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28th Dec '17 6:51:40 AM The_Void
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** The show also suggests that the Doctor himself may be Santa Claus.
-->Rose: "Look at you, dancing around like you're Father Christmas!"
-->Doctor: "Who says I'm not - red bicycle when you were twelve."
27th Nov '17 9:59:31 PM Kirayoshi
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* Played with on ''Series/{{Qi}}'', for their Season "K" Christmas episode, "Kris Kringle", when Stephen Fry asked "Why is Santa off the Rich List?" Brendan O'Carroll asked, "Could it be because ''(stage whisper)'' he may not be real?" The klaxon sounded and the words "HE ISN'T REAL" flashed on the screen. Phil Jupitus turned to the screen and fell to his knees in seeming despair, prompting Stephen Fry to assure him, "That got a klaxon so it can't be right!" and give him a hug. The Rich List, for the record, is an annual list assembled by Forbes Magazine of the richest fictional characters (that year's winners in ascending order were [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]], [[Series/TheBeverlyHillbillies Jed Clampett]], [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Carlisle Cullen]], [[ComicBook/ScroogeMcDuck Flintheart Glomgold]] and [[Literature/TheHobbit Smaug]]). Santa Claus had been on the Rich List before, but Forbes' editors decided that he didn't qualify because, in their opinion, he wasn't fictitious.

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* Played with on ''Series/{{Qi}}'', for their Season "K" Christmas episode, "Kris Kringle", when Stephen Fry asked "Why is Santa off the Rich List?" Brendan O'Carroll asked, "Could it be because ''(stage whisper)'' he may not be real?" The klaxon sounded and the words "HE ISN'T REAL" flashed on the screen. Phil Jupitus turned to the screen and fell to his knees in seeming despair, prompting Stephen Fry to assure him, "That got a klaxon so it can't be right!" and give him a hug. The Rich List, for the record, is an annual list assembled by Forbes Magazine of the richest fictional characters (that year's winners in ascending order were [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]], [[Series/TheBeverlyHillbillies Jed Clampett]], [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Carlisle Cullen]], [[ComicBook/ScroogeMcDuck [[ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse Flintheart Glomgold]] and [[Literature/TheHobbit Smaug]]). Santa Claus had been on the Rich List before, but Forbes' editors decided that he didn't qualify because, in their opinion, he wasn't fictitious.
27th Nov '17 9:58:16 PM Kirayoshi
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* Played with on ''Series/{{Qi}}'', for their Season "K" Christmas episode, "Kris Kringle", when Stephen Fry asked "Why is Santa off the Rich List?" Brendan O'Carroll asked, "Could it be because ''(stage whisper)'' he may not be real?" The klaxon sounded and the words "HE ISN'T REAL" flashed on the screen. Phil Jupitus turned to the screen and fell to his knees in seeming despair, prompting Stephen Fry to assure him, "That got a klaxon so it can't be right!" and give him a hug. The Rich List, for the record, is an annual list assembled by Forbes Magazine of the richest fictional characters (that year's winners in ascending order were [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]], [[Series/TheBeverlyHillbillies Jed Clampett]], [[Literature/{{Twilight}} Carlisle Cullen]], [[ComicBook/ScroogeMcDuck Flintheart Glomgold]] and [[Literature/TheHobbit Smaug]]). Santa Claus had been on the Rich List before, but Forbes' editors decided that he didn't qualify because, in their opinion, he wasn't fictitious.
26th Nov '17 9:24:03 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' has several episodes featuring Santa Claus... except instead of being a mythical jolly old man, he's an evil death machine that's frighteningly real.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' has several episodes featuring Santa Claus... except instead of being a mythical jolly old man, he's an evil death machine that's frighteningly real. The explanation is that they tried to build a real one, but it's standards were set too high and it has no sense of proportion.
10th Sep '17 10:25:41 AM nombretomado
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* PlayedWith and {{Inverted}} in ''WesternAnimation/MickeysOnceUponAChristmas''. After a talk with [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Pete]], [[CheerfulChild Max]] starts to doubt Santa's existence, and becomes even more convinced when he catches {{Goofy}} pretending to be him for some poor neighbor kids. The thing is, Goofy really ''does'' believe in Santa, and by the end, it's [[WackyParentSeriousChild Max who dresses up]] to restore his father's faith. Naturally, Santa actually flies by near the end, to their delight (and Pete's shock).

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* PlayedWith and {{Inverted}} in ''WesternAnimation/MickeysOnceUponAChristmas''. After a talk with [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Pete]], [[CheerfulChild Max]] starts to doubt Santa's existence, and becomes even more convinced when he catches {{Goofy}} WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}} pretending to be him for some poor neighbor kids. The thing is, Goofy really ''does'' believe in Santa, and by the end, it's [[WackyParentSeriousChild Max who dresses up]] to restore his father's faith. Naturally, Santa actually flies by near the end, to their delight (and Pete's shock).
8th Mar '17 4:50:19 PM AthenaBlue
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': [[Recap/DoctorWho2014CSLastChristmas "Last Christmas"]] zigzags this. Santa Claus is explicitly stated to be a dream construct trying to save the characters, who have been trapped in dreams by the MonsterOfTheWeek. He, however, admits that he exists in their belief. Then, at the end, [[spoiler:after everyone has woken up and the Doctor and Clara have taken off for more adventures, there's a shot of a tangerine, which Santa had earlier stated to be his "signature gift", on Clara's windowsill, adding a MaybeMagicMaybeMundane twist.]] And, of course, this isn't even mentioning that way back in [[Recap/DoctorWho2010CSAChristmasCarol "A Christmas Carol"]], the Eleventh Doctor claimed to have met Santa personally, and that he prefers to be called "Jeff".



* The ''Series/MurdochMysteries'' ChristmasEpisode "A Merry Murdoch Christmas" features a subplot about an old man with a white beard who claims to be Kris Kringle, and everyone's impatience with Constable Jackson who is very close to believing him. At the end of the episode, when the constabulary are handing presents to orphans, a whole stack of new presents shows up without anyone knowing where they came from, and Jackson and Dr Ogden briefly see Kringle in the crowd in full 19th century Santa outfit before he vanishes.



* The ''Series/MurdochMysteries'' ChristmasEpisode "A Merry Murdoch Christmas" features a subplot about an old man with a white beard who claims to be Kris Kringle, and everyone's impatience with Constable Jackson who is very close to believing him. At the end of the episode, when the constabulary are handing presents to orphans, a whole stack of new presents shows up without anyone knowing where they came from, and Jackson and Dr Ogden briefly see Kringle in the crowd in full 19th century Santa outfit before he vanishes.



* ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'': When Jade caught Jackie taking a tooth from her pillow, it not only made her stop believing in Tooth Fairy but also in SantaClaus. She learned otherwise about Santa when they had to save him from Daolong Wong. (Note: While Uncle already knew -- or at least believed -- Santa was real, he doesn't believe the same about the tooth fairy)



* ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'': When Jade caught Jackie taking a tooth from her pillow, it not only made her stop believing in Tooth Fairy but also in SantaClaus. She learned otherwise about Santa when they had to save him from Daolong Wong. (Note: While Uncle already knew -- or at least believed -- Santa was real, he doesn't believe the same about the tooth fairy)
4th Jan '17 7:22:52 PM N1KF
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* A commercial for M&Ms has Yellow wondering if Santa likes M&Ms, with an exasperated Red grumbling that he wouldn't know because he's "Never met the guy!" Suddenly, Santa comes barreling down the chimney, causing Red to exclaim in confused excitement "He does exist?!"... followed by Santa realizing the same thing about the M's. They both pass out, leaving a bewildered Yellow just standing there.

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* A commercial for M&Ms Advrtising/MAndMs has Yellow wondering if Santa likes M&Ms, with an exasperated Red grumbling that he wouldn't know because he's "Never met the guy!" Suddenly, Santa comes barreling down the chimney, causing Red to exclaim in confused excitement "He does exist?!"... followed by Santa realizing the same thing about the M's. They both pass out, leaving a bewildered Yellow just standing there.
14th Nov '16 1:12:17 PM StFan
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* Discussed in episode 2 of season 2 of ''Franchise/LoveLive^''. When the girls arrive at Maki's family home in the mountains for a song brainstorming session, the latter asks them not to use the chimney, partly because it's still too warm outside to use it, and partly because her father told her Santa won't visit if the chimney isn't kept clean. She then shows some writing and drawings from "Santa" inside the chimney, prompting Nico to laugh at her for still believing in Santa. However, the other girls don't want Maki's belief to be shattered, so they try to keep Nico quiet about it.

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* In the ''{{Clerks}}'' [[ChristmasEpisode Christmas special]], Randal is asked by a chubby, bearded man to find him some dwarf porn. Randal is about to refuse, ''knowing'' that this guy doesn't have an RST rental account... except that "Mr Nicholas" ''does'', and his address is an apparently unknown apartment between the two stores. Randal finds out the apartment leads to Santa's secondary toy-making workshop, and that the old guy is real after all (the dwarf porn is for the elves btw, so relax)! He gets some weebles and tries to score a Music/MotleyCrue denim jacket to win a bet against Dante... But later, Randal wakes up in the snow outside, and his head hurts. Turns out he was cold-clocked by another "block o' stores" employee, and that the apartment has been vacant for months, and the whole things was AllJustADream... Until Jay and Silent Bob come along, who trade him a blunt and a weeble... for the Motley Crue denim jacket Jay is now wearing.
* A ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' comic had Plastic Man telling Woozie Winks' nephew about how Santa was indeed real, and even a member of the JLA. His story is obviously bogus, as he relates the tale of how Santa helped beat Neron (One of [=DCs=] innumerable demons pretending to be {{Satan}}) while having the powers of flight and heat vision. Just as the little snot begins lampshading every detail ("If you guys were in Hell, why wasn't the fire hurting Martian Manhunter?"), Santa(!) comes flying by, and much to Plastic Man's shock, uses heat vision to burn "Merry Christmas!" into a nearby snowbank! The nephew goes to sleep, knowing Santa is near... Plastic Man meanwhile goes to relate this news to Woozie, completely in shock over it all. Turns out "Santa" was just Martian Manhunter, who, along with Green Lantern, was in the area and heard Plas's whole story because his signal device had been left on -- but then in the last panel, the ''real'' Santa makes an appearance, saying "Heat vision? The imagination of some people!"
** Apparently, the part about being a member of the JLA is true. He also [[{{Determinator}} breaks into Apokalips every year to give Darkseid a lump of coal]], and was killed by Lobo at one point. ([[DeathIsCheap like that'll stick]])

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* PlayedWith and {{Inverted}} in ''MickeysOnceUponAChristmas.'' After a talk with [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Pete]], [[CheerfulChild Max]] starts to doubt Santa's existence, and becomes even more convinced when he catches {{Goofy}} pretending to be him for some poor neighbor kids. The thing is, Goofy really ''does'' believe in Santa, and by the end, it's [[WackyParentSeriousChild Max who dresses up]] to restore his father's faith. Naturally, Santa actually flies by near the end, to their delight (and Pete's shock).

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* Discussed in episode 2 of season 2 of ''Franchise/LoveLive^''.''Franchise/LoveLive''. When the girls arrive at Maki's family home in the mountains for a song brainstorming session, the latter asks them not to use the chimney, partly because it's still too warm outside to use it, and partly because her father told her Santa won't visit if the chimney isn't kept clean. She then shows some writing and drawings from "Santa" inside the chimney, prompting Nico to laugh at her for still believing in Santa. However, the other girls don't want Maki's belief to be shattered, so they try to keep Nico quiet about it.

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* In the ''{{Clerks}}'' ''Film/{{Clerks}}'' [[ChristmasEpisode Christmas special]], Randal is asked by a chubby, bearded man to find him some dwarf porn. Randal is about to refuse, ''knowing'' that this guy doesn't have an RST rental account... except that "Mr Nicholas" ''does'', and his address is an apparently unknown apartment between the two stores. Randal finds out the apartment leads to Santa's secondary toy-making workshop, and that the old guy is real after all (the dwarf porn is for the elves btw, so relax)! He gets some weebles and tries to score a Music/MotleyCrue denim jacket to win a bet against Dante... But later, Randal wakes up in the snow outside, and his head hurts. Turns out he was cold-clocked by another "block o' stores" employee, and that the apartment has been vacant for months, and the whole things was AllJustADream... Until Jay and Silent Bob come along, who trade him a blunt and a weeble... for the Motley Crue denim jacket Jay is now wearing.
* A ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' ''Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'' comic had Plastic Man telling Woozie Winks' nephew about how Santa was indeed real, and even a member of the JLA. His story is obviously bogus, as he relates the tale of how Santa helped beat Neron (One of [=DCs=] innumerable demons pretending to be {{Satan}}) while having the powers of flight and heat vision. Just as the little snot begins lampshading every detail ("If you guys were in Hell, why wasn't the fire hurting Martian Manhunter?"), Santa(!) comes flying by, and much to Plastic Man's shock, uses heat vision to burn "Merry Christmas!" into a nearby snowbank! The nephew goes to sleep, knowing Santa is near... Plastic Man meanwhile goes to relate this news to Woozie, completely in shock over it all. Turns out "Santa" was just Martian Manhunter, who, along with Green Lantern, was in the area and heard Plas's whole story because his signal device had been left on -- but then in the last panel, the ''real'' Santa makes an appearance, saying "Heat vision? The imagination of some people!"
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people!" Apparently, the part about being a member of the JLA is true. He also [[{{Determinator}} breaks into Apokalips every year to give Darkseid a lump of coal]], and was killed by Lobo at one point. ([[DeathIsCheap like that'll stick]])

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* PlayedWith and {{Inverted}} in ''MickeysOnceUponAChristmas.'' ''WesternAnimation/MickeysOnceUponAChristmas''. After a talk with [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Pete]], [[CheerfulChild Max]] starts to doubt Santa's existence, and becomes even more convinced when he catches {{Goofy}} pretending to be him for some poor neighbor kids. The thing is, Goofy really ''does'' believe in Santa, and by the end, it's [[WackyParentSeriousChild Max who dresses up]] to restore his father's faith. Naturally, Santa actually flies by near the end, to their delight (and Pete's shock). \n\n[[AC: Film
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* ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'': When Jade caught Jackie taking a tooth from her pillow, it not only made her stop believing in Tooth Fairy but also in SantaClaus. She learned otherwise about Santa when they had to save him from Daolong Wong. (Note: While Uncle already knew - or at least believed - Santa was real, he doesn't believe the same about the tooth fairy)

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* ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'': When Jade caught Jackie taking a tooth from her pillow, it not only made her stop believing in Tooth Fairy but also in SantaClaus. She learned otherwise about Santa when they had to save him from Daolong Wong. (Note: While Uncle already knew - -- or at least believed - -- Santa was real, he doesn't believe the same about the tooth fairy)
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3rd Jul '16 3:11:15 AM Adept
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* In ''ErnestSavesChristmas'' Santa winds up in jail, though it's obvious it's him from the get-go: his fingerprints show up as snowflakes, he's able to bring out the good in people, knows things nobody else could, etc... but the rest of the adults don't want to believe. Except for Ernest P. Worrel, of course.
* Happens to Scott Calvin in ''TheSantaClause'', even though he spends the better part of his visit from St. Nick and successive trip to the North Pole trying to convince himself it's a joke and that he's deluded, respectively, completely blowing the false pretense he had made of believing in Santa.

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* In ''ErnestSavesChristmas'' ''Film/ErnestSavesChristmas'' Santa winds up in jail, though it's obvious it's him from the get-go: his fingerprints show up as snowflakes, he's able to bring out the good in people, knows things nobody else could, etc... but the rest of the adults don't want to believe. Except for Ernest P. Worrel, of course.
* Happens to Scott Calvin in ''TheSantaClause'', ''Film/TheSantaClause'', even though he spends the better part of his visit from St. Nick and successive trip to the North Pole trying to convince himself it's a joke and that he's deluded, respectively, completely blowing the false pretense he had made of believing in Santa.
20th Jun '16 10:56:30 PM gewunomox
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* In the ''{{Clerks}}'' [[ChristmasEpisode Christmas special]], Randal is asked by a chubby, bearded man to find him some dwarf porn. Randal is about to refuse, ''knowing'' that this guy doesn't have an RST rental account... except that "Mr Nicholas" ''does'', and his address is an apparently unknown apartment between the two stores. Randal finds out the apartment leads to Santa's secondary toy-making workshop, and that the old guy is real after all (the dwarf porn is for the elves btw, so relax)! He gets some weebles and tries to score a MotleyCrue denim jacket to win a bet against Dante... But later, Randal wakes up in the snow outside, and his head hurts. Turns out he was cold-clocked by another "block o' stores" employee, and that the apartment has been vacant for months, and the whole things was AllJustADream... Until Jay and Silent Bob come along, who trade him a blunt and a weeble... for the MotleyCrue denim jacket Jay is now wearing.

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* In the ''{{Clerks}}'' [[ChristmasEpisode Christmas special]], Randal is asked by a chubby, bearded man to find him some dwarf porn. Randal is about to refuse, ''knowing'' that this guy doesn't have an RST rental account... except that "Mr Nicholas" ''does'', and his address is an apparently unknown apartment between the two stores. Randal finds out the apartment leads to Santa's secondary toy-making workshop, and that the old guy is real after all (the dwarf porn is for the elves btw, so relax)! He gets some weebles and tries to score a MotleyCrue Music/MotleyCrue denim jacket to win a bet against Dante... But later, Randal wakes up in the snow outside, and his head hurts. Turns out he was cold-clocked by another "block o' stores" employee, and that the apartment has been vacant for months, and the whole things was AllJustADream... Until Jay and Silent Bob come along, who trade him a blunt and a weeble... for the MotleyCrue Motley Crue denim jacket Jay is now wearing.
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