History Main / SadlyMythtaken

18th Jan '17 2:55:30 PM margdean56
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* The Volkswagen Phaethon, [[JustifiedTrope although named after a certain type of carriages of and cars, instead of directly alluding to the mythological character]]. Phaethon was the son of the Greek sun god Helios, who tried out his father's sun chariot, but did totally lose control, caused quite a high amount of destruction, and got himself killed due to this [[OlderThanTheyThink very early case of reckless teenage driving]].

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* The Volkswagen Phaethon, [[JustifiedTrope although named after a certain type of carriages of and cars, instead of directly alluding to the mythological character]]. Phaethon was the son of the Greek sun god Helios, who tried out his father's sun chariot, but did totally lose lost control, caused quite a high amount of destruction, and got himself killed due to this [[OlderThanTheyThink very early case of reckless teenage driving]].



*** Sif's whole identity is predicated on her roles as fertility figure and Thor's wife: her very name is a word relating to familial ties (cognate to a plural Norse word for your inlaws, and Modern English sibling). And she's passive in the extant myths. (The hair thing may be a metaphor for farming: harvest this year's grain, and invest time and resources in the replacement crop, in which case she symbolises /soil/.) Having her fighting is even weirder than Aphrodite/Venus.

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*** Sif's whole identity is predicated on her roles as fertility figure and Thor's wife: her very name is a word relating to familial ties (cognate to a plural Norse word for your inlaws, and Modern English sibling). And she's passive in the extant myths. (The hair thing may be a metaphor for farming: harvest this year's grain, and invest time and resources in the replacement crop, in which case she symbolises /soil/.''soil''.) Having her fighting is even weirder than Aphrodite/Venus.



*** They also got some of his parentage wrong. Loki is known as Laufeysen in the original myths, but not because Laufey is his father like in the comics. Laufey is actually the name of his ''mother''. Loki has to use a matronymic rather than a patronymic because his father Farbaurti disowned him for being a midget (By Jotun standards).

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*** They also got some of his parentage wrong. Loki is known as Laufeysen in the original myths, but not because Laufey is his father like in the comics. Laufey is actually the name of his ''mother''. Loki has to use a matronymic rather than a patronymic because his father Farbaurti disowned him for being a midget (By (by Jotun standards).



* Franchise/MarvelUniverse versions of Ares and Achilles both mentions fighting side by side at Troy. In ''Literature/TheIliad'' Ares was in Trojan camp.
* Averted, though it's not obvious at first, in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''. Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias's mutant pet lynx is named Bubastis, presumably after the Egyptian goddess Bast. It's frequently assumed to be this trope, as Bast was the goddess and Bubastis was the name of the city sacred to her, but Veidt largely frames his Egyptian references through a Greek context, and the Greeks used the same name for the goddess as the city- much as Ozymandias itself is the Greek name for [[UsefulNotes/RamsesII Ramses The Great]].

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* Franchise/MarvelUniverse versions of Ares and Achilles both mentions mention fighting side by side at Troy. In ''Literature/TheIliad'' Ares was in the Trojan camp.
* Averted, though it's not obvious at first, in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''. Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias's mutant pet lynx is named Bubastis, presumably after the Egyptian goddess Bast. It's frequently assumed to be this trope, as Bast was the goddess and Bubastis was the name of the city sacred to her, but Veidt largely frames his Egyptian references through a Greek context, and the Greeks used the same name for the goddess as the city- much city--much as Ozymandias itself is the Greek name for [[UsefulNotes/RamsesII Ramses The Great]].
14th Jan '17 10:20:32 PM WaterBlap
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* ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'' uses TheFourGods, each assigned to a particular country, with his own virgin priestess and her guardians. While there really were deities named Suzaku, Seiryuu, Byakko, and Genbu in ChineseMythology, they were very minor deities. They did not have a whole religion devoted to them, nor did they have their own shrines/temples, or priestesses (virgin or otherwise). Rather, they were thought to have guardianship over a particular portion of the night sky and the constellations therein, and could be [[OddJobGods invoked for such things as fertility, or victory in war]]. As the setting is a FantasyCounterpartCulture of China, it would also be missing the fifth diety, the "Yellow Dragon" situated in the center.[[note]]Japanese cosmology only recognizes four.[[/note]]

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* ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'' uses TheFourGods, each assigned to a particular country, with his own virgin priestess and her guardians. While there really were deities named Suzaku, Seiryuu, Byakko, and Genbu in ChineseMythology, Myth/ChineseMythology, they were very minor deities. They did not have a whole religion devoted to them, nor did they have their own shrines/temples, or priestesses (virgin or otherwise). Rather, they were thought to have guardianship over a particular portion of the night sky and the constellations therein, and could be [[OddJobGods invoked for such things as fertility, or victory in war]]. As the setting is a FantasyCounterpartCulture of China, it would also be missing the fifth diety, the "Yellow Dragon" situated in the center.[[note]]Japanese cosmology only recognizes four.[[/note]]
14th Jan '17 10:04:27 PM WaterBlap
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* The two ''[[Film/{{Hercules1983}} Hercules]]'' movies from TheEighties starring Lou Ferrigno and produced by Creator/TheCannonGroup derive part of their SoBadItsGood appeal from how badly they mess up ClassicalMythology. The planets, moons, etc. derive from the fragments of the explosion of Pandora's ''Jar'', which serves as a big bang. (No actual Pandora appears.) The gods live on Earth's moon. Athena is a "fairy goddess" of witches who dresses, indeed, like a good fairy rather than a goddess of wisdom clad in armor. Hercules himself is a light being incarnated in the body of a human. The BigBad King Minos rules Atlantis and has imprisoned a phoenix. Daedalus is an embodiment of science who creates giant mechanical monsters -- and is female. This is an ''incomplete'' list of examples of this trope from ''just the first film''.

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* The two ''[[Film/{{Hercules1983}} Hercules]]'' movies from TheEighties starring Lou Ferrigno and produced by Creator/TheCannonGroup derive part of their SoBadItsGood appeal from how badly they mess up ClassicalMythology.Myth/ClassicalMythology. The planets, moons, etc. derive from the fragments of the explosion of Pandora's ''Jar'', which serves as a big bang. (No actual Pandora appears.) The gods live on Earth's moon. Athena is a "fairy goddess" of witches who dresses, indeed, like a good fairy rather than a goddess of wisdom clad in armor. Hercules himself is a light being incarnated in the body of a human. The BigBad King Minos rules Atlantis and has imprisoned a phoenix. Daedalus is an embodiment of science who creates giant mechanical monsters -- and is female. This is an ''incomplete'' list of examples of this trope from ''just the first film''.
12th Jan '17 3:06:24 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Related to the above, the fandom of ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', rather than the author, are widely guilty of this. Adaptations have {{flanderiz|ation}}ed sunlight into vampire kryptonite, but Mythology [[ScienceMarchesOn Marches On]], and Stoker's vampires are merely weaker in sunlight. The original Dracula is also destroyed by a knife through the heart rather than a stake. Sharp steel or iron objects like needles or knives are effective vampire kryptonite in Slavic mythology, yet adaptations, sequels, and even "scholarly" annotated versions of the novel jump on the lack of a wooden stake as proof that Dracula is NotQuiteDead.

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* Related to the above, the fandom of ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', rather than the author, are widely guilty of this. Adaptations have {{flanderiz|ation}}ed sunlight into vampire kryptonite, but Mythology [[ScienceMarchesOn Marches On]], and Stoker's vampires are merely weaker in sunlight. The original Dracula is also destroyed by a knife through the heart rather than a stake. Sharp [[ColdIron steel or iron objects like needles or knives knives]] are effective vampire kryptonite in Slavic mythology, yet adaptations, sequels, and even "scholarly" annotated versions of the novel jump on the lack of a wooden stake as proof that Dracula is NotQuiteDead.
12th Jan '17 5:22:37 AM justanid
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* That cherub on the valentine? Not a cherub. A cherub has four heads and a flaming sword.



* Any depiction of a cherub or other angel as a winged baby. Said winged babies are more accurately called putti and have no relevance to angels, but some how got consolidated and confused with cherubim. Said cherubim are actually [[OurAngelsAreDifferent rather monstrous]] [[EldritchAbomination in form]], with four faces, of an ox, a lion, a man and an eagle, four wings, and with many eyes covering its body, in and out. and one was given a flaming sword to guard the Garden of Eden with, which would be rather humorous if it really was a winged baby.

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* Any depiction of a cherub or other angel as a winged baby. Said winged babies are more accurately called putti [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putto putti]] and have no relevance to angels, but some how got consolidated and confused with cherubim. Said cherubim are actually [[OurAngelsAreDifferent rather monstrous]] [[EldritchAbomination in form]], with four faces, of an ox, a lion, a man and an eagle, four wings, and with many eyes covering its body, in and out. and one was given a flaming sword to guard the Garden of Eden with, which would be rather humorous if it really was a winged baby.
21st Dec '16 11:10:27 AM Xtifr
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* In ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'', the characters have names from [[Myth/CelticMythology Welsh mythology]], and like other HijackedByJesus examples, the name of the god of death is given to a Satanic character. Comparatively, the honorable Aragorn is named Gwydion, who was actually more like Loki/Hermes in the mythology. At least Creator/LloydAlexander admits he's playing fast and loose with the Welsh mythological canon. To quote him: "Prydain is not Wales--not entirely, at least. The inspiration for it comes from that magnificent land and its legends; but, essentially, Prydain is a country existing only in the imagination."

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* In ''Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain'', ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'', the characters have names from [[Myth/CelticMythology Welsh mythology]], and like other HijackedByJesus examples, the name of the god of death is given to a Satanic character. Comparatively, the honorable Aragorn is named Gwydion, who was actually more like Loki/Hermes in the mythology. At least Creator/LloydAlexander admits he's playing fast and loose with the Welsh mythological canon. To quote him: "Prydain is not Wales--not entirely, at least. The inspiration for it comes from that magnificent land and its legends; but, essentially, Prydain is a country existing only in the imagination."
14th Dec '16 1:32:03 PM TwilightLord
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** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', a creature that is clearly a chimera is labeled as a harpy.

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** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', a creature that is clearly a chimera is labeled as a harpy. However, this is a translation error; in Japanese, the creature is correctly identified as a Chimera.



** It's interesting with the weapon Ifrit. The weapon gives you control over fire, in addition to increasing your physical strength. Ifrit were known to be very extremely physically strong, and were considered to be demons, but the fire doesn't really fit unless it was a reference to ''[[Literature/ArabianNights One Thousand and One Nights]]'', where an Ifrit turns itself into fire when confronting a woman, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard only to be reduced to ashes as a result]]. FridgeBrilliance sets in when you realize that it was attempting to inflict the same fate on Dante by possessing him, but since he is, well, [[NighInvulnerability Dante]], he's able to resist it, and control it himself.


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* ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' gives the name Iblis to the mindless, destructive part of Solaris. In the myths, Iblis was a crafty, cunning and highly arrogant djinn (a being of fire), and essentially was the Devil in Islamic mythology, as Satan is in Christian mythology. His primary activity is to incite humans and djinni to commit evil through deception, which is essentially what Mephiles does in the game, rather than Iblis. The only thing they have in common is that they're both beings of fire.
2nd Dec '16 4:34:29 PM GM_3826
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* The notion of "foo dogs" is a Western misconception, based on the mis-identification of Chinese guardian ''lion'' spirits' statues as canine. The existence of several Asian dog breeds that were named for, and bred to resemble, such divine leonine protectors has only exacerbated the misconception. This one actually goes both ways at once. Lions were an outside, 'exotic' animal in ancient China (read: no one actually knew what they looked like), known about mainly from [[Myth/MesopotamianMythology other cultures']] mythic portrayals, so when depicting such creatures, Chinese artists would depict them using the features they [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith would naturally associate]] with such a [[ArtisticLicenseBiology noble, majestic four-legged guardian.]] (Besides, everyone knows [[MemeticMutation they're gerbils.]])

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* The notion of "foo dogs" is a Western misconception, based on the mis-identification of Chinese guardian ''lion'' spirits' statues as canine. The existence of several Asian dog breeds that were named for, and bred to resemble, such divine leonine protectors has only exacerbated the misconception. This one actually goes both ways at once. Lions were an outside, 'exotic' animal in ancient China (read: no one actually knew what they looked like), known about mainly from [[Myth/MesopotamianMythology other cultures']] mythic portrayals, so when depicting such creatures, Chinese artists would depict them using the features they [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith would naturally associate]] with such a [[ArtisticLicenseBiology noble, majestic four-legged guardian.]] (Besides, everyone knows [[MemeticMutation they're gerbils.]])they're]] [[VideoGame/{{Pokemon}} gerbils]].)
30th Nov '16 6:36:11 AM Mhazard
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* According to [[Literature/TheFourGospels Matthew's gospel]], Virgin Mary does not stay virgin ''after'' giving birth to Jesus, she does have union with Joseph (Matthew 1:25) and Jesus is said to have brothers (Matthew 12:46), in stark contrast to Catholic accounts.
20th Nov '16 4:38:42 AM ClatoLawa
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* Played for laughs in ''Russell Coight's Series/AllAussieAdventures'', when Russell tells a tour group a supposed Aboriginal dreamtime story, that somehow includes a fox (not native to Australia) and a three-eyed snake. His tourists point out the holes in it.
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