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1st May '16 1:42:14 PM OrigamiTovaychy
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* Shouko Aihara from Gakuen Saimin Reido. Is originally a male bully and playboy known as Akira Aihara before getting hypnotized to take estrogen pills and breast implants and after reaching the female shape. Akira gets hypnotized again to act more feminine and is renamed Shouko.

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23rd Jan '16 8:56:19 PM DarkHunter
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}''. Despite her life being much improved in several aspects, Ash is still vehemently trying to go back to being a boy, even if it means that all the good things she achieved in the meantime disappear. Keeping a firm grasp of "his" male identity remains top priority over all else.

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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}''. Despite her life being much improved in several aspects, Ash is still vehemently trying to go back to being a boy, even if it means that all the good things she achieved in the meantime disappear. Keeping a firm grasp of "his" male identity remains top priority over all else. Indeed, suddenly waking up as a girl and dealing with the loss of masculinity that living as a girl comes with is played more for horror than comedy.
4th Jan '16 11:20:06 AM LadyJaneGrey
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Possibly Tiresias from GreekMythology, who spent seven years as a woman after killing a mating female snake, then transformed back into a man after killing a male; at very least, one can assume he enjoyed sex better as a woman. Zeus and Hera called upon him to settle an argument over which gender enjoyed it more (as he alone had experienced it from both perspectives), and Tiresias claimed, "Of ten parts a man enjoys one only." (In other words, he was saying a woman enjoys it ten times as much.)
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7th Nov '15 9:46:01 PM Softy
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* This is definitely not TruthInTelevision. Messing with a person's gender identity in RealLife usually results in dysphoria instead of acceptance. However, since it's still not possible to literally change a person's biological sex (a so-called "sex change" only alters physical features, not the brain) and genderbending is much less coherent when gender is not equated to biological sex, there are very few RealLife examples to draw from.
** Also, a common law is only to give sex changes after 3 psychiatrists' approval. This is ostensibly a failsafe intended to enforce this trope. Given that most people put a little thought into the matter before opting for major surgery on sensitive areas of their bodies and the obstructionist attitude of many psychiatrists, the soundness of the given reason for this requirement is questionable. On the flip side, many other people seem to think changing sex will solve whatever problems exist in their lives, hence the requirement for psych evals.
** The vast majority of transgender (and related) individuals who were/are forced or "received treatment" to align them to what society accepts as their actual gender have suffered immeasurably. Prayer, abstinence, various therapies, medication and many other types of treatments to realign an individual whose gender identity does not match their biological gender (by trying to enforce the biological gender over their gender identity) have failed[[note]]the flip side is that a significant number of people who have sex reassignment surgery discover they're not much if any happier afterward anyway[[/note]] and resulted in a great deal of suffering for the individual. The same goes for individuals whose gender identity's do not fit into the stereotypical binary gender system. Attempting to morph gender identity severely damages an individual.
** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer David Reimer]] case is a famous inversion. When doctors botched a circumcision and [[BodyHorror cut off the baby's penis instead]], some [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money quack psychologist]] thought he would use this opportunity to prove that gender is based on nurture rather than nature, and had the parents raise this child as a girl instead hoping he would just accept his new gender. This did not work, as the child always felt confused and grew to intensely hate the psychologist who was using "her" as his personal guinea pig the whole time.

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* This is definitely not TruthInTelevision. Messing with a person's gender identity in RealLife usually results in dysphoria instead of acceptance. However, since it's still not possible to literally change a person's biological sex (a so-called "sex change" only alters physical features, not the brain) and genderbending is much less coherent when gender is not equated to biological sex, there are very few RealLife examples to draw from.
** Also, a common law is only to give sex changes after 3 psychiatrists' approval. This is ostensibly a failsafe intended to enforce this trope. Given that most people put a little thought into the matter before opting for major surgery on sensitive areas of their bodies and the obstructionist attitude of many psychiatrists, the soundness of the given reason for this requirement is questionable. On the flip side, many other people seem to think changing sex will solve whatever problems exist in their lives, hence the requirement for psych evals.
** The vast majority of transgender (and related) individuals who were/are forced or "received treatment" to align them to what society accepts as their actual gender have suffered immeasurably. Prayer, abstinence, various therapies, medication and many other types of treatments to realign an individual whose gender identity does not match their biological gender (by trying to enforce the biological gender over their gender identity) have failed[[note]]the flip side is that a significant number of people who have sex reassignment surgery discover they're not much if any happier afterward anyway[[/note]] and resulted in a great deal of suffering for the individual. The same goes for individuals whose gender identity's do not fit into the stereotypical binary gender system. Attempting to morph gender identity severely damages an individual.
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The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer David Reimer]] case is a famous inversion. aversion. When doctors botched a circumcision and [[BodyHorror cut off the baby's penis instead]], penis]], some [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money quack psychologist]] thought he would use this opportunity to prove that gender is wholly based on nurture rather than nature, and had the parents raise this child as a girl instead hoping girl, expecting that he would just accept his new gender. This did not work, as the child always felt confused and grew to intensely hate the psychologist who was using "her" as his personal guinea pig the whole time.pig.


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* Common restriction in regards to those who seek sex reassignment surgery is to obtain a psychiatrist's approval (or ''several'' psychiatrists' approvals) following a lengthy evaluation period, before the surgery can be performed. This intended as a means of enforcing this trope, making sure that the GenderBender is likely to be happy after the procedure, rather than come to regret it.
5th Nov '15 5:36:39 PM nombretomado
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* Averted in RanmaOneHalf: Ranma never, ever, ever stops looking for a cure for his curse (except for one filler episode after he hits his head) though he does stop complaining about it. That said, Ranma starts to bring his macho approach to acting girly and cute. As seen in his competition with Tsubasa, Ranma's competitive streak is so hardwired that he even refuses to lose in a contest of femininity.

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* Averted in RanmaOneHalf: ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': Ranma never, ever, ever stops looking for a cure for his curse (except for one filler episode after he hits his head) though he does stop complaining about it. That said, Ranma starts to bring his macho approach to acting girly and cute. As seen in his competition with Tsubasa, Ranma's competitive streak is so hardwired that he even refuses to lose in a contest of femininity.
28th Oct '15 3:01:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* In MaryShelleysFrankenhole Victor gives himself female genitalia but is extremely hesitant when Elizabeth tries to treat him to stereotypically feminine things. It's subverted slightly when he acts traditionally feminine to date Dracula, but that was only so he could [[GoldDigger screw him over.]]

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* In MaryShelleysFrankenhole ''WesternAnimation/MaryShelleysFrankenhole'', Victor gives himself female genitalia but is extremely hesitant when Elizabeth tries to treat him to stereotypically feminine things. It's subverted slightly when he acts traditionally feminine to date Dracula, but that was only so he could [[GoldDigger screw him over.]]
18th Oct '15 7:14:15 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Inverted ''twice over'' in an ''ComicBook/{{Excalibur}}'' story where the heroes were subjected to a FreakyFridayFlip with their enemies the Crazy Gang. Not only was Meggan not very happy with the Knave's male body, the Knave was ''really'' unhappy with ''hers'' too. (Although given what he said, it may have had more to do with him not being able to control Meggan's shapeshifting ability than the gender issue.)
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2nd Oct '15 6:40:51 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''{{Paradise}}'' setting, humans are randomly, permanently changed into {{Funny Animal}}s (with some experiencing a gender-change at the same time). A number of stories follow the journey of gender-changed characters as they come to accept and then enjoy their new (usually female) gender. Some stories take this a notch further into ThirdLawOfGenderBending territory.

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* In the ''{{Paradise}}'' ''WebOriginal/{{Paradise}}'' setting, humans are randomly, permanently changed into {{Funny Animal}}s (with some experiencing a gender-change at the same time). A number of stories follow the journey of gender-changed characters as they come to accept and then enjoy their new (usually female) gender. Some stories take this a notch further into ThirdLawOfGenderBending territory.
9th Aug '15 8:30:59 PM sgamer82
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* Happens [[spoiler: at the end]] of ''CheekyAngel'' when Megumi finally realizes/admits that [[spoiler: she'd been a girl all along: lacking the power to grant her wish to become male the trickster spirit had given her a purely mental GenderBender instead. Since the delusion had helped her foster the tough, fair, forthright, and assertive (i.e., stereotypically "male") aspects of her personality Megumi considers her wish granted nonetheless.]]

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* Happens [[spoiler: at the end]] of ''CheekyAngel'' ''Manga/CheekyAngel'' when Megumi finally realizes/admits that [[spoiler: she'd been a girl all along: lacking the power to grant her wish to become male the trickster spirit had given her a purely mental GenderBender instead. Since the delusion had helped her foster the tough, fair, forthright, and assertive (i.e., stereotypically "male") aspects of her personality Megumi considers her wish granted nonetheless.]]
8th Jun '15 7:22:52 PM JustKnown
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* Mao of ''{{Manga/Maomarimo}}'' inverts the usual plot arc associated with this trope by accepting her involuntary GenderBender straight off as an act of faith in her village deity. The drama comes from the various ways her family, her best friend, and her village deal with her change. Her three older sisters exhibit the full range of reactions from simple acceptance to flat-out denial.

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* Mao of ''{{Manga/Maomarimo}}'' inverts the usual plot arc associated with this trope by accepting her involuntary GenderBender straight off as an act of faith in her village deity. The drama comes from the various ways her family, her best friend, and her village deal with her change. Her three older sisters exhibit the full range of reactions from simple acceptance to flat-out denial.
* WholesomeCrossdresser [[NozomuNozomi Tao Nozomu]] accepts that her GenderBender gives her ready access to the cuteness she craves but still hides her new gender for an entire year (gradually transforming into a SweetPollyOliver in the process) largely because she's not sure she won't change back and can't figure out how to break the news to her family and friends. Unlike most examples here Nozomu's GenderBender occurs in early puberty and he was barely past the point of noticing girls before he became one.
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