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9th Mar '16 1:38:34 PM Hossmeister
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* In an episode of ''{{Black Books}}'' some American tourists refer to Bernard, (who is Irish) as a "Scotchman".

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* In an episode of ''{{Black Books}}'' ''Series/BlackBook'' some American tourists refer to Bernard, (who is Irish) as a "Scotchman".
9th Mar '16 1:35:19 PM Hossmeister
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6th Mar '16 3:22:30 PM Redmess
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The prevalence of this trope in American media is probably due to the fact that, to untrained U.S. ears, Scottish and Irish accents sound remarkably similar. This trope does not exist in Canadian media, however, as the Irish and the Scots are seen as completely distinct races. It's said that the longer an Irishman lives in Canada the more Canadian he gets, but the longer a Scotsman lives in Canada the more Scots he gets. Some Scotsmen have lived in Canada for so long that their accent has become completely indecipherable.


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The prevalence of this trope in American media is probably due to the fact that, to untrained U.S. ears, Scottish and Irish accents sound remarkably similar. This trope does not exist in Canadian media, however, as the Irish and the Scots are seen as completely distinct races.nationalities. It's said that the longer an Irishman lives in Canada the more Canadian he gets, but the longer a Scotsman lives in Canada the more Scots he gets. Some Scotsmen have lived in Canada for so long that their accent has become completely indecipherable.

27th Jan '16 9:38:30 PM MonsterDog
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** Voiced by a guy from the DC area of the United States doing a Billy Connolly (Scottish) impression.
25th Jan '16 9:46:23 PM OldBlindTrope
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Also not to be confused with the American ethnic term [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American 'Scots-Irish']], [[NonindicativeName many of whom came to America directly from England]].

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Also not Not to be confused with the American ethnic term [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American 'Scots-Irish']], [[NonindicativeName many of whom came to America directly from England]].
25th Jan '16 9:45:05 PM OldBlindTrope
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Also not to be confused with the American ethnic term [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American 'Scots-Irish']] for people who are, um, [[NonindicativeName both and neither all at once]].

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Also not to be confused with the American ethnic term [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American 'Scots-Irish']] for people who are, um, 'Scots-Irish']], [[NonindicativeName both and neither all at once]].
many of whom came to America directly from England]].
11th Jan '16 4:58:41 PM BlackJAC
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* This definitely can count as a JustifiedTrope in some cases. The Scots and Irish are both of Celtic ancestry, with quite a bit of cultural exchange between Scotland and Ireland, especially recently. At the beginning of the 20th century, Irish Republicans adopted the kilt as a sign of Celtic solidarity and identity in their struggle for independence from the UK. [[NotSoDifferent And Northern Irish Unionists occasionally display the St. Andrew's Cross]] to celebrate their Scottish heritage.

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* This definitely can count as a JustifiedTrope in some cases. The Scots and Irish are both of Celtic ancestry, with quite a bit of cultural exchange between Scotland and Ireland, especially recently. At the beginning of the 20th century, Irish Republicans adopted the kilt as a sign of Celtic solidarity and identity in their struggle for independence from the UK. [[NotSoDifferent And Northern Irish Unionists occasionally display the St. Andrew's Cross]] to celebrate their Scottish heritage. heritage, as lowland Scots were included in the settlers sent over to Ireland during the Plantation Of Ulster.
16th Dec '15 3:52:38 PM Quanyails
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* ''[[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 TF2's]]'' first issue of ''Ring of Fired!'' reveals the Demoman's full name is Tavish Finnegan [=DeGroot=]. While Tavish is definitely Scottish, Finnegan is decidedly Irish. Then again, his family name is ''Dutch''.

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* ''[[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 TF2's]]'' first issue of ''Ring of Fired!'' reveals the Scottish Demoman's full name is Tavish Finnegan [=DeGroot=]. While Tavish is definitely Scottish, Finnegan is decidedly Irish. Then again, his family name is ''Dutch''.
10th Dec '15 12:33:02 PM ironballs16
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--> ''Receptionist:''' How was Ireland?\\

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--> ''Receptionist:''' '''Receptionist:''' How was Ireland?\\
7th Dec '15 9:24:11 AM StFan
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* ''Literature/HalfMoonInvestigations'' was written by Irishman EoinColfer and set in that country. The TV adaptation was made in Scotland.
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* Wolfsbane from ''Comicbook/XMen'' is supposed to be Scottish, but her accent and culture switch back and forth between Irish and Scottish. Moira [=McTaggart=] has this same problem, to the point that her accent is often indistinguishable from that of her Irish boyfriend Banshee.

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* Wolfsbane from ''Comicbook/XMen'' ''ComicBook/XMen'' is supposed to be Scottish, but her accent and culture switch back and forth between Irish and Scottish. Moira [=McTaggart=] has this same problem, to the point that her accent is often indistinguishable from that of her Irish boyfriend Banshee.



* In ''KnightsOfTheDinnerTable'', B.A. Felton sometimes uses a character named 'Red Gurdy Pickens' in his campaigns. The character is sometimes described as being Irish, but the accent B.A. uses has been noted as sounding far closer to Scottish...

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* In ''KnightsOfTheDinnerTable'', ''ComicStrip/KnightsOfTheDinnerTable'', B.A. Felton sometimes uses a character named 'Red "Red Gurdy Pickens' Pickens" in his campaigns. The character is sometimes described as being Irish, but the accent B.A. uses has been noted as sounding far closer to Scottish...



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--> '''Jamal''': You mean Ireland?
--> '''Forrester''': Scotland, for God's sake...
--> '''Jamal''': (laughs) I'm just messing with you, man.
* In the ''GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'' movie, the Scottish villain has programmed his missile to respond to commands in "Celtic".[[note]]There are several languages belonging to the Celtic family of languages, including Irish, Scots Gaelic, Cornish, Manx and others, but no single "Celtic" tongue.[[/note]]

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--> '''Jamal''': -->'''Jamal:''' You mean Ireland?
--> '''Forrester''':
Ireland?\\
'''Forrester:'''
Scotland, for God's sake...
--> '''Jamal''': (laughs)
sake...\\
'''Jamal:''' (''laughs'')
I'm just messing with you, man.
* In the ''GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'' ''Film/GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'' movie, the Scottish villain has programmed his missile to respond to commands in "Celtic".[[note]]There "Celtic". There are several languages belonging to the Celtic family of languages, including Irish, Scots Gaelic, Cornish, Manx and others, but no single "Celtic" tongue.[[/note]]



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* ''Literature/HalfMoonInvestigations'' was written by Irishman Creator/EoinColfer and set in that country. The TV adaptation was made in Scotland.



* Countless [[FakeIrish "Irish"]] punk bands use Scottish tunes or pipes in their music, or intersperse a traditional Scottish song with Irish Gaelic.
** The DropkickMurphys does this in the video for their song "Spicy [=McHaggis=]."

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* Countless [[FakeIrish "Irish"]] punk bands use Scottish tunes or pipes in their music, or intersperse a traditional Scottish song with Irish Gaelic.
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Gaelic. The DropkickMurphys Music/DropkickMurphys does this in the video for their song "Spicy [=McHaggis=]."



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* [[WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}} Diabetus and slowbeef]] have no idea whether the person doing a LetsPlay of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil4'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCRCJRCH8VE here]] is Scottish or Irish, so they split the difference.
-->'''Diabetus:''' Y'know he's probably from New Jersey.
* In the [[WeeblAndBob Weebl's Stuff]] video [[http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Scotch+Egg/ Scotch Egg]], when a map of Scotland is displayed, underneath the text saying "SCOTLAND", there is a caption in small text reading "This is where the Irish come from. Tell your friends."
* This video directly references the trope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-jcQjZJ7c

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* [[WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}} Diabetus and slowbeef]] have no idea whether A bit of commentary in ''WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2009'' has something to this effect - Coach refers to the person doing a LetsPlay of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil4'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCRCJRCH8VE here]] is Scottish or Irish, so they split the difference.
-->'''Diabetus:''' Y'know he's probably from New Jersey.
* In the [[WeeblAndBob Weebl's Stuff]] video [[http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Scotch+Egg/ Scotch Egg]], when a map of Scotland is displayed, underneath the text saying "SCOTLAND", there is a caption in small text reading "This is where the
oh-so-very Irish come from. Tell your friends."
* This video directly references
Finlay as English. When called on it by way of Michael Cole listing all of the trope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-jcQjZJ7cextremely Irish things about him, Coach indicates that he knows the difference between English and ''Scottish''.



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* A bit of commentary in ''WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2009'' has something to this effect - Coach refers to the oh-so-very Irish Finlay as English. When called on it by way of Michael Cole listing all of the extremely Irish things about him, Coach indicates that he knows the difference between English and ''Scottish''.
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* In the [[WebAnimation/WeeblAndBob Weebl's Stuff]] video ''[[http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Scotch+Egg/ Scotch Egg]]'', when a map of Scotland is displayed, underneath the text saying "SCOTLAND", there is a caption in small text reading "This is where the Irish come from. Tell your friends."



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* [[WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}} Diabetus and slowbeef]] have no idea whether the person doing a LetsPlay of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil4'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCRCJRCH8VE here]] is Scottish or Irish, so they split the difference.
-->'''Diabetus:''' Y'know he's probably from New Jersey.
%%* This video directly references the trope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-jcQjZJ7c
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* Coach [[TheDanza John]] [[WesternAnimation/HomeMovies McGuirk]] is Irish, but he's a Scottish highland dancer instead of an Irish dancer because he's "not gay."

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* ''WesternAnimation/HomeMovies'': Coach [[TheDanza John]] [[WesternAnimation/HomeMovies McGuirk]] [=McGuirk=] is Irish, but he's a Scottish highland dancer instead of an Irish dancer because he's "not gay."gay".



--> '''Receptionist''': How was Ireland?
--> '''Office manager''': Actually, I was in Scotland.
--> '''Receptionist''': That's not the same place?
* In a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGhDp8wYH-A&feature=player_embedded#at=188 2010 interview for Irish television]] KatyPerry seemed under the impression the Loch Ness Monster lives in Ireland. Perhaps they confused a ''[[HellishHorse each]]'' ''[[TheFairFolk uisge]]'' with a ''[[{{OurDragonsAreDifferent}} peist]]''.

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--> '''Receptionist''': ''Receptionist:''' How was Ireland?
-->
Ireland?\\
'''Office manager''': manager:''' Actually, I was in Scotland.
--> '''Receptionist''':
Scotland.\\
'''Receptionist:'''
That's not the same place?
* In a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGhDp8wYH-A&feature=player_embedded#at=188 2010 interview for Irish television]] KatyPerry television]], Music/KatyPerry seemed under the impression the Loch Ness Monster lives in Ireland. Perhaps they confused a ''[[HellishHorse each]]'' ''[[TheFairFolk uisge]]'' with a ''[[{{OurDragonsAreDifferent}} peist]]''.
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