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12th Apr '17 4:11:28 PM karstovich2
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* In 2015, an attention-getting study was done, showing that a simple, 10-minute conversation with a stranger who turned out to be gay could measurably change people's opinions on gay rights. It made quite a stir, until it was discovered that the grad student running the study apparently [[BlatantLies made up all the data]], and the study was retracted. The same group that discovered this fraud did a [[http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-two-grad-students-uncovered-michael-lacour-fraud-and-a-way-to-change-opinions-on-transgender-rights/ study of their own]], and found that the original conclusions were ''actually correct'', if somewhat less dramatic than originally claimed.

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* In 2015, an attention-getting study was done, showing that a simple, 10-minute conversation with a stranger who turned out to be gay could measurably change people's opinions on gay rights. It made quite a stir, until it was discovered that the grad student running the study apparently [[BlatantLies made up all the data]], and the study was retracted. The same group that discovered this fraud did a [[http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-two-grad-students-uncovered-michael-lacour-fraud-and-a-way-to-change-opinions-on-transgender-rights/ study of their own]], and found that the original conclusions were ''actually correct'', if somewhat less dramatic than originally claimed.claimed, and for a different reason: the stranger didn't have to be gay, they just had to seem open-minded and "help" the interviewee come to the conclusion on his/her own (i.e., it's not empathy driving the change in opinion, it's people thinking they changed their minds on their own).
12th Apr '17 3:14:17 PM MsZephy7
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** In ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', when Homura confronts [[spoiler: Bebe]], she believes that the latter knows what's going on because she thinks that [[spoiler: Bebe is the witch that created the fake Mitakihara.]] In fact, [[spoiler: Bebe]] ''does'' know what is going on but they were not the ones to [[spoiler: create the barrier.]]
8th Apr '17 5:52:48 PM Odacon_Spy
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* Towards the end of ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', both Kiryu and Majima both receive coded messages from [[spoiler:the [[BonusBoss Amon Clan]]]] telling them to meet at a specific place. While Kiryu reads it easily enough, Majima gets the code confused with his baseball terminology and instead reads the message as "Just nine pitches. Come to the pitching place. Amore." Despite this, he manages to guess the correct meeting place anyway with good ol' BatDeduction: he reasons that 'pitching place' must mean 'bullpen', deduces that 'Amore' is an Italian word and Italian is similar to Spanish and, finally, adds 'bullpen' and Spanish together to arrive at [[spoiler:a bullfighting arena]].
6th Apr '17 4:41:03 PM cherrychels
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** When King Robert wants to make Jaime Lannister the Warden of the East, Eddard Stark is suspicious of him; he remembers seeing Jaime [[SlouchOfVillainy slouched on the Iron Throne]] after betraying and killing [[TheCaligula Mad King Aerys]], and takes this as evidence of Jaime wanting the throne for himself. Robert jokes that Jaime was probably just tired and needed a place to sit... and is completely correct.[[note]]Though this loses some of its possibly-accuracy with the fact that, unlike in the TV show , the Book!Iron Throne is a MASSIVE 30-foot mess that requires a climb equivalent to 2-3 floors worth of stairs to actually get to the chair part; if he was REALLY exhausted, it seems more likely Jaime would have sat on the steps, if not the ground outright if there was no room and he was exhausted, rather than climb all the way up.[[/note]]

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** When King Robert wants to make Jaime Lannister the Warden of the East, Eddard Stark is suspicious of him; he remembers seeing Jaime [[SlouchOfVillainy slouched on the Iron Throne]] after betraying and killing [[TheCaligula Mad King Aerys]], and takes this as evidence of Jaime wanting the throne for himself. Robert jokes that Jaime was probably just tired and needed a place to sit... and is completely correct.[[note]]Though this loses some of its possibly-accuracy with the fact that, unlike in the TV show , show, the Book!Iron Throne is a MASSIVE far more massive as 30-foot mess that requires a climb equivalent to 2-3 floors worth of stairs to actually get to the chair part; seat; if he was REALLY exhausted, it seems more likely Jaime would have sat on the steps, if not the ground outright if there was no room and he was exhausted, ground, rather than climb all the way up.[[/note]]



** In the same book Dobby, a [[SlaveRace house-elf]], tries to convince Harry not to come back to Hogwarts, claiming it will put him in great danger; he later tries to force Harry to go home. Ron suggests that Dobby belongs to Harry's rival, Draco Malfoy, and is trying to trick him. It turns out that Dobby ''does'' belong to the Malfoy family, but he's not lying about his motives--it's just that the Malfoys are involved in the danger Dobby is trying to protect Harry from.

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** In the same book Dobby, a [[SlaveRace house-elf]], tries to convince Harry not to come back to Hogwarts, claiming it will put him in great danger; he later tries to force Harry to go home. Ron suggests that Dobby belongs to Harry's rival, Draco Malfoy, and is trying to trick him. It turns out that Dobby ''does'' belong to the Malfoy family, but he's not lying about his motives--it's motives -- it's just that the Malfoys are involved in the danger Dobby is trying to protect Harry from.



* In the fourth season of ''Series/DowntonAbbey,'' the new nanny for the children gets short with butler Thomas. Thomas, not caring much for her attitude, engages in a scheme to get Nanny West fired, throwing something of a Hail Mary by fabricating a story to Cora that he suspected she was neglecting the children. Upon telling Cora, she walks by the nursery one night... where she hears Nanny West verbally ''abusing'' baby Sybbie, calling her a "chauffeur's daughter" and a "wicked little cross-breed" (her mother was English, her father Irish.) Nanny West was gone the next morning.

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* In the fourth season of ''Series/DowntonAbbey,'' the new nanny for the children gets short with butler Thomas. Thomas, not caring much for her attitude, engages in a scheme to get Nanny West fired, throwing something of a Hail Mary by fabricating a story to Cora that he suspected she was neglecting the children. Upon telling Cora, she walks by the nursery one night... where she hears Nanny West verbally ''abusing'' baby Sybbie, calling her a "chauffeur's daughter" and a "wicked little cross-breed" (her mother was English, her father Irish.) Irish). Nanny West was is gone the next morning.



*** Jon's then entitled attitude when he first joins the watch. While it's true that he was the most promising recruit at time, it does not automatically means instant membership as he has to earn it like the rest. Tyrion and his uncle's scoldings puts him in his place.
*** He broke a few oaths of the Night's Watch, with him leading the Wildlings to live south of the Wall being the final straw for a group of his Watch brothers to execute him for betraying the Watch. Except Jon actually allowed the Wildlings to go through the Wall so they won't come back as part of the growing undead army, not to malign the Watch.
*** The Season 6 finale reveals that this is his entire existence in a nutshell. All his life he was told that he is the illegitimate child of a highborn northerner, hence the surname "Snow". While that is true, his northerner parent is not the one who he thinks. Ned's "You might not have my name, but you have my blood" remark in Season 1 perfectly sums this up.

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*** Jon's then initial entitled attitude when he first joins the watch. Watch. While it's true that he was the most promising recruit at time, time since he was castle-raised and trained as the son of a lord, it does not automatically means instant membership as he has to earn it like the rest. Tyrion and his uncle's Jon's uncle scoldings puts him quickly put Jon in his place.
place and Jon teaches his fellow recruits how to fight properly, becoming TrueCompanions with them.
*** He broke a few oaths of the Night's Watch, with him leading Watch but when he leads the Wildlings to live south of the Wall being Wall, it's the final straw for a group of his Watch brothers to execute him for brothers, who view Jon as betraying the Watch. Except Watch and execute him in a mutiny -- except Jon actually allowed the Wildlings to go through the Wall so they won't come back as part of the growing undead army, not to malign the Watch.
*** The Season 6 finale reveals that this is his entire existence in a nutshell. All his life he was told that he is the illegitimate child of a highborn northerner, hence the surname "Snow". While that is true, his northerner parent is not the one who he thinks. Ned's Ned telling Jon, "You might not have my name, but you have my blood" remark blood," in Season 1 perfectly sums this up.
6th Apr '17 3:32:57 PM gb00393
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* In Season 1 of ''Series/GameOfThrones'', Viserys speculates that King Robert, known for being an [[HotBlooded impatient]] BloodKnight, might be foolish enough to face [[TheHorde a Dothraki horde]] in open combat rather than [[VictoryByEndurance wait out a Dothraki attack behind castle walls]]. Some time later, Robert explains that he would indeed face the Dothraki in open combat... not because [[GeneralFailure he's an idiot who is blind to tactics and strategy]], but because the Dothraki's scorched-earth policy would turn the smallfolk and [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious lords of uncertain loyalty]] against him and make it impossible for him to rule if he were to hide behind castle walls while his kingdoms were destroyed around him.

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In Season 1 of ''Series/GameOfThrones'', 1, Viserys speculates that King Robert, known for being an [[HotBlooded impatient]] BloodKnight, might be foolish enough to face [[TheHorde a Dothraki horde]] in open combat rather than [[VictoryByEndurance wait out a Dothraki attack behind castle walls]]. Some time later, Robert explains that he would indeed face the Dothraki in open combat... not because [[GeneralFailure he's an idiot who is blind to tactics and strategy]], but because the Dothraki's scorched-earth policy would turn the smallfolk and [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious lords of uncertain loyalty]] against him and make it impossible for him to rule if he were to hide behind castle walls while his kingdoms were destroyed around him.


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** Poor Jon Snow just can't catch a break from this.
*** Jon's then entitled attitude when he first joins the watch. While it's true that he was the most promising recruit at time, it does not automatically means instant membership as he has to earn it like the rest. Tyrion and his uncle's scoldings puts him in his place.
*** He broke a few oaths of the Night's Watch, with him leading the Wildlings to live south of the Wall being the final straw for a group of his Watch brothers to execute him for betraying the Watch. Except Jon actually allowed the Wildlings to go through the Wall so they won't come back as part of the growing undead army, not to malign the Watch.
*** The Season 6 finale reveals that this is his entire existence in a nutshell. All his life he was told that he is the illegitimate child of a highborn northerner, hence the surname "Snow". While that is true, his northerner parent is not the one who he thinks. Ned's "You might not have my name, but you have my blood" remark in Season 1 perfectly sums this up.
5th Apr '17 2:42:52 PM MsZephy7
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** Todoroki is almost immediately able to pinpoint that Midoriya has some form of relationship with All Might and is All Might's protege. However, he mistakenly believes that Midoriya is All Might's illegitimate son.



* In ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'', Todoroki is almost immediately able to pinpoint that Midoriya has some form of relationship with All Might and is All Might's protege. However, he mistakenly believes that Midoriya is All Might's illegitimate son.
5th Apr '17 2:40:10 PM MsZephy7
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* In ''Anime/MyHeroAcademia'', Todoroki is almost immediately able to pinpoint that Midoriya has some form of relationship with All Might and is All Might's protege. However, he mistakenly believes that Midoriya is All Might's illegitimate son.
23rd Mar '17 4:00:25 PM Az_Tech341
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*** Loghain himself considers the King wanting to bring in Grey Warden reinforcements in from neighboring Orlais as to be the clinching evidence that the King is plotting to dump his current queen (Loghain's daughter) and marry Orlais' Empress to unite the countries. The plan turns out to be real, but the Wardens aren't involved in any way.

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*** Loghain himself considers the King wanting to bring in Grey Warden reinforcements in from neighboring Orlais as to be the clinching evidence that the King is plotting to dump his current queen (Loghain's daughter) and marry Orlais' Empress to unite the countries. The plan turns out to be real, but the Wardens aren't involved in any way.
23rd Mar '17 3:59:03 PM Az_Tech341
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* ''VideoGame/VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines'': Alistair Grout, a vampiric psychologist, first comes across as rather enlightened for dismissing a lot of Freudian theory. Then he starts supporting phrenology and begins to wax lyrical about "the sedate gurgling of the lobotomised" in the insane asylums of yore. Freud is just some new-fangled upstart as far as he's concerned.
23rd Mar '17 3:24:27 PM ImpudentInfidel
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*** Loghain himself considers the King wanting to bring in Grey Warden reinforcements in from neighboring Orlais as to be the clinching evidence that the King is plotting to dump his current queen (Loghain's daughter) and marry Orlais' Empress to unite the countries. The plan turns out to be real, but the Wardens aren't involved in any way.
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