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26th Nov '16 11:39:47 AM dmcreif
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* ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' features Russian mobsters Anatoly and Vladimir Ranskahov who catch very few breathers during their arc, which culminates in one of them [[spoiler:having his head literally crushed into pulp]] and the other [[spoiler:dying a slow RasputinianDeath that ends with a HeroicSacrifice.]]

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* ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' features Russian mobsters Anatoly and Vladimir Ranskahov who catch very few breathers during their arc, which culminates in one of them [[spoiler:having his head literally crushed into pulp]] and Wilson Fisk killing the other [[spoiler:dying former by beating him unconscious then decapitating him with a car door, while the latter dies a slow RasputinianDeath that ends with him getting shot to death by a HeroicSacrifice.]]corrupt ESU team.
3rd Nov '16 1:30:02 PM Arcanis
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**** That's not exactly it, of course... Kinda worse. The line, ''"kakoy tankista byl konets"'', is, very literally, "what was the tankman's end". So naturally it's about a manner of one's death. However, "konets" is also sometimes used for the meaning mentioned above (picture the end of the rope), in which case "what" would likely indeed mean size... Right, even Russian DoubleEntendre parallels cock with life's finale.
1st Nov '16 7:09:03 AM Nautilus1
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Surprisingly, this is also justified from Russians' point of view. The fact is, traditional Russian culture has a generous amount of self-pity, even ''taking pride'' in enduring hardships, to the point of (most subconsciously, it's that deep) ''creating ones for oneself'' if there are none around.

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Surprisingly, this is also justified from Russians' point of view. The fact is, traditional Russian culture has a generous amount of self-pity, even ''taking pride'' [[TheSpartanWay in enduring hardships, hardships]], to the point of (most subconsciously, it's that deep) ''creating ones for oneself'' if there are none around.
1st Nov '16 7:08:19 AM Nautilus1
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The reasons for this trope may originate from what most Westerners assume actual Russians have been through, having lived under an EvilEmpire[[note]]which is in practice at least two {{Evil Empire}}s, since Tsarist Russia did not resemble a Heaven on Earth even remotely, and the U.S.S.R. is no workers paradise itself[[/note]]; [[SarcasmMode thus, any fictional suffering they might endure can't compare to what they've gotten in real life]]. In short, they're AcceptableTargets through being "overqualified".

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The reasons for this trope may originate from what most Westerners assume actual Russians have been through, having lived under an EvilEmpire[[note]]which is in practice at least two {{Evil Empire}}s, since Tsarist Russia did not resemble a Heaven on Earth even remotely, and the U.S.S.R. is no workers paradise itself[[/note]]; itself; [[RunningGag even a third]] {{Evil Empire}} when counting the 1237-1480 Mongol Conquest[[/note]]; [[SarcasmMode thus, any fictional suffering they might endure can't compare to what they've gotten in real life]]. In short, they're AcceptableTargets through being "overqualified".
17th Oct '16 5:39:30 PM DLC1
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** For Russians themselves, there's the [[DirtyCommunists communist]] years, the TsaristRussia years, the [[FromBadToWorse Mongol years]], and so on, and so on, and so on -- although each is the subject of BrokenBase in the country. The communist era is '''not''' inherently better or worse than any of the others, just as nasty, brutish and long.

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** For Russians themselves, there's the [[DirtyCommunists communist]] years, the TsaristRussia years, the [[FromBadToWorse Mongol years]], and so on, and so on, and so on -- although each is the subject of BrokenBase in the country. The communist era is '''not''' inherently better or worse than any of the others, just as nasty, brutish and long.
16th Oct '16 11:45:55 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The recurring character of Olya Povlatsky on ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'', played by Creator/KateMcKinnon as a Russian peasant woman who, among other things, has compared [[Literature/TheHungerGames District 12]] to her village's wealthy neighborhood and has described her WorldWarIII drill as running out into a field and begging for the bomb to kill her.
1st Sep '16 2:35:41 AM kazokuhouou
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* In ''[[Series/TheManFromUncle The Man From U.N.C.L.E.'' Illya Kuryakin tends to spend a lot of time chained up and tortured. However, in the fourth season it's downplayed as his American partner Napoleon gets tortured more instead. Hell, in one episode it's ''inverted'': an in disguise Illya, in order to maintain his cover, has to torture Napoleon. Fanfiction revolving around this scene still tends to play it straight too.

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* In ''[[Series/TheManFromUncle The Man From U.N.C.L.E.'' ]]'' Illya Kuryakin tends to spend a lot of time chained up and tortured. However, in the fourth season it's downplayed as his American partner Napoleon gets tortured more instead. Hell, in one episode it's ''inverted'': an in disguise Illya, in order to maintain his cover, has to torture Napoleon. Fanfiction revolving around this scene still tends to play it straight too.
1st Sep '16 2:34:48 AM kazokuhouou
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* The film version of ''[[Film/TheManFromUNCLE2015 The Man From U.N.C.L.E.]]'s Illya has the most tragic backstory of the protagonists (father was arrested and sent to a gulag, mother...[[SexForServices got friendly with dad's old friends]]), gets his father's watch stolen, and watches the woman he fell in love with [[spoiler: betray him and Napoleon to fascists]]. And even when he finds out [[spoiler: Gaby was actually a double agent and GoodAllAlong]], he's given orders to get sensitive information at any cost, even if it means killing Napoleon, a man he's come to respect. [[spoiler: When Napoleon gives Illya back the stolen watch (that he found on a mook), they decide to burn the information together and join U.N.C.L.E.]]

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* The film version of ''[[Film/TheManFromUNCLE2015 The Man From U.N.C.L.E.]]'s ]]'''s Illya has the most tragic backstory of the protagonists (father was arrested and sent to a gulag, mother...[[SexForServices got friendly with dad's old friends]]), gets his father's watch stolen, and watches the woman he fell in love with [[spoiler: betray him and Napoleon to fascists]]. And even when he finds out [[spoiler: Gaby was actually a double agent and GoodAllAlong]], he's given orders to get sensitive information at any cost, even if it means killing Napoleon, a man he's come to respect. [[spoiler: When Napoleon gives Illya back the stolen watch (that he found on a mook), they decide to burn the information together and join U.N.C.L.E.]]
1st Sep '16 2:34:25 AM kazokuhouou
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* The film version of ''[[Film/TheManFromUNCLE2015 The Man From U.N.C.L.E.]]'s Illya has the most tragic backstory of the protagonists (father was arrested and sent to a gulag, mother...[[SexForServices got friendly with dad's old friends]]), gets his father's watch stolen, and watches the woman he fell in love with [[spoiler: betray him and Napoleon to fascists]]. And even when he finds out [[spoiler: Gaby was actually a double agent and GoodAllAlong]], he's given orders to get sensitive information at any cost, even if it means killing Napoleon, a man he's come to respect. [[spoiler: When Napoleon gives Illya back the stolen watch (that he found on a mook), they decide to burn the information together and join U.N.C.L.E.]]



* In ''Series/TheManFromUncle'' Illya Kuryakin seemed to spend a lot of time chained up and tortured.

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* In ''Series/TheManFromUncle'' ''[[Series/TheManFromUncle The Man From U.N.C.L.E.'' Illya Kuryakin seemed tends to spend a lot of time chained up and tortured.tortured. However, in the fourth season it's downplayed as his American partner Napoleon gets tortured more instead. Hell, in one episode it's ''inverted'': an in disguise Illya, in order to maintain his cover, has to torture Napoleon. Fanfiction revolving around this scene still tends to play it straight too.
19th Aug '16 5:25:53 PM Mullon
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* Iosif Nichayko, head of the Russian counterpart to the ComicBook/BPRD, the Special Science Srvices, has it bad even for a cast facing TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. Iosif was a Soviet soldier in 1946 who hoped to get married someday and have kids and grand kids. Instead he died after the submarine he was on sank and he got resurrected as a mindless zombie, guarding a magical suit of armor until his corpse is dragged by to headquarters. He regains his intelligence, imprisons his boss (a malevolent demon) in a bell jar, and takes of the SSS. Then the apocalypse happens, and he has to protect Russia from giant monsters while he former boss taunts him with threats of horrible suffering if she escapes. All the poor guy wants is to finally die but he knows he can't until Russia is safe.

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* Iosif Nichayko, head of the Russian counterpart to the ComicBook/BPRD, ComicBook/{{BPRD}}, the Special Science Srvices, has it bad even for a cast facing TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. Iosif was a Soviet soldier in 1946 who hoped to get married someday and have kids and grand kids. Instead he died after the submarine he was on sank and he got resurrected as a mindless zombie, guarding a magical suit of armor until his corpse is dragged by to headquarters. He regains his intelligence, imprisons his boss (a malevolent demon) in a bell jar, and takes of the SSS. Then the apocalypse happens, and he has to protect Russia from giant monsters while he former boss taunts him with threats of horrible suffering if she escapes. All the poor guy wants is to finally die but he knows he can't until Russia is safe.
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