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19th Sep '16 11:47:28 PM Eagal
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* The self-fulfilling prophecy is a fairly major sociological concept. The idea is that when other people expect something of a person, that person will act that way as a result of their actions. Sociologists once performed an experiment where they continually told children that blue-eyed children were worse than other children. When they tested the children afterwards, the blue-eyed children performed worse than before.
** The blue-eyes experiment was actually a study in bigotry and privilege; self-fulfilling prophecies in performance were a side-effect. Here's an experiment which examined self-fulfilling prophecy directly: a class of children were given an aptitude test, and afterwards their teacher was told that child X's results showed him/her to be particularly gifted. Child X had, in fact, been drawn at random. When the experimenters followed up on the class a few months later, they found that X was performing much better than before -- because the teacher was giving them more attention.

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* The self-fulfilling prophecy is a fairly major sociological concept. The idea is that when other people expect something of a person, that person will act that way as a result of their actions. Sociologists once performed an experiment where they continually told children that blue-eyed children were worse than other children. When they tested the children afterwards, the blue-eyed children performed worse than before.
** The blue-eyes experiment was actually a study in bigotry and privilege; self-fulfilling prophecies in performance were a side-effect. Here's an experiment which examined self-fulfilling prophecy directly:
In one test, a class of children were given an aptitude test, and afterwards their teacher was told that child X's results showed him/her to be particularly gifted. Child X had, in fact, been drawn at random. When the experimenters followed up on the class a few months later, they found that X was performing much better than before -- because the teacher was giving them more attention.
8th Sep '16 7:11:12 PM PaulA
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* The November 1948 issue of ''AstoundingScienceFiction'' printed a reader's letter reviewing the contents of the November ''1949'' issue. Editor Creator/JohnWCampbell then commissioned stories from the authors mentioned in the letter, making the actual November 1949 issue as close to the imaginary review as possible.

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* The November 1948 issue of ''AstoundingScienceFiction'' ''Magazine/AstoundingScienceFiction'' printed a reader's letter reviewing the contents of the November ''1949'' issue. Editor Creator/JohnWCampbell then commissioned stories from the authors mentioned in the letter, making the actual November 1949 issue as close to the imaginary review as possible.
29th Aug '16 2:04:32 PM Lullaby22
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''Mirabelle of ''Series/TheKicks'' believes that she's not smart enough to pass her classes, so she doesn't even make an effort. This, naturally, results in the very failure she believed would happen. She finally breaks out of this routine in "Breakaway."
10th Aug '16 7:23:36 PM merotoker
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* In ''Manga/DeathNote'', Ryuk the {{Shinigami}} tells [[LightIsNotGood Light]] [[BrokenAce Yagami]] that misery follows those who use the Death Note. Throughout the series, it becomes apparent that this phenomenon isn't so much the fault of any [[LaserGuidedKarma karmic punishment]] - it's just that people who use the Death Note are always the kind of people who surround themselves with [[CaptainObvious death]] and [[PersonOfMassDestruction destruction]].

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* In ''Manga/DeathNote'', Ryuk the {{Shinigami}} tells [[LightIsNotGood Light]] {{Light|IsNotGood}} [[BrokenAce Yagami]] that misery follows those who use the Death Note. Throughout the series, it becomes apparent that this phenomenon isn't so much the fault of any [[LaserGuidedKarma karmic punishment]] - it's just that people who use the Death Note are always the kind of people who surround themselves with [[CaptainObvious death]] and [[PersonOfMassDestruction destruction]].



* According to a RetCon in ''Comicbook/XMen'', Bolivar Trask was inspired to create the Sentinels because his son was having visions of a BadFuture, and he assumed this meant a mutant-controlled one. The visions were actually of the "Days of Future Past", a Sentinel-controlled future. Trask's son also saw visions of various mutant supervillains' crimes. What he didn't see was mutant superheroes were the ones who stopped them.

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* According to a RetCon in ''Comicbook/XMen'', Bolivar Trask was inspired to create the Sentinels because his son was having visions of a BadFuture, and he assumed this meant a mutant-controlled one. The visions were actually of the "Days of Future Past", "ComicBook/DaysOfFuturePast", a Sentinel-controlled future. Trask's son also saw visions of various mutant supervillains' crimes. What he didn't see was mutant superheroes were the ones who stopped them.



* In ''WesternAnimation/ThePrinceOfEgypt'', Rameses remains firm on not freeing the Hebrews out of fear of avoiding weakening Egypt. That attitude causes that God sends the plagues and as a result, Egypt gets severely weakened.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/ThePrinceOfEgypt'', Rameses remains firm on not freeing the Hebrews out of fear of avoiding weakening Egypt. That attitude causes that God sends to send the plagues and as a result, Egypt gets severely weakened.



** Part of the fortune was that [[spoiler:'the valonqar' - the younger sibling - ]] would [[spoiler:murder her]]. She decided that this meant [[spoiler:Tyrion]] and began treating him like dirt, giving him several very good reasons to want to [[spoiler:kill her]]. But, her increasing paranoia (and stress-drinking-and-sleeping around) over what the prophecy could mean has caused massive rifts between her [[spoiler and the "safe" Jaime, who is younger than her by a matter of seconds,]] and as of ''A Feast for Crows'', he may be able to fulfill the prophecy by [[spoiler:refusing to save her from the Swords and Stars]].

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** Part of the fortune was that [[spoiler:'the valonqar' - the younger sibling - ]] would [[spoiler:murder her]]. She decided that this meant [[spoiler:Tyrion]] and began treating him like dirt, giving him several very good reasons to want to [[spoiler:kill her]]. But, her increasing paranoia (and stress-drinking-and-sleeping around) over what the prophecy could mean has caused massive rifts between her [[spoiler [[spoiler: and the "safe" Jaime, who is younger than her by a matter of seconds,]] and as of ''A Feast for Crows'', he may be able to fulfill the prophecy by [[spoiler:refusing to save her from the Swords and Stars]].



* In ''{{Series/Hercules}}, Eurystheus is told that if his daughter Iole ever gets married, her husband will kill him. When Hercules asks that his son Hyllus and Iole may marry to heal the rift between both houses, Eurystheus attempts to have them both killed, fearful for his life. [[spoiler: During the climatic struggle, Hyllus ends up killing Eurystheus by throwing a knife to his chest, who might have lived if he not tried to kill him.]]

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* In ''{{Series/Hercules}}, ''{{Series/Hercules}}'', Eurystheus is told that if his daughter Iole ever gets married, her husband will kill him. When Hercules asks that his son Hyllus and Iole may marry to heal the rift between both houses, Eurystheus attempts to have them both killed, fearful for his life. [[spoiler: During the climatic struggle, Hyllus ends up killing Eurystheus by throwing a knife to his chest, who might have lived if he not tried to kill him.]]



** The [[spoiler: Reaper Cycle]] is the same situation writ large. The {{Precursors}} believed that [[spoiler: an organics vs. RobotWar was inevitable any time an organic species invented sentient A.I.]] [[spoiler: To solve this, they created[[note]]or rather, they created the Star Child who created[[/note]] the Reapers, giant sentient cyborgs who go around wiping out organic races every few million years, thus ensuring that an organics vs. RobotWar IS inevitable.]] Ironically, the GoldenEnding to the geth / quarian conflict suggests that organic / robotic peace IS possible.

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** The [[spoiler: Reaper Cycle]] is the same situation writ large. The {{Precursors}} believed that [[spoiler: an organics vs. RobotWar was inevitable any time an organic species invented sentient A.I.]] [[spoiler: To solve this, they created[[note]]or rather, they created the Star Child who created[[/note]] the Reapers, giant sentient cyborgs who go around wiping out organic races every few million years, thus ensuring that an organics vs. RobotWar IS inevitable.]] inevitable]]. Ironically, the GoldenEnding to the geth / quarian conflict suggests that organic / robotic peace IS possible.



** This also happens in ''God of War: Ghost of Sparta''. A prophet said that whoever controlled the "marked warrior" controlled the fate of Olympus. Kratos's brother, Deimos, already had a mark on him. But when Deimos was taken away, Kratos tattooed an identical mark on himself out of respect for his lost brother.

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** This also happens in ''God of War: Ghost of Sparta''.''VideoGame/GodOfWarGhostOfSparta''. A prophet said that whoever controlled the "marked warrior" controlled the fate of Olympus. Kratos's brother, Deimos, already had a mark on him. But when Deimos was taken away, Kratos tattooed an identical mark on himself out of respect for his lost brother.



* The main plot of ''{{VideoGame/Weaponlord}}'' bases itself around a prophecy that a warrior born under the Warrior's Moon shall slay the DemonLord Zarak. Forced to face destiny, Zarak opens the tournament in order to find and kill the Weaponlord. [[spoiler:This effort becomes pointless in his own Story ending when it is then revealed that Zarak was the Weaponlord all along. The Demon Lord he was meant to slay, then, falls to his predecessor, Raith, who comes back from the dead in an attempt at vengeance (and a possible SequelHook).]]

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* The main plot of ''{{VideoGame/Weaponlord}}'' bases itself around a prophecy that a warrior born under the Warrior's Moon shall slay the DemonLord {{Demon Lord|sAndArchdevils}} Zarak. Forced to face destiny, Zarak opens the tournament in order to find and kill the Weaponlord. [[spoiler:This effort becomes pointless in his own Story ending when it is then revealed that Zarak was the Weaponlord all along. The Demon Lord he was meant to slay, then, falls to his predecessor, Raith, who comes back from the dead in an attempt at vengeance (and a possible SequelHook).]]



* In the ''[[Videogame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'' series, the [[PlanetTerra Earth State]] is rabidly anti-[[AIs AGI]] (even having an [[EliteArmy entire fleet]] dedicated to hunting down AGI producers) after their artificially intelligent terraforming fleet [[AIIsACrapshoot went haywire]] and started "[[ColonyDrop terraforming]]" inhabited space stations and planets, nearly destroying human civilization. When Earth is reunited with its LostColony, the Argon Federation several centuries later, the Argon Federation doesn't show the same aversion to AGI testing that the Earth State shows. Therefore, Earth's United Space Command and AGI Task Force begins to implant spies into the Argon government to steer them away from reverse-engineering Xenon AGI. The Argon Federation finds out and is unsurprisingly very angry, then surprisingly, [[KickTheDog blows up the Earth's]] [[RingworldPlanet Torus Aeternal]] [[ColonyDrop killing millions with de-orbiting debris]], then [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar declares war]] while intensify their AGI research to make up for the [[HumanityIsAdvanced Terran technology being far in advance]] of anything possessed by the Argon. The Terrans begin to lose the war against the AGI {{Zerg Rush}}es and are pushed back to Earth, which is only saved by the [[{{Precursors}} Ancients]] shutting down the PortalNetwork to stop the genocide and to stop the [[HordeOfAlienLocusts spread of the now-uncontained Xenon fleets]].

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* In the ''[[Videogame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'' series, the [[PlanetTerra Earth State]] is rabidly anti-[[AIs anti-[[ArtificialIntelligence AGI]] (even having an [[EliteArmy entire fleet]] dedicated to hunting down AGI producers) after their artificially intelligent terraforming fleet [[AIIsACrapshoot went haywire]] and started "[[ColonyDrop terraforming]]" inhabited space stations and planets, nearly destroying human civilization. When Earth is reunited with its LostColony, the Argon Federation several centuries later, the Argon Federation doesn't show the same aversion to AGI testing that the Earth State shows. Therefore, Earth's United Space Command and AGI Task Force begins to implant spies into the Argon government to steer them away from reverse-engineering Xenon AGI. The Argon Federation finds out and is unsurprisingly very angry, then surprisingly, [[KickTheDog blows up the Earth's]] [[RingworldPlanet Torus Aeternal]] [[ColonyDrop killing millions with de-orbiting debris]], then [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar declares war]] while intensify their AGI research to make up for the [[HumanityIsAdvanced Terran technology being far in advance]] of anything possessed by the Argon. The Terrans begin to lose the war against the AGI {{Zerg Rush}}es and are pushed back to Earth, which is only saved by the [[{{Precursors}} Ancients]] shutting down the PortalNetwork to stop the genocide and to stop the [[HordeOfAlienLocusts spread of the now-uncontained Xenon fleets]].



* ''Webcomic/YetAnotherFantasyGamerComic'': In [[http://yafgc.net/comic/1341-fortune-kobold/ "Fortune Kobold"]], Dame Gilda the {{Seer}} predicts another kobold's death. [[http://yafgc.net/comic/1342-now-you-seer/ In the next strip]], he gets beheaded because he was pursuing Gilda in anger.

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* ''Webcomic/YetAnotherFantasyGamerComic'': In [[http://yafgc.net/comic/1341-fortune-kobold/ "Fortune Kobold"]], Dame Gilda the {{Seer}} {{Seer|s}} predicts another kobold's death. [[http://yafgc.net/comic/1342-now-you-seer/ In the next strip]], he gets beheaded because he was pursuing Gilda in anger.



* ''ToddInTheShadows'' concluded that Willow Smith's "Whip My Hair" was created as a TakeThat to a {{Hatedom}} that didn't exist until the song was released.

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* ''ToddInTheShadows'' ''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows'' concluded that Willow Smith's "Whip My Hair" was created as a TakeThat to a {{Hatedom}} that didn't exist until the song was released.



** The "Pandemic" two-parter is full of this. The prophecy - that Craig would be the one to avert the Pandemic - is brought about by a combination of the BigBad sending Craig to Peru, and Craig himself simply walking away when he learns of the prophecy, fully intending to ignore it... leading to him standing on the exact spot necessary to activate his EyeBeam (MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext) and avert the global crisis.

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** The "Pandemic" two-parter is full of this. The prophecy - that Craig would be the one to avert the Pandemic - is brought about by a combination of the BigBad sending Craig to Peru, and Craig himself simply walking away when he learns of the prophecy, fully intending to ignore it... leading to him standing on the exact spot necessary to activate his EyeBeam EyeBeams (MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext) and avert the global crisis.



* The turn of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was based on one as well. While secretly helping the Allies through Lend-Lease, the United States was not interested in involving itself in the fighting. But Japan was a bit paranoid, and figured that attacking the base of the U.S. naval fleet in Hawaii would help them solidify their power in the Pacific. Five words describe the long-term aftermath of Pearl Harbor succintly: NiceJobFixingItVillain.

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* The turn of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was based on one as well. While secretly helping the Allies through Lend-Lease, the United States was not interested in involving itself in the fighting. But Japan was a bit paranoid, and figured that attacking the base of the U.S. naval fleet in Hawaii would help them solidify their power in the Pacific. Five words describe the long-term aftermath of Pearl Harbor succintly: succinctly: NiceJobFixingItVillain.
7th Aug '16 10:15:53 PM Euodiachloris
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** Part of the fortune was that [[spoiler:'the valonqar' - the younger sibling - ]] would [[spoiler:murder her]]. She decided that this meant [[spoiler:Tyrion]] and began treating him like dirt, giving him several good reasons to want to [[spoiler:kill her]]... but her increasing paranoia over the whole affair caused massive rifts between her and [[spoiler:Jaime, who is younger than her by a matter of seconds,]] and as of ''A Feast for Crows'', he may be able to fulfill the prophecy by [[spoiler:refusing to save her from the Swords and Stars]].
** She also seems to be on her way to fulfilling her own personal interpretation of the part regarding her children - "gold shall be their crowns, and gold shall be their shrouds". It does not necessarily mean that her children will die before her, [[spoiler:but the way she raised Joffrey as a monster set him up to be killed by the Tyrells to protect Margaery, and to allow her to marry the more pliable Tommen.]]

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** Part of the fortune was that [[spoiler:'the valonqar' - the younger sibling - ]] would [[spoiler:murder her]]. She decided that this meant [[spoiler:Tyrion]] and began treating him like dirt, giving him several very good reasons to want to [[spoiler:kill her]]... but her]]. But, her increasing paranoia (and stress-drinking-and-sleeping around) over what the whole affair prophecy could mean has caused massive rifts between her [[spoiler and [[spoiler:Jaime, the "safe" Jaime, who is younger than her by a matter of seconds,]] and as of ''A Feast for Crows'', he may be able to fulfill the prophecy by [[spoiler:refusing to save her from the Swords and Stars]].
** She also seems to be on her way to fulfilling her own personal interpretation of the part regarding her children - "gold shall be their crowns, and gold shall be their shrouds". It does not ''not'' necessarily mean say that her children will die before her, [[spoiler:but but she fears that it does. [[spoiler:However, the way she raised Joffrey as a monster set him up to be killed by the Tyrells to protect Margaery, and Margaery... which to allow her to marry the more pliable Tommen.Tommen... who becomes a boy-king at a ''very'' unstable time. Meanwhile, Myrcella is in Dorne as part of an arranged betrothal, surrounded by people with little cause to love Lannisters, despite her being an olive branch between kingdoms... all because Cersei refused to undergo something similar.]]
6th Aug '16 10:43:22 AM SlimSkeeter
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** The flip side of this is that women lose any possible advantage they would have in a real life situation. They cannot bat their eyes, show off cleavage, wink etc to incite favor or distraction with the male audience in gaming forums. Ergo, ThereAreNoGirlsOnTheInternet in that everyone is on a level playing field.
31st Jul '16 8:29:04 AM MarsJenkar
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** Similarly, during the Great Depression, many people worried that they would lose their money due to the stock market crash and failing banks. As a result, people rushed to get their money out, thereby causing the banks to fail. This would be part of the reason FDIC would later be created, because if you were unlucky and didn't get your money out of the bank in time, you lost it. Banks that are FDIC insured protect bank consumers up to $250,000 in the event of a bank failing.

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** Similarly, during the Great Depression, many people worried that they would lose their money due to the stock market crash and failing banks. As a result, people rushed to get their money out, thereby causing the banks to fail. This would be part of the reason FDIC would later be created, because if you were unlucky and didn't get your money out of the bank in time, you lost it. Banks that are FDIC insured protect bank consumers up to $250,000 in the event of a bank failing. This has the effect of protecting not only the customers but the bank itself, since customers would be (at least in theory) be less likely to attempt to run on an FDIC-insured bank if they knew they were protected.
29th Jul '16 2:18:44 AM TheNerevarine
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* In ''{{Series/Hercules}}, Eurystheus is told that if his daughter Iole ever gets married, her husband will kill him. When Hercules asks that his son Hyllus and Iole may marry to heal the rift between both houses, Eurystheus attempts to have them both killed, fearful for his life. [[spoiler: During the climatic struggle, Hyllus ends up killing Eurystheus by throwing a knife to his chest, who might have lived if he not tried to kill him.]]
26th Jul '16 11:13:12 PM PaulA
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* In the Literature/EarthseaTrilogy, the God-King of Kargad knows of a prophecy that one of the descendants of the old dynasty will bring his empire down. At the time, only a boy and a girl remained of it. He was afraid to kill them (they had RoyalBlood, after all), so he sent them to an uninhabited island. They survive for about 60 years... until one day, Ged stumbles across them. The woman gives him a half of a broken bracelet. Turned out it's a piece of an ancient artifact...
12th Jul '16 5:28:54 PM Arkhia
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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' fanfic ''Fail Better'' it's implied that every attempt to break a prophecy ended in this. Lucia was the first one who tricked the system.

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* In the ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'' fanfic ''Fail Better'' it's implied that every attempt to break a prophecy ended in this. Lucia was the first one who tricked could trick the system.
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