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9th Aug '17 9:38:50 PM Azaram
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** Somewhat more epic than that sounds. As the Alliance army tries to escape by climbing rope ladders, a massive 100 foot tall demonic battlemech has grabbed the ship and is tipping it over. [[spoiler:Wrynn]] gives Graymane a letter for his son, draws his sword and jumps off the rope ladder, stabbing the mech in the head and taking it down. He rides it to the ground and is surrounded by demons, and takes out quite a few before finally being speared by several of them simultaneously. See it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerNdsh_H-g&feature=youtu.be&t=1m26s here]]
10th Jun '17 3:16:09 PM nombretomado
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*** Several pre-1916 WorldWarOne campaigns and battles, due to the extremely steep 'learning curve' in modern artillery techniques. The entire year of 1915 on the Western Front (half a million French dead, 50k Commonwealth dead) worked out this way, with neither the French nor the British being able to improve their artillery ammunition production or artillerymen's skills enough for their tactical attacks to result in anything but near-total losses. Attacking riflemen were repeatedly mulched by enemy artillery fire, with Entente artillery failing to hit the enemy's artillery and barely hitting the enemy trenches.
*** Several post-1916 WorldWarOne campaigns and battles where artillery techniques were imperfectly applied. Infamously Crown Prince Frederic's Third Army at Verdun in February-November 1916, after he abandoned Falkenhayn's 'casualty-light' strategic intention for the offensive (by making heavy use of artillery) and tried to capture Verdun 'at any cost' (using infantry attacks with light or non-existent artillery support). Frederic's insubordination made Verdun backfire so badly for the German Army (with a quarter-million dead and a million wounded) that it was virtually forced to focus on defeating Russia again in 1917 (after failing to do so in 1915). Continued imperfect application of artillery techniques meant that the first day on the Somme campaign resulted in the death of a sixth of the attacking force in the sectors covered by British artillery and the hospitalisation of another third (for a total of 20k dead and 40k wounded, losses in the French-covered sector being pretty light).
*** The Banzai charges of the Japanese army during WorldWarII, which were standard operating procedure against Chinese Warlord troops ([[ScrewThisImOutOfHere who weren't paid enough to deal with that shit]], if they actually got paid at all) and when they were about to be defeated. The preference to die charging the enemy with a melee weapon rather than surrender helped keep the number of Japanese [=POWs=] low, not least because it further disinclined those on the receiving end of said charges to actually accept surrenders.

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*** Several pre-1916 WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI campaigns and battles, due to the extremely steep 'learning curve' in modern artillery techniques. The entire year of 1915 on the Western Front (half a million French dead, 50k Commonwealth dead) worked out this way, with neither the French nor the British being able to improve their artillery ammunition production or artillerymen's skills enough for their tactical attacks to result in anything but near-total losses. Attacking riflemen were repeatedly mulched by enemy artillery fire, with Entente artillery failing to hit the enemy's artillery and barely hitting the enemy trenches.
*** Several post-1916 WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI campaigns and battles where artillery techniques were imperfectly applied. Infamously Crown Prince Frederic's Third Army at Verdun in February-November 1916, after he abandoned Falkenhayn's 'casualty-light' strategic intention for the offensive (by making heavy use of artillery) and tried to capture Verdun 'at any cost' (using infantry attacks with light or non-existent artillery support). Frederic's insubordination made Verdun backfire so badly for the German Army (with a quarter-million dead and a million wounded) that it was virtually forced to focus on defeating Russia again in 1917 (after failing to do so in 1915). Continued imperfect application of artillery techniques meant that the first day on the Somme campaign resulted in the death of a sixth of the attacking force in the sectors covered by British artillery and the hospitalisation of another third (for a total of 20k dead and 40k wounded, losses in the French-covered sector being pretty light).
*** The Banzai charges of the Japanese army during WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, which were standard operating procedure against Chinese Warlord troops ([[ScrewThisImOutOfHere who weren't paid enough to deal with that shit]], if they actually got paid at all) and when they were about to be defeated. The preference to die charging the enemy with a melee weapon rather than surrender helped keep the number of Japanese [=POWs=] low, not least because it further disinclined those on the receiving end of said charges to actually accept surrenders.
31st May '17 8:21:06 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted during the Last Battle in ''[[TheWheelOfTime A Memory of Light]]'', where [[spoiler:[[DeathSeeker Lan]] sets out to do so, only for [[TheArcher Tam's Two Rivers men]] to clear his path to Demandred and [[AntiMagic Mat's amulet]] allowing him to kill him and live]].

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* Subverted during the Last Battle in ''[[TheWheelOfTime ''[[Literature/TheWheelOfTime A Memory of Light]]'', where [[spoiler:[[DeathSeeker Lan]] sets out to do so, only for [[TheArcher Tam's Two Rivers men]] to clear his path to Demandred and [[AntiMagic Mat's amulet]] allowing him to kill him and live]].
16th May '17 3:19:51 PM BattleMaster
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*** The Banzai charges of the Japanese army during WorldWarII, which were standard operating procedure against Chinese Warlord troops (who weren't paid enough to deal with that shit, if they actually got paid at all) and when they were about to be defeated. The preference to die charging the enemy with a melee weapon rather than surrender helped keep the number of Japanese [=POWs=] low, not least because it further disinclined those on the receiving end of said charges to actually accept surrenders.
* Possibly the single most epic examble, would be the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome The Battle off Samar]]. After bringing Task Force 34 away from Samar with a decoy, leaving only the [[CannonFodder Destroyers and Escorts]] of Taffy 3 between the massive Center Force and American troops taking Samar, Center Force's Flagship, the ''Yamato'' by itself, and not counting the 3 other smaller battleships with it, outmassed the entirety of Taffy 3. Taffy 3 proceeds to cover their 6 escort carriers with a smokescreen. At this point, the USS ''Johnston'', a single destroyer, is ordered by Lt. Cdr Ernest Evans to charge ''straight at'' Center Force, [[ViolationOfCommonSense changing course towards the splashes of missed shells]], and closing to torpedo range, many times shorter than the range of Center Force's massive guns, taking down two heavy cruisers before taking hits from the Battleship ''Kongo'', crippling her and one of the shells heavily wounding her captain, who limps out of the butchered bridge to the aft steering section and orders ''Johnston'' to continue the attack, while the other ships follow ''Johnston's'' example and some of them even moving so close that the larger Japanese ships can't fire on them such as the USS ''Roberts'' who did so for an entire hour, before being finished off by the ''[[HeroKiller Kongo]]'', aircraft strafing and bombing Japanese forces with weapons never meant for and not capable of penetrating their armor, and even just making dives ''after running out of ammo'' to cover for those who still had rounds left. In the end, Center Force loses nerve and falls back.

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*** The Banzai charges of the Japanese army during WorldWarII, which were standard operating procedure against Chinese Warlord troops (who ([[ScrewThisImOutOfHere who weren't paid enough to deal with that shit, shit]], if they actually got paid at all) and when they were about to be defeated. The preference to die charging the enemy with a melee weapon rather than surrender helped keep the number of Japanese [=POWs=] low, not least because it further disinclined those on the receiving end of said charges to actually accept surrenders.
* Possibly the single most epic examble, would be the [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome The Battle off Samar]]. After bringing Task Force 34 away from Samar with a decoy, leaving only the [[CannonFodder Destroyers and Escorts]] of Taffy 3 between the massive Center Force and American troops taking Samar, Center Force's Flagship, the ''Yamato'' by itself, and not counting the 3 other smaller battleships with it, outmassed the entirety of Taffy 3. Taffy 3 proceeds to cover their 6 escort carriers with a smokescreen. At this point, the USS ''Johnston'', a single destroyer, is ordered by Lt. Cdr Ernest Evans to charge ''straight at'' Center Force, [[ViolationOfCommonSense changing course towards the splashes of missed shells]], and closing to torpedo range, many times shorter than the range of Center Force's massive guns, taking down two heavy cruisers before taking hits from the Battleship ''Kongo'', crippling her and one of the shells heavily wounding her captain, who limps out of the butchered bridge to the aft steering section and orders ''Johnston'' to continue the attack, while the other ships follow ''Johnston's'' example and some of them even moving so close that the larger Japanese ships can't fire on them such as the USS ''Roberts'' who did so for an entire hour, before being finished off by the ''[[HeroKiller Kongo]]'', aircraft strafing and bombing Japanese forces with weapons never meant for and not capable of penetrating their armor, and even just making dives ''after running out of ammo'' to cover for those who still had rounds left. In the end, Center Force loses lost its nerve and falls back.retreated.
15th Apr '17 3:34:46 AM morane
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* Ramming attacks on galleys easily became SelfDestructiveCharge s or TakingYouWithMe. Galleys tended to be of subtle and fragile construction to enable speed, and unless the ramming was executed on gentle seas and on a pre-planned course against a more or less stationary target, the forces involved could easily tear also the attacker into matchsticks. The ram (''rostrum'') was an extension of keel and keelson, and a sudden crash with torsion and twist involved could well also demolish the attacker herself. The ram was replaced during the Middle Ages with a slender ''corsia'', a spur-like puncher above the waterline which could be used on dis-oaring the enemy vessel and as a boarding bridge for marine combat.
8th Apr '17 1:32:44 PM nombretomado
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* In the {{Redwall}} book Salamandstron, [[spoiler: Urthstripe the Strong]] goes berserk at the end, ignoring his wounds and went out to fight the BigBad. [[spoiler: He succeeds, hurling himself off the mountain with said big bad.]]

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* In the {{Redwall}} {{Literature/Redwall}} book Salamandstron, ''Salamandstron'', [[spoiler: Urthstripe the Strong]] goes berserk at the end, ignoring his wounds and went out to fight the BigBad. [[spoiler: He succeeds, hurling himself off the mountain with said big bad.]]
11th Mar '17 11:36:51 AM nombretomado
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* A truly epic example from the end of ''MetalGearSolid4'', with [[spoiler:Snake stumbling then crawling his way to GW through a hallway literally cooking him with microwaves.]] If you take too long, [[spoiler: Snake will literally use his ''fingers'' to move himself inch by desperate inch towards the end of the hall.]]

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* A truly epic example from the end of ''MetalGearSolid4'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'', with [[spoiler:Snake stumbling then crawling his way to GW through a hallway literally cooking him with microwaves.]] If you take too long, [[spoiler: Snake will literally use his ''fingers'' to move himself inch by desperate inch towards the end of the hall.]]
20th Feb '17 8:10:25 PM BURGINABC
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# If it's a villain, usually the villain will have their legs blown off somehow and end up crawling toward their target before being put out of their misery by the hero. In most cases, the villain NEVER reaches the target unless it's a SelfDestructMechanism... in which case it's a TakingYouWithMe kind of thing.

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# If it's a villain, usually the villain will have their legs blown off somehow and end up crawling toward their target before being put out of their misery by the hero. In most cases, the villain NEVER reaches does not reach the target unless it's a SelfDestructMechanism... in which case it's a TakingYouWithMe kind of thing.
22nd Jan '17 12:51:57 AM Hjortron18
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* ''Film/WarHorse'': A somewhat accidental one; the British cavalry unit the titular horse is attached to charges a seemingly poorly defended enemy camp, only to be mowed down by gatling guns secured just inside the tree line at the edge of the clearing. The casualties are enormous, and it earns the British commander a WhatTheHellHero speech from the Germans.

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* ''Film/WarHorse'': ''Literature/WarHorse'': A somewhat accidental one; the British cavalry unit the titular horse is attached to charges a seemingly poorly defended enemy camp, only to be mowed down by gatling guns secured just inside the tree line at the edge of the clearing. The casualties are enormous, and it earns the British commander a WhatTheHellHero speech from the Germans.
22nd Sep '16 9:28:04 PM nombretomado
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* One of the most memorable scenes of the classic movie ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'' is when the protagonist charges a battery of guns, armed only with a flag, to the tune of ''Dixie.'' [[spoiler: He survives, [[ValuesDissonance and goes on to found the Ku Klux Klan in the final act]].]]

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* One of the most memorable scenes of the classic movie ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'' ''Film/{{The Birth of a Nation|1915}}'' is when the protagonist charges a battery of guns, armed only with a flag, to the tune of ''Dixie.'' [[spoiler: He survives, [[ValuesDissonance and goes on to found the Ku Klux Klan in the final act]].]]
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