History Main / SawedoffShotgun

21st Aug '17 10:03:53 AM thatmadork
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* Craftable in ''VideoGame/ProjectZomboid''. Take a regular shotgun, take a saw to it, get the sawed-off shotgun. Damage and range go down, but so does the shotgun's considerable weight, and the death arc gets wider too.
15th Aug '17 6:30:10 AM Sleeping_Beauty
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* The SLY 2020 from ''VideoGame/GoldeneyeWii'' is one, and is the only shotgun in the game to be this. It's the most powerful shotgun in the game, has good range and uses a magazine as opposed to the other pump shotguns using individual shells. The downsides to it however, is that its accuracy is lower than the other shotguns due to it being sawn off, its magazine capacity is the lowest with 7 (though the use of High-Cap Mag extends the SLY's magazine size to 9 rounds) and it has no iron sights.
8th Jul '17 9:51:16 AM nombretomado
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** They weren't the only ones. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_shotgun#History Also taken directly]] from TheOtherWiki: "During the trench warfare of the Gallipoli Campaign, Major Stephen Midgley of the Australian 5th Light Horse Regiment was widely known to use a sawn-off double barrelled shotgun while leading his troops, the weapon's effectiveness resulting in Turkish officers complaining that it was not a 'weapon of war' under international law after Midgley took one Turkish soldier's head "clean off his shoulders". Midgley was ordered by an Australian general to cease using his shotgun and switch to a conventional rifle and bayonet, to which the Major was "bitterly peeved"." Don't fuck with Australia.

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** They weren't the only ones. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_shotgun#History Also taken directly]] from TheOtherWiki: Wiki/TheOtherWiki: "During the trench warfare of the Gallipoli Campaign, Major Stephen Midgley of the Australian 5th Light Horse Regiment was widely known to use a sawn-off double barrelled shotgun while leading his troops, the weapon's effectiveness resulting in Turkish officers complaining that it was not a 'weapon of war' under international law after Midgley took one Turkish soldier's head "clean off his shoulders". Midgley was ordered by an Australian general to cease using his shotgun and switch to a conventional rifle and bayonet, to which the Major was "bitterly peeved"." Don't fuck with Australia.
10th Jun '17 3:27:48 PM Gemser
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->''Sawed-off shotgun, hand on the pump''
-->-- '''Cypress Hill, ''Hand on the pump'''''
10th Jun '17 3:14:27 PM nombretomado
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** The US Supreme Court ruled this law was legal in 1939, in the landmark case of ''United States v. Miller'', 307 U.S. 174. Of course only the prosecution showed up as the defendant was too poor to show up, and was dead before the ruling came down. Also, the ruling was based upon faulty information as to whether a short-barrelled shotgun was used by any national militias. It's also been a point of contention whether two Supreme Court justices who were WorldWarOne veterans (but never in the trenches; one was an artillery officer and the other an Army lawyer) were personally aware of the military usage of short-barreled shotguns, regardless of it never having been introduced into evidence.

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** The US Supreme Court ruled this law was legal in 1939, in the landmark case of ''United States v. Miller'', 307 U.S. 174. Of course only the prosecution showed up as the defendant was too poor to show up, and was dead before the ruling came down. Also, the ruling was based upon faulty information as to whether a short-barrelled shotgun was used by any national militias. It's also been a point of contention whether two Supreme Court justices who were WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI veterans (but never in the trenches; one was an artillery officer and the other an Army lawyer) were personally aware of the military usage of short-barreled shotguns, regardless of it never having been introduced into evidence.
17th May '17 3:38:14 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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This trope is prominent in British shows, where the sawed off shotgun remains the weapon of choice for the LondonGangster, or the villains in any police procedural, particularly if it involves an ArmedBlag. This is mainly due to the difficulty of obtaining handguns in the UK, while shotguns are still legally available. Incidentally, British English prefers "sawn-off" (the past participle) and American English "sawed-off" (the past preterite, which, [[HaveAGayOldTime while sounding perfectly fine to American ears]], sounds like [[TheProblemWithPenIsland something else]] to British ones - though it still works pretty well, considering the context).

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This trope is prominent in British shows, where the sawed off shotgun remains the weapon of choice for the LondonGangster, or the villains in any police procedural, particularly if it involves an ArmedBlag. This is mainly due to the difficulty of obtaining handguns in the UK, while shotguns are still legally available. Incidentally, British English prefers "sawn-off" (the past participle) and American English "sawed-off" (the past preterite, which, [[HaveAGayOldTime [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch while sounding perfectly fine to American ears]], sounds like [[TheProblemWithPenIsland something else]] to British ones - -- though it still works pretty well, considering the context).
8th May '17 11:41:20 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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* Oddly enough, short-barreled shotguns are not restricted in Canada, so long as the barrel is factory-made and the total length of the gun is 30 or more inches. Cutting the barrel off yourself, on the other hand, can carry prison time if you're caught with it.

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* Oddly enough, short-barreled shotguns are not restricted in Canada, so long as the barrel is factory-made and the total length of the gun is 30 or more inches. Cutting the barrel off yourself, on the other hand, can carry prison jail time if you're caught with it.
8th May '17 11:41:04 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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* Oddly enough, short-barreled shotguns are not restricted in Canada, so long as the barrel is factory-made and the total length of the gun is 30 or more inches. Cutting the barrel off yourself, on the other hand, can carry prison time.

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* Oddly enough, short-barreled shotguns are not restricted in Canada, so long as the barrel is factory-made and the total length of the gun is 30 or more inches. Cutting the barrel off yourself, on the other hand, can carry prison time.time if you're caught with it.
8th May '17 11:10:47 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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* The [[https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/ Mossberg Shockwave]] is a pump-action gun with a 14-inch factory barrel, and is not considered a Class 3/NFA gun in that configuration (a shotgun is defined by the NFA as a "shoulder-fired" smoothbore weapon, and the Shockwave [[LoopholeAbuse rolls off the assembly line with a pistol grip long enough to bring it up to the 26-inch minimum length]]), meaning it does not require a federal tax stamp. Of course, it still might not be compliant with some states' gun laws, and it only skates by the ATF's rules in that specific configuration; putting any other type of rear stock on one without first swapping out for a longer barrel ''will'' turn it into a Class 3 weapon.

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* The [[https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/ Mossberg Shockwave]] is a pump-action gun with a 14-inch factory barrel, and is not considered a Class 3/NFA gun in that configuration configuration, meaning it does not require a federal tax stamp (a shotgun is defined by the NFA as a "shoulder-fired" smoothbore weapon, and the Shockwave [[LoopholeAbuse rolls off the assembly line with a pistol grip long enough to bring it up to the 26-inch minimum length]]), meaning it does not require a federal tax stamp.length]]). Of course, it still might not be compliant with some states' gun laws, and it only skates by the ATF's rules in that specific configuration; putting any other type of rear stock on one without first swapping out for a longer barrel ''will'' turn it into a Class 3 weapon.
8th May '17 10:54:33 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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* The [[https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/ Mossberg Shockwave]] is a pump-action gun with a 14-inch factory barrel, and is not considered a Class 3/NFA gun in that configuration, meaning it does not require a federal tax stamp. Of course, it still might not be compliant with some states' gun laws, and it only skates by the ATF's rules in that specific configuration; putting any other type of rear stock on one without first swapping out for a longer barrel ''will'' turn it into a Class 3 weapon.

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* The [[https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/ Mossberg Shockwave]] is a pump-action gun with a 14-inch factory barrel, and is not considered a Class 3/NFA gun in that configuration, configuration (a shotgun is defined by the NFA as a "shoulder-fired" smoothbore weapon, and the Shockwave [[LoopholeAbuse rolls off the assembly line with a pistol grip long enough to bring it up to the 26-inch minimum length]]), meaning it does not require a federal tax stamp. Of course, it still might not be compliant with some states' gun laws, and it only skates by the ATF's rules in that specific configuration; putting any other type of rear stock on one without first swapping out for a longer barrel ''will'' turn it into a Class 3 weapon.
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