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29th Apr '17 10:54:30 AM nombretomado
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* ''Roleplay/InkCity'' has attracted plenty of scientists, including [[WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes Heloise]], [[ElTigre Dr. Chipotle Jr.]], WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}, [=GLaDOS=] and [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} Caroline]]. There are also characters who want to use science to analyze and control the unpredictable residents, like [[WesternAnimation/AeonFlux Trevor]].

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* ''Roleplay/InkCity'' has attracted plenty of scientists, including [[WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes Heloise]], [[ElTigre [[WesternAnimation/ElTigreTheAdventuresOfMannyRivera Dr. Chipotle Jr.]], WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}, [=GLaDOS=] and [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} Caroline]]. There are also characters who want to use science to analyze and control the unpredictable residents, like [[WesternAnimation/AeonFlux Trevor]].
20th Apr '17 1:37:43 PM HiddenWindshield
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* In the 1990 extended edition of ''Literature/{{Nightfall}}'', a scientist tells a priest that he's proven how the apocalypse his religion predicted would come to pass[[note]]a previously undetectable moon eclipsing the one star out of six visible on the darkest day of the year, which occurs every 2049 years and drives everyone mad because of species-wide Nyctophobia[[/note]]. The priest throws a fit because the scientist "destroyed the mystery" or somesuch.

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* In the 1990 extended edition of ''Literature/{{Nightfall}}'', a scientist tells a priest that he's proven how the apocalypse his religion predicted would come to pass[[note]]a previously undetectable moon eclipsing the one star sun out of six visible on the darkest day of the year, which occurs every 2049 years and drives everyone mad because of species-wide Nyctophobia[[/note]]. The priest throws a fit because the scientist "destroyed "[[MeasuringTheMarigolds destroyed the mystery" mystery]]" or somesuch.
20th Mar '17 3:01:46 PM IdeaMaster
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* Inverted in ''Film/{{Avatar}}''; the scientists are all good guys and it's through the scientific approach that they realize they shouldn't interfere with Pandora's ecosystem. The Na'vi god is also a real being, fully examinable and explainable through science. The bad guys are the military and corporates who misuse technology. The movie does ''not'' suggest that humans should shift back to hunter-gatherer culture like some supporters and detractors believe. In fact, the supplementary material is pretty adamant that scientific advancement is the only way to rescue Earth from its miserable state, and that research from Pandora is vital to this progress. The message is that aboriginal peoples should not be forced to adapt modern lifestyle against their will, and that horrible consequences caused by environmental exploitation can't be fixed with more exploitation.

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* Inverted in ''Film/{{Avatar}}''; the scientists are all good guys and it's through the scientific approach that they realize they shouldn't interfere with Pandora's ecosystem. The Na'vi god goddess is also a real being, fully examinable and explainable through science. The bad guys are the military and corporates who misuse technology. The movie does ''not'' suggest that humans should shift back to hunter-gatherer culture like some supporters and detractors believe. In fact, the supplementary material is pretty adamant that scientific advancement is the only way to rescue Earth from its miserable state, and that research from Pandora is vital to this progress. The message is that aboriginal peoples should not be forced to adapt modern lifestyle against their will, and that horrible consequences caused by environmental exploitation can't be fixed with more exploitation.
16th Mar '17 8:02:49 PM hullflyer
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** While Crichton's characters seem to be either Lampshading this trope or living up (down?) to it, if you pay attention, it's really ''Big Business'' and its irresponsible use of scientific discoveries that is bad, not science itself.
8th Feb '17 7:36:01 PM erforce
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* In ''RockyIV'' the cold, emotionless Russian boxer Ivan Drago is shown training in a cartoonishly high-tech facility that measures his every exertion while government technicians look on, meanwhile virtuous American Rocky trains on a farm by cutting down trees, lifting bales of hay, and running with a yoke on his shoulders. Guess who wins.

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* In ''RockyIV'' ''Film/RockyIV'' the cold, emotionless Russian boxer Ivan Drago is shown training in a cartoonishly high-tech facility that measures his every exertion while government technicians look on, meanwhile virtuous American Rocky trains on a farm by cutting down trees, lifting bales of hay, and running with a yoke on his shoulders. Guess who wins.
21st Jan '17 8:31:42 AM Psyclone
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* [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Reed Richards and Doctor Doom]] can be viewed as symbolizing technology's potential for good or evil, depending on who is wielding it and for what purpose. Reed's a perfect example, as he's often portrayed as the most cold and calculating of the ComicBook/FantasticFour. For instance, during the [[Comicbook/CivilWar superhero civil war]], he designed an extradimensional prison camp to hold his fellow superheroes because cold logic told him that forced superhuman registration was the only way to avoid an Armageddon-level disaster. None of the less scientifically-minded members of the team could stand to be a part of it, and Sue - the conscience of the team - eventually convinced him that it was better to essentially be nice and hope for the best than to be mean for a good reason. Taken even further in Comicbook/UltimateMarvel, where [[spoiler:Reed has a full fledged FaceHeelTurn and becomes the de facto Ultimate version of Kang the Conqueror]].

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* [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Reed Richards and Doctor Doom]] can be viewed as symbolizing technology's potential for good or evil, depending on who is wielding it and for what purpose. Reed's a perfect example, as he's often portrayed as the most cold and calculating of the ComicBook/FantasticFour. For instance, during the [[Comicbook/CivilWar superhero civil war]], he designed an extradimensional prison camp to hold his fellow superheroes because cold logic told him that forced superhuman registration was the only way to avoid an Armageddon-level disaster. None of the less scientifically-minded members of the team could stand to be a part of it, and Sue - the conscience of the team - eventually convinced him that it was better to essentially be nice and hope for the best than to be mean for a good reason. Taken even further in Comicbook/UltimateMarvel, where [[spoiler:Reed has a full fledged FaceHeelTurn and de facto becomes the de facto new Ultimate version of Kang the Conqueror]].Doctor Doom.]].
2nd Jan '17 5:37:12 PM nombretomado
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* ''Roleplay/InkCity'' has attracted plenty of scientists, including [[WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes Heloise]], [[ElTigre Dr. Chipotle Jr.]], WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}, GLaDOS and [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} Caroline]]. There are also characters who want to use science to analyze and control the unpredictable residents, like [[WesternAnimation/AeonFlux Trevor]].

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* ''Roleplay/InkCity'' has attracted plenty of scientists, including [[WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes Heloise]], [[ElTigre Dr. Chipotle Jr.]], WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}, GLaDOS [=GLaDOS=] and [[VideoGame/{{Portal 2}} Caroline]]. There are also characters who want to use science to analyze and control the unpredictable residents, like [[WesternAnimation/AeonFlux Trevor]].
3rd Dec '16 10:02:12 PM JamesShade
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* Played first at straight, but later averted in Sepultura's ''Biotech Is Godzilla''.

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* Played first at straight, but later averted Ultimately subverted in Sepultura's ''Biotech Is Godzilla''.
4th Nov '16 5:05:24 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Jonathan Swift rams this Trope down the reader's throat in the Laputa chapter of ''Literature/GulliversTravels''. The rulers are tyrants (and chauvinists) who respect only science, but it has made them incompetent rulers; while they are fond of mathematics, astronomy, music and technology, they fail to make practical use of their knowledge. For instance, buildings in Laputa are poorly built and the clothing doesn't fit because they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures. Their physical conditions have degenerated too, depicted as becoming so lost in thought that they do not move unless struck by a "bladder", many of their heads have become stuck reclined to one side, and they often suffer from strabismus: one eye turns inward and the other looks up "to the zenith". They don't even know that their wives are adulterers who are using their lack of attention to carry on affairs with the more loving servants. Even worse, they've had a negative effect on their subjects. Not only are Lagado and Balnibarbi poverty-stricken, the governor of the former visited Laputa once, and was inspired to build the Academy of Projectors, where completely worthless projects are endlessly worked on. (Ironically, the governor of Balnibarbi is likely the most lucid man in the chapter.) of course, Swift was using this chapter to mock - among other things - the absurd inventions of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society the Royal Society]].


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* Jonathan Swift rams this Trope down the reader's throat in the Laputa chapter of ''Literature/GulliversTravels''. The rulers are tyrants (and [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain chauvinists]]) who respect only science, but it has made them [[TheCaligula incompetent rulers]]; while they are fond of mathematics, astronomy, music and technology, they fail to make practical use of their knowledge. For instance, buildings in Laputa are poorly built and the clothing doesn't fit because they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures. Their [[EvilMakesYouUgly physical conditions have degenerated too]], depicted as becoming so lost in thought that they do not move unless struck by a "bladder", many of their heads have become stuck reclined to one side, and they often suffer from strabismus: one eye turns inward and the other looks up "to the zenith". They don't even know that their wives [[YourCheatingHeart are adulterers]] who are using their husbands' lack of attention to carry on affairs with the more loving servants. Even worse, they've had a negative effect on their subjects. Not only are Lagado and Balnibarbi poverty-stricken, the governor of the former visited Laputa once, and was inspired to build the Academy of Projectors, where completely worthless projects are endlessly worked on. (Ironically, [[OnlySaneMan the governor of Balnibarbi]] is likely the most lucid man in the chapter, one of the few characters Gulliver meets with any common sense.) of course, Swift was using this chapter to mock - [[{{Satire}}among other things]] - the absurd inventions of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society the Royal Society]].
2nd Nov '16 6:22:40 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Jonathan Swift rams this Trope down the reader's throat in the Laputa chapter of ''Literature/GulliversTravels''. The rulers are tyrants (and chauvinists) who respect only science, but it has made them incompetent rulers; while they are fond of mathematics, astronomy, music and technology, they fail to make practical use of their knowledge. For instance, buildings in Laputa are poorly built and the clothing doesn't fit because they take measurements with instruments such as quadrants and a compass rather than with tape measures. Their physical conditions have degenerated too, depicted as becoming so lost in thought that they do not move unless struck by a "bladder", many of their heads have become stuck reclined to one side, and they often suffer from strabismus: one eye turns inward and the other looks up "to the zenith". They don't even know that their wives are adulterers who are using their lack of attention to carry on affairs with the more loving servants. Even worse, they've had a negative effect on their subjects. Not only are Lagado and Balnibarbi poverty-stricken, the governor of the former visited Laputa once, and was inspired to build the Academy of Projectors, where completely worthless projects are endlessly worked on. (Ironically, the governor of Balnibarbi is likely the most lucid man in the chapter.) of course, Swift was using this chapter to mock - among other things - the absurd inventions of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society the Royal Society]].
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