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18th Jun '18 9:41:55 AM meanmetalmario
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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheWeekenders'' has this, although it's not immediately obvious, and only Bluke realized it with his SimplemindedWisdom. The game in question was a scavenger hunt played by teams of five. First place is a pool table, second place is a pizza. Bluke mentions that the pizza was the best prize when he and the main characters get in second place, then explains why -- you can split a pizza five ways, but how do you split a pool table? Cue the winning team arguing bitterly about who gets the pool table and how they're going to divide up its use between them.

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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheWeekenders'' has this, although it's not immediately obvious, and only Bluke realized it with his SimplemindedWisdom. The game in question was a scavenger hunt played by teams of five. First place is prize was a pool table, second place is prize was a pizza. When the team consisting of Bluke mentions that the pizza was the best prize when he and the four main characters get in second place, then explains why -- you can split the main four are disappointed, but Bluke isn't, and says that the pizza is actually the better prize out of the two. Why? Because a pizza can be easily shared between five ways, people, but how do you split a pool table? Cue table can't. We then see the winning team arguing bitterly about who which one of them gets to keep the pool table in their house and how they're going to divide up its use between them.
3rd Jun '18 8:40:59 PM AtticusOmundson
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[[caption-width-right:350:"[[Creator/AchievementHunter IT'S LIKE I GOT A BLOWJOB]] [[https://youtu.be/F0HhWnM8z7M?t=1792 FROM GOD!!!]]"]]
29th Apr '18 8:39:11 AM costanton11
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** A similar scenario happened in an episode of ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' during Wesley's timed exam to enter Starfleet Academy. He took time out to help another candidate, but was pointedly not penalized for doing so.

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** A similar scenario happened in an episode of ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' during Wesley's timed exam to enter Starfleet Academy. He took time out to help another candidate, but was pointedly not penalized for doing so.
28th Apr '18 11:06:56 AM Brady515
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** In another episode, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS2E19LisasSubstitute Lisa's Substitute]]", Bart runs against Martin Prince in the Class President election. Bart loses and is dejected at first, until Homer convinces him that he wouldn't have gotten anything out of that anyway.
21st Apr '18 8:25:32 PM shawnvw
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** A similar scenario happened in an episode of ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' during Wesley's timed exam to enter Starfleet Academy. He took time out to help another candidate, but was pointedly not penalized for doing so.
14th Apr '18 10:55:34 AM KingLyger
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** ''[[GratuitousFrench Le lanterne rouge]]'' is also a sought-after position in the Tour de France, although there is no actual prize, other than the notoriety.

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** ''[[GratuitousFrench Le The Tour de France bicycle race uses the same term for the racer who comes in last place (''Le lanterne rouge]]'' is also a sought-after position in the Tour de France, rouge''), although there is no actual prize, prize other than the notoriety.



* On ''Series/AmericanIdol'', there seems to be an unspoken rule that it's ''better'' to come in the top ten but not the top two; such singers still have a chance to be picked up by a record label, but not sign their souls away to 19 Entertainment (the company behind American Idol), and thus have more creative control over their careers.
** Technically, 19 Entertainment has "right of first refusal" over all contestants who make the Top 10, meaning that no other label can sign a contestant for a set period of time. (This is to prevent losing contestants from cashing in on their micro-celebrity to sell units for a different record label.) However, making the Top 10 ensures a slot on the post-show concert tour (which pays well) and many contestants that ''are'' signed by 19 Entertainment do well without the "American Idol" label, as they have more time to put out a first single,[[note]]They won't be allowed to compete with the winner's debut single from the finale.[[/note]] arguably more freedom over their artistic identity (particularly if the contestant is better at a genre other than pop), and faux-"authenticity." Chris Daughtry was immediately signed upon being eliminated and has outsold ... who won that season again?[[note]]Taylor Hicks.[[/note]]

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* On ''Series/AmericanIdol'', there seems to be an unspoken rule that it's ''better'' to come in the top ten ten, but not the top two; such singers still have a chance to be picked up by a record label, but not sign their souls away to 19 Entertainment (the company behind American Idol), and thus have more creative control over their careers.
** Technically, 19 Entertainment has "right of first refusal" over all contestants who make the Top 10, meaning that no other label can sign a contestant for a set period of time. (This is to prevent losing contestants from cashing in on their micro-celebrity to sell units for a different record label.) However, making the Top 10 ensures a slot on the post-show concert tour (which pays well) and many contestants that ''are'' signed by 19 Entertainment do well without the "American Idol" label, as they have more time to put out a first single,[[note]]They won't be allowed to compete with the winner's debut single from the finale.[[/note]] arguably more freedom over their artistic identity (particularly if the contestant is better at a genre other than pop), and faux-"authenticity." Chris Daughtry was immediately signed upon being eliminated and has outsold ... who won outsold that season again?[[note]]Taylor season's winner, Taylor Hicks.[[/note]]
14th Apr '18 10:52:07 AM KingLyger
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# The character does know, resulting in a sort of non–video game version of DoWellButNotPerfect. For added [[HilarityEnsues hilarity]], they might fall victim to SpringtimeForHitler and win anyway.
# The character is a rookie having his first shot at the big-time and would have no realistic chance of winning yet anyway ([[UnderdogsNeverLose despite what most sports movies would have you believe]]). The fact that he or she manages to place ''at all'' is considered a moral victory.

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# The character does know, know beforehand what the prizes are, resulting in a sort of non–video game version of DoWellButNotPerfect. For added [[HilarityEnsues hilarity]], they might fall victim to SpringtimeForHitler and [[SpringtimeForHitler win anyway.
anyway despite trying to come in second]].
# The character is a rookie having his first shot at the big-time big-time, and would have no realistic chance of winning yet anyway this soon ([[UnderdogsNeverLose despite what most sports movies would have you believe]]). The fact that he or she manages to place ''at all'' is considered a moral victory.



# A variation of this is when the runner up is remembered more than the actual winner. This often happens in sports and reality shows (see TheRunnerUpTakesItAll).

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# A variation of this is when the runner up runner-up is remembered more than the actual winner. This often happens in sports and reality shows (see TheRunnerUpTakesItAll).TheRunnerUpTakesItAll).
11th Feb '18 2:30:05 PM rjd1922
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' there is a BossRush challenge pitting you against the 12 main bosses you fought before in the main storyline, which you can quit after defeating any of them. Quitting after the 8 bosses nets the player an indestructible shield, which is unarguably the best prize in that minigame and ''much'' more valuable than the Piece of Heart you get for the top prize (though you can just go through the challenge again with your new shield and get that, too).

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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' there is a BossRush challenge pitting you against the 12 main bosses you fought before in the main storyline, which you can quit after defeating any of them. Quitting after the 8 bosses nets the player an indestructible shield, which is unarguably the best prize in that minigame and ''much'' more valuable than the Piece of Heart 9900 Rupees you get for the top prize (though you can just go through the challenge again with your new shield and get that, too).
11th Feb '18 2:21:38 PM rjd1922
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** [[spoiler:Though Ash ultimately lost at the finals during the Lumoise Conference, he fares better than the actual victor, Alain. During the League ceremony, Team Flare launch their attack upon Lumoise City. Alain, being involved with Team Flare, suffers the worst kind of loss when he realizes that his entire goal was a lie and his boss Lysandre only cares about power, ignoring Mega Evolution in favor for a potentially more powerful Bond Phenomenon that Ash possess. In the aftermath the Flare crisis, Ash is constantly recognized and praised by young trainers as the Conference League finalist while Alain quietly rebuilds his life with Prof. Sycamore and privately admits Ash to be the superior trainer. Since the League ceremony wasn't finished when Team Flare attacked, it is heavily modified and officially makes everyone who stood against Lysandre champions of the Kalos League, rendering the League results a moot.]][[/folder]]

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** [[spoiler:Though Ash ultimately lost at the finals during the Lumoise Conference, he fares better than the actual victor, Alain. During the League ceremony, Team Flare launch their attack upon Lumoise City. Alain, being involved with Team Flare, suffers the worst kind of loss when he realizes that his entire goal was a lie and his boss Lysandre only cares about power, ignoring Mega Evolution in favor for a potentially more powerful Bond Phenomenon that Ash possess. In the aftermath the Flare crisis, Ash is constantly recognized and praised by young trainers as the Conference League finalist while Alain quietly rebuilds his life with Prof. Sycamore and privately admits Ash to be the superior trainer. Since the League ceremony wasn't finished when Team Flare attacked, it is heavily modified and officially makes everyone who stood against Lysandre champions of the Kalos League, rendering the League results a moot.]][[/folder]]
11th Feb '18 4:34:10 AM Morgenthaler
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