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11th Aug '16 9:40:27 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga A Civil Campaign]]'', Lady Donna Vorrutyer goes offworld for gender reassignment surgery so she can contest her vile cousin's ascension to her late brother's Countship. Lord Dono soon admits that while she primarily did it out of a sense of duty, he'd discovered there were some advantages to being a man (especially in Barrayar's highly sexist society) so even if he lost he would remain a man in order to explore them.

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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga A Civil Campaign]]'', ''Literature/ACivilCampaign'', Lady Donna Vorrutyer goes offworld for gender reassignment surgery so she can contest her vile cousin's ascension to her late brother's Countship. Lord Dono soon admits that while she primarily did it out of a sense of duty, he'd discovered there were some advantages to being a man (especially in Barrayar's highly sexist society) so even if he lost he would remain a man in order to explore them.
7th Jul '16 9:53:16 AM gewunomox
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* TheWho song "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_eSW6D6sc I'm a Boy]]" subverts this trope; the narrator can't wait to resume his normal sex role.

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* TheWho Music/TheWho song "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_eSW6D6sc I'm a Boy]]" subverts this trope; the narrator can't wait to resume his normal sex role.
30th Jun '16 2:11:00 AM morenohijazo
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Possibly Tiresias from GreekMythology, who spent seven years as a woman after killing a mating female snake, then transformed back into a man after killing a male; at very least, one can assume he enjoyed sex better as a woman. Zeus and Hera called upon him to settle an argument over which gender enjoyed it more (as he alone had experienced it from both perspectives), and Tiresias claimed, "Of ten parts a man enjoys one only." (In other words, he was saying a woman enjoys it ten times as much.)

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* Possibly Tiresias from GreekMythology, Myth/GreekMythology, who spent seven years as a woman after killing a mating female snake, then transformed back into a man after killing a male; at very least, one can assume he enjoyed sex better as a woman. Zeus and Hera called upon him to settle an argument over which gender enjoyed it more (as he alone had experienced it from both perspectives), and Tiresias claimed, "Of ten parts a man enjoys one only." (In other words, he was saying a woman enjoys it ten times as much.)



* [[spoiler: Xion]] from KingdomHearts is an iffy example. [[spoiler: She is physically male or genderless but was treated as female throughout the game.]] Regardless, she considers herself female even after the reveal.

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* [[spoiler: Xion]] from KingdomHearts ''KingdomHearts'' is an iffy example. [[spoiler: She is physically male or genderless but was treated as female throughout the game.]] Regardless, she considers herself female even after the reveal.
24th May '16 10:01:15 AM Willbyr
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* ''KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' Hazumu never expresses any desire to return to her former gender. Of course, the aliens announced from the get-go that she couldn't become a boy again even if she wanted to, but you'd think she'd have missed ''something'' about life as a boy, even if it was only the ability to write her name in the snow. However, since the gender change allows her to get together with the girl(''s'') of her dreams and her parents seem to prefer it she really doesn't have all that much to complain about. (It doesn't hurt that pre-change Hazumu was ''more girly'' than every other girl in the series and may even have been transgender without realizing it.)

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* ''KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' ''Manga/KashimashiGirlMeetsGirl'' Hazumu never expresses any desire to return to her former gender. Of course, the aliens announced from the get-go that she couldn't become a boy again even if she wanted to, but you'd think she'd have missed ''something'' about life as a boy, even if it was only the ability to write her name in the snow. However, since the gender change allows her to get together with the girl(''s'') of her dreams and her parents seem to prefer it she really doesn't have all that much to complain about. (It doesn't hurt that pre-change Hazumu was ''more girly'' than every other girl in the series and may even have been transgender without realizing it.)



* Subverted in ''{{Sekirei}}''. [[spoiler: Homura]] deals with being a girl, but she doesn't like it and is obviously still uncomfortable with her growing attraction to her DesignatedLoveInterest.

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* Subverted in ''{{Sekirei}}''.''Manga/{{Sekirei}}''. [[spoiler: Homura]] deals with being a girl, but she doesn't like it and is obviously still uncomfortable with her growing attraction to her DesignatedLoveInterest.



* WholesomeCrossdresser [[NozomuNozomi Tao Nozomu]] accepts that her GenderBender gives her ready access to the cuteness she craves but still hides her new gender for an entire year (gradually transforming into a SweetPollyOliver in the process) largely because she's not sure she won't change back and can't figure out how to break the news to her family and friends. Unlike most examples here Nozomu's GenderBender occurs in early puberty and he was barely past the point of noticing girls before he became one.

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* WholesomeCrossdresser [[NozomuNozomi [[Manga/NozomuNozomi Tao Nozomu]] accepts that her GenderBender gives her ready access to the cuteness she craves but still hides her new gender for an entire year (gradually transforming into a SweetPollyOliver in the process) largely because she's not sure she won't change back and can't figure out how to break the news to her family and friends. Unlike most examples here Nozomu's GenderBender occurs in early puberty and he was barely past the point of noticing girls before he became one.
14th May '16 12:49:36 PM DeisTheAlcano
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* Played with in ''Film/{{Switch}}'' as [[spoiler: when in heaven]] the protagonist can't decide whether to be a male or female [[spoiler: angel.]]

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* Played with in ''Film/{{Switch}}'' ''Film/Switch1991'' as [[spoiler: when in heaven]] the protagonist can't decide whether to be a male or female [[spoiler: angel.]][[spoiler:angel while in Heaven]].
1st May '16 1:42:14 PM OrigamiTovaychy
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* Shouko Aihara from Gakuen Saimin Reido. Is originally a male bully and playboy known as Akira Aihara before getting hypnotized to take estrogen pills and breast implants and after reaching the female shape. Akira gets hypnotized again to act more feminine and is renamed Shouko.

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23rd Jan '16 8:56:19 PM DarkHunter
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}''. Despite her life being much improved in several aspects, Ash is still vehemently trying to go back to being a boy, even if it means that all the good things she achieved in the meantime disappear. Keeping a firm grasp of "his" male identity remains top priority over all else.

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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}''. Despite her life being much improved in several aspects, Ash is still vehemently trying to go back to being a boy, even if it means that all the good things she achieved in the meantime disappear. Keeping a firm grasp of "his" male identity remains top priority over all else. Indeed, suddenly waking up as a girl and dealing with the loss of masculinity that living as a girl comes with is played more for horror than comedy.
4th Jan '16 11:20:06 AM LadyJaneGrey
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Possibly Tiresias from GreekMythology, who spent seven years as a woman after killing a mating female snake, then transformed back into a man after killing a male; at very least, one can assume he enjoyed sex better as a woman. Zeus and Hera called upon him to settle an argument over which gender enjoyed it more (as he alone had experienced it from both perspectives), and Tiresias claimed, "Of ten parts a man enjoys one only." (In other words, he was saying a woman enjoys it ten times as much.)
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7th Nov '15 9:46:01 PM Softy
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* This is definitely not TruthInTelevision. Messing with a person's gender identity in RealLife usually results in dysphoria instead of acceptance. However, since it's still not possible to literally change a person's biological sex (a so-called "sex change" only alters physical features, not the brain) and genderbending is much less coherent when gender is not equated to biological sex, there are very few RealLife examples to draw from.
** Also, a common law is only to give sex changes after 3 psychiatrists' approval. This is ostensibly a failsafe intended to enforce this trope. Given that most people put a little thought into the matter before opting for major surgery on sensitive areas of their bodies and the obstructionist attitude of many psychiatrists, the soundness of the given reason for this requirement is questionable. On the flip side, many other people seem to think changing sex will solve whatever problems exist in their lives, hence the requirement for psych evals.
** The vast majority of transgender (and related) individuals who were/are forced or "received treatment" to align them to what society accepts as their actual gender have suffered immeasurably. Prayer, abstinence, various therapies, medication and many other types of treatments to realign an individual whose gender identity does not match their biological gender (by trying to enforce the biological gender over their gender identity) have failed[[note]]the flip side is that a significant number of people who have sex reassignment surgery discover they're not much if any happier afterward anyway[[/note]] and resulted in a great deal of suffering for the individual. The same goes for individuals whose gender identity's do not fit into the stereotypical binary gender system. Attempting to morph gender identity severely damages an individual.
** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer David Reimer]] case is a famous inversion. When doctors botched a circumcision and [[BodyHorror cut off the baby's penis instead]], some [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money quack psychologist]] thought he would use this opportunity to prove that gender is based on nurture rather than nature, and had the parents raise this child as a girl instead hoping he would just accept his new gender. This did not work, as the child always felt confused and grew to intensely hate the psychologist who was using "her" as his personal guinea pig the whole time.

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* This is definitely not TruthInTelevision. Messing with a person's gender identity in RealLife usually results in dysphoria instead of acceptance. However, since it's still not possible to literally change a person's biological sex (a so-called "sex change" only alters physical features, not the brain) and genderbending is much less coherent when gender is not equated to biological sex, there are very few RealLife examples to draw from.
** Also, a common law is only to give sex changes after 3 psychiatrists' approval. This is ostensibly a failsafe intended to enforce this trope. Given that most people put a little thought into the matter before opting for major surgery on sensitive areas of their bodies and the obstructionist attitude of many psychiatrists, the soundness of the given reason for this requirement is questionable. On the flip side, many other people seem to think changing sex will solve whatever problems exist in their lives, hence the requirement for psych evals.
** The vast majority of transgender (and related) individuals who were/are forced or "received treatment" to align them to what society accepts as their actual gender have suffered immeasurably. Prayer, abstinence, various therapies, medication and many other types of treatments to realign an individual whose gender identity does not match their biological gender (by trying to enforce the biological gender over their gender identity) have failed[[note]]the flip side is that a significant number of people who have sex reassignment surgery discover they're not much if any happier afterward anyway[[/note]] and resulted in a great deal of suffering for the individual. The same goes for individuals whose gender identity's do not fit into the stereotypical binary gender system. Attempting to morph gender identity severely damages an individual.
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The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer David Reimer]] case is a famous inversion. aversion. When doctors botched a circumcision and [[BodyHorror cut off the baby's penis instead]], penis]], some [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money quack psychologist]] thought he would use this opportunity to prove that gender is wholly based on nurture rather than nature, and had the parents raise this child as a girl instead hoping girl, expecting that he would just accept his new gender. This did not work, as the child always felt confused and grew to intensely hate the psychologist who was using "her" as his personal guinea pig the whole time.pig.


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* Common restriction in regards to those who seek sex reassignment surgery is to obtain a psychiatrist's approval (or ''several'' psychiatrists' approvals) following a lengthy evaluation period, before the surgery can be performed. This intended as a means of enforcing this trope, making sure that the GenderBender is likely to be happy after the procedure, rather than come to regret it.
5th Nov '15 5:36:39 PM nombretomado
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* Averted in RanmaOneHalf: Ranma never, ever, ever stops looking for a cure for his curse (except for one filler episode after he hits his head) though he does stop complaining about it. That said, Ranma starts to bring his macho approach to acting girly and cute. As seen in his competition with Tsubasa, Ranma's competitive streak is so hardwired that he even refuses to lose in a contest of femininity.

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* Averted in RanmaOneHalf: ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'': Ranma never, ever, ever stops looking for a cure for his curse (except for one filler episode after he hits his head) though he does stop complaining about it. That said, Ranma starts to bring his macho approach to acting girly and cute. As seen in his competition with Tsubasa, Ranma's competitive streak is so hardwired that he even refuses to lose in a contest of femininity.
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