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22nd Apr '16 9:41:00 AM erforce
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** Later [[BigBrotherBully Buzz]] isn't worried and declares that Kevin will be just fine because "A, he's not that lucky. 2, they have smoke detectors, and D, they live on the most boring street in the USA where nothing even remotely dangerous will happen." He's right about Kevin being alright, but it's only thanks to the little guy's ingenuity, affinity for traps that would make [[Film/{{Saw}} Jigsaw]] ask for an autograph, and one BadassGrandpa.

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** Later [[BigBrotherBully Buzz]] isn't worried and declares that Kevin will be just fine because "A, he's not that lucky. 2, they have smoke detectors, and D, they live on the most boring street in the USA where nothing even remotely dangerous will happen." He's right about Kevin being alright, but it's only thanks to the little guy's ingenuity, affinity for traps that would make [[Film/{{Saw}} [[Franchise/{{Saw}} Jigsaw]] ask for an autograph, and one BadassGrandpa.
2nd Apr '16 11:21:59 PM GrammarNavi
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* Joseph [=McCarthy=] and his [[WitchHunt career]] reads almost like a deconstruction of the trope. He came to historical infamy by violently lashing out at "Communist Infiltration." He claimed to possess a list of "proven" infiltrators, and championed a drive to crush them. Most if not all his "evidence" was based on BlatantLies and motivated by cynical political posturing (and maybe a sliver of good intentions). As it turned out, the Soviet Union did indeed control a vast network of spies throughout the West that did include local Communist Parties that were internally totalitarian and downright treasonous, and they combined did vast amounts of damage. Indeed, most rational people knew that the Soviets would've been absolute idiots to ''not'' build such a network. The problem was that [=McCarthy=] jumped from the rational supposition that the Soviets were spying on the United States to the insane conclusion that ''everybody was a Soviet spy'' (especially anyone who tried to call him out on his claims and arguments). The resulting witch hunts basically broke the prestige and cohesion of those networks and probably gained the US the upper hand for the first decade or so of the Cold War. The kicker is that in doing so, they also inflamed hysteria and harmed many, many innocent people while [=McCarthy=] himself did not catch a single Communist agent and continued a series of hysterical accusations until he committed electoral suicide by [[TooDumbToLive taking on the US military in the shadow of the Second World War, the Korean War, the Elbe River Crisis, *and* the Berlin Airlift.]] Both UsefulNotes/HarryTruman and UsefulNotes/DwightEisenhower made similar, sarcastic jibes that [=McCarthy=]'s hysterical methods made him "the best agent the Kremlin ever had" because of [[StopHelpingMe the way he made his cause look irrational]]. ''Literature/TheManchurianCandidate'' has an {{expy}} of McCarthy who really ''is'' a Soviet agent with exactly this mission to help the Communists obtain control of the US.

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* Joseph [=McCarthy=] and his [[WitchHunt career]] reads almost like a deconstruction of the trope. He came to historical infamy by violently lashing out at "Communist Infiltration." He claimed to possess a list of "proven" infiltrators, and championed a drive to crush them. Most if not all his "evidence" was based on BlatantLies and motivated by cynical political posturing (and maybe a sliver of good intentions). As it turned out, the Soviet Union did indeed control a vast network of spies throughout the West that did include local Communist Parties that were internally totalitarian and downright treasonous, and they combined did vast amounts of damage. Indeed, most rational people knew that the Soviets would've been absolute idiots to ''not'' build such a network. The problem was that [=McCarthy=] jumped from the rational supposition that the Soviets were spying on the United States to the insane conclusion that ''everybody was a Soviet spy'' (especially anyone who tried to call him out on his claims and arguments). The resulting witch hunts basically broke the prestige and cohesion of those networks and probably gained the US the upper hand for the first decade or so of the Cold War. The kicker is that in doing so, they also inflamed hysteria and harmed many, many innocent people while [=McCarthy=] himself did not catch a single Communist agent and continued a series of hysterical accusations until he committed electoral suicide by [[TooDumbToLive taking on the US military in the shadow of the Second World War, the Korean War, the Elbe River Crisis, *and* the Berlin Airlift.]] Both UsefulNotes/HarryTruman and UsefulNotes/DwightEisenhower made similar, sarcastic jibes that [=McCarthy=]'s hysterical methods made him "the best agent the Kremlin ever had" because of [[StopHelpingMe the way he made his cause look irrational]]. ''Literature/TheManchurianCandidate'' has an {{expy}} of McCarthy [=McCarthy=] who really ''is'' a Soviet agent with exactly this mission to help the Communists obtain control of the US.
2nd Apr '16 3:31:46 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* Paladin King Trevor from the ''Lamia Daughter Quest'' roleplay is a {{Deconstruction}} of this. He claims that the Citadel kingdom is evil, and he's absolutely right about that, but he's wrong about pretty much every particular. He believes that it's evil in an entirely mundane way, while it's actually a GeniusLoci that feeds on periodic human sacrifices and acts like the [[Discworld/WitchesAbroad Lily Weatherwax]] of heroic fantasy. Because of his misconception of Citadel, he ends up playing right into its hands, giving an army to one of its stooges and eventually becoming a pawn himself.
25th Mar '16 11:14:11 PM Karxrida
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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': In ''Birthright'', Hinoka figures out that the Archduke Izana of Izuma is an imposter based on how casually he talks, believing that no royal would ever act that way. The real Archduke does indeed speak that way, and she just happened to be correct that he was being impersonated.
10th Mar '16 7:10:01 PM gophergiggles
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* ''Film/HomeAlone'':
** Harry and Marv notice something strange about Kevin and begin following in their van to see which house he goes in. When he runs, they conclude something must be up because, in Harry's words, "I knew he looked at me weird! Why would he run?" Of course something ''is'' in fact up because Kevin is home alone and recognized Harry as the police officer from the beginning, but the real reason he ran is because two creepy guys in a beat up van were ''[[StrangerDanger following him down the street.]]''
** Later [[BigBrotherBully Buzz]] isn't worried and declares that Kevin will be just fine because "A, he's not that lucky. 2, they have smoke detectors, and D, they live on the most boring street in the USA where nothing even remotely dangerous will happen." He's right about Kevin being alright, but it's only thanks to the little guy's ingenuity, affinity for traps that would make [[Film/{{Saw}} Jigsaw]] ask for an autograph, and one BadassGrandpa.
8th Mar '16 3:26:43 PM ShorinBJ
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* ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' Part 3 has an inversion. 1955 Doc Brown has Marty set to make his trip into 1985, but Marty protests that he'll hit a billboard with some Indians on it. Doc assures him that since he'll go back in time before reaching the billboard, the Indians won't be there. Marty does as told...and arrives to find ''actual'' Indians charging at him in the same place. Doc was Wrong for the Right Reasons.

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* ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' Part 3 has an inversion. 1955 Doc Brown has Marty set to make his trip into 1985, but Marty protests that he'll hit a billboard with some Indians on it. Doc assures him that since he'll go back in time before reaching the billboard, the Indians won't be there. Marty does as told...and arrives to find ''actual'' Indians charging at him in the same place. Doc was Wrong for the Right Reasons. Or you could say this is a straight example, and Marty was Right for the Wrong Reasons.
8th Mar '16 3:24:51 PM ShorinBJ
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* ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' Part 3 has an inversion. 1955 Doc Brown has Marty set to make his trip into 1985, but Marty protests that he'll hit a billboard with some Indians on it. Doc assures him that since he'll go back in time before reaching the billboard, the Indians won't be there. Marty does as told...and arrives to find ''actual'' Indians charging at him in the same place. Doc was Wrong for the Right Reasons.
6th Mar '16 12:15:49 PM Nautilus1
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* In [[{{Creator/KarlMay}} Karl May]]'s novels and stories set in the [[TheWildWest Old West]], the cowboys, scouts and settlers in the West from either [=USA=] or Mexico are never idealized. Their vices, avarice, theft, violence, [[TheDungAges filth]] are usually touched with BrutalHonesty. He did it to contrast the IncorruptiblePurePureness of the heroes [[{{Literature/Winnetou}} Winnetou]] and Charlie / [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Old Shatterhand]], but he reflects reality pretty accurately. The Western frontier had been a pretty dismal place before being fully settled and people trying their luck there were usually on the less savoury side.
2nd Mar '16 8:18:00 AM HeraldAlberich
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** In ''Literature/DarkLordTheRiseOfDarthVader'', After Jedi Knights Shryne, Starstone, and Chatak escape Order 66, they receive a signal recalling them to the Jedi Temple. Starstone correctly speculates that ''all'' of the clones have turned on the Jedi, but thinks it's because they're in league with Count Dooku and the Separatists. They aren't, but their boss is.

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** In ''Literature/DarkLordTheRiseOfDarthVader'', After after Jedi Knights Shryne, Starstone, and Chatak escape Order 66, they receive a signal recalling them to the Jedi Temple. Starstone correctly speculates that ''all'' of the clones have turned on the Jedi, but thinks it's because they're in league with Count Dooku and the Separatists. They aren't, but their boss is.
2nd Mar '16 8:17:21 AM HeraldAlberich
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* In ''[[ComicBook/XWingSeries Isard's Revenge]]'', smuggler Talon Karrde visits the ''Errant Venture'', the converted Star Destroyer belonging to ex-smuggler Booster Terrik. Terrik believes the visit is regarding one of Karrde's associates, Aves, getting his own ship. Terrik is absolutely correct about Aves getting a new ship (and also correctly identifying the ship he's getting), even spelling out his line of logic (which is partly based on the fact that Karrde came to his ship). Karrde's visit, however, has nothing to do with Aves or his new ship; instead, it concerns [[spoiler:two functional astromechs from X-wings presumed destroyed, belonging to two people presumed dead. Specifically, the astromechs belonging to Wedge Antilles and Corran Horn.]] Karrde even invokes the name of the trope, saying "this is why you're dangerous Booster, you're right for all the wrong reasons."
* [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Grand Admiral Thrawn]] makes a few of these. Thrawn's TheChessmaster and a ManipulativeBastard who is often [[MagnificentBastard magnificent]], and usually he's spectacular at gauging what any given individual will do in response to the situation. As the trilogy goes on and unforeseen events crop up with more regularity he starts being wrong about the ''why'', but still right -- until the end, when he's not.

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In ''[[ComicBook/XWingSeries ''[[Literature/XWingSeries Isard's Revenge]]'', smuggler Talon Karrde visits the ''Errant Venture'', the converted Star Destroyer belonging to ex-smuggler Booster Terrik. Terrik believes the visit is regarding one of Karrde's associates, Aves, getting his own ship. Terrik is absolutely correct about Aves getting a new ship (and also correctly identifying the ship he's getting), even spelling out his line of logic (which is partly based on the fact that Karrde came to his ship). Karrde's visit, however, has nothing to do with Aves or his new ship; instead, it concerns [[spoiler:two functional astromechs from X-wings presumed destroyed, belonging to two people presumed dead. Specifically, the astromechs belonging to Wedge Antilles and Corran Horn.]] Horn]]. Karrde even invokes the name of the trope, saying "this saying, "This is why you're dangerous dangerous, Booster, you're right for all the wrong reasons."
* [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy ** Grand Admiral Thrawn]] Thrawn of ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' makes a few of these. Thrawn's TheChessmaster and a ManipulativeBastard who is often [[MagnificentBastard magnificent]], and usually he's spectacular at gauging what any given individual will do in response to the situation. As the trilogy goes on and unforeseen events crop up with more regularity he starts being wrong about the ''why'', but still right -- until right--until the end, when he's not.not.
** In ''Literature/DarkLordTheRiseOfDarthVader'', After Jedi Knights Shryne, Starstone, and Chatak escape Order 66, they receive a signal recalling them to the Jedi Temple. Starstone correctly speculates that ''all'' of the clones have turned on the Jedi, but thinks it's because they're in league with Count Dooku and the Separatists. They aren't, but their boss is.
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