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10th Feb '16 12:43:26 PM DrOO7
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* ''Literature/SweetValleyHigh'' plays with this. It's averted among the tertiary characters, showing how it affects not only the victim but the perpetratoró by the time he reforms and wants to make amends, no one wants to be his friend, and no one believes his sincere efforts at redeeming himself. But it's sometimes played straight with the main or secondary charactersóJessica and her friends often get called out for doing this to othersóbut rarely explicitly punished, whereas behavior from Elizabeth that could be considered this is rarely even acknowledged.
3rd Feb '16 1:52:06 PM ZeldaQueen64
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* Heavily subverted in the ''WesternAnimation/StaticShock'' episode "Jimmy". Jimmy is constantly bullied in school and Virgil and Richie are the only ones who stand up for him at all. Virgil getting upset when Jimmy suggests showing off his dad's gun (a BerserkButton since Virgil's mom died in gunfire) and Jimmy's escalated bullying leads to him [[spoiler:pulling the aforementioned gun on his tormentors and accidentally shooting Richie in the leg.]] The episode ends with the viewers being urged to step in and help anyone being seen getting bullied.
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* Heavily subverted Subverted in the ''WesternAnimation/StaticShock'' episode "Jimmy". Jimmy is constantly bullied in school and Virgil and Richie are the only ones who stand up for him at all. Virgil getting upset when Jimmy suggests showing off his dad's gun (a BerserkButton since Virgil's mom died in gunfire) and Jimmy's escalated bullying leads to him [[spoiler:pulling the aforementioned gun on his tormentors and accidentally shooting Richie in the leg.]] The episode ends with the viewers being urged to step in and help anyone being seen getting bullied.
24th Jan '16 4:17:55 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}'' has an entire subplot involving SummerGlau's awkward, geeky character who used to be bullied and used. Nobody lucked out on that one.
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* ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}'' has an entire subplot involving SummerGlau's Creator/SummerGlau's awkward, geeky character who used to be bullied and used. Nobody lucked out on that one.
21st Jan '16 4:19:44 PM ZeldaQueen64
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[[AC:FanFiction]] * Subverted in ''FanFic/HitList''. The reason a lot of the attackers participate in Ganondorf's plan is because they were bullied, ignored, or marginalized and wanted revenge. This shows up pretty early in, when Link stops one of the shooters from killing Ruto and Darunia out of bitterness over Darnia's popularity and Ruto turning him down when he asked her out. [[spoiler:The end of the fic has Link, when giving a speech commemorating those who died in the attack, calling for special attention to be given to bully victims, so something like that could be prevented in the future.]]

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* Heavily subverted in the ''WesternAnimation/StaticShock'' episode "Jimmy". Jimmy is constantly bullied in school and Virgil and Richie are the only ones who stand up for him at all. Virgil getting upset when Jimmy suggests showing off his dad's gun (a BerserkButton since Virgil's mom died in gunfire) and Jimmy's escalated bullying leads to him [[spoiler:pulling the aforementioned gun on his tormentors and accidentally shooting Richie in the leg.]] The episode ends with the viewers being urged to step in and help anyone being seen getting bullied.
9th Nov '15 10:30:00 PM M84
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* One early ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}} Sunday strip played with this. Dilbert and Dogbert encounter by chance a former classmate of Dilbert's who used to bully him. Dilbert has a chat with him and at first it seems like it's a Type 4 with Dilbert claiming that the bullying[[MiseryBuildsCharacter made him the man he is today]]...a bitter adult, obsessed with thoughts of revenge. He and Dogbert then proceed to mock the former bully.
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* One early ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}} Sunday strip played with this. Dilbert and Dogbert encounter by chance a former classmate of Dilbert's who used to bully him. Dilbert has a chat with him and at first it seems like it's a Type 4 with Dilbert claiming that the bullying[[MiseryBuildsCharacter bullying [[MiseryBuildsCharacter made him the man he is today]]...a bitter adult, obsessed with thoughts of revenge. He and Dogbert then proceed to mock the former bully.
9th Nov '15 10:29:34 PM M84
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[[AC:NewspaperComics]] * One early ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}} Sunday strip played with this. Dilbert and Dogbert encounter by chance a former classmate of Dilbert's who used to bully him. Dilbert has a chat with him and at first it seems like it's a Type 4 with Dilbert claiming that the bullying[[MiseryBuildsCharacter made him the man he is today]]...a bitter adult, obsessed with thoughts of revenge. He and Dogbert then proceed to mock the former bully.
31st Oct '15 3:08:22 PM imadmagician
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minor edits in text about being a snitch, the one after it, the CEO part.
Sometimes, as part of the "blame the victim" argument, the accused bully will claim that an unwanted friendship is being forced upon him/her, particularly if a classmate is awkward or otherwise doesn't have the same interests, chemistry or other things it takes to become friends with and maintain said relationship. Additionally, some will argue that being bullied will motivate the victim to bigger and better success in life and sometimes use the "if you think it's bad now, wait until you get into the real world" line of argument -- to wit, in the corporate world, the schoolyard bullies and elite will be nothing compared to demanding bosses, executives, managers, etc., who are interested in results and will not hesitate to express disapproval (often bluntly) if the desired results are not delivered. Hence, the bullying "steels" the victim toward demanding bosses who scream at employees who don't deliver on expectations. They seem to forget however that a CEO is interested in beneficial results for the company, whether they have to treat the employees in a nice or mean way, but a Bully is only interested in sadistically watching their prey squirm as the end result. It doesn't help that some adults who see Bullying as nothing more than a "harmless rite of passage" tell the victims "not to [[TheStoolPigeon be a snitch]] and tell on their "friend" because no one likes a tattler". They seem to grossly forget a few things, such as: 1 - The Bully is NOT a friend or someone who means anything good for the victim. 2 - Tattling is a very generic and vague term, which is also used in a BlackAndWhiteInsanity context: according to the way it is used, anyone who "tattles" on an offender, be it a student sneaking candy at class, a bully tormenting a kid, or a criminal / murderer as a witness in a law court, is seen [[AllCrimesAreEqual equally bad and/or guilty]]. Do not take in account what the offender did and its severity, the only worthwhile lesson here is that telling an authority figure what someone is doing is an inherently bad and heinous act regardless of circumstances. One final misconception rooted in bigotry some people have, is that Bullying is some sort of "social immune system" that strikes the victims when they exhibit "unpleasant" traits. "Unpleasant" is a very subjective term, as a lot of traits many immediately see as "bad" (What they personally dislike or have been indoctrinated to blindly hate), such as acting like a geek (enjoying Sci-Fi shows or RPG Games), nerd (being an overachiever or being curious / enjoying learning new things), or having a poor fashion sense (never mind one may not be able to afford trendy clothes or simply is not a fashion victim), bring no harm to others, so in this particular case, it is actually "forcing your personal likes and dislikes on others" through harmful ways.
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Sometimes, as part of the "blame the victim" argument, the accused bully will claim that an unwanted friendship is being forced upon him/her, particularly if a classmate is awkward or otherwise doesn't have the same interests, chemistry or other things it takes to become friends with and maintain said relationship. Additionally, some will argue that being bullied will motivate the victim to bigger and better success in life and sometimes use the "if you think it's bad now, wait until you get into the real world" line of argument -- to wit, in the corporate world, the schoolyard bullies and elite will be nothing compared to demanding bosses, executives, managers, etc., who are interested in results and will not hesitate to express disapproval (often bluntly) if the desired results are not delivered. Hence, the bullying "steels" the victim toward demanding bosses who scream at employees who don't deliver on expectations. They seem to forget however Never mind that a CEO is interested in beneficial results for the company, whether they have to treat the employees in a nice nicely or mean way, but badly, while a Bully is only interested in sadistically watching their prey squirm as the end result. result; Not to mention how that argument is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation built on a fallacy]]. It doesn't help that some adults who see Bullying as nothing more than a "harmless rite of passage" tell the victims "not to [[TheStoolPigeon be a snitch]] and tell on their "friend" because no one likes a tattler". They seem to grossly forget a few things, such as: 1 - The Bully is NOT a friend or someone who means anything with any good for intentions towards the victim. 2 - Tattling "Tattling" is a very generic and vague term, which is also vague, usually used in a BlackAndWhiteInsanity context: according to the way it is used, anyone context, as in: people who "tattles" "tattle" on an offender, offenders, be it they a student sneaking candy at class, a bully tormenting a kid, or a criminal / murderer as a witness in a law court, is seen are all [[AllCrimesAreEqual equally bad and/or guilty]]. Do not take in account what bad]]/[[MisplacedRetribution guilty]], forgetting all the offender did and its severity, the did. The only worthwhile lesson here is that telling an authority figure what someone else is doing is an always inherently bad and heinous act regardless of circumstances. heinous. One final misconception rooted in bigotry some people have, is that Bullying is some a sort of "social immune system" that strikes the victims when they exhibit "unpleasant" traits. "Unpleasant" is a very subjective term, as a lot of traits many immediately see identify as "bad" (What they personally dislike or have been indoctrinated to blindly hate), hate) - such as acting like being a geek (enjoying Sci-Fi shows or RPG Games), nerd (being an (a curious overachiever or being curious / enjoying learning new things), ), or having a poor fashion sense (never mind one may not be able to afford trendy clothes or simply is not a fashion victim), victim) - bring no harm to others, so in it seems this particular case, it case is actually "forcing your personal likes and dislikes on others" through harmful ways.
16th Oct '15 2:08:51 PM superkeijikun
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[[AC:VideoGames]] * ''VideoGame/YandereSimulator'' averts this. If you damage a romantic rival's reputation severely enough, she will be ostracized by her classmates. Continual damage to her reputation will result in her not coming to school, having her desk vandalized with death threats, and may ultimately result in her [[DrivenToSuicide hanging herself]].
7th Oct '15 6:29:18 PM 940131
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** Subverted with [[spoiler:Severus Snape as he still hates his bully, James Potter, years afterwards, even after he stopped being a dick. As Sirius points out, Snape gave just as good as he got. By the point James had reformed, Snape joined the nascent Death Eaters, who bullied half-bloods and "mudbloods", turned into a blood purity organization that was a cross between the Nazi party and KKK, and even after he switched back to the good side Snape wound up [[YouAreWhatYouHate turning into]] a SadistTeacher who took his childhood resentment out on his bully's son.]]
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** Subverted with [[spoiler:Severus Snape as he still hates his bully, James Potter, years afterwards, even after he stopped being a dick. As Sirius points out, Snape gave just as good as he got. By the point James had reformed, Snape joined the nascent Death Eaters, who bullied half-bloods and "mudbloods", turned into a blood purity organization that was a cross between the Nazi party and KKK, and even after he switched back to the good side Snape wound up [[YouAreWhatYouHate turning turns into]] a SadistTeacher who took his childhood resentment out on his bully's son.]]
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