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26th Nov '16 6:43:14 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least. The Scrub is the antithesis of the "Stop Having Fun" Guy, although one could argue that the two are [[NotSoDifferent very similar]] -- "Stop Having Fun" Guys demand that everyone use the most efficient and powerful choices (with failure to do so considered proof of inferiority), while Scrubs insist that everyone follow their personal house rules (with failure to do so considered cheating). Both make the mistake of taking things [[SeriousBusiness very seriously]], both are more than willing to start a FlameWar rather than let the other exist in peace, and both are eager to [[WithUsOrAgainstUS assign anyone to the side of their enemies who doesn't agree with their style of play]]. And then there's the "tryhard", a low-level player with a scrub-like mentality who fancies themselves a high-level player and tries to adopt high-level tactics even though they have no idea how to actually pull them off. Also note that because all of these labels are "bad", most people do not consider themselves to be ''any'' of them--someone who fits the description of "Scrub" will just think they're normal while accusing any opposition of being "Tryhards" and "SHFG"s, or any such combination thereof.

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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least. The Scrub is the antithesis of the "Stop Having Fun" Guy, although one could argue that the two are [[NotSoDifferent very similar]] -- "Stop Having Fun" Guys demand that everyone use the most efficient and powerful choices (with failure to do so considered proof of inferiority), while Scrubs insist that everyone follow their personal house rules (with failure to do so considered cheating). Both make the mistake of taking things [[SeriousBusiness very seriously]], both are more than willing to start a FlameWar rather than let the other exist in peace, and both are eager to [[WithUsOrAgainstUS [[WithUsOrAgainstUs assign anyone to the side of their enemies who doesn't agree with their style of play]]. And then there's the "tryhard", a low-level player with a scrub-like mentality who fancies themselves a high-level player and tries to adopt high-level tactics even though they have no idea how to actually pull them off. Also note that because all of these labels are "bad", most people do not consider themselves to be ''any'' of them--someone who fits the description of "Scrub" will just think they're normal while accusing any opposition of being "Tryhards" and "SHFG"s, or any such combination thereof.
18th Jul '16 10:14:56 AM KingZeal
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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least. The Scrub is the antithesis of the "Stop Having Fun" Guy, although one could argue that the two are [[NotSoDifferent very similar]] -- "Stop Having Fun" Guys demand that everyone use the most efficient and powerful choices (with failure to do so considered proof of inferiority), while Scrubs insist that everyone follow their personal house rules (with failure to do so considered cheating). Both make the mistake of taking things [[SeriousBusiness very seriously]], both are more than willing to start a FlameWar rather than let the other exist in peace, and both are eager to assign anyone to the side of their enemies who doesn't agree with their style of play (if you're not a Scrub, you ''must'' be a Stop Having Fun Guy, and vice versa). The two do occasionally overlap in the form of a "tryhard", or a low-level player with a scrub-like mentality who fancies themselves a high-level player and tries to adopt high-level tactics even though they have no idea how to actually pull them off.

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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least. The Scrub is the antithesis of the "Stop Having Fun" Guy, although one could argue that the two are [[NotSoDifferent very similar]] -- "Stop Having Fun" Guys demand that everyone use the most efficient and powerful choices (with failure to do so considered proof of inferiority), while Scrubs insist that everyone follow their personal house rules (with failure to do so considered cheating). Both make the mistake of taking things [[SeriousBusiness very seriously]], both are more than willing to start a FlameWar rather than let the other exist in peace, and both are eager to [[WithUsOrAgainstUS assign anyone to the side of their enemies who doesn't agree with their style of play (if you're not a Scrub, you ''must'' be a Stop Having Fun Guy, and vice versa). The two do occasionally overlap in play]]. And then there's the form of a "tryhard", or a low-level player with a scrub-like mentality who fancies themselves a high-level player and tries to adopt high-level tactics even though they have no idea how to actually pull them off.
off. Also note that because all of these labels are "bad", most people do not consider themselves to be ''any'' of them--someone who fits the description of "Scrub" will just think they're normal while accusing any opposition of being "Tryhards" and "SHFG"s, or any such combination thereof.
15th Nov '15 12:19:43 PM Scorpion451
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The mistake the Scrub often makes is making up rules too soon. The {{Metagame}} can often turn an apparent imbalance on its head. A lower tier character can become a higher tier one, or vice versa. Or something that seemed [[MagikarpPower initially very unbalanced]] can be countered with time and effort at learning the tactic. The Scrub circumvents this by simply banning the practice without making a good faith effort in actually getting around it with the in-game rules.

The Scrub will often consider the tactics that he bans "{{Game Breaker}}s". However, what constitutes a Game Breaker varies from person to person. Within a particular skill level, a game can be broken in that [[SkillGateCharacters a simple repetitive tactic can lead to success.]] A more skilled player could stop it, but if it requires a great deal more skill to stop the tactic than to perform it, then it can easily appear to be a GameBreaker. Not that it matters; even if the "offending" player changes to a different strategy and wins again, [[MovingTheGoalposts the new strategy is also "broken"]].

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The mistake the Scrub often makes is making up rules too soon. The {{Metagame}} can often turn an apparent imbalance on its head. A lower tier character can become a higher tier one, or vice versa. Or something that seemed [[MagikarpPower [[SkillGateCharacters initially very unbalanced]] unbalanced can be countered with time and effort effort]] at learning the tactic. The Scrub circumvents this by simply banning the practice without making a good faith effort in actually getting around it with the in-game rules.

The Scrub will often consider the tactics that he bans "{{Game Breaker}}s". However, what constitutes a Game Breaker varies from person to person. Within a particular skill level, a game can be broken in that [[SkillGateCharacters [[BoringButPractical a simple repetitive tactic can lead to success.]] A more skilled player could stop it, but if it requires a great deal more skill to stop the tactic than to perform it, then it can easily appear to be a GameBreaker. Not that it matters; even if the "offending" player changes to a different strategy and wins again, [[MovingTheGoalposts the new strategy is also "broken"]].
15th Oct '15 12:15:09 PM eroock
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That you'' must ''follow when you play.''
-->'''[[Radio/TheJackBennyProgram Phil Harris]]''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aufCfiS0AA Dark Town Poker Club]]"

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That you'' must ''follow when you play.''
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-->-- '''[[Radio/TheJackBennyProgram
Phil Harris]]''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aufCfiS0AA Dark Town Poker Club]]"
30th Jun '15 6:27:20 AM technickal
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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least. The two do occasionally overlap in the form of a "tryhard", or a low-level player with a scrub-like mentality who fancies themselves a high-level player and tries to adopt high-level tactics even though they have no idea how to actually pull them off.



The Scrub is the antithesis of the [[StopHavingFunGuys Stop Having Fun Guy]], although one could argue that the two are [[NotSoDifferent very similar]] -- StopHavingFunGuys demand that everyone use the most efficient and powerful choices (with failure to do so considered proof of inferiority), while [[{{Scrub}} Scrubs]] insist that everyone follow their personal house rules (with failure to do so considered cheating). Both make the mistake of taking things [[SeriousBusiness very seriously]], both are more than willing to start a FlameWar rather than let the other exist in peace, and both are eager to assign anyone to the side of their enemies who doesn't agree with their style of play (if you're not a Scrub, you ''must'' be a Stop Having Fun Guy, and vice versa).

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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least. The Scrub is the antithesis of the [[StopHavingFunGuys Stop "Stop Having Fun Guy]], Fun" Guy, although one could argue that the two are [[NotSoDifferent very similar]] -- StopHavingFunGuys "Stop Having Fun" Guys demand that everyone use the most efficient and powerful choices (with failure to do so considered proof of inferiority), while [[{{Scrub}} Scrubs]] Scrubs insist that everyone follow their personal house rules (with failure to do so considered cheating). Both make the mistake of taking things [[SeriousBusiness very seriously]], both are more than willing to start a FlameWar rather than let the other exist in peace, and both are eager to assign anyone to the side of their enemies who doesn't agree with their style of play (if you're not a Scrub, you ''must'' be a Stop Having Fun Guy, and vice versa).
versa). The two do occasionally overlap in the form of a "tryhard", or a low-level player with a scrub-like mentality who fancies themselves a high-level player and tries to adopt high-level tactics even though they have no idea how to actually pull them off.
17th Jun '15 6:17:14 AM BaffleBlend
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->''"You all see this brand new razor?\\
I had it sharpened just today.\\
Now, I'm coming in there with ''my'' rules\\
That you'' must ''follow when you play.''
-->'''[[Radio/TheJackBennyProgram Phil Harris]]''', "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aufCfiS0AA Dark Town Poker Club]]"
8th Jun '15 9:20:44 PM Smuglord
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On the other hand, can be used by players to indiscriminately insult players they deem unworthy, or simply players they don't like. It gets thrown around so much in [[{{World of Warcraft}} World of Warcraft]] community that in most of the cases it has lost its meaning.

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On the other hand, can be used by players to indiscriminately insult players they deem unworthy, or simply players they don't like. It gets thrown around so much in [[{{World of Warcraft}} World of Warcraft]] community that in most of the cases it has lost its meaning.
meaning. (Although in reality, the meaning of "scrub" to simply mean "incompetent" came first, and using the term Scrub as a trope to define the mentality as David Sirlin did came later.)
14th Aug '14 1:15:35 AM justanid
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[[http://www.sirlin.net/ptw This book]] and [[http://insomnia.ac/commentary/domination_101/on_cheapness/ this article]] contain some of the most thorough investigations of the "scrub" phenomenon you can find anywhere.

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[[http://www.sirlin.net/ptw This book]] and [[http://insomnia.ac/commentary/domination_101/on_cheapness/ this article]] contain some of the most thorough investigations of the "scrub" phenomenon you can find anywhere. See also TallPoppySyndrome.
15th Apr '14 12:57:04 PM case
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The Scrub will often consider the tactics that he bans "{{Game Breaker}}s". However, what constitutes a Game Breaker varies from person to person. Within a particular skill level, a game can be broken in that [[SkillGateCharacters a simple repetitive tactic can lead to success.]] A more skilled player could stop it, but if it requires a great deal more skill to stop the tactic than to perform it, then it can easily appear to be a GameBreaker.

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The Scrub will often consider the tactics that he bans "{{Game Breaker}}s". However, what constitutes a Game Breaker varies from person to person. Within a particular skill level, a game can be broken in that [[SkillGateCharacters a simple repetitive tactic can lead to success.]] A more skilled player could stop it, but if it requires a great deal more skill to stop the tactic than to perform it, then it can easily appear to be a GameBreaker.
GameBreaker. Not that it matters; even if the "offending" player changes to a different strategy and wins again, [[MovingTheGoalposts the new strategy is also "broken"]].
21st Nov '13 9:22:11 AM HasturHasturHastur
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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least.

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Compare and contrast with StopHavingFunGuys, who are about as annoying to say the least.
least. The two do occasionally overlap in the form of a "tryhard", or a low-level player with a scrub-like mentality who fancies themselves a high-level player and tries to adopt high-level tactics even though they have no idea how to actually pull them off.
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