History Main / SacrificedBasicSkillforAwesomeTraining

17th Jun '18 7:11:21 PM Sharysa
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Racing Thoroughbred horses are among the fastest horses in the world, thanks to [[TheSpartanWay an incredibly rigid schedule to get them that way.]] They spend the vast majority of the day in their stall, with their only outdoors time being at the track, training for the track, or at the vet to make sure they're still healthy enough to train, so {{Retired|Badass}} or [[IncompletelyTrained rejected]] horses will take off at a gallop on anything ''remotely'' resembling a racetrack, and often just in the presence of other horses, because that's the only time they meet. The first thing that owners of former/rejected racehorses need to teach them is how to socialize without competing, and the second thing is basic riding cues that most full-grown horses know as a foundation for nearly EVERY other riding discipline, like "slow down" or "turn left/right."

to:

* Racing Thoroughbred horses are among the fastest horses in the world, thanks to [[TheSpartanWay an incredibly rigid schedule to get them that way.]] They spend the vast majority of the day in their stall, with their only outdoors time being at the track, training for the track, or [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment at the vet to make sure they're still healthy enough to train, train for the track,]] so {{Retired|Badass}} or [[IncompletelyTrained rejected]] horses will take off at a gallop on anything ''remotely'' resembling a racetrack, and often just in the presence of other horses, because that's the only time they meet. The first thing that owners of former/rejected racehorses ex-racehorses need to teach them is how to socialize without competing, and the second thing is basic riding cues that most full-grown grown horses know as a foundation for nearly EVERY other riding discipline, like discipline. Like "slow down" down," or "turn left/right."
7th Jun '18 11:11:50 PM jormis29
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Spycraft system, which runs primarily on skills and a skill-focus/proficiency system, hits this intentionally very, very hard. Not having full ranks in a skill places a flat cap on your total result, which can make advanced tasks literally impossible. Having no ranks in a skill lowers the cap to where it's barely possible to do basic tasks, and dramatically increases the likelihood of catastrophic failure. So players have to choose between extreme specialization and crippling mediocrity, with the first usually winning.

to:

* The Spycraft ''TabletopGame/{{Spycraft}}'' system, which runs primarily on skills and a skill-focus/proficiency system, hits this intentionally very, very hard. Not having full ranks in a skill places a flat cap on your total result, which can make advanced tasks literally impossible. Having no ranks in a skill lowers the cap to where it's barely possible to do basic tasks, and dramatically increases the likelihood of catastrophic failure. So players have to choose between extreme specialization and crippling mediocrity, with the first usually winning.
5th Jun '18 11:38:25 AM DavidDelony
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* This is sometimes the case with musicians who received formal educations at Berkeley or similarly prestigious institutions and then attempt to start or join bands with no formal band experience. They generally have all the technical knowledge and ability in the world, but they also frequently have no idea how to write a full-fledged song that sticks with the listener, an overly sterile and robotic feel because they never really developed one on their own (you can't exactly teach feel, after all), and no idea how to function in a band setting, which often leads to [[RevolvingDoorBand frequent turnover]] if they're the leader (as they often wind up being difficult to work with and/or are [[PrimaDonnaDirector egotistical assholes]]) and a steady stream of ejections if they're not (as they frequently try to take control of the band or just have trouble working with others in general).

to:

* This is sometimes the case with musicians who received formal educations at Berkeley Berklee or similarly prestigious institutions and then attempt to start or join bands with no formal band experience. They generally have all the technical knowledge and ability in the world, but they also frequently have no idea how to write a full-fledged song that sticks with the listener, an overly sterile and robotic feel because they never really developed one on their own (you can't exactly teach feel, after all), and no idea how to function in a band setting, which often leads to [[RevolvingDoorBand frequent turnover]] if they're the leader (as they often wind up being difficult to work with and/or are [[PrimaDonnaDirector egotistical assholes]]) and a steady stream of ejections if they're not (as they frequently try to take control of the band or just have trouble working with others in general).
30th May '18 12:58:11 AM azbyc15243
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Yoruka in ''LightNovel/UndefeatedBahamutChronicle'' is a master assassin, capable of slaughtering small armies on her own. But due to a combination of this trope and being ostracised for her killing instincts, she can't function as anything other than an assassin who serves someone else. She doesn't even try to socialise with her classmates and instead spends her time trying to protect her master from (other) assassins. More comedically, she doesn't know how to do basic housework, trying to use her katana to cut grass for example.
8th May '18 1:50:49 PM Jake
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** We also only have a fairly small sample set when it comes to wizards in the wider world, and both the primary examples do have some sort of excuse: Hagrid's job probably keeps him in and around Hogwarts and the neighbouring village, so he wouldn't get a lot of practice. Arthur comes off as more than a little absent-minded and his job heavily stresses the misuse part of Misuse of Muggle Artifacts, so he probably doesn't see a lot of mundane items in the first place.

to:

** We also only have a fairly small sample set when it comes to wizards in the wider world, and both the primary examples do have some sort of excuse: Hagrid's job probably keeps him in and around Hogwarts and the neighbouring village, so he wouldn't get a lot of practice. Arthur comes off as more than a little absent-minded (it's been speculated, with some good evidence, that he might be on the autistic spectrum) and his job heavily stresses the misuse part of Misuse of Muggle Artifacts, so he probably doesn't see a lot of mundane items in the first place.



** He also SUCKS at communicating with people without making them hate him. His only friend (Butler) is literally paid to be around him. And once puberty hit, he was quickly distracted by every girl he found pretty and struggled to keep his mind straight.

to:

** He also SUCKS at has extreme difficulty communicating with people without making them hate him.him, although that has less to do with this trope than [[InsufferableGenius his colossal arrogance and condescending attitude towards anyone he doesn't respect]], and the list of people he ''does'' respect can be counted on one hand. His only friend (Butler) is literally paid to be around him. And once puberty hit, he was quickly distracted by every girl he found pretty and struggled to keep his mind straight.
29th Apr '18 3:32:12 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Film/MarvelCinematicUniverse interprets Tony Stark as a guy smart enough to build the world's first function suit of PoweredArmor, but simultaneously too dumb to know his own social security number and too dense to buy remotely acceptable Christmas presents for his own girlfriend. In general, the films play up his total lack of normal human skills a lot more than the comics do, where he's brilliant but just an asshole.

to:

* The Film/MarvelCinematicUniverse Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse interprets Tony Stark as a guy smart enough to build the world's first function suit of PoweredArmor, but simultaneously too dumb to know his own social security number and too dense to buy remotely acceptable Christmas presents for his own girlfriend. In general, the films play up his total lack of normal human skills a lot more than the comics do, where he's brilliant but just an asshole.
26th Apr '18 9:30:14 AM Peteman
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* There's a fan theory regarding ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'' that while other Psychlos were learning how to SPELL THEIR NAMES, Turrell was being trained to conquer ''galaxies''. This has the reverse implication that Turrell was so busy learning how to conquer galaxies that he doesn't actually know how to spell his name (it was 'Terl' in the original). The sad thing is, he's not even all that good at conquering galaxies. As the ''Nostalgia Critic'' put it, he couldn't even conquer Rhode Island. Finally Turrell's latest clone shows some effectiveness, when he showed up in Angry Joe's XCOM review he handed him a comprehensive defeat as the head of the invaders. The real reason was copyright concerns, but the reviewers have heard of the theory and were amused by it.

to:

* There's a fan theory regarding ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'' that while other Psychlos were learning how to SPELL THEIR NAMES, Turrell was being trained to conquer ''galaxies''. This has the reverse implication that Turrell was so busy learning how to conquer galaxies that he doesn't actually know how to spell his name (it was 'Terl' in the original). The sad thing is, he's not even all that good at conquering galaxies. As the ''Nostalgia Critic'' put it, he couldn't even conquer Rhode Island. Finally Turrell's latest clone shows some effectiveness, when he showed up in Angry Joe's XCOM review he handed him a comprehensive defeat as the head of the invaders. The real reason was copyright concerns, but the reviewers have heard of the theory and were amused by it.
22nd Apr '18 11:08:50 PM StrixObscuro
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** For a specific example, there is Ranma's training in the Cat Fu school of martial arts. On the one hand, he gained access to a powerful feral attack style that allows him to tear through almost anything as if it were excelsior paper. On the other hand, the training gave him a crippling fear of ''cats''.



* ComicBook/{{Taskmaster}}'s ability to memorize fighting techniques simply by seeing them also has the downside of making him forget things unrelated to combat such as his memories or basic information. [[spoiler: This ability and its related downsides are passed onto his alleged daughter [[ComicBook/{{AvengersAcademy}} Finesse]]]]

to:

* ComicBook/{{Taskmaster}}'s ability to memorize fighting techniques simply by seeing them also has the downside of making him forget things unrelated to combat such as his memories or basic information. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This ability and its related downsides are passed onto his alleged daughter [[ComicBook/{{AvengersAcademy}} Finesse]]]]Finesse]]]].
22nd Apr '18 11:09:28 AM The17thImmortal
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'': Subtly played by the Masters of the Ryouzanpaku: Six masters of their own martial arts, all of them (except the oldest) are {{Socially Awkward Hero}}es: Akisame Koetsuji is a BrokenAce, Shio Sakaki is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, Apachai Hopachai is a ManChild, Shigure Kosaka has NoSocialSkills, Kensei Mai is a HenpeckedHusband that ran out on his family, all of them depend of Miu Furinji to run the dojo. All of them were reunited at the Dojo because they have not other place to go. Hayato Furinji claimed that Kenichi (TheHeart) united them in a true family.

to:

* ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'': Subtly played by the Masters of the Ryouzanpaku: Six masters of their own martial arts, all of them (except the oldest) are {{Socially Awkward Hero}}es: Akisame Koetsuji is a BrokenAce, Shio Sakaki is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, Apachai Hopachai is a ManChild, Shigure Kosaka has NoSocialSkills, Kensei Mai Ma is a HenpeckedHusband that who ran out on his family, all of them depend of Miu Furinji to run the dojo. All of them were reunited at the Dojo because they have not other place nowhere else to go. Hayato Furinji claimed that Kenichi (TheHeart) united them in a true family.



** A sadder example exists with the Oniwabanshu. Other than Aoshi, none of his four comrades had any skills that were applicable in a new era. This coupled with their grotesque appearances meant that they desired to only fight.

to:

** A sadder example exists with the Oniwabanshu. Other than Aoshi, none of his four remaining comrades had any skills that were applicable in a new era. This coupled with their grotesque appearances meant that fighting was the only thing they desired to only fight.were really capable of.
20th Apr '18 7:34:48 AM DocWildNole
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Franchise/DocSavage, GeniusBruiser, ProtoSuperhero, PulpMagazine stalwart and certified CharlesAtlasSuperpower Badass is one of the most learned men in the world in multitudinous fields of endeavor, but he never learned, or figured out, how to cook. Far more important, he spent approximately zero time with girls during his childhood and adolescence. As Creator/PhilipJoseFarmer notes in his bio of the great man, ''Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life:''

to:

* Franchise/DocSavage, GeniusBruiser, ProtoSuperhero, PulpMagazine stalwart {{Omniglot}}, GeniusBruiser OmnidisciplinaryScientist, and certified BadassNormal CharlesAtlasSuperpower Badass is one of the most learned men in the world in multitudinous fields of endeavor, but he ProtoSuperhero never learned, or figured out, how to cook. Far more important, he spent approximately zero time with girls during his childhood and adolescence. As Creator/PhilipJoseFarmer notes in his bio of the great man, ''Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life:''
This list shows the last 10 events of 476. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.SacrificedBasicSkillforAwesomeTraining