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8th Feb '17 7:36:01 PM erforce
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* In ''RockyIV'' the cold, emotionless Russian boxer Ivan Drago is shown training in a cartoonishly high-tech facility that measures his every exertion while government technicians look on, meanwhile virtuous American Rocky trains on a farm by cutting down trees, lifting bales of hay, and running with a yoke on his shoulders. Guess who wins.

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* In ''RockyIV'' ''Film/RockyIV'' the cold, emotionless Russian boxer Ivan Drago is shown training in a cartoonishly high-tech facility that measures his every exertion while government technicians look on, meanwhile virtuous American Rocky trains on a farm by cutting down trees, lifting bales of hay, and running with a yoke on his shoulders. Guess who wins.
21st Jan '17 8:31:42 AM Psyclone
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* [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Reed Richards and Doctor Doom]] can be viewed as symbolizing technology's potential for good or evil, depending on who is wielding it and for what purpose. Reed's a perfect example, as he's often portrayed as the most cold and calculating of the ComicBook/FantasticFour. For instance, during the [[Comicbook/CivilWar superhero civil war]], he designed an extradimensional prison camp to hold his fellow superheroes because cold logic told him that forced superhuman registration was the only way to avoid an Armageddon-level disaster. None of the less scientifically-minded members of the team could stand to be a part of it, and Sue - the conscience of the team - eventually convinced him that it was better to essentially be nice and hope for the best than to be mean for a good reason. Taken even further in Comicbook/UltimateMarvel, where [[spoiler:Reed has a full fledged FaceHeelTurn and becomes the de facto Ultimate version of Kang the Conqueror]].

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* [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Reed Richards and Doctor Doom]] can be viewed as symbolizing technology's potential for good or evil, depending on who is wielding it and for what purpose. Reed's a perfect example, as he's often portrayed as the most cold and calculating of the ComicBook/FantasticFour. For instance, during the [[Comicbook/CivilWar superhero civil war]], he designed an extradimensional prison camp to hold his fellow superheroes because cold logic told him that forced superhuman registration was the only way to avoid an Armageddon-level disaster. None of the less scientifically-minded members of the team could stand to be a part of it, and Sue - the conscience of the team - eventually convinced him that it was better to essentially be nice and hope for the best than to be mean for a good reason. Taken even further in Comicbook/UltimateMarvel, where [[spoiler:Reed has a full fledged FaceHeelTurn and de facto becomes the de facto new Ultimate version of Kang the Conqueror]].Doctor Doom.]].
2nd Jan '17 5:37:12 PM nombretomado
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* ''Roleplay/InkCity'' has attracted plenty of scientists, including [[WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes Heloise]], [[ElTigre Dr. Chipotle Jr.]], WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}, GLaDOS and [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} Caroline]]. There are also characters who want to use science to analyze and control the unpredictable residents, like [[WesternAnimation/AeonFlux Trevor]].

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* ''Roleplay/InkCity'' has attracted plenty of scientists, including [[WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes Heloise]], [[ElTigre Dr. Chipotle Jr.]], WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}, GLaDOS [=GLaDOS=] and [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} Caroline]]. There are also characters who want to use science to analyze and control the unpredictable residents, like [[WesternAnimation/AeonFlux Trevor]].
3rd Dec '16 10:02:12 PM JamesShade
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* Played first at straight, but later averted in Sepultura's ''Biotech Is Godzilla''.

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* Played first at straight, but later averted Ultimately subverted in Sepultura's ''Biotech Is Godzilla''.
4th Nov '16 5:05:24 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Jonathan Swift rams this Trope down the reader's throat in the Laputa chapter of ''Literature/GulliversTravels''. The rulers are tyrants (and chauvinists) who respect only science, but it has made them incompetent rulers; while they are fond of mathematics, astronomy, music and technology, they fail to make practical use of their knowledge. For instance, buildings in Laputa are poorly built and the clothing doesn't fit because they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures. Their physical conditions have degenerated too, depicted as becoming so lost in thought that they do not move unless struck by a "bladder", many of their heads have become stuck reclined to one side, and they often suffer from strabismus: one eye turns inward and the other looks up "to the zenith". They don't even know that their wives are adulterers who are using their lack of attention to carry on affairs with the more loving servants. Even worse, they've had a negative effect on their subjects. Not only are Lagado and Balnibarbi poverty-stricken, the governor of the former visited Laputa once, and was inspired to build the Academy of Projectors, where completely worthless projects are endlessly worked on. (Ironically, the governor of Balnibarbi is likely the most lucid man in the chapter.) of course, Swift was using this chapter to mock - among other things - the absurd inventions of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society the Royal Society]].


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* Jonathan Swift rams this Trope down the reader's throat in the Laputa chapter of ''Literature/GulliversTravels''. The rulers are tyrants (and [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain chauvinists]]) who respect only science, but it has made them [[TheCaligula incompetent rulers]]; while they are fond of mathematics, astronomy, music and technology, they fail to make practical use of their knowledge. For instance, buildings in Laputa are poorly built and the clothing doesn't fit because they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures. Their [[EvilMakesYouUgly physical conditions have degenerated too]], depicted as becoming so lost in thought that they do not move unless struck by a "bladder", many of their heads have become stuck reclined to one side, and they often suffer from strabismus: one eye turns inward and the other looks up "to the zenith". They don't even know that their wives [[YourCheatingHeart are adulterers]] who are using their husbands' lack of attention to carry on affairs with the more loving servants. Even worse, they've had a negative effect on their subjects. Not only are Lagado and Balnibarbi poverty-stricken, the governor of the former visited Laputa once, and was inspired to build the Academy of Projectors, where completely worthless projects are endlessly worked on. (Ironically, [[OnlySaneMan the governor of Balnibarbi]] is likely the most lucid man in the chapter, one of the few characters Gulliver meets with any common sense.) of course, Swift was using this chapter to mock - [[{{Satire}}among other things]] - the absurd inventions of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society the Royal Society]].
2nd Nov '16 6:22:40 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Jonathan Swift rams this Trope down the reader's throat in the Laputa chapter of ''Literature/GulliversTravels''. The rulers are tyrants (and chauvinists) who respect only science, but it has made them incompetent rulers; while they are fond of mathematics, astronomy, music and technology, they fail to make practical use of their knowledge. For instance, buildings in Laputa are poorly built and the clothing doesn't fit because they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures. Their physical conditions have degenerated too, depicted as becoming so lost in thought that they do not move unless struck by a "bladder", many of their heads have become stuck reclined to one side, and they often suffer from strabismus: one eye turns inward and the other looks up "to the zenith". They don't even know that their wives are adulterers who are using their lack of attention to carry on affairs with the more loving servants. Even worse, they've had a negative effect on their subjects. Not only are Lagado and Balnibarbi poverty-stricken, the governor of the former visited Laputa once, and was inspired to build the Academy of Projectors, where completely worthless projects are endlessly worked on. (Ironically, the governor of Balnibarbi is likely the most lucid man in the chapter.) of course, Swift was using this chapter to mock - among other things - the absurd inventions of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society the Royal Society]].
9th Oct '16 2:49:25 AM rin14100
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** ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' features Spirex machines. These devices such the Mana from the world: which causes Spirits to die out/enter a state of fossilised hibernation (the game is a little unclear how it works). [[spoiler:As it happens, there's an entire ''world'' that uses the Spirex machines - and it's close to reaching its end because the devices have all but consumed nature entirely.]] By contrast, the Spirit Artes of Liese Maxia are consistently shown as a good, natural power and [[spoiler:it's only by literally imitating them that the other world manages to restore some amount of balance.]]

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** The BigBad of ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'' was once a [[ArtificialHuman humanoid]] who became a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds [[spoiler:when the only scientist to treat him with love was secretly trying to turn him into Fodra's new Lastalia was killed by another scientist and her humanoids because her and her superiors saw Lambda as a threat because anything injected with his cells would become a monster.]]
** ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' features Spirex Spyrix machines. These devices such the Mana from the world: which causes Spirits to die out/enter a state of fossilised hibernation (the game is a little unclear how it works). die. [[spoiler:As it happens, there's an entire ''world'' that uses the Spirex Spyrix machines - and it's close to reaching its end because the devices have all but consumed nature entirely.]] By contrast, the Spirit Artes of Liese Rieze Maxia are consistently shown as a good, natural power and [[spoiler:it's only by literally imitating them that the other world manages to restore some amount of balance.]]
25th Aug '16 10:56:02 PM BroTim11
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Sometimes the problem is much closer to real-life, such as the scientist PlayingWithSyringes or [[TheyWouldCutYouUp performing invasive, deforming and/or deadly experiments]] on [[TestedOnHumans unwilling subjects]].

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Sometimes the problem is much closer to real-life, real-life evil done in the name of science, such as the scientist PlayingWithSyringes or [[TheyWouldCutYouUp performing invasive, deforming and/or deadly experiments]] on [[TestedOnHumans unwilling subjects]].
20th Jul '16 7:05:03 PM LadySugarQuill
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* Creator/JossWhedon has said the idea behind the Initiative from ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' was to create a conflict between science and magic, and when that happens, magic eventually kicks science's ass. The Initiative goes on recon to study the habits of vampires and captures them so they can do further tests, all to [[DoingInTheWizard better understand how they work and how they can best be contained]]. Buffy just stakes 'em. Guess which works better? Actually, given how many apocalypses Buffy and her friends have actively started and how many monsters she's let go on their merry way because of teenage laziness or stupidity, and given that the Initiative's work only went wrong as a direct result of getting involved with the Slayer... the moral may not actually be what Whedon intended there.
** Actually, Adam would have gotten out of control regardless of the Initiative's involvement with Buffy. They failed because they took it too far and couldn't contain their own asset.

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* Creator/JossWhedon has said the idea behind the Initiative from ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' was to create a conflict between science and magic, and when that happens, magic eventually kicks science's ass. The Initiative goes on recon to study the habits of vampires and captures them so they can do further tests, all to [[DoingInTheWizard better understand how they work and how they can best be contained]]. Buffy just stakes 'em. Guess which works better? Actually, given how many apocalypses Buffy and her friends have actively started and how many monsters she's let go on their merry way because of teenage laziness or stupidity, and given that the Initiative's work only went wrong as a direct result of getting involved with the Slayer... the moral may not actually be what Whedon intended there.
** Actually, Adam would have gotten out of control regardless of the Initiative's involvement with Buffy. They failed because they took it too far and couldn't contain their own asset.
27th May '16 2:23:44 AM Robotnik
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This can often come off as a bit hypocritical, particularly when dealing with speculative fiction, as you get an {{Anvilicious}} message of "everything we have so far is good, but we should stop now.

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This can often come off as a bit hypocritical, particularly when dealing with speculative fiction, as you get an {{Anvilicious}} message of "everything we have so far is good, but we should stop now.
now".
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