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18th Jul '17 8:08:56 AM Anicomicgeek
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* The "Sleepwaker" arc in ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' sees [[spoiler: Pollo, Harvey Finevoice, and Linksano go WhatTheHellHero when Linkara resorted to spying on them after discovering that 90s Kid was working with Lord Vyce. Turns out 90s Kid has good reason to be working with Vyce--the Entity has hijacked Linkara's body and used the pretext of fearing that Vyce would take the Entity's place to justify his actions.]]
15th Jul '17 1:06:07 PM billybobfred
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* In 2015, an attention-getting study was done, showing that a simple, 10-minute conversation with a stranger who turned out to be gay could measurably change people's opinions on gay rights. It made quite a stir, until it was discovered that the grad student running the study apparently [[BlatantLies made up all the data]], and the study was retracted. The same group that discovered this fraud did a [[http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-two-grad-students-uncovered-michael-lacour-fraud-and-a-way-to-change-opinions-on-transgender-rights/ study of their own]], and found that the original conclusions were ''actually correct'', if somewhat less dramatic than originally claimed, and for a different reason: the stranger didn't have to be gay, they just had to seem open-minded and "help" the interviewee come to the conclusion on his/her own (i.e., it's not empathy driving the change in opinion, it's people thinking they changed their minds on their own).

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* In 2015, an attention-getting study was done, showing that a simple, 10-minute conversation with a stranger who turned out to be gay could measurably change people's opinions on gay rights. It made quite a stir, until it was discovered that the grad student running the study apparently [[BlatantLies made up all the data]], and the study was retracted. The same group that discovered this fraud did a [[http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-two-grad-students-uncovered-michael-lacour-fraud-and-a-way-to-change-opinions-on-transgender-rights/ study of their own]], and found that the original conclusions were ''actually correct'', if somewhat less dramatic than originally claimed, and for a different reason: the stranger didn't have to be gay, they just had to seem open-minded and "help" the interviewee [[GladYouThoughtOfIt come to the conclusion on his/her own their own]] (i.e., it's not empathy driving the change in opinion, it's people thinking they changed their minds on their own).
9th Jul '17 11:40:01 PM Linda58
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* In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/6607459/chapters/15117019 Birds of a Feather]]'', correctly deduces Laurel is lying about [[CutHimselfShaving how she got her injuries]] and concludes "someone's hurting her", seemingly thinking of some kind of DomesticAbuse. The injuries are actually from her being the Black Canary, so he's right in that people are intentionally hurting her, but he's way off as to how/why.

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* In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/6607459/chapters/15117019 Birds of a Feather]]'', Oliver correctly deduces Laurel is lying about [[CutHimselfShaving how she got her injuries]] and concludes "someone's hurting her", seemingly thinking of some kind of DomesticAbuse. The injuries are actually from her being the Black Canary, so he's right in that people are intentionally hurting her, but he's way off as to how/why.
8th Jul '17 9:24:17 PM Linda58
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* In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/6607459/chapters/15117019 Birds of a Feather]]'', correctly deduces Laurel is lying about [[CutHimselfShaving how she got her injuries]] and concludes "someone's hurting her", seemingly thinking of some kind of DomesticAbuse. The injuries are actually from her being the Black Canary, so he's right in that people are intentionally hurting her, but he's way off as to how/why.
1st Jul '17 6:10:01 PM RyanW
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* ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartIII'' has an inversion. 1955 Doc Brown has Marty set to make his trip into 1885, but Marty protests that he'll hit a billboard with some Indians on it. Doc assures him that since he'll go back in time before reaching the billboard, the Indians won't be there. Marty does as told...and arrives to find ''actual'' Indians charging at him in the same place. Doc was Wrong for the Right Reasons. Or you could say this is a straight example, and Marty was Right for the Wrong Reasons.

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* ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartIII'' has an inversion. ''Film/BackToTheFuturePartIII'':
** An inversion:
1955 Doc Brown has Marty set to make his trip into 1885, but Marty protests that he'll hit a billboard with some Indians on it. Doc assures him that since he'll go back in time before reaching the billboard, the Indians won't be there. Marty does as told...and arrives to find ''actual'' Indians charging at him in the same place. Doc was Wrong for the Right Reasons. Or you could say this is a straight example, and Marty was Right for the Wrong Reasons.Reasons.
** A straight example: One of the bar patrons reads the "Injun" word on Marty's "moccasins" as "Nee-kay." That's a completely incorrect way to pronounce Nike, the shoe company. It's pretty close to the correct pronunciation of Nike, the Greek goddess of victory.
22nd Jun '17 1:42:30 PM Az_Tech341
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** Smalljon is correct that Jon allied with the Wildlings and allowed them past the wall. He is wrong in believing he's going to lead them against the North, though his assumption that Jon is very likely to move against the Boltons is much more probable.
22nd Jun '17 9:42:11 AM gb00393
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** Smalljon is correct that Jon allied with the Wildlings and allowed them past the wall. He is wrong in believing he's going to lead them against the North, though his assumption that Jon is very likely to move against the Boltons is much more probable.
20th Jun '17 4:04:45 PM Gosicrystal
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Supertrope of WorryingForTheWrongReason. Compare and contrast FramingTheGuiltyParty, where the facts are ''known'' to be false, but the conclusion is still correct. Also compare ConvictionByCounterfactualClue. Can sometimes overlap with AccidentallyAccurate when it happens on a meta-level. Dismissing the conclusion because of erroneous facts would be the FallacyFallacy. When the premises and the conclusion are correct, but the logic connecting them is false you have a BatDeduction. For the direct inverse, where the logic and premises are perfectly sound, but the conclusion isn't, see EntertaininglyWrong. May be a reason for DontShootTheMessage. Often the case when [[TheCloudCuckooLanderWasRight the Cloud Cuckoo Lander is right]]. May result in DumbassHasAPoint.

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Supertrope of WorryingForTheWrongReason. Compare and contrast FramingTheGuiltyParty, where the facts are ''known'' to be false, but the conclusion is still correct. Also compare ConvictionByCounterfactualClue. Can sometimes overlap with AccidentallyAccurate AccidentallyCorrectWriting when it happens on a meta-level. Dismissing the conclusion because of erroneous facts would be the FallacyFallacy. When the premises and the conclusion are correct, but the logic connecting them is false you have a BatDeduction. For the direct inverse, where the logic and premises are perfectly sound, but the conclusion isn't, see EntertaininglyWrong. May be a reason for DontShootTheMessage. Often the case when [[TheCloudCuckooLanderWasRight the Cloud Cuckoo Lander is right]]. May result in DumbassHasAPoint.
17th Jun '17 8:25:16 AM Odacon_Spy
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* Towards the end of ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', both Kiryu and Majima both receive coded messages from [[spoiler:the [[BonusBoss Amon Clan]]]] telling them to meet at a specific place. While Kiryu reads it easily enough, Majima gets the code confused with his baseball terminology and instead reads the message as "Just nine pitches. Come to the pitching place. Amore." Despite this, he manages to suss out the correct meeting place anyway using good ol' BatDeduction: he reasons that 'pitching place' must mean 'bullpen', deduces that 'Amore' is an Italian word and Italian is kinda similar to Spanish and, finally, adds 'bullpen' and Spanish together to arrive at [[spoiler:a bullfighting arena]].
17th Jun '17 8:17:56 AM Odacon_Spy
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* Towards the end of ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', both Kiryu and Majima both receive coded messages from [[spoiler:the [[BonusBoss Amon Clan]]]] telling them to meet at a specific place. While Kiryu reads it easily enough, Majima gets the code confused with his baseball terminology and instead reads the message as "Just nine pitches. Come to the pitching place. Amore." Despite this, he manages to guess the correct meeting place anyway with good ol' BatDeduction: he reasons that 'pitching place' must mean 'bullpen', deduces that 'Amore' is an Italian word and Italian is similar to Spanish and, finally, adds 'bullpen' and Spanish together to arrive at [[spoiler:a bullfighting arena]].

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* Towards the end of ''VideoGame/Yakuza0'', both Kiryu and Majima both receive coded messages from [[spoiler:the [[BonusBoss Amon Clan]]]] telling them to meet at a specific place. While Kiryu reads it easily enough, Majima gets the code confused with his baseball terminology and instead reads the message as "Just nine pitches. Come to the pitching place. Amore." Despite this, he manages to guess suss out the correct meeting place anyway with using good ol' BatDeduction: he reasons that 'pitching place' must mean 'bullpen', deduces that 'Amore' is an Italian word and Italian is kinda similar to Spanish and, finally, adds 'bullpen' and Spanish together to arrive at [[spoiler:a bullfighting arena]].
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