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22nd Jan '18 2:49:37 AM jormis29
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* The ''VideoGame/MedalOfHonor'' games set in the Pacific theatre are quite a study in contrasts. The PC version of ''[[VideoGame/MedalOfHonorPacificAssault Pacific Assault]]'' in particular makes a considerable effort to be true to history; it actually remembers that the US Marines were still equipped with bolt-action Springfields long after the Garand became standard-issue to the Army, and includes oft-overlooked weapons like the .45 ACP M1917 revolver - even modelling the half-moon clips used to load it - and the [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns infamous]] M55 Reising. The console version ''Rising Sun''? Not so much.

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* The ''VideoGame/MedalOfHonor'' games set in the Pacific theatre are quite a study in contrasts. The PC version of ''[[VideoGame/MedalOfHonorPacificAssault Pacific Assault]]'' in particular makes a considerable effort to be true to history; it actually remembers that the US Marines were still equipped with bolt-action Springfields long after the Garand became standard-issue to the Army, and includes oft-overlooked weapons like the .45 ACP M1917 revolver - even modelling the half-moon clips used to load it - and the [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns infamous]] M55 Reising. The console version ''Rising Sun''? ''[[VideoGame/MedalOfHonorRisingSun Rising Sun]]''? Not so much.
8th Dec '17 4:23:35 PM DirtyHarry44Magnum
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* The ''VideoGame/MedalOfHonor'' games set in the Pacific theatre are quite a study in contrasts. The PC version of ''Pacific Assault'' in particular makes a considerable effort to be true to history; it actually remembers that the US Marines were still equipped with bolt-action Springfields long after the Garand became standard-issue to the Army, and includes oft-overlooked weapons like the .45 ACP M1917 revolver - even modelling the half-moon clips used to load it - and the [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns infamous]] M55 Reising. The console version ''Rising Sun''? Not so much.

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* The ''VideoGame/MedalOfHonor'' games set in the Pacific theatre are quite a study in contrasts. The PC version of ''Pacific Assault'' ''[[VideoGame/MedalOfHonorPacificAssault Pacific Assault]]'' in particular makes a considerable effort to be true to history; it actually remembers that the US Marines were still equipped with bolt-action Springfields long after the Garand became standard-issue to the Army, and includes oft-overlooked weapons like the .45 ACP M1917 revolver - even modelling the half-moon clips used to load it - and the [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns infamous]] M55 Reising. The console version ''Rising Sun''? Not so much.
8th Dec '17 4:22:18 PM DirtyHarry44Magnum
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** ''Airborne'' has a very bizarre case. The first level, "Operation Husky", has you fighting Italian Blackshirts. However they're armed with the German Karabiner 98k and MP-40 instead of Italian made Carcano rifles and Beretta Model 38 submachine guns. You're only halfway through that level before the Blackshirts give way entirely for the Wehrmacht for the entire rest of the game, although this part is justified in that the second level onwards take place following the Italian surrender and subsequent German occupation of the country.

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** ''Airborne'' has ''[[VideoGame/MedalOfHonorVanguard Vanguard]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/MedalOfHonorAirborne Airborne]]'' both have a very bizarre case. The first level, level of Vanguard, 'Off Target' and the first level of Airborne, "Operation Husky", has respectively, have you fighting Italian Blackshirts. However they're armed with the German Karabiner 98k and MP-40 instead of Italian made Carcano rifles and Beretta Model 38 submachine guns. You're In Vangaurd's case the Italian Soldiers do not appear again after the first level and are replaced with German Soldiers for the rest of the game, even the second level, which still takes place in Sicily. In Airborne's case, you're only halfway through that level before the Blackshirts give way entirely for the Wehrmacht for the entire rest of the game, although this part is justified in that the second level onwards take place following the Italian surrender and subsequent German occupation of the country.
11th Nov '17 9:21:16 AM CynicalBastardo
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* ''VideoGame/{{Commandos}} 2: Men of Courage'' features British commandos whose standard weaponry is made of Lee-Enfield rifles (British), M1911 handguns (American), M1903 Springfield sniper rifles (American), [=PIATs=] (British) and Mills bombs (British). The German weapons available are [=K98K=] Mauser rifles (both scoped and non-scoped version), [=MP40=] submachine guns and P08 Luger handguns. All good and acceptable, but several other common weapons like the Sten, Thompson, M3, Webley, and Walther P38 don't appear at all.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Commandos}}''
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''VideoGame/{{Commandos}} 2: Men of Courage'' features British commandos whose standard weaponry is made of Lee-Enfield rifles (British), M1911 handguns (American), M1903 Springfield sniper rifles (American), [=PIATs=] (British) and Mills bombs (British). The German weapons available are [=K98K=] Mauser rifles (both scoped and non-scoped version), [=MP40=] submachine guns and P08 Luger handguns. The Japanese get the Type 94 pistol and the Arisaka Type 38 (Standard) and Type 97 (Sniper) rifles. All good and acceptable, but several other common weapons like the Sten, Thompson, M3, Webley, and Walther P38 don't appear at all.all.
** The original game, ''Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines'', gave the [=M3=] Grease Gun to the team's sole American, the Driver, as a limited ammunition weapon and in the standalone expansion pack, ''Beyond The Call Of Duty'', a Lee-Enfield rifle is added to his arsenal. The rest of team carry a "[[AKA47 Smith & Wesson W9]]", which best resembles a Smith & Wesson 4506, which was [[AnachronismStew not produced until 1988]].
** The third game adds the [[RareGuns Stg44]] to the German side a number of years prior to its adoption in real life.
16th Jul '17 12:03:40 PM nombretomado
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* Many films, television shows and video games set just before or during WW2 will have inappropriately placed weapons for the time frame they are being displayed in. Three common culprits are the German [=MP40=] and [=MG42=] and the American [=M1=] Garand rifle, which are frequently depicted in scenes set before they were widely deployed or even developed.

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* Many films, television shows and video games set just before or during WW2 [=WW2=] will have inappropriately placed weapons for the time frame they are being displayed in. Three common culprits are the German [=MP40=] and [=MG42=] and the American [=M1=] Garand rifle, which are frequently depicted in scenes set before they were widely deployed or even developed.
12th Jul '17 10:48:51 AM ArJayKay
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* ''VideoGame/DayOfInfamy'' tries to keep it realistic as possible in regards to what is available to who, particularly only allowing the German team access to the [=StG=]-44 in maps based on battles that take place after its adoption, actually making two different Thompson SMG models (the [=M1A1=] for the American military and the older M1928 for the Commonwealth), and using the original version of the M3 Grease Gun instead of the [=M3A1=], which wasn't available for some of the battles present in the game, but it does slip up in one instance - the only faction that has access to a shotgun is the Commonwealth. This can be justified on the German side, in that during and after World War I they saw usage of shotguns in war as barbaric (the shotgun was a hunting weapon, so to them using a shotgun to kill soldiers was the equivalent of comparing those soldiers to animals). However, the shotgun the Commonwealth gets, the Ithaca 37, is one of the most famous ''American'' models in modern history, which did see quite a bit of use within the American forces alongside the Winchester 1897 and 1912 - but no such luck in this game.

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* ''VideoGame/DayOfInfamy'' tries to keep it realistic as possible in regards to what is available to who, particularly only allowing the German team access to the [=StG=]-44 in maps based on battles that take place after its adoption, actually making two different Thompson SMG models (the [=M1A1=] for the American military and the older M1928 for the Commonwealth), and using the original version of the M3 Grease Gun instead of the [=M3A1=], which wasn't available for some of the battles present in the game, but it does slip up in one instance - the only faction that has access to a shotgun is the Commonwealth. This can be justified on the German side, in that during and after World War I they saw usage of shotguns in war as barbaric (the shotgun was a (shotguns [[ValuesDissonance were seen by Europeans]] as hunting weapon, weapons, so to them using a shotgun to kill soldiers was the equivalent of comparing those soldiers to animals). However, the shotgun the Commonwealth gets, the Ithaca 37, is one of the most famous ''American'' models in modern history, which did see quite a bit of use within the American forces alongside the Winchester 1897 and 1912 - but no such luck in this game.
21st Jun '17 3:42:49 PM Kadorhal
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* ''VideoGame/DayOfInfamy'' tries to keep it realistic as possible in regards to what is available to who, particularly only allowing the German team access to the [=StG=]-44 in maps based on battles that take place after its adoption, and actually making two different Thompson SMG models (the [=M1A1=] for the American military and the older M1928 for the Commonwealth), but it does slip up in one instance - the only faction that has access to a shotgun is the Commonwealth. This can be justified on the German side, in that during and after World War I they saw usage of shotguns in war as barbaric (the shotgun was a hunting weapon, so to them using a shotgun to kill soldiers was the equivalent of comparing those soldiers to animals). However, the shotgun the Commonwealth gets, the Ithaca 37, is one of the most famous ''American'' models in modern history, which did see quite a bit of use within the American forces alongside the Winchester 1897 and 1912 - but no such luck in this game.

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* ''VideoGame/DayOfInfamy'' tries to keep it realistic as possible in regards to what is available to who, particularly only allowing the German team access to the [=StG=]-44 in maps based on battles that take place after its adoption, and actually making two different Thompson SMG models (the [=M1A1=] for the American military and the older M1928 for the Commonwealth), and using the original version of the M3 Grease Gun instead of the [=M3A1=], which wasn't available for some of the battles present in the game, but it does slip up in one instance - the only faction that has access to a shotgun is the Commonwealth. This can be justified on the German side, in that during and after World War I they saw usage of shotguns in war as barbaric (the shotgun was a hunting weapon, so to them using a shotgun to kill soldiers was the equivalent of comparing those soldiers to animals). However, the shotgun the Commonwealth gets, the Ithaca 37, is one of the most famous ''American'' models in modern history, which did see quite a bit of use within the American forces alongside the Winchester 1897 and 1912 - but no such luck in this game.
27th May '17 12:19:55 PM nombretomado
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* Most works set during TheVietnamWar will feature the [[CoolGuns/AssaultRifles M16A1]], [[CoolGuns/{{Handguns}} M1911A1]], [[CoolGuns/RocketsMissilesAndGrenadeLaunchers M79]] and [[CoolGuns/MachineGuns M60]], generally ignoring other common weapons, such as the [[CoolGuns/SubmachineGuns Grease Gun]] and even the [[CoolGuns/BattleRifles M14]].

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* Most works set during TheVietnamWar UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar will feature the [[CoolGuns/AssaultRifles M16A1]], [[CoolGuns/{{Handguns}} M1911A1]], [[CoolGuns/RocketsMissilesAndGrenadeLaunchers M79]] and [[CoolGuns/MachineGuns M60]], generally ignoring other common weapons, such as the [[CoolGuns/SubmachineGuns Grease Gun]] and even the [[CoolGuns/BattleRifles M14]].
27th May '17 2:44:57 AM DavidCowie
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Military fiction set in the past, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII in particular, will often inexplicably leave out weapons that should be very common, often in favour of [[RuleOfCool "cooler"]] but [[RareGuns rarer or even anachronistic items]]. In films, this can be explained by availiability of props, but video games have little excuse other than the developers cutting corners, especially if they took the time to model other weapons that have little in-game use, like pistols.

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Military fiction set in the past, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII in particular, will often inexplicably leave out weapons that should be very common, often in favour of [[RuleOfCool "cooler"]] but [[RareGuns rarer or even anachronistic items]]. In films, this can be explained by availiability availability of props, but video games have little excuse other than the developers cutting corners, especially if they took the time to model other weapons that have little in-game use, like pistols.
21st May '17 11:57:48 AM Kadorhal
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** Games that feature British player characters seldom offer them the Thompson either, despite it seeing quite a bit of service alongside the more common - [[ShurFineGuns if persnickety]] - Sten.

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** Games that feature British player characters seldom offer them the Thompson either, despite it seeing quite a bit of service alongside the more common - [[ShurFineGuns [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns if persnickety]] - Sten.



** ''Airborne'' has a very bizarre case. The first level, "Operation Husky" has you fighting Italian Blackshirts. However they're armed with the German Karabiner 98k and MP-40 instead of Italian made Carcano Rifle and Beretta Model 38 sub-machinegun. You're only halfway through that level before the Blackshirts give way entirely for the Wehrmacht for the entire rest of the game - even though the next two levels or so still take place in Italy. Though, when taking FridgeBrilliance into account, the ''Avalance'' level takes place following the Italian surrender and subsequent German occupation of the country, this is Justified.

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** ''Airborne'' has a very bizarre case. The first level, "Operation Husky" Husky", has you fighting Italian Blackshirts. However they're armed with the German Karabiner 98k and MP-40 instead of Italian made Carcano Rifle rifles and Beretta Model 38 sub-machinegun. submachine guns. You're only halfway through that level before the Blackshirts give way entirely for the Wehrmacht for the entire rest of the game - even though game, although this part is justified in that the next two levels or so still take place in Italy. Though, when taking FridgeBrilliance into account, the ''Avalance'' second level takes onwards take place following the Italian surrender and subsequent German occupation of the country, country.
* ''VideoGame/DayOfInfamy'' tries to keep it realistic as possible in regards to what is available to who, particularly only allowing the German team access to the [=StG=]-44 in maps based on battles that take place after its adoption, and actually making two different Thompson SMG models (the [=M1A1=] for the American military and the older M1928 for the Commonwealth), but it does slip up in one instance - the only faction that has access to a shotgun is the Commonwealth. This can be justified on the German side, in that during and after World War I they saw usage of shotguns in war as barbaric (the shotgun was a hunting weapon, so to them using a shotgun to kill soldiers was the equivalent of comparing those soldiers to animals). However, the shotgun the Commonwealth gets, the Ithaca 37, is one of the most famous ''American'' models in modern history, which did see quite a bit of use within the American forces alongside the Winchester 1897 and 1912 - but no such luck in
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** The first game had Panzerfausts but no Panzershrecks, your SAS troops could outfit themselves with Bazookas, but not with [=PIATs=]. There were also some other odd absences, like the Colt 1911 being the only handgun available, and nearly all rifles only being available with scopes mounted. The expansion pack introduced a better selection of rifles with iron sights and the Luger P-08... But not its replacement, the Walther P38. Also, the player can meet some Soviet soldiers in the last mission of the first game, who carry American carbines, which are the standard SAS rifle.

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** The first game had Panzerfausts but no Panzershrecks, your SAS troops could outfit themselves with Bazookas, but not with [=PIATs=]. There were also some other odd absences, like the Colt 1911 being the only handgun available, and nearly all rifles only being available with scopes mounted. The expansion pack introduced a better selection of rifles with iron sights and the Luger P-08... But but not its replacement, the Walther P38. Also, the player can meet some Soviet soldiers in the last mission of the first game, who carry American carbines, which are the standard SAS rifle.
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