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21st Jun '18 3:49:10 PM StarSword
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\n* Actually {{subverted}} in ''LightNovel/MuvLuvAlternativeTotalEclipse''. On the one hand, the Soviet Union has been mostly overrun by BETA, currently only holding onto the Kamchatka Peninsula, with a refugee population and Soviet GovernmentInExile resettled in Alaska. On the other hand, the people resettled in the United States are mostly ethnic Russians whereas it's mostly non-Russian Soviets fighting in Kamchatka, e.g. Georgians and Kazakhs, and they ''hate'' the fact that the conquered peoples of the USSR got off even worse than the Russians did.
12th Jun '18 6:19:01 PM DrFraud
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Another reason for the trope's popularity in the West is some Russian classical works, particularly Creator/FyodorDostoevsky, who remains the best-known Russian author among Westerners, and who was really fond of religious traditionalism and the Orthodoxy-inspired idea of "[[MiseryBuildsCharacter redemption through suffering and penance]]". Other well-known writers don't exactly break the stereotype either, with works from many late-[[TsaristRussia Tsarist]] writers (such as Creator/NikolaiGogol or Creator/AntonChekhov) frequently including some mixture of both {{Tragedy}} and BlackComedy. However, since the 1990s (i. e. the collapse of the Soviet state), and especially with the emergence of globalization and the digital age the trend seems to be drastically changing: nowadays' Russians have little interest in enduring hardships, preferring to enjoy the luxuries of the global world. Therefore the trope is on its way to becoming a [[DiscreditedTrope discredited one]].

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Another reason for the trope's popularity in the West is some Russian classical works, particularly Creator/FyodorDostoevsky, who remains the best-known Russian author among Westerners, and who was really fond of religious traditionalism and the Orthodoxy-inspired idea of "[[MiseryBuildsCharacter redemption through suffering and penance]]". Other well-known writers don't exactly break the stereotype either, with works from many late-[[TsaristRussia Tsarist]] writers (such as Creator/NikolaiGogol or Creator/AntonChekhov) frequently including some mixture of both {{Tragedy}} and BlackComedy. However, since the 1990s (i. e. the collapse of the Soviet state), and especially with the emergence of globalization and the digital age the trend seems to be drastically changing: nowadays' today's Russians have little interest in enduring hardships, preferring to enjoy the luxuries of the global world. Therefore the trope is on its way to becoming a [[DiscreditedTrope discredited one]].
12th Jun '18 6:17:55 PM DrFraud
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Another reason for the trope's popularity in the West is some Russian classical works, particularly Creator/FyodorDostoevsky, who remains the best-known Russian author among Westerners, and who was really fond of religious traditionalism and the Orthodoxy-inspired idea of "[[MiseryBuildsCharacter redemption through suffering and penance]]". Other well-known writers don't exactly break the stereotype either, with works from many late-[[TsaristRussia Tsarist]] writers (such as Creator/NikolaiGogol or Creator/AntonChekhov) frequently include some mixture of both {{Tragedy}} and BlackComedy. However, since the 1990s (i. e. the collapse of the Soviet state), and especially with the emergence of globalization and the digital age the trend seems to be drastically changing: nowadays' Russians have little interest in enduring hardships, preferring to enjoy the luxuries of the global world. Therefore the trope is on its way to becoming a [[DiscreditedTrope discredited one]].

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Another reason for the trope's popularity in the West is some Russian classical works, particularly Creator/FyodorDostoevsky, who remains the best-known Russian author among Westerners, and who was really fond of religious traditionalism and the Orthodoxy-inspired idea of "[[MiseryBuildsCharacter redemption through suffering and penance]]". Other well-known writers don't exactly break the stereotype either, with works from many late-[[TsaristRussia Tsarist]] writers (such as Creator/NikolaiGogol or Creator/AntonChekhov) frequently include including some mixture of both {{Tragedy}} and BlackComedy. However, since the 1990s (i. e. the collapse of the Soviet state), and especially with the emergence of globalization and the digital age the trend seems to be drastically changing: nowadays' Russians have little interest in enduring hardships, preferring to enjoy the luxuries of the global world. Therefore the trope is on its way to becoming a [[DiscreditedTrope discredited one]].
2nd Jun '18 7:53:19 PM TheNerevarine
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* ''Film/DawnOfTheDead2004'': Luda is a Russian woman in the middle of the zombie apocalypse while she is ''[[ImperiledInPregnancy pregnant no less]]''. No points for guessing what happens to her: [[spoiler:gets bitten by a zombie, dies in labor and both her and her child turn into zombies, with the others being forced to put them down]]. She practically a "imminent misery" sign written on her.

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* ''Film/DawnOfTheDead2004'': Luda is a Russian woman in the middle of the zombie apocalypse while she is ''[[ImperiledInPregnancy pregnant no less]]''. No points for guessing what happens to her: [[spoiler:gets [[spoiler:she gets bitten by a zombie, dies in labor and both her and her child turn into zombies, with the others being forced to put them down]]. She practically has a "imminent misery" sign written on her.
2nd Jun '18 7:45:44 PM TheNerevarine
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* ''Film/DawnOfTheDead2004'': Luda is a Russian woman in the middle of the zombie apocalypse while she is ''[[ImperiledInPregnancy pregnant no less]]''. No points for guessing what happens to her: [[spoiler:gets bitten by a zombie, dies in labor and both her and her child turn into zombies, with the others being forced to put them down]]. She practically a "imminent misery" sign written on her.
16th Apr '18 7:51:48 AM DLC1
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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" ''UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin''. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]and millions of ethnic Russians in one day turned out to be foreigners in independent former Soviet republics, some of whom began to discriminate against them. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.

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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" ''UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin''. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]and creatures]] and millions of ethnic Russians in one day turned out to be foreigners in independent former Soviet republics, some of whom began to discriminate against them. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.
16th Apr '18 7:51:03 AM DLC1
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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" ''UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin''. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.

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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" ''UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin''. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]].creatures]]and millions of ethnic Russians in one day turned out to be foreigners in independent former Soviet republics, some of whom began to discriminate against them. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.
16th Apr '18 7:37:10 AM DLC1
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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" [[UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin]]. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.

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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" [[UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin]].''UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin''. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.
16th Apr '18 7:33:17 AM DLC1
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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" VladimirPutin. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.

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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" VladimirPutin.[[UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin]]. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.
16th Apr '18 7:29:22 AM DLC1
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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" Useful Notes/VladimirPutin. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.

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** Gorbachev's Perestroika, which first gave hope for a better future for the country, [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp turned into an economic, political and ideological catastrophe that led to the collapse of the USSR]]. ''[[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell The collapse of the USSR is the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the century]]" Useful Notes/VladimirPutin.VladimirPutin. Yes, the stores were stuffed with goods, open borders and liberal freedoms, but it was given at the cost of complete destruction of the economy, the emergence of ethnic hatred between the former Soviet people, the constant political crisis and chaos in the democratic government, [[UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin always drunk President, who seemed to have no control over the country]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis and if he showed his power, then as the bombardment of the parliament building from tanks when parliament opposed him]],this put the country on the dangerous edge of the second civil war, the army was ruled by the arbitrariness of officers who used conscripts as slaves and actively plundered everything that was not nailed, and among the recruits [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina dedovshchina]] became the norm and went to extremes, and in some military units the soldiers even died of hunger, corruption reached UpToEleven, by the deception and theft of a handful of people in one moment became super-rich - [[CorruptCorporateExecutive the oligarchs]], and against the backdrop of a rapidly impoverished population, former Soviet dissidents actively criticized the Soviet era without seeing in it literally anything good and even went further criticizing the whole history of Russia, it was not enough and [[BoomerangBigot they publicly including on television insulted the Russian nation considering them lower creatures]]. And that's all not to mention the loss of superpower status, which the Russians experienced extremely painfully. [[CrapsackWorld "Lihie" the 90's]], indeed.
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