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23rd Mar '17 7:08:08 PM MarqFJA
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** There was a wave of ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' fanart depicting Sailor Pluto being angry at the reclassification, or dismissed from the Sailor Senshi because of it.

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** There was a wave of ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' fanart depicting Sailor Pluto being angry at the reclassification, reclassification (sometimes to the point of attempting to "persuade" the involved astronomers to change their stance, with variable results depending on the story), or even dismissed from the Sailor Senshi because of it.it. Sometimes, however, she's merely sardonic about the decision and the logic behind it, and may express complete indifference to the matter for one reason or the other (almost always partly because it has no actual effect on her powers).
22nd Mar '17 3:51:54 AM rodneyAnonymous
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* ''Series/{{Space 1999}}'' is a particular example that, at the time of its release, didn't seem ridiculously far-fetched, at least in terms of there being such a thing as a Moonbase (and just the one, at that). Although the implied scale of nuclear power use on Earth (from the huge quantity of high-level waste shipped all the way to the Moon for long-term storage) is rather far-fetched.

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* ''Series/{{Space 1999}}'' is a particular example that, at the time of its release, didn't seem ridiculously far-fetched, at least in terms of there being such a thing as a Moonbase (and just the one, at that). Although the implied scale of nuclear power use on Earth (from the huge quantity of high-level waste shipped all the way to the Moon for long-term storage) is rather far-fetched.



** Interestingly, Nicholson Hall at Louisiana State University (home of the school's astronomy department and the Landolt Astronomical Observatory) has a stucco medallion above the south east entrance which [[http://www.phys.lsu.edu/newwebsite/images/sculpture.jpg depicts the eight "official" planets and their symbols]]. The building was built in 1937, seven years after Pluto's discovery, but while it was still languishing in categorical limbo. Luckily, the dwarf planet's reclassification in 2006 rendered the contemplation of changing the mural moot (although unfortunately, renovations have made that particular entrance rather inconvenient and unnoticed).

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** Interestingly, Nicholson Hall at Louisiana State University (home of the school's astronomy department and the Landolt Astronomical Observatory) has a stucco medallion above the south east entrance which [[http://www.phys.lsu.edu/newwebsite/images/sculpture.jpg depicts the eight "official" planets and their symbols]]. The building was built in 1937, seven years after Pluto's discovery, but while it was still languishing in categorical limbo. Luckily, the dwarf planet's reclassification in 2006 rendered the contemplation of changing the mural moot (although unfortunately, renovations have made that particular entrance rather inconvenient and unnoticed).



* ''Anime/GunBuster'' (written in 1988) featured an expanded solar system with several more (very large) planets beyond Pluto's orbit (Lucifer, Metis, Kaminatsuki, Jupiter II) and a counter-star to the Sun, called "Nemesis". Modern astronomers have rather conspicuously failed to find any more non-dwarf planets beyond Pluto, and certainly not a counter-sun.

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* ''Anime/GunBuster'' (written in 1988) featured an expanded solar system with several more (very large) planets beyond Pluto's orbit (Lucifer, Metis, Kaminatsuki, Jupiter II) and a counter-star to the Sun, called "Nemesis". Modern astronomers have rather conspicuously failed to find any more non-dwarf planets beyond Pluto, and certainly not a counter-sun.



** The first time it was asked, regular contestant Alan Davies answers (rather resigned, knowing such an easy question can only be a setup) "One" and gets flashing lights, klaxons, and Creator/StephenFry with "Sorry, that is incorrect. The correct answer, of course, is ''2''": Luna and Cruithne (an asteroid that had been temporarily captured by Earth's gravity at the time). Note that no scientist had ever considered Cruithne to be a moon, since it was not permanently locked in orbit; the show was deliberately using an extremely loose definition of "moon" to mess with the contestants.

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** The first time it was asked, regular contestant Alan Davies answers (rather resigned, (resigned, knowing such an easy question can only be a setup) "One" and gets flashing lights, klaxons, and Creator/StephenFry with "Sorry, that is incorrect. The correct answer, of course, is ''2''": Luna and Cruithne (an asteroid that had been temporarily captured by Earth's gravity at the time). Note that no scientist had ever considered Cruithne to be a moon, since it was not permanently locked in orbit; the show was deliberately using an extremely loose definition of "moon" to mess with the contestants.



** The same question came up in Series L, with the answer being "Earth has no moon". The reasoning is that the IAU definition of a "planet" includes the requirement that it must have sufficient mass to have cleared its solar orbit of other objects (this is the requirement that Pluto fails). While the Earth's orbit has been cleared, Earth did not manage this on its own: the Moon's mass naturally contributed as well. Therefore, under a rather stretched interpretation of the IAU planetary definition, the Moon is ''itself'' a planet, and is in a binary orbit with the Earth. Naturally the contestant called BS on that idea.

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** The same question came up in Series L, with the answer being "Earth has no moon". The reasoning is that the IAU definition of a "planet" includes the requirement that it must have sufficient mass to have cleared its solar orbit of other objects (this is the requirement that Pluto fails). While the Earth's orbit has been cleared, Earth did not manage this on its own: the Moon's mass naturally contributed as well. Therefore, under a rather stretched interpretation of the IAU planetary definition, the Moon is ''itself'' a planet, and is in a binary orbit with the Earth. Naturally the contestant called BS on that idea.



* In both the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' episodes "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E4TheNakedTime The Naked Time]]" and "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E2TheNakedNow The Naked Now]]", both episodes' versions of the ''Enterprise'' comes under the influence of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywater polywater]], a syrup-like form of water created from massive compression of normal water that has a lower freezing temperature (which allowed it to stay fluid despite the environmental controls on the space stations the substance was on being set to ''freeze everyone onboard to death'') and the ability to convert any other water it touches into more of itself (leading to the "drunken" states of anyone "infected" with it). Thing is, while polywater was debated as a viable substance in the 1960s (when "The Naked Time" was made), by time "The Naked Now" was shot, it has since been proven to be bogus (forcing a rather awkward change of the term used to describe the substance from a water to a ''virus'').

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* In both the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' episodes "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E4TheNakedTime The Naked Time]]" and "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E2TheNakedNow The Naked Now]]", both episodes' versions of the ''Enterprise'' comes under the influence of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywater polywater]], a syrup-like form of water created from massive compression of normal water that has a lower freezing temperature (which allowed it to stay fluid despite the environmental controls on the space stations the substance was on being set to ''freeze everyone onboard to death'') and the ability to convert any other water it touches into more of itself (leading to the "drunken" states of anyone "infected" with it). Thing is, while polywater was debated as a viable substance in the 1960s (when "The Naked Time" was made), by time "The Naked Now" was shot, it has since been proven to be bogus (forcing a rather an awkward change of the term used to describe the substance from a water to a ''virus'').



* ''Literature/TheDraculaTape'', Creator/FredSaberhagen's snarky PerspectiveFlip of Bram Stoker's ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade]] on the fact that Lucy Westenra receives blood transfusions from four different people. The initial scientific discovery of blood type groups came four years after the original novel was published, so Saberhagen's Count—as something of an expert on matters of blood by necessity—turns her into a vampire only to save her from immediate death brought on by the inevitable complications, of which van Helsing's companions, if not necessarily the doctor himself, were blissfully unaware. (It's actually implied that van Helsing, a rather less heroic figure in the retelling, may have inadvertently killed other patients in this fashion before.)

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* ''Literature/TheDraculaTape'', Creator/FredSaberhagen's snarky PerspectiveFlip of Bram Stoker's ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', [[LampshadeHanging hangs a lampshade]] on the fact that Lucy Westenra receives blood transfusions from four different people. The initial scientific discovery of blood type groups came four years after the original novel was published, so Saberhagen's Count—as something of an expert on matters of blood by necessity—turns her into a vampire only to save her from immediate death brought on by the inevitable complications, of which van Helsing's companions, if not necessarily the doctor himself, were blissfully unaware. (It's actually implied that van Helsing, a rather less heroic figure in the retelling, may have inadvertently killed other patients in this fashion before.)



** Eugenics is the concept of trying to encourage breeding to develop desirable traits, the concept of race was never a mandatory on intrensic aspect of eugenics. What was found is that while the *concept* of eugenics is still theoretically possible, in practice it's almost always gets tied to race or some other arbitrary concept of what constitutes a 'desirable' trait; and often gets implemented in rather horrible ways. The science has not undergone any significant changes though. In short this is more of a case of SocietyMarchesOn, specifically society not trusting anyone to define what constitutes a positive trait to strive for, or to implement it in a way that doesn't become a human rights disaster.

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** Eugenics is the concept of trying to encourage breeding to develop desirable traits, the concept of race was never a mandatory on intrensic aspect of eugenics. What was found is that while the *concept* of eugenics is still theoretically possible, in practice it's almost always gets tied to race or some other arbitrary concept of what constitutes a 'desirable' trait; and often gets implemented in rather horrible ways. The science has not undergone any significant changes though. In short this is more of a case of SocietyMarchesOn, specifically society not trusting anyone to define what constitutes a positive trait to strive for, or to implement it in a way that doesn't become a human rights disaster.
8th Feb '17 7:26:16 AM DaibhidC
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* Just about every ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'' strip involving lions has some reference to the idea that only lionesses hunt (Edgar and Frank are presented as highly unusual exceptions, and Edgar at least is ostracised by lion society as a result). In 2013, it was discovered that [[http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/male-lions-do-help-hunting-after-all-f6C10149668 male lions do hunt, but differently]].

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* Just about every ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'' strip involving lions has some reference to the idea that only lionesses hunt (Edgar and Frank are presented as highly unusual exceptions, and Edgar at least is ostracised by lion society as a result).result - plus he's incompetent). In 2013, it was discovered that [[http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/male-lions-do-help-hunting-after-all-f6C10149668 male lions do hunt, but differently]].
8th Feb '17 7:25:52 AM DaibhidC
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* Just about every ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'' strip involving lions has some reference to the idea that only lionesses hunt (Edgar and Frank are presented as highly unusual exceptions, and Edgar at least is ostracised by lion society as a result). In 2013, it was discovered that [[http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/male-lions-do-help-hunting-after-all-f6C10149668 male lions do hunt, but differently]].
26th Jan '17 11:11:50 PM PaulA
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* On a similar note, the heroes of Asimov's ''[[Literature/{{Foundation}} Foundation and Earth]]'' track down EarthThatWas using fragmentary references, including a clue that one of its neighboring planets had three broad rings. While three of Saturn's rings are larger than the others, there are at least seven.

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* On a similar note, the The heroes of Asimov's ''[[Literature/{{Foundation}} Foundation and Earth]]'' Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/FoundationAndEarth'' track down EarthThatWas using fragmentary references, including a clue that one of its neighboring planets had three broad rings. While three of Saturn's rings are larger than the others, there are at least seven.
24th Jan '17 6:00:55 PM Sabrewing
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* ''VideoGame/EndlessOcean'' and its sequel contain specimens of goblin sharks in deep-sea regions. Realistic enough. However, their jaws are depicted as permanently protruding, an out-of-date assumption as we have learned more about goblin shark physiology.
18th Jan '17 9:10:32 PM valos
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** Along with bloodletting, trepanning is among one of the oldest procedures developed, to the point where prehistoric human remains have been found showing evidence of undergoing (and recovering from) this procedure. Whereas the conditions that bloodletting WOULD be effective at treating likely weren't understood, head wounds are a much easier concept for ancient people to [[IncrediblyLamePun wrap their heads around]], and thus may have been used for medical purposes, in addition to speculated ritualistic reasons possibly explaining prehistoric examples of skulls with holes in them (and evidence of bone healing indicating survival).
15th Jan '17 8:20:42 PM MsChibi
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* The concept of [[HystericalWoman "hysteria,"]] which was that the uterus would (somehow) escape from its normal place in the lower abdomen and pummel other organs, like a pinball game, causing all sorts of physical and mental problems. This alleged problem stemmed from (depending on whom you asked) the patient either not having enough sex (or not having enough ''good'' sex), or having too much of it, or not conforming to traditional ideas of femininity...and thus legitimate (sometimes life-threatening) diseases were dismissed as "hysteria," or "it's all in her head." Thankfully, "hysteria" is no longer a valid medical or psychiatric diagnosis.
11th Jan '17 7:28:43 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''LordPeterWimsey'' story "The Image in the Mirror," a left/right inverted man is experiencing mysterious circumstances. Finding that the man is inverted, Wimsey infers that he must have a opposite (an Evil Opposite) twin who is causing all the mystery and cites experiments with salamander eggs tied off with threads. The experiments were real and important in understanding how the left/right gradient is formed. However, while left/right inverted twins do exist they are vanishingly rare. Most twins are not left/right inverts and most left/right inverts are not twins.

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* In the ''LordPeterWimsey'' ''Literature/LordPeterWimsey'' story "The Image in the Mirror," a left/right inverted man is experiencing mysterious circumstances. Finding that the man is inverted, Wimsey infers that he must have a opposite (an Evil Opposite) twin who is causing all the mystery and cites experiments with salamander eggs tied off with threads. The experiments were real and important in understanding how the left/right gradient is formed. However, while left/right inverted twins do exist they are vanishingly rare. Most twins are not left/right inverts and most left/right inverts are not twins.
8th Jan '17 5:30:42 AM tkzv
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** The idea still pops up every now and then (one of the entries above mentions a 2008 novel, the early 90s Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes series establishes that there used to be another planet rather than an asteroid belt there, and so on). If nothing else, some of the examples can be handwaved as the event that caused the shift from planet to asteroids being far more destructive to the planet then merely blowing it apart in macro-scale chunks.

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** The idea still pops up every now and then (one of the entries above mentions a 2008 novel, the early 90s Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes series establishes that there the asteroid belt used to be another planet rather than an asteroid belt there, planet, albeit small and airless, and so on). If nothing else, some of the examples can be handwaved as the event that caused the shift from planet to asteroids being far more destructive to the planet then merely blowing it apart in macro-scale chunks.
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