAnimation/ShadowRaiders'', ''WesternAnimation/ShadowRaiders'' is a rather grim kids show. show.
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By episode 20 the Beast had already [[PlanetEater eaten three inhabited planets]] ''on screen,'' two of them belonging to the protagonists! While the inhabitants of planet Fire managed to evacuate, the [[EvilChancellor not evil at all vizier]] crashed the planet into the Beast to no effect. Planet Jungle chose to sacrifice itself since it could not escape, and again did no visible damage.



* The death of Jet and the at the time assumed deaths of Smellerbee and Longshot are this in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', they never found Appa in the HQ which was what Jet's sacrifice was meant to do, buy them time. Not to mention the Dai Li aren't taken down either.
** Though Jet's death is less of a sacrifice and more just getting killed.

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* The death of Jet and the at the time assumed deaths of Smellerbee and Longshot are this in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', they ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. They never found Appa in the HQ which was what Jet's sacrifice was meant to do, buy them time. Not to mention the Dai Li aren't taken down either.
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either. Though Jet's death is less of a sacrifice and more just getting killed.
20th Apr '18 9:22:49 PM poi99
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* Every time the monster Sin rears its ugly head in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', a Summoner is sent on a quest for the Aeons in hopes of performing the Final Summoning that is said to be the only way to defeat Sin, a quest that invariably costs the Summoner his or her life. But as it's revealed, the Final Summoning does nothing to stop Sin for good, as the Final Aeon that destroys Sin becomes the new Sin. Not surprisingly, Yuna in ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 Final Fantasy X-2]]'' rails against the entire idea of sacrificing one's life afterwards because of this, opposing a plan in which Nooj would shoot Baralai, who was under possession by Shujin, and then kill himself once Shujin re-entered his body because she has lost too many of her friends to sacrifice and doesn't want battles where "we have to lose in order to win."

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* Every time the monster Sin rears its ugly head in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', a Summoner is sent on a quest for the Aeons in hopes of performing the Final Summoning that is said to be the only way to defeat Sin, a quest that invariably costs the Summoner his or her life. But as it's revealed, the Final Summoning does nothing to stop Sin for good, as the Final Aeon that destroys Sin becomes the new Sin. Unlike most other examples of the trope, [[IntendedAudienceReaction this one was SUPPOSED]] [[DeconstructedTrope to be senseless;]] the idea that the Final Summoning is the only way to combat Sin is [[IdiotBall a falsehood propagated by the local church.]]
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Not surprisingly, Yuna in ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2 Final Fantasy X-2]]'' X-2]]'', Yuna rails against the entire idea of sacrificing one's life afterwards because of this, after her experiences with the Final Summoning debacle in the first game, opposing a plan in which Nooj would shoot Baralai, who was under possession by Shujin, and then kill himself once Shujin re-entered his body because she has lost too many of her friends to sacrifice and doesn't want battles where "we have to lose in order to win."
15th Apr '18 2:42:11 AM starklinson
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* In Literature/The Aeneid, BattleCouple Nisus and Euryalus start a night raid against the Latins. As they are retreating, Euryalus is caught. Nisus comes running back to save his lover, pleading with the Latins to spare the youth and kill him instead, that he was to blame for the raid. This attempted sacrifice fails and the Latins kill them both and put their heads on sticks.
31st Mar '18 1:42:04 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/FatalFrame'''s canon ending gives one to Mafuyu Hinasaki, who chooses to remain at the Hell Gate with Kirie, who will spend eternity keeping said gate closed and suffering pain for it, so that she at least won't suffer alone. As noble as the idea may appear, and make a wonderful TearJerker moment, the action changes nothing. It doesn't alter Kirie's fate or actions, nor does it do anyone ''any'' good. All it does is cause Miku to lose her beloved brother and spend the third game [[DeathSeeker wanting to die]] because she feels guilty for not insisting on him to leave the Himuro mansion with her.

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* ''Franchise/FatalFrame'''s ''VideoGame/FatalFrame1'''s canon ending gives one to Mafuyu Hinasaki, who chooses to remain at the Hell Gate with Kirie, who will spend eternity keeping said gate closed and suffering pain for it, so that she at least won't suffer alone. As noble as the idea may appear, and make a wonderful TearJerker moment, the action changes nothing. It doesn't alter Kirie's fate or actions, nor does it do anyone ''any'' good. All it does is cause Miku to lose her beloved brother and spend the third game [[DeathSeeker wanting to die]] because she feels guilty for not insisting on him to leave the Himuro mansion with her.
12th Feb '18 12:04:10 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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'''If the character in question sacrificed himself to accomplish a goal, when he could have accomplished the same goal without dying, that's StupidSacrifice, ''not'' this trope.''' The two tropes can overlap if a SenselessSacrifice is not the most logical option, but it is fairly rare.

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'''If the character in question sacrificed himself to accomplish a goal, when he could have accomplished the same goal without dying, that's StupidSacrifice, ''not'' this trope.''' The two tropes can overlap if a SenselessSacrifice Senseless Sacrifice is not the most logical option, but it is fairly rare.



* ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'' has a huge TearJerker in the form of the death of Nuriko. Rather than simply wait for Mitsukake, who could have cleared up his injuries with a touch, he decides to use the last of his strength to move a huge boulder, and dies of the strain. The reason it's a SenselessSacrifice? ''The boulder isn't actually blocking the cave entrance it's in front of''. There's enough room to just ''walk around it''. There are even skeletons already ''inside'' the cave when the rest of the Seishi finally get in!

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* ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'' has a huge TearJerker in the form of the death of Nuriko. Rather than simply wait for Mitsukake, who could have cleared up his injuries with a touch, he decides to use the last of his strength to move a huge boulder, and dies of the strain. The reason it's a SenselessSacrifice? Senseless Sacrifice? ''The boulder isn't actually blocking the cave entrance it's in front of''. There's enough room to just ''walk around it''. There are even skeletons already ''inside'' the cave when the rest of the Seishi finally get in!



** In the series, there's Rei II's death, although "[[WeHaveReserves if she died, she could be replaced!]]" thanks to cloning. Aside from that, SenselessSacrifice basically sums up the entire plot of ''End Of Evangelion'': so many sacrifice so much to prevent Instrumentality, and it happens anyway. On the other hand, Gendo has made countless sacrifices to achieve Instrumentality, only for his son to reject it, and there's still the possibility the rest of humanity will as well, so maybe it's a SenselessSacrifice all around.

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** In the series, there's Rei II's death, although "[[WeHaveReserves if she died, she could be replaced!]]" thanks to cloning. Aside from that, SenselessSacrifice Senseless Sacrifice basically sums up the entire plot of ''End Of Evangelion'': so many sacrifice so much to prevent Instrumentality, and it happens anyway. On the other hand, Gendo has made countless sacrifices to achieve Instrumentality, only for his son to reject it, and there's still the possibility the rest of humanity will as well, so maybe it's a SenselessSacrifice Senseless Sacrifice all around.



** As is the entire theatre of battle, let alone [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the entire war]] this film is about. You could say the SenselessSacrifice in the film is a microcosm of the whole.

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** As is the entire theatre of battle, let alone [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the entire war]] this film is about. You could say the SenselessSacrifice Senseless Sacrifice in the film is a microcosm of the whole.



** For the first four series, we are led to believe that the conclusion of the Time War was a SenselessSacrifice for the Time Lords; the Doctor sacrificed his own people to wipe out the Daleks, but a handful of Daleks survived. However, in ''The End of Time'', it turns out that the Doctor's main target was the Time Lords themselves, who had been so corrupted by endless warfare that they were about to destroy the entire universe in pursuit of victory. (CosmicRetcon aside.)

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** For the first four series, we are led to believe that the conclusion of the Time War was a SenselessSacrifice Senseless Sacrifice for the Time Lords; the Doctor sacrificed his own people to wipe out the Daleks, but a handful of Daleks survived. However, in ''The End of Time'', it turns out that the Doctor's main target was the Time Lords themselves, who had been so corrupted by endless warfare that they were about to destroy the entire universe in pursuit of victory. (CosmicRetcon aside.)



* In the ''Birthright'' route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', [[spoiler:Elise's HeroicSacrifice also is partly a SenselessSacrifice. She takes a sword swing from her older brother, Xander, that was meant for the Avatar. While it saves the Avatar's life, the "senseless" part is that before dying, she asked Xander to "Try to be at peace" and stop fighting the Avatar. Unfortunately, Xander was so broken by his little sister's demise that the next time he and the Avatar fight, he deliberately holds back on his attacks, implying that [[DeathSeeker he]] ''[[DeathSeeker wants]]'' [[SuicideByCop the Avatar to kill him for what happened]]. Well, [[ExactWords that's one way to find peace...]]]]

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* In the ''Birthright'' route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', [[spoiler:Elise's HeroicSacrifice also is partly a SenselessSacrifice.Senseless Sacrifice. She takes a sword swing from her older brother, Xander, that was meant for the Avatar. While it saves the Avatar's life, the "senseless" part is that before dying, she asked Xander to "Try to be at peace" and stop fighting the Avatar. Unfortunately, Xander was so broken by his little sister's demise that the next time he and the Avatar fight, he deliberately holds back on his attacks, implying that [[DeathSeeker he]] ''[[DeathSeeker wants]]'' [[SuicideByCop the Avatar to kill him for what happened]]. Well, [[ExactWords that's one way to find peace...]]]]



* Subverted in ''Webcomic/MSPaintMasterpieces'', where the minor character Compass Man fights a powerful robot assassin with a HealingFactor. After a short fight proving his inferiority in combat, he attempts a [[TakingYouWithMe self-destructive blast]], which [[SenselessSacrifice probably wouldn't have worked anyways]]. Luckily, Mega Man interrupts him before he can pull it off, so he gets bonus points for trying, ''and'' he gets to live.

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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/MSPaintMasterpieces'', where the minor character Compass Man fights a powerful robot assassin with a HealingFactor. After a short fight proving his inferiority in combat, he attempts a [[TakingYouWithMe self-destructive blast]], which [[SenselessSacrifice probably wouldn't have worked anyways]].anyways. Luckily, Mega Man interrupts him before he can pull it off, so he gets bonus points for trying, ''and'' he gets to live.



** And once they're lured back, we get another SenselessSacrifice because Chief dies from his wounds from the torture. Moral victory?

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** And once they're lured back, we get another SenselessSacrifice Senseless Sacrifice because Chief dies from his wounds from the torture. Moral victory?



* {{Discussed}} in RedVsBlue, through [[spoiler:Epsilon's]] death. In his iconic monologue he mourns not being able to see the fruits of his sacrifice, [[DeconstructedTrope but also points out that it is true for almost all the heroes.]] There is always a chance that the hero will pull off the SenselessSacrifice, and they always die not knowing whether or not this is the case.
-->[[spoiler:'''Epsilon''': There’s so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day. And because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero… never gets to see that ending. They’ll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They’ll never know if the day was really saved. In the end… they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?]]

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* {{Discussed}} in RedVsBlue, through [[spoiler:Epsilon's]] death. In his iconic monologue he mourns not being able to see the fruits of his sacrifice, [[DeconstructedTrope but also points out that it is true for almost all the heroes.]] There is always a chance that the hero will pull off the SenselessSacrifice, Senseless Sacrifice, and they always die not knowing whether or not this is the case.
-->[[spoiler:'''Epsilon''': -->[[spoiler:'''Epsilon''']]: There’s so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day. And because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero… never gets to see that ending. They’ll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They’ll never know if the day was really saved. In the end… they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?]]bitch?
11th Feb '18 11:43:54 PM Sabrewing
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* In the second half of ''VideoGame/TheFall'', ARID, a combat suit AI, is heading down into the depths of Domesticon to access the Mainframe directly so that she can alter the parameters of a test she's taking part in, in the name of saving the unconscious pilot wearing her. To provide the Mainframe with more power to purge water flooding the lower levels, she needs to turn off whole colonies of domestic helper androids that could still provide services to humans if they got off-world somehow, but she considers their "lives" expendable if she can save a ''human'' life. [[spoiler:And then it turns out that her pilot isn't even inside of her; she deactivated all those androids for nothing.]]
29th Jan '18 1:19:50 PM Tharkun140
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* {{Discussed}} in RedVsBlue, through [[spoiler:Epsilon's]] death. In his iconic monologue he mourns not being able to see the fruits of his sacrifice, [[DeconstructedTrope but also points out that it is true for almost all the heroes.]] There is always a chance that the hero will pull off the SenselessSacrifice, and they will die not knowing whether or not this is the case.

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* {{Discussed}} in RedVsBlue, through [[spoiler:Epsilon's]] death. In his iconic monologue he mourns not being able to see the fruits of his sacrifice, [[DeconstructedTrope but also points out that it is true for almost all the heroes.]] There is always a chance that the hero will pull off the SenselessSacrifice, and they will always die not knowing whether or not this is the case.
29th Jan '18 11:35:52 AM Tharkun140
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-->[[spoiler:'''Epsilon''': There’s so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day. And because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero… never gets to see that ending. They’ll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They’ll never know if the day was really saved. In the end… they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?]]
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