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16th Feb '17 10:29:24 AM creader
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' does this quite a lot. The Chrystal Gems, millenia-old protectors of Earth, sometimes still don't get basic human concepts. Some examples include:

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' does this quite a lot. The Chrystal Crystal Gems, millenia-old protectors of Earth, sometimes still don't get basic human concepts. Some examples include:
14th Feb '17 10:41:04 AM ZombieAladdin
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* Twilight Sparkle of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is the personal apprentice of Princess Celestia and is a wildly powerful and talented magic-user in her own right, but she has almost NoSocialSkills because she's a [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] introvert and spends too much time [[{{Bookworm}} studying]]. Celestia takes it upon herself to [[DefiedTrope do something about this before it's too late]], which actually becomes a framing device for the whole show. In the very first episode, Celestia sends Twilight Sparkle on an important mission that involves meeting and cooperating with five ponies with very diverse interests and personalities, hoping that Twilight Sparkle would learn the value of friendship. This series actually begins as a GenreDeconstruction of previous versions of MyLittlePony, but it [[DeconReconSwitch ultimately works out]].

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* Twilight Sparkle of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' is the personal apprentice of Princess Celestia and is a wildly powerful and talented magic-user in her own right, but she has almost NoSocialSkills because she's a [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] introvert and spends too much time [[{{Bookworm}} studying]]. Celestia takes it upon herself to [[DefiedTrope do something about this before it's too late]], which actually becomes a framing device for the whole show. In the very first episode, Celestia sends Twilight Sparkle on an important mission that involves meeting and cooperating with five ponies with very diverse interests and personalities, hoping that Twilight Sparkle would learn the value of friendship. This series actually begins as a GenreDeconstruction of previous versions of MyLittlePony, but it [[DeconReconSwitch ultimately works out]]. It's worth mentioning there are at least three other characters who chose to continue to do nothing but study: Moondancer became a recluse for four seasons who grew hostile to her former acquaintances, Sunset Shimmer went to another realm and covertly took it over spending her time destroying others' friendships, and Starlight Glimmer formed a cult so she could always feel like she's in total control. Celestia saw the dangers in what they had become and was afraid Twilight would become like them.



* Unfortunately, this is often TruthInTelevision: many [[ChildProdigy child prodigies]] tend to practise and hone their skills and allocate all their resources on their skills that they neglect some very basic aspects on growth into a fully-socialized person.

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* Unfortunately, this is often TruthInTelevision: many [[ChildProdigy child prodigies]] tend to practise and hone their skills and allocate all their resources on their skills that they neglect some very basic aspects on growth into a fully-socialized person. This is particularly true in regions or education programs that focus on good grades and high test scores, such as the Advanced Placement system, as they spend almost all of their time teaching students in how to do well academically. In more intense cases, the time the students would normally spend socializing, like during lunch or after school, is taken up by further studying. It has become an issue as of the 2010's, with growing awareness of people graduating from universities and having ''no idea'' what to do next, as they were only taught how to receive that degree without being told what to do with it or what employers want.
26th Jan '17 11:09:52 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series, the entire Second Foundation did this; they didn't develop any new advances in technology or the physical sciences, or even preserve most of the existing ones, instead focusing exclusively on developing psychohistory. As a result, they can pretty much control people's minds and can predict the future with astonishing accuracy, but they can't defend themselves against physical attack--which is why they have to stay hidden.
** And which is why, every hundred years or so, they must scramble to mind-wipe yet another person who threatens to develop an [[NoSell anti-psychic field]], which, in-universe, is slightly less complicated that [[ScienceMarchesOn a button-and-a-dial remote control]].

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* In Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series, the entire Second Foundation did this; they didn't develop any new advances in technology or the physical sciences, or even preserve most of the existing ones, instead focusing exclusively on developing psychohistory. As a result, they can pretty much control people's minds and can predict the future with astonishing accuracy, but they can't defend themselves against physical attack--which is why they have to stay hidden.
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hidden. And which is why, every hundred years or so, they must scramble to mind-wipe yet another person who threatens to develop an [[NoSell anti-psychic field]], which, in-universe, is slightly less complicated that [[ScienceMarchesOn a button-and-a-dial remote control]].
26th Jan '17 8:15:47 AM LordInsane
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* In third edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', wizards can do this by specializing in a single school of magic. This gives them the ability to cast more spells of that school but they become completely unable to use two other schools of magic.

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* In third edition ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', wizards can do this by specializing in a single school of magic. This gives them the ability to cast more spells of that school but they become completely unable to use two other schools of magic.magic (one, for diviners). Specialists were present in 2E as well, were they were even more stinging by having ''set'' opposition schools (3E specialists get to choose which two schools they can't use).
** The 3E ''Unearthed Arcana'' collection of variant rules subtly discouraged this trope as a general, non-class-specific thing -- the book had two 'lose ability in something to gain ability in other' systems, flaws (gain a drawback in exchange for a feat) and traits (gain a drawback in exchange for a thematically related boost). The flaws consistently were based on physical and mental attributes, with training and learning showing up in the traits -- meaning that illiteracy was worth +1 to one skill, no more and nothing else (and since skills often ''were'' basic skills in the sense of this trope, it could equally well represent Sacrificed Awesome Skill for Basic Training for a commoner, given the usual pseudo-medieval setting).
16th Jan '17 2:46:46 PM Nintendoman01
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** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.

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** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon powerful Pokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.



* ''Anime/BloodPlus'' has the Schiff. As prototype {{Super Soldiers}}, they're deadly warriors, but due to their upbringing as living weapons, they have NoSocialSkills whatsoever; even something as simple as simply asking for help or something they need rather than taking it by force is an alien concept to them.

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* ''Anime/BloodPlus'' has the Schiff. As prototype {{Super Soldiers}}, they're deadly warriors, but due to their upbringing as living weapons, they have NoSocialSkills whatsoever; even something as simple as simply asking for help or something they need rather than taking it by force is an alien concept to them.
24th Dec '16 6:15:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* Franchise/DocSavage, GeniusBruiser, righter of wrongs, and certified BadAss with CharlesAtlasSuperpower is one of the most learned men in the world in several fields of endeavor, but he never figured out how to cook.

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* Franchise/DocSavage, GeniusBruiser, righter of wrongs, and certified BadAss badass with CharlesAtlasSuperpower is one of the most learned men in the world in several fields of endeavor, but he never figured out how to cook.



* Most player characters of modern video games that are heavy on scripting, especially the ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' series. For example, Soap, from ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare''. [[BadAss Highly trained SAS operator.]] [[OneManArmy Can shred through dozens of baddies in a matter of minutes.]] [[InsurmountableWaistHighFence Cannot open a door.]]

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* Most player characters of modern video games that are heavy on scripting, especially the ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' series. For example, Soap, from ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare''. [[BadAss Highly trained SAS operator.]] operator. [[OneManArmy Can shred through dozens of baddies in a matter of minutes.]] [[InsurmountableWaistHighFence Cannot open a door.]]
22nd Dec '16 8:04:50 AM AnotherDuck
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*** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.

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*** ** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.



* Shichika from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}'' spent his entire life training under his father to master Kyotoryuu on a deserted island. At the start of the series he has absolutely no knowledge of the outside world and can't even pick up the differences between other people. This seems to have been intentional on his father's part; a Kyotoryuu master is supposed to be a sword (not a swordsman) with no will of his own that someone else wields. Most of Shichika's CharacterDevelopment has him realizing that he is still a human and has a will of his own. Another side effect of Shichika's training is that he is completely unable to wield swords. This becomes an issue in episode 9 since the owner of that episode's Deviant blade is a kendo master who refuses to duel Shichika unless he is also armed and armored.
** At the last episodes, we discover that this trope is exaggerated: Shichika was the last product of an AncientConspiracy, the Kyotouryuu, the No Sword School, that wants to create the perfect swordman (a man so powerful that donít need swords anymore), and he is the seventh generation of a school that had made the practicing of this martial art the principal motive of their lives. That means that Sinichika is the last generation of five guys, each of them who were educated by a father who SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, meaning each generation had more and more NoSocialSkills.

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* Shichika from ''LightNovel/{{Katanagatari}}'' spent his entire life training under his father to master Kyotoryuu on a deserted island. At the start of the series he has absolutely no knowledge of the outside world and can't even pick up the differences between other people. This seems to have been intentional on his father's part; a Kyotoryuu master is supposed to be a sword (not a swordsman) with no will of his own that someone else wields. Most of Shichika's CharacterDevelopment has him realizing that he is still a human and has a will of his own. Another side effect of Shichika's training is that he is completely unable to wield swords. This becomes an issue in episode 9 since the owner of that episode's Deviant blade is a kendo master who refuses to duel Shichika unless he is also armed and armored.
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armored. At the last episodes, we discover that this trope is exaggerated: Shichika was the last product of an AncientConspiracy, the Kyotouryuu, the No Sword School, that wants to create the perfect swordman (a man so powerful that donít need swords anymore), and he is the seventh generation of a school that had made the practicing of this martial art the principal motive of their lives. That means that Sinichika Shichika is the last generation of five guys, each of them who were educated by a father who SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining, meaning each generation had more and more NoSocialSkills.
19th Dec '16 1:46:46 AM Nintendoman01
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** Used well with characterization when Ash and Pkachu take on Lt. Surge and Raichu. After losing, Ash gets a Thunder Stone, allowing him to evolve Pikachu at any time with it, but Pikachu vehemently refuses to evolve to match Raichu. Turns out that in Lt. Surge's haste to evolve his Pikachu into a Raichu, it didn't learn basic attacks (especially ones involving speed). Bulbasaur and Squirtle also adopt this philosophy, but contrast Charizard who evolved as quickly as possible because of its low self-esteem. It ends up leaving Ash to train because it is ''relatively weak'', while Bulbasaur and Squirtle lead Pokemon teams with more advanced Pokemon following ''them''.
*** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerful pokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.

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** Used well with characterization when Ash and Pkachu Pikachu take on Lt. Surge and Raichu. After losing, Ash gets a Thunder Stone, allowing him to evolve Pikachu at any time with it, but Pikachu vehemently refuses to evolve to match Raichu. Turns out that in Lt. Surge's haste to evolve his Pikachu into a Raichu, it didn't learn basic attacks (especially ones involving speed). Bulbasaur and Squirtle also adopt this philosophy, but contrast Charizard who evolved as quickly as possible because of its low self-esteem. It ends up leaving Ash to train because it is ''relatively weak'', while Bulbasaur and Squirtle lead Pokemon teams with more advanced Pokemon following ''them''.
*** Though Charizard's a bit more complicated. While it did evolve early, it remains as Ash's most powerful pokemon powerfulPpokemon throughout just about the entire series. It's weakness compared to other Charizard is more attributed to the facts that A. It flat out refused to battle/train for most of it's time with Ash, and B. The Charizard it's compared to spend ALL their time in brutal training with other Charizard. After Ash's Charizard spends some time training, it briefly comes back and ''beats a [[OlympusMons Legendary Pokemon]] in a one-on-one battle''.


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* ''Anime/BloodPlus'' has the Schiff. As prototype {{Super Soldiers}}, they're deadly warriors, but due to their upbringing as living weapons, they have NoSocialSkills whatsoever; even something as simple as simply asking for help or something they need rather than taking it by force is an alien concept to them.
12th Dec '16 9:04:37 PM aerojockey
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Series/MarriedWithChildren''. In one episode Al trains Kelly to learn a bunch of sports trivia for a quiz show, and during the TrainingMontage we see basic life skills (like "Dinner first, then sex") literally exiting her brain.
12th Nov '16 1:59:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* Vince of ''Literature/SuperPowereds'', thanks to his homeless childhood and strange upbringing. Survival skills? Good enough. Fighting? got that [[{{Badass}} in spades]]. Social skills? [[NoSocialSkills minimal]]. operating basic appliances? Not a clue. There's also Chad, arguably the best fighter in the class, whose every thought is focused on training to be the very best he can be. Even his mother is concerned that he has no actual friends but a number of ''sparring partners''. He actually uses his "total control" power to prevent himself from sensing any emotions towards others until later, when he becomes curious. Vince's friends note that he and Chad are the same in the NoSocialSkills respect, as well as their general obtuseness to {{Double Entendre}}s (Chad tells Vince that a girl has invited him to a club only to avoid inviting someone who would grope her all night long, and both accept it at face value; the others wonder how it's possible to be this dense for not one but two people).

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* Vince of ''Literature/SuperPowereds'', thanks to his homeless childhood and strange upbringing. Survival skills? Good enough. Fighting? got that [[{{Badass}} in spades]].spades. Social skills? [[NoSocialSkills minimal]]. operating basic appliances? Not a clue. There's also Chad, arguably the best fighter in the class, whose every thought is focused on training to be the very best he can be. Even his mother is concerned that he has no actual friends but a number of ''sparring partners''. He actually uses his "total control" power to prevent himself from sensing any emotions towards others until later, when he becomes curious. Vince's friends note that he and Chad are the same in the NoSocialSkills respect, as well as their general obtuseness to {{Double Entendre}}s (Chad tells Vince that a girl has invited him to a club only to avoid inviting someone who would grope her all night long, and both accept it at face value; the others wonder how it's possible to be this dense for not one but two people).
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