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26th Jan '17 1:13:57 PM Gosicrystal
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*** They aren't entirely absent, at least. Ernest still appears briefly regardless, as his PA can appear long before Ashton is even mentioned. Ashton is still mentioned if you go to Salva at the appropriate time (they'll mention the fighter who went down to challenge the dragon) but he'll be LostForever if you don't actually go and watch him fight. It's implied that he succeeded, since no one was there to distract him, and once you come back to Salva the dragon is gone.

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*** They aren't entirely absent, at least. Ernest still appears briefly regardless, as his PA can appear long before Ashton is even mentioned. Ashton is still mentioned if you go to Salva at the appropriate time (they'll mention the fighter who went down to challenge the dragon) but he'll be LostForever [[PermanentlyMissableContent permanently missed]] if you don't actually go and watch him fight. It's implied that he succeeded, since no one was there to distract him, and once you come back to Salva the dragon is gone.
24th Jan '17 12:53:47 PM PDL
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* Averted in most post-Gen II ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games, when you can chose a PlayerCharacter of either sex. The opposite-gender player character becomes a NonPlayerCharacter. Played straight in ''Crystal, ''[=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=]'', and ''Sun and Moon'', though.

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* Averted in most post-Gen II ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games, when you can chose a PlayerCharacter of either sex. The opposite-gender player character becomes a NonPlayerCharacter. Played straight in ''Crystal, ''Crystal'', ''[=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=]'', and ''Sun and Moon'', though.
6th Jan '17 1:58:26 AM Morgenthaler
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** ''StreetsOfRage 3'' offers a choice between four player characters. The {{cutscene}}s shows all four heroes working together, while the game itself only supports two players at most.

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** ''StreetsOfRage ''VideoGame/StreetsOfRage 3'' offers a choice between four player characters. The {{cutscene}}s shows all four heroes working together, while the game itself only supports two players at most.
23rd Dec '16 9:47:57 AM Saurubiker
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* Subverted in the Konami arcade game ''VideoGame/MysticWarriors''. There five characters to choose from, but only up to four players are allowed at the same time. The character not chosen by anyone ends up becoming a [[BadassInDistress kidnapping victim]] whom the players must try to rescue. Otherwise, if there's less than four players a random character will be chosen as the sacrifice instead.

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* Subverted in the Konami arcade game ''VideoGame/MysticWarriors''. There are five characters to choose from, but only up to four players are allowed at the same a time. The odd character not chosen by anyone out ends up becoming a [[BadassInDistress kidnapping victim]] whom the players rest of the team must try to rescue. rescue from the bad guys. Otherwise, if there's less than four players a random character will be chosen as the sacrifice instead.
instead if there's less than four players.
23rd Dec '16 8:38:23 AM Saurubiker
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* In ''VideoGame/TheSimpsons'' arcade game, the whole family is shown in cut-scenes trying to rescue Maggie, but how many of them are in the actual game depends on how many people are playing. The game was released in a standard 2-player version and a deluxe 4-player version.
** Most other beat-'em-ups by Konami fall under this also because, in the deluxe cabinets, each character is bound to a specific player. In the ''Simpsons'' case, player 1 will always be Marge; in the ''[[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles TMNT]]'' beat-'em-ups, it'll be Leonardo; in ''VideoGame/SunsetRiders'', [=1P=] will be Steve, and so on.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheSimpsons'' arcade game, the whole family is shown in cut-scenes trying to rescue Maggie, but how many of them are in the actual game depends on how many people are playing. The game was released in a standard 2-player version and a deluxe 4-player version.
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version. This also applies to other beat-'em-ups by Konami fall under this also because, in arcade games from the deluxe cabinets, each character is bound to a specific player. In the ''Simpsons'' case, player 1 will always be Marge; in the ''[[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles TMNT]]'' beat-'em-ups, it'll be Leonardo; in same period that were released with 4-player versions such as ''VideoGame/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|The Arcade Game}}'' and ''VideoGame/SunsetRiders'', [=1P=] will be Steve, and so on.which had the characters assigned by control panels.



%%* ''VideoGame/{{Terramex}}'' does this.



* Averted in the Sega Genesis version of ''Ghostbusters'', you'd choose one of three Ghostbusters (Winston wasn't present for some reason). Each had their own strengths and weaknesses (Egon could run fast but couldn't take many hits, Ray was slow but could take massive damage, and Peter was a balance between both). When you chose one of them, all three would appear at the firehouse, but only one would show up in the cut scenes at the end of each level. This would imply that the other two just hung out at the firehouse while the player chosen one did all the work. In the final level, however, you'd fight the other two as boss characters because they'd been possessed by ghosts.

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* Averted in the Sega Genesis version of ''Ghostbusters'', you'd choose one of three Ghostbusters (Winston wasn't present for some reason). Each had their own strengths and weaknesses (Egon could run fast but couldn't take many hits, Ray was slow but could take massive damage, and Peter was a balance between both). When you chose one of them, all three would appear at the firehouse, but only one would show up in the cut scenes at the end of each level. This would imply that the other two just hung out at the firehouse while the player chosen one did all the work. In the final level, however, you'd fight the other two as boss characters because they'd been possessed by ghosts.




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* Subverted in the Konami arcade game ''VideoGame/MysticWarriors''. There five characters to choose from, but only up to four players are allowed at the same time. The character not chosen by anyone ends up becoming a [[BadassInDistress kidnapping victim]] whom the players must try to rescue. Otherwise, if there's less than four players a random character will be chosen as the sacrifice instead.
2nd Dec '16 11:57:26 PM rmctagg09
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* Averted in ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda''. The male and female versions of [[PlayerCharacter Pathfinder Ryder]] are a brother and sister pair. Whichever one the player chooses, the other still plays an important role in the narrative and is off having adventures of his/her own.
* Averted in most post-Gen II ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games, when you can chose a PlayerCharacter of either sex. The opposite-gender player character becomes a NonPlayerCharacter. Played straight in ''Crystal, [=FireRed=]'', and ''[=LeafGreen=]'', though.

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* Averted in ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda''. The male and female versions of [[PlayerCharacter Pathfinder Ryder]] are a brother and sister pair. Whichever one the player chooses, the other still plays an important role in the narrative and is off having adventures of his/her their own.
* Averted in most post-Gen II ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games, when you can chose a PlayerCharacter of either sex. The opposite-gender player character becomes a NonPlayerCharacter. Played straight in ''Crystal, [=FireRed=]'', ''[=FireRed=] and ''[=LeafGreen=]'', [=LeafGreen=]'', and ''Sun and Moon'', though.
22nd Oct '16 1:20:20 PM syrusdark
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*** Actually, the presence of the Cousland's dog at Ostagar implies the Human Noble did make it this far, and just died fighting some Darkspawn.
16th Sep '16 8:39:57 AM RainbowPhoenix
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* Averted in ''VideoGame/MassEffectAndromeda''. The male and female versions of [[PlayerCharacter Pathfinder Ryder]] are a brother and sister pair. Whichever one the player chooses, the other still plays an important role in the narrative and is off having adventures of his/her own.
29th Jul '16 11:10:01 AM Morgenthaler
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So you decide to pick Bob. And as you play the game, you begin wondering... What happened to Alice and Charles? You keep playing the game, reaching HundredPercentCompletion, and you never see either. Looks like Alice, Bob and Charles are Schrödinger's Player Characters. In more generalized explanation: You are given a choice of characters, and once chosen, the game seems to go based on the assumption the selected character is the only one who exists. This trope is VERY common in games that give you a choice of pre-generated Player Characters, so much that it may come as a surprise when it is averted and the [=PCs=] you did not choose turn out as {{NPC}}s. This can also be confusing when each character is given a different backstory. Did those events even occur?

The question is then: do the other characters exist? [[CuttingOffTheBranches If not, then why not?]] If so, then are they the [[HeroOfAnotherStory Heroes Of Another Story]]? If so how do their stories mesh with the one of the character we selected? Especially since they'd otherwise go through the same events, same levels, same bosses. etc.

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So you decide to pick Bob. And as you play the game, you begin wondering... What happened to Alice and Charles? You keep playing the game, reaching HundredPercentCompletion, and you never see either. Looks like Alice, Bob and Charles are Schrödinger's Player Characters. In more generalized explanation: You are given a choice of characters, and once chosen, the game seems to go based on the assumption the selected character is the only one who exists. This trope is VERY common in games that give you a choice of pre-generated Player Characters, so much that it may come as a surprise when it is averted and the [=PCs=] you did not choose turn out as {{NPC}}s. This can also be confusing when each character is given a different backstory. Did those events even occur?

The question is then: do the other characters exist? [[CuttingOffTheBranches If not, then why not?]] If so, then are they the [[HeroOfAnotherStory Heroes Of Another Story]]? If so how do their stories mesh with the one of the character we selected? Especially since they'd otherwise go through the same events, same levels, same bosses. etc.
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Named, of course, after [[UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat Schrödinger's Cat]].

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Named, of course, after [[UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat Schrödinger's Cat]].



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* ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' plays with this. You will find armor sets of all classes you did ''not'' choose around the game, on corpses.

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* ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' plays with this. You will find armor sets of all classes you did ''not'' choose around the game, on corpses.



*** Horrifically/hilariously explained in [[http://www.dorkly.com/video/13119/dorkly-bits-the-horrible-secret-behind-starter-pokemon this fan video]]. But more likely, Professor Oak keeps the third starter with him, as a DummiedOut [[http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Blue/Update%2014/ battle]] with him shows. There are actually three versions of this battle programmed into the game, one with each of the starters (fully evolved) as the fifth Pokémon on the team; presumably, you would fight the version with the starter neither you nor your rival chose.

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*** Horrifically/hilariously explained in [[http://www.dorkly.com/video/13119/dorkly-bits-the-horrible-secret-behind-starter-pokemon this fan video]]. But more likely, Professor Oak keeps the third starter with him, as a DummiedOut [[http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Blue/Update%2014/ battle]] with him shows. There are actually three versions of this battle programmed into the game, one with each of the starters (fully evolved) as the fifth Pokémon on the team; presumably, you would fight the version with the starter neither you nor your rival chose.



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29th Jul '16 10:51:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* Played straight in ''LandsOfLore: The Throne of Chaos''. The player has a choice of four champions, each of whom has a little blurb about why he's the best choice and how the others will fail. It seems as though they are in competition. However, once the choice is made, the other three are never mentioned again. One wonders why, if the kingdom was in such great peril, they didn't just team up.

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* Played straight in ''LandsOfLore: ''VideoGame/LandsOfLore: The Throne of Chaos''. The player has a choice of four champions, each of whom has a little blurb about why he's the best choice and how the others will fail. It seems as though they are in competition. However, once the choice is made, the other three are never mentioned again. One wonders why, if the kingdom was in such great peril, they didn't just team up.
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