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28th Apr '18 8:50:25 PM HawkbitAlpha
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Mad science isn't just about cool gadgets or revenge; it's a ''[[ChronicVillainy compulsion]]''. The MadScientist really ''is'' insane, with an actual psychological disorder that causes both brilliance and madness.

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Mad science isn't just about cool gadgets or revenge; it's a ''[[ChronicVillainy compulsion]]''. The MadScientist really ''is'' insane, with an actual psychological disorder that [[CrazyAwesome causes both brilliance and madness.
madness.]]
2nd Apr '18 8:29:42 AM Howler
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** In ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', the Sons of Ether were basically MadScientist technomancers, with a penchant for Victorian SteamPunk or [[RaygunGothic 1950s rayguns and giant robots]]. There was a thin line between maniacal Sons of Ether and Marauders (Awakened who have gone insane and warp reality all around them). Certainly a Technocrat who went Marauder would be a textbook example of a futuristic Mad Gadgeteer. In fact, the Technocracy called awakened mages and other supernaturals "reality deviants". Come to think of it, in ''Mage: The Ascension'', paradigm dissonance ''is'' a form of insanity, if you define insanity as experiencing things differently from what the majority experiences. For the Awakened, if their avatar warps reality, then their hallucinations can turn real.

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** In ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', the Sons of Ether were basically MadScientist technomancers, with a penchant for Victorian SteamPunk or [[RaygunGothic 1950s rayguns and giant robots]]. There was a thin line between maniacal Sons of Ether and Marauders (Awakened who have gone insane and warp reality all around them). Certainly a Technocrat who went Marauder would be a textbook example of a futuristic Mad Gadgeteer. In fact, the Technocracy called awakened mages and other supernaturals "reality deviants". Come to think of it, in ''Mage: The Ascension'', paradigm dissonance ''is'' considered a form of insanity, if you define insanity as experiencing things differently from what the majority (The Consensus) experiences. For the Awakened, if their avatar warps reality, then their hallucinations "hallucinations" can turn real.become a new (subtle) piece of reality.



* Attention Deficit Disorder is a disruption of dopamine and ephedrine distribution within the brain which causes some areas to be flooded constantly with the chemicals, while others receive relatively little, similar to the effect that cocaine has on the brain. As dopamine can be loosely described as the "like button" neurochemical, while ephedrine is the "alertness" chemical, this causes the brain to follow somewhat random patterns regarding what is [[AttentionDeficitOhShiny perceived as important at the moment]], and [[SensoryOverload inhibits the ability to filter both mental and external noise]].[[note]]Contrary to popular belief, individuals with ADD/ADHD are not oblivious to what is going on around them. Its just that their brain flags the oven being on fire with the same level of importance as trying to remember where they put the remote, a stray thought about that lame joke they heard earlier, and the fact that they could ''really'' go for a grilled cheese sandwich right now. [[ExplainExplainOhCrap Wait. Grilled cheese sandwich. Oven. Smoke Alarm.]] OhCrap.[[/note]] This typically manifests as a constant state of extreme curiosity for subjects considered "interesting", impulsive behavior and thoughts with little inhibition, bursts of extreme inspiration and creativity, and elevated excitability. ADHD is generally treated with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomoxetine epinephrine reuptake inhibitors]] and dopamine reuptake inhibitors like stimulants, which even out the distribution somewhat. Thus medication makes cognition less chaotic, which can be frustrating for those who enjoy the buzz of constant..."colorful"...thoughts.

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* Attention Deficit Disorder is a disruption of dopamine and ephedrine distribution within the brain which causes some areas to be flooded constantly with the chemicals, while others receive relatively little, similar to the effect that cocaine has on the brain. As dopamine can be loosely described as the "like button" neurochemical, while ephedrine is the "alertness" chemical, this causes the brain to follow somewhat random patterns regarding what is [[AttentionDeficitOhShiny perceived as important at the moment]], and [[SensoryOverload inhibits the ability to filter both mental and external noise]].[[note]]Contrary to popular belief, individuals with ADD/ADHD are not oblivious to what is going on around them. Its just that their brain flags the oven being on fire with the same level of importance as trying to remember where they put the remote, a stray thought about that lame joke they heard earlier, and the fact that they could ''really'' go for a grilled cheese sandwich right now. [[ExplainExplainOhCrap Wait. Grilled cheese sandwich. Oven. Smoke Alarm.]] OhCrap.[[/note]] This typically manifests as a constant state fluctuating focus of extreme curiosity for over subjects considered "interesting", impulsive behavior and thoughts with little inhibition, bursts of extreme inspiration and creativity, and elevated excitability. ADHD is generally treated with [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomoxetine epinephrine org/wiki/Attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder_management stimulant medications]] newer non-stimulant medicines, or serotonin-norpinepherine reuptake inhibitors]] and dopamine reuptake inhibitors like stimulants, which even out the distribution somewhat. Thus inhibitors, depending on comorbid conditions. This medication makes cognition less chaotic, which can be frustrating for those who enjoy the buzz of constant..."colorful"...thoughts.thoughts of a manic or hypomanic state.
29th Mar '18 6:08:43 AM Schol-R-LEA
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nelson Theodor Holm Nelson]], the erratic computer visionary who is sometimes called the Father of Hypertext, refers to his severe ADHD as 'butterfly mind', and has often expressed dismay at how the medicines which help keep him focused also tend to dull his innovation. He has at time gone with NoMedicationForMe only to go back on them when things start spiraling out of control. His life's work, a massive hypertext system call Xanadu, was meant in large part as a coping mechanism for this.

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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nelson Theodor Holm Nelson]], the erratic computer visionary who is sometimes called the Father of Hypertext, refers to his severe ADHD as 'butterfly mind', and has often expressed dismay at how the medicines which help keep him focused also tend to dull his innovation. He has at time gone with NoMedicationForMe only to go back on them when things start spiraling out of control. His life's work, a massive hypertext system call Xanadu, was meant in large part as a coping mechanism for this.this - a way to keep track of all the unruly thoughts that come and go, and e able to go back to them later and make sense out of them.
29th Mar '18 6:07:21 AM Schol-R-LEA
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nelson Theodor Holm Nelson]], the erratic computer visionary who is sometimes called the Father of Hypertext, refers to his severe ADHD as 'butterfly mind', and has often expressed dismay at how the medicines which help keep him focused also tend to dull his innovation. He has at time gone with NoMedicationForMe only to go back on them when things start spiraling out of control. His life's work, a massive hypertext system call Xanadu, was meant in large part as a coping mechanism for this.
27th Mar '18 4:09:48 PM Smeagol17
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In some series, this leads to a storyline in which one or more of the Mad Scientists (or perhaps some saner allies) seek out [[PsychoSerum a cure]] for their condition. Invariably, however, the cure comes at a cost, usually the loss of their terrible, manic genius, or else their energy and drive across the board. In other series, there may ''already'' exist a treatment for it, but someone forgets ([[NoMedicationForMe or "forgets"]]) to take it one day...

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In some series, this leads to a storyline in which one or more of the Mad Scientists (or perhaps some saner allies) seek out [[PsychoSerum [[FindTheCure a cure]] for their condition. Invariably, however, the cure comes at a cost, usually the loss of their terrible, manic genius, or else their energy and drive across the board. In other series, there may ''already'' exist a treatment for it, but someone forgets ([[NoMedicationForMe or "forgets"]]) to take it one day...
22nd Feb '18 1:06:32 PM Chubzhac
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* Website/SFDebris, a former teacher and someone who has worked with the mentally disabled, has remarked that he dislikes this trope as it undermines the achievements of mentally disabled people by suggesting that their disorders the source of their brilliance, rather than them being smart, hard working people living with a condition that actually hinders their ability to succeed in life.
15th Nov '17 10:05:31 PM Discar
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-->--'''Joel Robinson''', ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', ''Film/TheMadMonster''

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-->--'''Joel -->-- '''Joel Robinson''', ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', ''Film/TheMadMonster''
15th Nov '17 12:03:50 PM isolato
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* Paul Erdős, a mathematician known for publishing more papers than any other mathematician to date and collaborating with damn near everyone in the field (to the point that the mathematicians' equivalent of the Bacon Number is the Erdős Number), took amphetamines. He was offered a sum of money by a friend to give up the habit for a month. He did, took the money, then went right back on amphetamines, claiming his sobriety impeded his ability to think.

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* Paul Erdős, a mathematician known for publishing more papers than any other mathematician to date and collaborating with damn near everyone in the field (to the point that the mathematicians' equivalent of the [[SixDegreesOfKevinBacon Bacon Number Number]] is the Erdős Number), took amphetamines. He was offered a sum of money by a friend to give up the habit for a month. He did, took the money, then went right back on amphetamines, claiming his sobriety impeded his ability to think.
19th Oct '17 11:27:10 PM PaulA
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* In one of Creator/LarryNiven's ''Literature/KnownSpace'' short stories, appropriately titled "Madness Has its Place," it's revealed that [=ARM=] (the technology-suppressing SecretPolice branch of the UN) deliberately employs sociopaths and paranoid schizophrenics, though they're issued mandatory medication. The main character is one (he's implied to be a former serial killer), but in order to help prepare a defense against the approaching Kzinti aliens, he goes off his medication. His descent into paranoia and sociopathy make him frighteningly competent at war preparations for a humanity that hasn't known war in centuries. The [=ARM=] also creates treatments to ''artificially'' induce paranoid schizophrenia and other disorders in its agents, in case enough naturally occurring crazies of the right sort are unavailable.

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* In one of Creator/LarryNiven's ''Literature/KnownSpace'' short stories, appropriately titled "Madness Has its Place," "Literature/MadnessHasItsPlace", it's revealed that [=ARM=] (the technology-suppressing SecretPolice branch of the UN) deliberately employs sociopaths and paranoid schizophrenics, though they're issued mandatory medication. The main character is one (he's implied to be a former serial killer), but in order to help prepare a defense against the approaching Kzinti aliens, he goes off his medication. His descent into paranoia and sociopathy make him frighteningly competent at war preparations for a humanity that hasn't known war in centuries. The [=ARM=] also creates treatments to ''artificially'' induce paranoid schizophrenia and other disorders in its agents, in case enough naturally occurring crazies of the right sort are unavailable.
3rd Aug '17 10:28:40 PM Rikmach
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* In ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression'', becoming a Genius warps you into something ''not quite human''. On the one hand, [[TouchedByVorlons Inspiration]] grants the ability to "delicately bend" the laws of physics, with higher levels of Inspiration naturally granting greater power. On the other hand, a more Inspired Genius will likely find it harder and harder to maintain his [[KarmaMeter Obligation]] and, if they [[MoralEventHorizon snap]], they can become an [[RealityWarper Unmada]], or worse, one of the Illuminated, at which point [[OmnicidalManiac everyone and everything]] [[ForScience starts to look like a]] [[HumanResources resource]]. Inspiration also seems to be contagious; [[{{Muggles}} Mortals]] exposed to mad science have a likelihood of becoming [[TheIgor Beholden]], if not a Genius in their own right.

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* In ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression'', becoming a Genius warps you into something ''not quite human''. On the one hand, [[TouchedByVorlons Inspiration]] grants the ability to "delicately bend" the laws of physics, with higher levels of Inspiration naturally granting greater power. On the other hand, a more Inspired Genius will likely find it harder and harder to maintain his [[KarmaMeter Obligation]] and, if they [[MoralEventHorizon snap]], they can become an [[RealityWarper Unmada]], Unmada]] where one believes their mad science is true and everyone else is crazy, or worse, one of the Illuminated, at which point [[OmnicidalManiac everyone and everything]] [[ForScience starts to look like a]] [[HumanResources resource]]. Inspiration also seems to be contagious; [[{{Muggles}} Mortals]] exposed to mad science have a likelihood of becoming [[TheIgor Beholden]], if not a Genius in their own right.
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