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22nd Jul '17 9:38:42 PM starkitty93
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** ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9897679/1/Severe-Misery Severe Misery]]'' (a college AU story) turns Sally Acorn, Bunnie Rabbot, Nicole Lynx, and Fiona Fox into cruel [[AlphaBitch Alpha Bitches]] who run a shady sorority that engages in Draconian natured hazing rituals for the heck of it. During and after another ritual, a demonic black dog terrorizes the four girls causing them to get into a fatal car crash. It is revealed afterwards that [[spoiler: the latest hazing victim was actually the author's SelfInsert character in disguise and had been the one who sent the demon dog after the four as revenge for the last hazing ritual in which she was the victim. The story ends with the college faculty never finding out who killed them, the self insert proceeds to violate their memorial, and gets away with it scotfree]]. As bad as the author tried to make the four characters, the self insert evidently ended up [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic looking 10 times worse]].

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** ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9897679/1/Severe-Misery Severe Misery]]'' (a college AU story) turns Sally Acorn, Bunnie Rabbot, Nicole Lynx, and Fiona Fox into cruel [[AlphaBitch Alpha Bitches]] who run a shady sorority that engages in Draconian natured hazing rituals for the heck of it. During and after another ritual, a demonic black dog terrorizes the four girls causing them to get into a fatal car crash. It is revealed afterwards that [[spoiler: the latest hazing victim was actually the author's SelfInsert character in disguise and had been the one who sent the demon dog after the four as revenge for the last hazing ritual in which she was the victim. The story ends with the college faculty never finding out who killed them, the self insert proceeds to violate their memorial, and [[KarmaHoudini gets away with it scotfree]].scotfree]] ]]. As bad as the author tried to make the four characters, the self insert evidently ended up [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic looking 10 times worse]].
15th Jul '17 10:43:58 AM Adannor
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** There's also a [[http://mrshoneydew.deviantart.com/art/What-Chapter-372-of-Fairy-Tail-Should-Have-Been-524338116 rewritten]] [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10791036/1/What-Chapter-372-of-Fairy-Tail-should-have-been version]] of Chapter 372 titled ''Fanfic/{{What Chapter 372 of Fairy Tail Should Have Been}} in which Erza [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] [[{{Sadist}} Kyouka]] [[PayEvilUntoEvil back]]. Sometimes with [[DisproportionateRetribution crueler methods]]. How do you respond to being [[spoiler: stripped naked, having your sensitivity to pain heightened, and then getting whipped like crazy and electrocuted]]? By [[spoiler: chopping your torturer's arms off, smashing her face against a stone floor multiple times, ripping open her stomach and leaving her organs exposed, ripping out a few of her organs, including one of her LUNGS!, squashing her shoulder bones like tin cans, and, of course, more electrocution.]] And when you're done, why not [[spoiler: [[EyeScream rip her eyes out too]]]]?
14th Jul '17 7:29:45 AM HarpieSiren
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** Mario is seen like this by great part of the fanbase (particularly when those two ''WebVideo/GameTheoryWebShow'' videos came out), mostly because of Luigi (Luigi doesn't get as much screen time as him, but many people make it look like Mario ''mistreats and abuses'' his brother), the endless enemies he stomps (other playable characters aren't blamed), and his relationships with Daisy and Pauline (both relationships are ''long'' since dead) besides Peach. Some of these fans use a mildly OOC moment of Mario ''stepping on Luigi's foot'' in a ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'' game as an example of Mario abusing his brother, but the ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series where he is shown to love his brother and come to his rescue various times (to name an example) are usually ignored.

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** Mario is seen like this by great part of the fanbase (particularly when those two ''WebVideo/GameTheoryWebShow'' videos came out), mostly because of Luigi (Luigi doesn't get as much screen time as him, but many people make it look like Mario ''mistreats and abuses'' his brother), the endless enemies he stomps (other playable characters aren't blamed), and his relationships with Daisy and Pauline (both relationships are ''long'' since dead) besides Peach. Some of these fans use a mildly OOC moment of Mario ''stepping on Luigi's foot'' in a ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'' game as an example of Mario abusing his brother, but the ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series where he is shown to love his brother and come to his rescue various times (to name an example) are is usually ignored.
14th Jul '17 3:35:27 AM WanderingBrowser
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* In "Series/GameOfThrones", the High Sparrow is a WellIntentionedExtremist with a homophobic streak and tendencies towards [[TheFundamentalist religious fundamentalism]]. Compared to some of the series's other characters, however, he isn't that bad. He also is a champion for the common people in a city infamous for corruption and decadence. Fans, however, seem to despise the man to ridiculous lengths (i.e. as much as [[TheCaligula Joffrey Baratheon]] and [[{{Sadist}} Ramsay Bolton]]), stripping him of all redeeming qualities even rooting for Cersei, who is murderous, torturous, incestuous, power-hungry, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] a RichBitch against him.

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* In "Series/GameOfThrones", the High Sparrow is a WellIntentionedExtremist with a homophobic streak and tendencies towards [[TheFundamentalist religious fundamentalism]]. Compared to some of the series's other characters, however, he isn't that bad. He also is a champion for the common people in a city infamous for corruption and decadence. Fans, however, seem to despise the man to ridiculous lengths (i.e. as much as [[TheCaligula Joffrey Baratheon]] and [[{{Sadist}} Ramsay Bolton]]), stripping him of all redeeming qualities qualities, and even rooting for Cersei, who is a murderous, torturous, torturing, incestuous, power-hungry, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] a RichBitch RichBitch, against him.him. This antipathy may have something to do with real-life issues many people have with fundamentalist religious people, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment something that doesn't need to be elaborated on]].
** Stannis Baratheon is a ''canonical'' case of this, having been slapped with CharacterExaggeration of his flaws (predominantly being a PrinciplesZealot and [[AmbitionIsEvil more ambitious than he should be]]) from [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire the original novels]], whilst many of his opponents have received AdaptationalHeroism in further contrast to his AdaptationalVillainy, which series producer D.B. Weiss has admitted in one interview mostly stems from his personal dislike of Stannis as a character.
29th Jun '17 2:28:07 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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This can be seen as a kind of [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation deliberate]] {{Flanderization}}--often, in creating Ron The Death Eater, a fanfic writer spins his canonical non-evil actions into evil acts, uses canonical evil actions as a justification as to why they are irredeemably evil even if the canon says otherwise, and has every possible negative trait of the character exaggerated. A measure of ruthlessness becomes complete and utter sociopathy, a tendency towards holding grudges becomes an obsessive hatred of anything they dislike, slight denseness becomes raging stupidity, etc.

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This can be seen as a kind of [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation deliberate]] {{Flanderization}}--often, in creating Ron The the Death Eater, a fanfic writer spins his canonical non-evil actions into evil acts, uses canonical evil actions as a justification as to why they are irredeemably evil even if the canon says otherwise, and has every possible negative trait of the character exaggerated. A measure of ruthlessness becomes complete and utter sociopathy, a tendency towards holding grudges becomes an obsessive hatred of anything they dislike, slight denseness becomes raging stupidity, etc.



In other cases, it seems like the target character, regardless of their original characterization, will simply default to one of two stock personalities, based entirely on their gender. Basically, male characters end up as drunken assholes while female characters end up as manipulative bitches. In any case, RonTheDeathEater is more likely to be a CardCarryingVillain who does things ForTheEvulz than to have any plausible reason for switching sides.

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In other cases, it seems like the target character, regardless of their original characterization, will simply default to one of two stock personalities, based entirely on their gender. Basically, male characters end up as drunken assholes while female characters end up as manipulative bitches. In any case, RonTheDeathEater Ron the Death Eater is more likely to be a CardCarryingVillain who does things ForTheEvulz than to have any plausible reason for switching sides.



* ''StarWars'': The "Darth Jar Jar" meme is an odd example of using RonTheDeathEater in order to invoke DracoInLeatherPants at the same time as an attempt to see the character in question RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. In canon, Jar Jar Binks is a well-meaning but LethalKlutz who is banished upon pain of death for being obnoxious. Despite getting into trouble, his bumbling inadvertently causes every ''positive'' story turn in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', proving that [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower even the seemingly useless have value]]. Unfortunately, said obnoxiousness created a venomous {{Hatedom}} and he became a punchline in mainstream media. Then some people started to recognize some of his influences and backstory, but came to the opposite and erroneous conclusion that Jar Jar was an evil Sith Lord manipulaing even [[TheChessmaster Palpatine]]...and therefore somehow a more worthwhile character than his canon arguably inspirational self.

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* ''StarWars'': The "Darth Jar Jar" meme is an odd example of using RonTheDeathEater Ron the Death Eater in order to invoke DracoInLeatherPants at the same time as an attempt to see the character in question RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. In canon, Jar Jar Binks is a well-meaning but LethalKlutz who is banished upon pain of death for being obnoxious. Despite getting into trouble, his bumbling inadvertently causes every ''positive'' story turn in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', proving that [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower even the seemingly useless have value]]. Unfortunately, said obnoxiousness created a venomous {{Hatedom}} and he became a punchline in mainstream media. Then some people started to recognize some of his influences and backstory, but came to the opposite and erroneous conclusion that Jar Jar was an evil Sith Lord manipulaing even [[TheChessmaster Palpatine]]...and therefore somehow a more worthwhile character than his canon arguably inspirational self.
29th Jun '17 2:22:34 PM Scifimaster92
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* ''StarWars'': The "Darth Jar Jar" meme is an odd example of using RonTheDeathEater in order to invoke DracoInLeatherPants at the same time as an attempt to see the character in question RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. In canon, Jar Jar Binks is a well-meaning but LethalKlutz who is banished upon pain of death for being obnoxious. Despite getting into trouble, his bumbling inadvertently causes every ''positive'' story turn in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', proving that [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower even the seemingly useless have value]]. Unfortunately, said obnoxiousness created a venomous Hatedom and he became a punchline in mainstream media. Then some people started to recognize some of his influences and backstory, but came to the opposite and erroneous conclusion that Jar Jar was an evil Sith Lord manipulaing even [[TheChessmaster Palpatine]]...and therefore somehow a more worthwhile character than his canon arguably inspirational self.

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* ''StarWars'': The "Darth Jar Jar" meme is an odd example of using RonTheDeathEater in order to invoke DracoInLeatherPants at the same time as an attempt to see the character in question RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. In canon, Jar Jar Binks is a well-meaning but LethalKlutz who is banished upon pain of death for being obnoxious. Despite getting into trouble, his bumbling inadvertently causes every ''positive'' story turn in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', proving that [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower even the seemingly useless have value]]. Unfortunately, said obnoxiousness created a venomous Hatedom {{Hatedom}} and he became a punchline in mainstream media. Then some people started to recognize some of his influences and backstory, but came to the opposite and erroneous conclusion that Jar Jar was an evil Sith Lord manipulaing even [[TheChessmaster Palpatine]]...and therefore somehow a more worthwhile character than his canon arguably inspirational self.
29th Jun '17 2:20:17 PM Scifimaster92
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* ''StarWars'': The "Darth Jar Jar" meme is an odd example of using RonTheDeathEater in order to invoke DracoInLeatherPants at the same time as an attempt to see the character in question RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. In canon, Jar Jar Binks is a well-meaning but LethalKlutz who is banished upon pain of death for being obnoxious. Despite getting into trouble, his bumbling inadvertently causes every ''positive'' story turn in ThePhantomMenace, proving that [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower even the seemingly useless have value]]. Unfortunately, said obnoxiousness created a venomous Hatedom and he became a punchline in mainstream media. Then some people started to recognize some of his influences and backstory, but came to the opposite and erroneous conclusion that Jar Jar was an evil Sith Lord manipulaing even [[TheChessmaster Palpatine]]...and therefore somehow a more worthwhile character than his canon arguably inspirational self.

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* ''StarWars'': The "Darth Jar Jar" meme is an odd example of using RonTheDeathEater in order to invoke DracoInLeatherPants at the same time as an attempt to see the character in question RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. In canon, Jar Jar Binks is a well-meaning but LethalKlutz who is banished upon pain of death for being obnoxious. Despite getting into trouble, his bumbling inadvertently causes every ''positive'' story turn in ThePhantomMenace, ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', proving that [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower even the seemingly useless have value]]. Unfortunately, said obnoxiousness created a venomous Hatedom and he became a punchline in mainstream media. Then some people started to recognize some of his influences and backstory, but came to the opposite and erroneous conclusion that Jar Jar was an evil Sith Lord manipulaing even [[TheChessmaster Palpatine]]...and therefore somehow a more worthwhile character than his canon arguably inspirational self.



* The ''Literature/Twilight'' fic "Through Your Eyes"- which features a Bella whose shield has made her blind, among other talents- depicts Jacob's fixation on Bella as becoming particularly intense, to the point that he physically threatens Bella to try and make her be with him in the belief that she is his imprint, ignoring all Pack-presented evidence to the contrary. In the end, Bella is forced to [[spoiler: AndIMustScream use her powers to completely cut off Jake's senses, leaving him biologically alive but totally unaware of anything around him]].

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* The ''Literature/Twilight'' ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' fic "Through Your Eyes"- which features a Bella whose shield has made her blind, among other talents- depicts Jacob's fixation on Bella as becoming particularly intense, to the point that he physically threatens Bella to try and make her be with him in the belief that she is his imprint, ignoring all Pack-presented evidence to the contrary. In the end, Bella is forced to [[spoiler: AndIMustScream use her powers to completely cut off Jake's senses, leaving him biologically alive but totally unaware of anything around him]].
27th Jun '17 9:50:27 AM Wolfenshire12
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* ''Series/Daredevil2015'': An InUniverse case of this happens in season 2 with the breakdown of Matt and Foggy's friendship due to his slacking off on Frank Castle's trial in favor of running around with Elektra. Yes, Matt lies, yes he isn't always the best friend he could be, and yes, he makes some pretty big mistakes. But he is, in the end, only human, and isn't alone. And Foggy, for his part is certainly justified in having a few issues with the things Matt does, in and out of costume. However, the fact that Matt isn't fully deserving of Foggy's trust doesn't he mean he ''is'' fully deserving of Foggy's unyielding, unending condemnation, especially when these criticisms become less and less about what Matt ''does'', and more about who he ''is''. Eventually, in "Seven Minutes in Heaven," Matt's response to getting yet another lecture from Foggy isn't to argue back, but to calmly respond, "I'm not gonna stop, Foggy. Not anytime soon. And to be honest, I'm done apologizing to you for who I am."

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* ''Series/Daredevil2015'': An InUniverse case of this happens in season 2 with the breakdown of Matt and Foggy's friendship due to his slacking off on Frank Castle's trial in favor of running around with Elektra. Yes, Matt lies, yes he isn't always the best friend he could be, and yes, he makes some pretty big mistakes. But he is, in the end, only human, and isn't alone. And Foggy, for his part is certainly justified in having a few issues with the things Matt does, in and out of costume. However, the fact that Matt isn't fully deserving of Foggy's trust doesn't he mean he ''is'' fully deserving of Foggy's unyielding, unending condemnation, especially when these criticisms become less and less about what Matt ''does'', and more about who he ''is''. Eventually, in "Seven Minutes in Heaven," Matt's response to getting yet another lecture from Foggy isn't to argue back, but to calmly respond, "I'm not gonna stop, Foggy. Not anytime soon. And to be honest, I'm done apologizing to you for who I am."
24th Jun '17 5:03:47 PM MarcusSLazarus
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* The ''Literature/Twilight'' fic "Through Your Eyes"- which features a Bella whose shield has made her blind, among other talents- depicts Jacob's fixation on Bella as becoming particularly intense, to the point that he physically threatens Bella to try and make her be with him in the belief that she is his imprint, ignoring all Pack-presented evidence to the contrary. In the end, Bella is forced to [[spoiler: AndIMustScream use her powers to completely cut off Jake's senses, leaving him biologically alive but totally unaware of anything around him]].
19th Jun '17 1:58:03 PM BatmanKalEl
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* ''WesternAnimaton/TheLoudHouse'': The sisters in general, and Luan, Lola and Lori in particular, have received this treatment within the fandom, with their negative traits being amplified by some. This is mostly due to them being completely oblivious and/or ignorant of the abuse they put Lincoln through, and typically getting away with it. "The Sweet Spot", "Sound of Silence", "Sleuth or Consequences", "It's a Loud, Loud, Loud, Loud, Loud House", "Brawl in the Family" and "No Such Luck" are notable episodes that back this claim up. Downplayed a bit, since in most fanworks, the sisters acknowledge how badly they've treated Lincoln and otherwise learn their lesson in the end.

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* ''WesternAnimaton/TheLoudHouse'': ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'': The sisters in general, and Luan, Lola and Lori in particular, have received this treatment within the fandom, with their negative traits being amplified by some. This is mostly due to them being completely oblivious and/or ignorant of the abuse they put Lincoln through, and typically getting away with it. "The Sweet Spot", "Sound of Silence", "Sleuth or Consequences", "It's a Loud, Loud, Loud, Loud, Loud House", "Brawl in the Family" and "No Such Luck" are notable episodes that back this claim up. Downplayed a bit, since in most fanworks, the sisters acknowledge how badly they've treated Lincoln and otherwise learn their lesson in the end.
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