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1st Nov '16 8:59:55 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** The origins of this rule are explained in ''Literature/DarthBane: The Path of Destruction'', where the Sith have become rife with in-fighting due to hordes of individuals claiming the title of "Dark Lord of the Sith" with a leader pretending to be just a first among equals. The Sith philosophy in such a climate can only lead to self-destructive power struggles that serve only to empower their enemies. [[VillainProtagonist Bane]] eventually comes to the conclusion that there should only ever be two Sith Lords at a time: one to hold power, and the other to covet it. Eventually the apprentice should take it by force when they're ready. Furthermore he concludes the Sith should not work for the fall of the Jedi and to conquer the galaxy by armed conflict, but rather subtlety, which Palpatine eventually pulled off. [[spoiler: Having made up his mind on this, ''Darth'' Bane makes sure all the collectivist Sith Lords unintentionally commit collective suicide.]]

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** The origins of this rule are first explained in ''Literature/DarthBane: The Path the ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' novelization, and explored further in ''Literature/DarthBane''. When the Sith order was originally created, it was indeed an order that had many members, but since they were all steeped in the dark side, they had a collective bad case of Destruction'', ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. This tendency to betray each other at the drop of a hat weakened the order to the point where the Sith have become rife with in-fighting due to hordes of individuals claiming Jedi (who as light-siders were more unified) were gaining the title of "Dark Lord of the Sith" with a leader pretending to be just a first among equals. The Sith philosophy in such a climate can only lead to self-destructive power struggles that serve only to empower their enemies. [[VillainProtagonist Bane]] eventually comes to the conclusion upper hand. To combat this, Bane decided that there should only ever be two Sith Lords at a time: one time- a master to hold power, have power and the other an apprentice to covet it. Eventually the apprentice He also decided that they should endeavor to take it by force when they're ready. Furthermore he concludes the Sith should not work for the fall of the Jedi and to conquer over the galaxy by armed conflict, but rather subtlety, which via subtlety and manipulation (like Palpatine eventually pulled off. did) instead of outright invasion. [[spoiler: Having made up his mind on this, ''Darth'' Bane makes sure he manipulates all the collectivist Sith Lords unintentionally commit collective into committing mass suicide.]]]]



** Ultimately Darth Bane's philosophy also resulted in the Sith's undoing, as Bane did not take into account [[EvilCannotComprehendGood the possibility that either the master or the apprentice could actually be redeemed]], as evidenced by Darth Vader's RedemptionEqualsDeath and Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus' apprentice renouncing the Dark Side of the Force and the Sith shortly after the former's demise. What's worse is that Bane really should have known better. The Sith Lord whose Holocron gave Bane the inspiration for the Rule of Two, Darth Revan, had also renounced the Dark Side, and Bane knew this.

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** Ultimately Darth Bane's philosophy philosophy, while it kept the Sith alive in secret for millenia, also resulted in the Sith's order's undoing, as the chain could be easily broken by a factor that Bane did not failed to take into account [[EvilCannotComprehendGood account-[[EvilCannotComprehendGood the possibility that potential redemption of either the master or the apprentice could actually be redeemed]], as evidenced by apprentice]]. Darth Vader's RedemptionEqualsDeath and Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus' apprentice renouncing the Dark Side of the Force and the Sith shortly after the former's demise.demise pretty much spells the end for the Sith Order ''because'' of the RuleOfTwo. What's worse is that Bane really should have known better. The Sith Lord whose Holocron gave Bane the inspiration for the Rule of Two, Darth Revan, had also renounced the Dark Side, and Bane knew this.
9th Sep '16 5:28:47 AM SSJMagus
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** Since Series/StarWarsRebels, has canonized the Imperial Inquisition, they are Dark Side Force-sensitives employed by Darth Vader, but are immune to the Rule of Two because they are not Sith.

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** Since Series/StarWarsRebels, ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', has canonized the Imperial Inquisition, they are Dark Side Force-sensitives employed by Darth Vader, but are immune to the Rule of Two because they are not Sith. Sith.
*** It's revealed in the season 2 finale that despite having immense rage at the Sith Order as a whole for betraying and discarding him, [[spoiler:Maul]] still adheres to this philosophy. And he's looking to corrupt [[TheHero Ezra]] into becoming his apprentice.
10th Jul '16 11:10:46 PM jenniferz11_
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It's usually understood that the two want to keep it that way. Never introduce a third, and quickly replace the other if they go down. Due to infighting or general ForTheEvulz culture, the BigBad may [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness decide to dispose]] of the Dragon himself and get a new one. Similarly the Dragon [[TheUsurper will overthrow]] the BigBad if the opportunity presents itself, and bring on a new Dragon of his own. The tension of this dynamic is that they rely on each other, but both know it's a race to see who will stab who in the back first.

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It's usually understood that the two want to keep it that way. Never introduce a third, and quickly replace the other if they go down. Due to infighting or general ForTheEvulz culture, the BigBad may [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness decide to dispose]] of the Dragon {{the Dragon}} himself and get a new one. Similarly the Dragon {{the Dragon}} [[TheUsurper will overthrow]] the BigBad if the opportunity presents itself, and bring on a new Dragon of his own. The tension of this dynamic is that they rely on each other, but both know it's a race to see who will stab who in the back first.
23rd Feb '16 1:18:15 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'' is the TropeNamer. The Sith have the RuleOfTwo, where there can only be a Sith master and an apprentice - no more, no less - one to possess power and the other to desire it. The mentality is that each Sith Lord teaches one apprentice until they are strong enough to destroy the master and take their place, or until the master kills the apprentice, at which point they will seek out a student of their own. In this manner, each master not only ''becomes'' strong, but must ''stay'' that way to stay alive, and each student must become stronger than their master. Each generation of Sith is stronger than the last, because any weak link in the chain is dead. A master cannot have more than one apprentice, because they may team up to kill their master despite being individually weaker than him, then turn on each other and weaken the Sith Order. In short, ChronicBackstabbingDisorder as a way of life and a code of morality.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'' is the TropeNamer. The Sith have the RuleOfTwo, where there can only be a Sith master and an apprentice - no more, no less - one to possess power and the other to desire it. The mentality idea is that each Sith Lord teaches one apprentice until they are strong enough to destroy the master and take their place, at which point the apprentice will take on a student of his own, or until the master kills the apprentice, at which point they will seek out apprentice and gets a student of their own.new one. In this manner, each master not only ''becomes'' strong, but must ''stay'' that way to stay alive, and each student must become stronger than their master. Each generation of Sith is stronger than the last, because any weak link in the chain is dead. A master cannot have more than one apprentice, because they may team up to kill their master despite being individually weaker than him, then turn on each other and weaken the Sith Order. In short, ChronicBackstabbingDisorder as a way of life and a code of morality.
19th Jan '16 3:38:32 AM Perseus
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* The two major villains of ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'' are BigBad Cackletta and TheDragon Fawful. In ''[[VideoGameMarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]], where [[DragonAscendant Fawful is the Big Bad]], he gets a Dragon of his own, Midbus.

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* The two major villains of ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'' are BigBad Cackletta and TheDragon Fawful. In ''[[VideoGameMarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]], Story]]'', where [[DragonAscendant Fawful is the Big Bad]], he gets a Dragon of his own, Midbus.
19th Jan '16 3:38:13 AM Perseus
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* The two major villains of ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'' are BigBad Cackletta and TheDragon Fawful. In ''[[VideoGameMarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]], where [[DragonAscendant Fawful is the Big Bad]], he gets a Dragon of his own, Midbus.
5th Jan '16 2:12:57 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* ''Film/CrouchingTigerHiddenDragon'': Subverted. The apprentice (Jen) is a more skilled combatant than the Master (Jade Fox), but the Master is more treacherous.

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* ''Film/CrouchingTigerHiddenDragon'': Subverted. The apprentice (Jen) is a more skilled combatant than the Master (Jade Fox), but the Master is more treacherous.
26th Dec '15 10:32:25 PM DanMat6288
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**** Conversely, Palpatine began to suspect that Dooku was plotting the same in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars with his own assassin, [[DarkActionGirl Asajj Ventress]], and ordered him to have her killed to prove his loyalty. Dooku followed through with the order but failed to have her killed, resulting in her turning on him.

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**** Conversely, Palpatine began to suspect that Dooku was plotting the same in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' with his own assassin, [[DarkActionGirl Asajj Ventress]], and ordered him to have her killed to prove his loyalty. Dooku followed through with the order but failed to have her killed, resulting in her turning on him.
26th Dec '15 10:31:54 PM DanMat6288
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**** Conversely, Palpatine began to suspect that Dooku was plotting the same with his own assassin, [[DarkActionGirl Asajj Ventress]], and ordered him to have her killed to prove his loyalty. Dooku followed through with the order but failed to have her killed, resulting in her turning on him.

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**** Conversely, Palpatine began to suspect that Dooku was plotting the same in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars with his own assassin, [[DarkActionGirl Asajj Ventress]], and ordered him to have her killed to prove his loyalty. Dooku followed through with the order but failed to have her killed, resulting in her turning on him.
26th Dec '15 10:30:28 PM DanMat6288
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**** Conversely, Palpatine began to suspect that Dooku was plotting the same with his own assassin, [[DarkActionGirl Asajj Ventress]], and ordered him to have her killed to prove his loyalty. Dooku followed through with the order but failed to have her killed, resulting in her turning on him.
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