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1st Dec '16 12:36:25 AM dspeyer
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* In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'', Umbridge asks Snape for some [[TruthSerum Veritaserum]] to interrogate Harry, whom she has ''just'' caught using her fireplace for an illegal chat. He tells her that, unfortunately, she used it all up in [[ChekhovsGun the previous interrogation]], and brewing more would take a month.[[note]]And adds that, while he has plenty of poison to work with and would completely understand if she wanted to use it on Harry, it would all likely kill him too fast to get any answers.[[/note]] She responds to this by declaring him "[[InsaneTrollLogic deliberately unhelpful]]" and putting him on probation. It's the start of her VillainousBreakdown. [[spoiler: Given [[FakeDefector revelations]] in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'', he may have been lying about being out. Certainly Umbridge's accusation that he was being deliberately unhelpful, though poorly thought out, was ''correct'' -- even if he wasn't lying, he could have conveniently run out earlier, and/or conveniently forgot to restock.]]

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* In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'', Umbridge asks Snape for some [[TruthSerum Veritaserum]] to interrogate Harry, whom she has ''just'' caught using her fireplace for an illegal chat. He tells her that, unfortunately, she used it all up in [[ChekhovsGun the previous interrogation]], and brewing more would take a month.[[note]]And adds that, while he has plenty of poison to work with and would completely understand if she wanted to use it on Harry, it would all likely kill him too fast to get any answers.[[/note]] She responds to this by declaring him "[[InsaneTrollLogic deliberately unhelpful]]" and putting him on probation. It's the start of her VillainousBreakdown. [[spoiler: Given [[FakeDefector revelations]] in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'', he may have been lying about being out. He was lying about having ever given her real Veritaserum (according to Dumbledore in the denouement). Certainly Umbridge's accusation that he was being deliberately unhelpful, though poorly thought out, was ''correct'' -- even if he wasn't lying, he could have conveniently run out earlier, and/or conveniently forgot to restock.]]
9th Nov '16 7:26:21 PM hullflyer
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** The subplot in "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River" starts and ends with this, seeing a harried O'Brien trying to acquire a graviton stabilizer for Sisko -- O'Brien says it would take a month to acquire, Sisko gives him three days. In enlisting Nog's help, he accidentally barters away the Captain's desk in a ludicrously-long ChainOfDeals. O'Brien's ready to face the music when, suddenly, the desk reappears along with Nog, who [[SureLetsGoWithThat has allegedly been polishing it]]. The stabilzer is on hand, too, and a relieved O'Brien promises to install it in six hours; Sisko tells him to make it two.

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** The subplot in "Treachery, Faith, and the Great River" starts and ends with this, seeing a harried O'Brien trying to acquire a graviton stabilizer for Sisko -- O'Brien says it would take a month to acquire, Sisko gives him three days. In enlisting Nog's help, he accidentally barters away the Captain's desk in a ludicrously-long ChainOfDeals. O'Brien's ready to face the music when, suddenly, the desk reappears along with Nog, who [[SureLetsGoWithThat has allegedly been polishing it]]. The stabilzer stabilizer is on hand, too, and a relieved O'Brien promises to install it in six hours; Sisko tells him to make it two.
5th Nov '16 6:07:39 AM JackG
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** Subverted in an early episode. When Captain Janeway tells her new chief engineer B'Elanna Torres to get a job done in less time than she estimated, B'Elanna proudly tells her that she isn't the kind of engineer who artificially inflates her estimates to make herself look good.

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** Subverted Averted in an early episode. When Captain Janeway tells her new chief engineer B'Elanna Torres to get a job done in less time than she estimated, B'Elanna proudly tells her that she isn't the kind of engineer who artificially inflates her estimates to make herself look good.
5th Nov '16 6:05:44 AM JackG
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* In the Russian movie ''Admiral'' (2008), a destroyer is vastly outgunned by a German cruiser [[ItGetsWorse when a shell knocks out their engine]]. The engineer says he can repair the damage in half an hour. The captain gives them 15 minutes as the German warship is bearing down on them. His NumberTwo says even that's too long. "In fifteen minutes they'll turn us into a sieve!"

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* In the Russian movie ''Admiral'' (2008), a destroyer is vastly outgunned by a German cruiser [[ItGetsWorse [[FromBadToWorse when a shell knocks out their engine]]. The engineer says he can repair the damage in half an hour. The captain gives them 15 minutes as the German warship is bearing down on them. His NumberTwo says even that's too long. "In fifteen minutes they'll turn us into a sieve!"
5th Nov '16 6:04:46 AM JackG
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* In the Russian movie ''Admiral'' (2008), a destroyer is vastly outgunned by a German cruiser [[ItGetsWorse when a shell knocks out their engine]]. The engineer says he can repair the damage in half an hour. The captain gives them 15 minutes as the German warship is bearing down on them. His NumberTwo says even that's too long. "In fifteen minutes they'll turn us into a sieve!"
23rd Jul '16 12:03:15 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* The clacks system needs a renovation in ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' that would cost two hundred thousand dollars (and take at least nine months). The chief engineer is offered $50,000 instead. This is another sign of the incompetence of the cutthroat board of directors, as well as Reacher Gilt's skills as a B.S. artist; he has the engineer so wound up by that point that it doesn't even occur to him that he's being given only a quarter of what he asked for. Fortunately for said engineer, he keeps a hell of a paper trail through the whole thing.

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* The clacks system needs a renovation in ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' that would cost two hundred thousand dollars (and take at least nine months). The chief engineer is offered $50,000 instead. This is another sign of the incompetence of the cutthroat board of directors, as well as Reacher Gilt's skills as a B.S. artist; he has the engineer so wound up by that point that it doesn't even occur to him that he's being given only a quarter of what he asked for. The board actually approved the full amount; Gilt pocketed the difference. Fortunately for said engineer, he keeps a hell of a paper trail through the whole thing.
10th Jun '16 1:29:49 PM FordPrefect
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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' episode "A Mirror, Darkly". Trip, who's just been tortured, is ordered to get the engine of a starship a hundred years more advanced than anything he's ever seen before working, half of which is disassembled and sitting in the hanger. When he says he can fix it in two or three days, Archer demands he does it in twelve hours. This has less to do with Tucker's competence than it does with Mirror Archer being an asshole.

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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' episode "A Mirror, Darkly". Trip, who's just been tortured, is ordered to get the engine of a starship a hundred years more advanced than anything he's ever seen before working, half of which is disassembled and sitting in the hanger.hangar. When he says he can fix it in two or three days, Archer demands he does it in twelve hours. This has less to do with Tucker's competence than it does with Mirror Archer being an asshole.
21st May '16 12:28:00 PM LentilSandEater
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** {{Lampshaded}} and then subverted in the episode "Relics" when Scotty tells Geordi that he ''always'' overstated how much time it would take to fix something because the captain would ''always'' give him less time than he said he would need.

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** {{Lampshaded}} and then subverted Becomes a DiscussedTrope in the episode "Relics" when Scotty tells Geordi that he ''always'' overstated how much time it would take to fix something because the captain would ''always'' give him less time than he said he would need.
21st May '16 12:25:38 PM LentilSandEater
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** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that the checklist for ''anything'' on a spacecraft is a several-hundred-step list of things to do from start to finish. By cutting corners and turning on ''just'' the essential pieces, you can shave a fair margin off. With the understanding that you may forget to turn on, say, the fans that keep air moving and prevent you from choking on your own carbon dioxide. Or [[OhCrap forget to power on the attitude thrusters in the LEM before you shut down the thrusters in the CSM]]... Doubly justified. Half the checklist steps in a spacecraft (or any kind of vehicle you have to run through a checklist for, including a commuter bus if your job is bus driver) consist of making sure each and every switch is set in the only way it could possibly be set already, just to make sure it really ''is''. For example, those fans that keep air moving are most likely ALREADY on, but the checklist will have you double-check that.
21st May '16 12:22:15 PM LentilSandEater
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** Similarly subverted in [[http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/1999-09-13/ this]] comic. It involves money rather than time, but it's the same principle.

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** Similarly subverted RealityEnsues in [[http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/1999-09-13/ this]] comic. It involves money rather than time, but it's the same principle.
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