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22nd Nov '17 5:32:19 PM SinDustries
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* In the ''Literature/PrinceRoger'' series by Creator/DavidWeber and Creator/JohnRingo, one important supporting character's ENTIRE RELIGION is based on this. The character's religion came about as a result of a religious purge war on her home planet, with everyone not in line with the Corrupt Church being labelled Satanists. Thinking that Satan can't be all that bad if the corrupt church was an example of God's wishes, they pretty much just took the rites and litany of their corrupt church and switched all the names and references around as part InsultBackfire and part TakeThat. Hence, their religious practices bear little resemblance to those commonly associated with Satanists in the media; the entire name is arguably a joke masquerading as a religion. As for their actual beliefs: The Archangels at some point decided they could run the universe better than God, and imprisoned him (which is also why evil happens, according to them; the Archangels are powerful and wise, but neither omnipotent, omniscient nor omnibenevolent). Lucifer tried to defend God, but failed and was cast out of Heaven. Now he sits in Hell, amassing his forces and biding his time until Armageddon, when he will lead his army into Heaven, defeat the Archangels and free God, who will then grant Lucifer's followers the Promised Land as a reward.

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* In the ''Literature/PrinceRoger'' series by Creator/DavidWeber and Creator/JohnRingo, one important supporting character's ENTIRE RELIGION is based on this. The character's religion came about as a result of a religious purge war on her home planet, with everyone not in line with the Corrupt Church corrupt church being labelled Satanists. Thinking that Satan can't be all that bad if the corrupt church was an example of God's wishes, they pretty much just took the rites and litany of their corrupt church and switched all the names and references around as part InsultBackfire and part TakeThat. Hence, their religious practices bear little resemblance to those commonly associated with Satanists in the media; the entire name is arguably a joke masquerading as a religion. As for their actual beliefs: The Archangels at some point decided they could run the universe better than God, and imprisoned him (which is also why evil happens, according to them; the Archangels are powerful and wise, but neither omnipotent, omniscient nor omnibenevolent). Lucifer tried to defend God, but failed and was cast out of Heaven. Now he sits in Hell, amassing his forces and biding his time until Armageddon, when he will lead his army into Heaven, defeat the Archangels and free God, who will then grant Lucifer's followers the Promised Land as a reward.
22nd Nov '17 5:31:41 PM SinDustries
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* In the ''Literature/PrinceRoger'' series by Creator/DavidWeber and Creator/JohnRingo, one important supporting character's ENTIRE RELIGION is based on this. The character's religion came about as a result of a religious purge war on her home planet, with everyone not in line with the CorruptChurch being labelled Satanists. Thinking that Satan can't be all that bad if the CorruptChurch was an example of God's wishes, they pretty much just took the rites and litany of their CorruptChurch and switched all the names and references around as part InsultBackfire and part TakeThat. Hence, their religious practices bear little resemblance to those commonly associated with Satanists in the media; the entire name is arguably a joke masquerading as a religion. As for their actual beliefs: The Archangels at some point decided they could run the universe better than God, and imprisoned him (which is also why evil happens, according to them; the Archangels are powerful and wise, but neither omnipotent, omniscient nor omnibenevolent). Lucifer tried to defend God, but failed and was cast out of Heaven. Now he sits in Hell, amassing his forces and biding his time until Armageddon, when he will lead his army into Heaven, defeat the Archangels and free God, who will then grant Lucifer's followers the Promised Land as a reward.

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* In the ''Literature/PrinceRoger'' series by Creator/DavidWeber and Creator/JohnRingo, one important supporting character's ENTIRE RELIGION is based on this. The character's religion came about as a result of a religious purge war on her home planet, with everyone not in line with the CorruptChurch Corrupt Church being labelled Satanists. Thinking that Satan can't be all that bad if the CorruptChurch corrupt church was an example of God's wishes, they pretty much just took the rites and litany of their CorruptChurch corrupt church and switched all the names and references around as part InsultBackfire and part TakeThat. Hence, their religious practices bear little resemblance to those commonly associated with Satanists in the media; the entire name is arguably a joke masquerading as a religion. As for their actual beliefs: The Archangels at some point decided they could run the universe better than God, and imprisoned him (which is also why evil happens, according to them; the Archangels are powerful and wise, but neither omnipotent, omniscient nor omnibenevolent). Lucifer tried to defend God, but failed and was cast out of Heaven. Now he sits in Hell, amassing his forces and biding his time until Armageddon, when he will lead his army into Heaven, defeat the Archangels and free God, who will then grant Lucifer's followers the Promised Land as a reward.
22nd Nov '17 4:13:02 PM SinDustries
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* In the Swedish comic ''Himlens Änglar'' by Jan Romare, the Devil is usually shown to be really bad at his job, his evil acts usually goes no farther than putting banana peels on the sidewalk for people to slip on. In one extended story ark, his background is explained in more detail and he even goes to therapy to handle his performance anxiety and general depression. The Devil there goes on to tell the psychiatrist how he started of as a regular angel but got more and more depressed and disenchanted of his boss God because of the various old testament-horrors he had to watch and take part in. The Devil then decided to go down to earth in order to speak directly to the humans and try to make them (and his boss) act a little better. He became known as Jesus and was unfortunately killed horribly before being sent back to heaven. God was really upset about his subordinate's behavior, because "now people will expect me to live up to all the nice things you told them about me", and as a punishment, he sent the Devil down to hell to become the Lord of Evil.

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* In the Swedish comic ''Himlens Änglar'' by Jan Romare, the Devil is usually shown to be really bad at his job, job; his evil acts usually goes go no farther than putting banana peels on the sidewalk for people to slip on. In one extended story ark, arc, his background is explained in more detail detail, and he even goes to therapy to handle his performance anxiety and general depression. The Devil there then goes on to tell the psychiatrist how he started of off as a regular angel but got more and more depressed and disenchanted of his boss with God because of the various old testament-horrors Old Testament horrors he had to watch and take part in. The Devil then decided to go down to earth in order to speak directly to the humans and try to make them (and his boss) act a little better. He became known as Jesus and was unfortunately killed horribly before being sent back to heaven. Heaven. God was really upset about his subordinate's behavior, because "now people will expect me to live up to all the nice things you told them about me", and as a punishment, he sent the Devil down to hell to become the Lord of Evil.
22nd Nov '17 4:07:02 PM SinDustries
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* In the French comic ''Professor Bell'', every 1000 years a Devil gets 7 days to break out of Jerusalem, if he succeeds he is free to wreak havoc across the Earth. The Devil from 1000 years ago was vanquished by priest-mages who created golems to stop him. Eventually he ended up locked in a pit where his only distraction was a ton of Bibles to read, and over the years has [[HeelFaceTurn turned]]... not exactly ''good'', but TrueNeutral at worst.

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* In the French comic ''Professor Bell'', every 1000 years thousand years, a Devil gets 7 seven days to break out of Jerusalem, and if he succeeds succeeds, he is free to wreak havoc across the Earth. The Devil from 1000 a thousand years ago was vanquished by priest-mages priest-mages, who created golems to stop him. Eventually Eventually, he ended up locked in a pit where his only distraction was a ton of Bibles to read, and over the years has [[HeelFaceTurn turned]]... not exactly ''good'', ''good'' but TrueNeutral at worst.
28th Oct '17 12:55:52 PM Actua11y
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* In ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4267279/1/Hero-High-Sphinx-Academy Hero High: Sphinx Academy]], the character [[GodIsEvil Lord]] often lampshades this trope. Once commenting on how he was the good guy since he has turned people to salt, fed them to whales and caused a flood to wipe out humanity. Then states Satan is evil because he punishes people who are evil. After finishing that sentence he openly asks "which one of us is the ''bad'' one again?"

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* In ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4267279/1/Hero-High-Sphinx-Academy Hero High: Sphinx Academy]], the character [[GodIsEvil Lord]] often lampshades {{Lampshades}} this trope. Once commenting on how he was the good guy since he has turned people to salt, fed them to whales and caused a flood to wipe out humanity. Then states Satan is evil because he punishes people who are evil. After finishing that sentence he openly asks "which one of us is the ''bad'' one again?"
14th Aug '17 12:43:54 AM JUANDELACRUZ
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* The {{Satan}} figure of Creator/JMichaelStraczynski's ''ComicBook/MidnightNation'' is not quite good but rather an AntiVillaion who works at undoing creation because of what he sees as the needless suffering and misery of those in it, and because God has refused to allow criticism of this.

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* The {{Satan}} figure of Creator/JMichaelStraczynski's ''ComicBook/MidnightNation'' is not quite good but rather an AntiVillaion AntiVillain who works at undoing creation because of what he sees as the needless suffering and misery of those in it, and because God has refused to allow criticism of this.
14th Aug '17 12:32:12 AM JUANDELACRUZ
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*** Even then, the First of the Fallen still manages to play this trope straight, as he was originally not evil at all but was actually the exact opposite: he was in fact God's own ''Conscience'', which held God back from releasing his full potential as the Creator of Everything (as God was inhibited in creating as he still felt guilty over creating anything negative), and was thus split apart by God himself into the first independent entity. God and the FOF gradually grew distant over their differences of opinion (such as the creation of free will inevitably leading to and resulting in suffering) until FOF was later finally banished from Heaven by God and thrown into Hell for accidentally coming across God in a most embarrassing moment [[spoiler: masturbating mindlessly while in a manic state complete with leering and drooling]]. Naturally aggrieved and embittered, FOF then resolved to both expose the Creator to the rest of Creation as being the original [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Madman]], as well as replace the rule of the regime of God in Heaven with what the FOF believed was a lucid alternative i.e. himself. Over the millennia, his endless war and power struggle against Heaven caused the FOF and his followers to eventually get [[MoralEventHorizon corrupted]] until they ultimately BecameTheirOwnAntithesis.

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*** Even then, the First of the Fallen still manages to play this trope straight, as he was originally not evil at all but was actually the exact opposite: he was in fact God's own ''Conscience'', which held God back from releasing his full potential as the Creator of Everything (as God was inhibited and hesitant in creating as he still felt guilty had reservations and doubts over creating anything negative), and was thus split apart by God himself into God, with FOF as the first independent entity. entity aside from God. God and the FOF gradually grew distant over their differences of opinion (such as the creation of free will inevitably leading to and resulting in misery and suffering) until FOF was later finally banished from Heaven by God and thrown into what later became Hell for accidentally coming across God in a most embarrassing moment [[spoiler: masturbating mindlessly while in a manic state complete with leering and drooling]]. Naturally aggrieved and embittered, FOF then resolved to both expose the Creator to the rest of Creation as being the original [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Madman]], as well as replace the rule of the regime of God in Heaven with what the FOF believed was a lucid alternative i.e. himself. Over the millennia, his endless war and power struggle against Heaven inevitably caused the FOF and his followers to eventually get [[MoralEventHorizon corrupted]] until they ultimately BecameTheirOwnAntithesis.BecameTheirOwnAntithesis. The FOF admits that he already [[HeelRealization realized]] at some point long ago that he had finally become the irredeemable monster which humans had always made him out to be, but it was John Constantine, using knowledge from human Satanic cults, who figured out at last the true nature of FOF as the former conscience of God.
13th Aug '17 9:34:06 PM JUANDELACRUZ
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*** Even then, the First of the Fallen still manages to play this trope straight, as he was originally not evil at all but was actually the exact opposite: he was in fact God's own ''Conscience'', which held God back from releasing his full potential as the Creator of Everything (as God was inhibited in creating as he still felt guilty over creating anything negative), and was thus split apart by God himself into the first independent entity. God and the FOF gradually grew distant over their differences of opinion (such as the creation of free will inevitably leading to and resulting in suffering) until FOF was later finally banished from Heaven by God and thrown into Hell for accidentally coming across God in a most embarrassing moment [[spoiler: masturbating mindlessly while in a manic state complete with leering and drooling]]. Naturally aggrieved and embittered, FOF then resolved to both expose the Creator to the rest of Creation as being the original [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Madman]], as well as replace the rule of the regime of God in Heaven with what the FOF believed was a lucid alternative i.e. himself. Over the millennia, his endless war and power struggle against Heaven caused the FOF and his followers to eventually get [[TheMoralEventHorizon corrupted]] until they ultimately BecameTheirOwnAntithesis.

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*** Even then, the First of the Fallen still manages to play this trope straight, as he was originally not evil at all but was actually the exact opposite: he was in fact God's own ''Conscience'', which held God back from releasing his full potential as the Creator of Everything (as God was inhibited in creating as he still felt guilty over creating anything negative), and was thus split apart by God himself into the first independent entity. God and the FOF gradually grew distant over their differences of opinion (such as the creation of free will inevitably leading to and resulting in suffering) until FOF was later finally banished from Heaven by God and thrown into Hell for accidentally coming across God in a most embarrassing moment [[spoiler: masturbating mindlessly while in a manic state complete with leering and drooling]]. Naturally aggrieved and embittered, FOF then resolved to both expose the Creator to the rest of Creation as being the original [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Madman]], as well as replace the rule of the regime of God in Heaven with what the FOF believed was a lucid alternative i.e. himself. Over the millennia, his endless war and power struggle against Heaven caused the FOF and his followers to eventually get [[TheMoralEventHorizon [[MoralEventHorizon corrupted]] until they ultimately BecameTheirOwnAntithesis.
13th Aug '17 9:32:09 PM JUANDELACRUZ
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** Even then, the First of the Fallen still manages to play this trope straight, as he was originally not evil at all but was actually the exact opposite: he was in fact God's own ''Conscience'', which held God back from releasing his full potential as the Creator of Everything (as God was inhibited as still felt guilty over creating anything negative), and was thus split apart by God himself into the first independent entity. God and the FOF gradually grew distant over their differences of opinion (such as the creation of free will inevitably leading to and resulting in suffering) until FOF was later finally banished from Heaven by God and thrown into Hell for accidentally coming across God in a most embarrassing moment [[spoiler: masturbating mindlessly while in a manic state complete with leering and drooling]]. Naturally aggrieved and embittered, FOF then resolved to both expose the Creator to the rest of Creation as being the original insane madman, as well as replace the rule of Heaven with what he believed was a humane alternative. Over the millennia, his endless war against Heaven caused the FOF and his followers to gradually get corrupted and degenerate until they ultimately BecameTheirOwnAntithesis.

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** *** Even then, the First of the Fallen still manages to play this trope straight, as he was originally not evil at all but was actually the exact opposite: he was in fact God's own ''Conscience'', which held God back from releasing his full potential as the Creator of Everything (as God was inhibited in creating as he still felt guilty over creating anything negative), and was thus split apart by God himself into the first independent entity. God and the FOF gradually grew distant over their differences of opinion (such as the creation of free will inevitably leading to and resulting in suffering) until FOF was later finally banished from Heaven by God and thrown into Hell for accidentally coming across God in a most embarrassing moment [[spoiler: masturbating mindlessly while in a manic state complete with leering and drooling]]. Naturally aggrieved and embittered, FOF then resolved to both expose the Creator to the rest of Creation as being the original insane madman, [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Madman]], as well as replace the rule of the regime of God in Heaven with what he the FOF believed was a humane alternative. lucid alternative i.e. himself. Over the millennia, his endless war and power struggle against Heaven caused the FOF and his followers to gradually eventually get corrupted and degenerate [[TheMoralEventHorizon corrupted]] until they ultimately BecameTheirOwnAntithesis.
13th Aug '17 9:22:06 PM JUANDELACRUZ
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* The {{Satan}} figure of Creator/JMichaelStraczynski's ''ComicBook/MidnightNation'' is not quite good but rather an AntiVillain who works at undoing creation because of what he sees as the needless suffering and misery of those in it, and because God has refused to allow criticism of this.

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** Even then, the First of the Fallen still manages to play this trope straight, as he was originally not evil at all but was actually the exact opposite: he was in fact God's own ''Conscience'', which held God back from releasing his full potential as the Creator of Everything (as God was inhibited as still felt guilty over creating anything negative), and was thus split apart by God himself into the first independent entity. God and the FOF gradually grew distant over their differences of opinion (such as the creation of free will inevitably leading to and resulting in suffering) until FOF was later finally banished from Heaven by God and thrown into Hell for accidentally coming across God in a most embarrassing moment [[spoiler: masturbating mindlessly while in a manic state complete with leering and drooling]]. Naturally aggrieved and embittered, FOF then resolved to both expose the Creator to the rest of Creation as being the original insane madman, as well as replace the rule of Heaven with what he believed was a humane alternative. Over the millennia, his endless war against Heaven caused the FOF and his followers to gradually get corrupted and degenerate until they ultimately BecameTheirOwnAntithesis.
* The {{Satan}} figure of Creator/JMichaelStraczynski's ''ComicBook/MidnightNation'' is not quite good but rather an AntiVillain AntiVillaion who works at undoing creation because of what he sees as the needless suffering and misery of those in it, and because God has refused to allow criticism of this.
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