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24th Apr '16 12:13:37 AM aye_amber
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* Any PostRock band that is not Mogwai, Music/GodspeedYouBlackEmperor, Music/ExplosionsInTheSky, or Music/SigurRos will inevitably be compared to at least one of those. This is especially frustrating for bands such as God Is An Astronaut, who claim in interviews to have never been influenced by ''any'' of them. Even side-projects of the above artists are not immune to these comparisons. Case in point: GodspeedYouBlackEmperor vs. Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra.

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* Any PostRock band that is not Mogwai, Music/GodspeedYouBlackEmperor, Music/ExplosionsInTheSky, or Music/SigurRos will inevitably be compared to at least one of those. This is especially frustrating for bands such as God Is An Astronaut, who claim in interviews to have never been influenced by ''any'' of them. Even side-projects of the above artists are not immune to these comparisons. Case in point: GodspeedYouBlackEmperor Music/GodspeedYouBlackEmperor vs. Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra.
2nd Jan '16 10:48:15 AM nombretomado
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* Music/JoyDivision: PostPunk revival band. Doesn't help that many PostPunk revivalists have vocalists that sound like Ian Curtis (or, as SomethingAwful less charitably put it, "throat-raping Ian Curtis' corpse").

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* Music/JoyDivision: PostPunk revival band. Doesn't help that many PostPunk revivalists have vocalists that sound like Ian Curtis (or, as SomethingAwful Website/SomethingAwful less charitably put it, "throat-raping Ian Curtis' corpse").
5th Sep '14 3:52:40 AM Patachou
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** ''Revolver'', ''Sgt. Pepper'': PsychedelicRock {{Concept Album}}s.

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** ''Revolver'', ''Music/{{Revolver}}'', ''Sgt. Pepper'': PsychedelicRock {{Concept Album}}s.



** ''Abbey Road'': a glossy GrandFinale production where a decaying band pulls itself together for one last effort that is worthy of their talents.
* Speaking of Music/TheBeatles, Music/GeorgeHarrison's triple-album ''All Things Must Pass'' is pretty much shorthand for "first two discs are awesome, but the third part is complete shit and nobody ever listens to it".
* Music/TheBeachBoys' ''Pet Sounds'': baroque pop album bordering on psychedelia, intricate orchestration, cool production, massive harmonies. Key difference from ''Sgt. Pepper'' is that ''Pet Sounds'' implies a more sedate pop sound as opposed to trippy rocking out.

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** ''Abbey Road'': ''Music/AbbeyRoad'': a glossy GrandFinale production where a decaying band pulls itself together for one last effort that is worthy of their talents.
* Speaking of Music/TheBeatles, Music/GeorgeHarrison's triple-album ''All Things Must Pass'' ''Music/AllThingsMustPass'' is pretty much shorthand for "first two discs are awesome, but the third part is complete shit and nobody ever listens to it".
* Music/TheBeachBoys' ''Pet Sounds'': ''Music/PetSounds'': baroque pop album bordering on psychedelia, intricate orchestration, cool production, massive harmonies. Key difference from ''Sgt. Pepper'' is that ''Pet Sounds'' implies a more sedate pop sound as opposed to trippy rocking out.



** As a corollary, Puff Daddy: {{Sampling}} GoneHorriblyWrong.

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** As a corollary, Puff Daddy: Music/PuffDaddy: {{Sampling}} GoneHorriblyWrong.



* Any double album will either attract comparisons to classic double albums like Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall'', Music/LedZeppelin's ''Physical Graffiti'', Music/TheBeatles' ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'' or Music/{{Prince}}'s ''Sign o' the Times'' or will cause arguments that it's too long and would've been better with some songs thrown out/as a single album - double albums will inevitably be seen as either a "grand artistic statement" or "self-indulgent noodling". Double albums frequently tend to feature lots of [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly genre experimentation]] and sprawling - in fact, "sprawl" in a pretty frequent term when it comes to describing double albums.

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* Any double album will either attract comparisons to classic double albums like Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall'', Music/LedZeppelin's ''Physical Graffiti'', Music/TheBeatles' ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'' or Music/{{Prince}}'s ''Sign o' O' the Times'' or will cause arguments that it's too long and would've been better with some songs thrown out/as a single album - double albums will inevitably be seen as either a "grand artistic statement" or "self-indulgent noodling". Double albums frequently tend to feature lots of [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly genre experimentation]] and sprawling - in fact, "sprawl" in a pretty frequent term when it comes to describing double albums.



* Music/TheRamones = moronically simple, catchy PopPunk.

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* Music/TheRamones = moronically Moronically simple, catchy PopPunk.
28th Jul '14 2:02:13 PM YonTroper
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* Any metal band that has ever been vaguely melodic, especially if they use guitar harmonies prominently, will get compared to Music/IronMaiden.
23rd Nov '13 11:51:02 PM Twentington
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** Acoustic guitar-playing singer-songwriters tend to be compared with James Taylor, Music/JoniMitchell, Cat Stevens or Music/JimCroce.

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** Acoustic guitar-playing singer-songwriters tend to be compared with James Taylor, Music/JoniMitchell, Cat Stevens or Music/JimCroce.Music/JimCroce.
* "Neotraditionalist" country will generally be compared to Music/AlanJackson and/or Music/GeorgeStrait. Basically, meat-and-potatoes, "real" country with ThreeChordsAndTheTruth, a honky-tonk beat, and fiddle and steel aplenty. If the review skews older, than Music/MerleHaggard and Music/GeorgeJones are the go-to comparisons for similar sounds.
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19th Mar '13 3:31:53 PM SeptimusHeap
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* Music/FrankZappa: {{Crazy Awesome}}ness, heavily experimental tunes with avant-garde leanings, complicated compositions, aversion of CommonTime, quirky, RefugeInAudacity or [[RefugeInVulgarity Vulgarity]] humour.

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* Music/FrankZappa: {{Crazy Awesome}}ness, heavily experimental tunes with avant-garde leanings, complicated compositions, aversion of CommonTime, quirky, RefugeInAudacity or [[RefugeInVulgarity Vulgarity]] humour.VulgarHumor.
4th Mar '13 10:05:36 AM JIKTV
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* During the late 90's / early 2000's, many European reviewers insisted on comparing new UK bands to Music/{{Radiohead}}. Unfortunately, it [[Music/{{Coldplay}} was]] [[{{Music/Muse}} often]] [[{{Travis}} true]].

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* During the late 90's / early 2000's, many European reviewers insisted on comparing new UK bands to Music/{{Radiohead}}. Unfortunately, it [[Music/{{Coldplay}} was]] [[{{Music/Muse}} often]] [[{{Travis}} true]].(in the case of [=Travis=] true.)



* Any person of Slavic descent who writes a book with at least one funny sentence in it will be compared to Gogol. Nabokov? Gogol. Gary Shteyngart? Gogol. See also any book featuring a protagonist under 40 who's not perfectly content with society and his place in it. The author will inevitably be compared to Salinger.

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* Any person of Slavic descent who writes a book with at least one funny sentence in it will be compared to Gogol. Nabokov? [[Creator/NikolaiGogol Gogol]]. [[Creator/VladimirNabokov Nabokov]]? Gogol. Gary Shteyngart? Gogol. See also any book featuring a protagonist under 40 who's not perfectly content with society and his place in it. The author will inevitably be compared to Salinger.
4th Mar '13 9:59:27 AM JIKTV
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One way to get around the problem is to compare or contrast the work in question to other artists or albums. In itself, this trope [[TropesAreNotBad is not bad]] since it can provide an easy reference for a band's SignatureStyle, kind of like how PowerPop = Music/TheBeatles [[XMeetsY plus]] TheWho. However, done excessively it can get annoying (like, say, featuring the exact same comparison in every single review of albums released by a particular band), and it can also backfire if it's WrongGenreSavvy: comparing something to an obscure Japanese noise band will fly over the heads of most mainstream listeners.

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One way to get around the problem is to compare or contrast the work in question to other artists or albums. In itself, this trope [[TropesAreNotBad is not bad]] since it can provide an easy reference for a band's SignatureStyle, kind of like how PowerPop = Music/TheBeatles [[XMeetsY plus]] TheWho.Music/TheWho. However, done excessively it can get annoying (like, say, featuring the exact same comparison in every single review of albums released by a particular band), and it can also backfire if it's WrongGenreSavvy: comparing something to an obscure Japanese noise band will fly over the heads of most mainstream listeners.
4th Mar '13 9:55:44 AM JIKTV
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* Any PostRock band that is not Mogwai, GodspeedYouBlackEmperor, ExplosionsInTheSky, or SigurRos will inevitably be compared to at least one of those. This is especially frustrating for bands such as God Is An Astronaut, who claim in interviews to have never been influenced by ''any'' of them. Even side-projects of the above artists are not immune to these comparisons. Case in point: GodspeedYouBlackEmperor vs. Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra.

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* Any PostRock band that is not Mogwai, GodspeedYouBlackEmperor, ExplosionsInTheSky, Music/GodspeedYouBlackEmperor, Music/ExplosionsInTheSky, or SigurRos Music/SigurRos will inevitably be compared to at least one of those. This is especially frustrating for bands such as God Is An Astronaut, who claim in interviews to have never been influenced by ''any'' of them. Even side-projects of the above artists are not immune to these comparisons. Case in point: GodspeedYouBlackEmperor vs. Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra.



* TheRamones = moronically simple, catchy PopPunk.
* PunkRock band? Get ready for a shitton of comparisons to TheSexPistols, TheClash and so on...
* {{Metallica}}'s ''Master of Puppets'' and ''...And Justice for All'' are often used as a standard for comparing more thoughtful, mature, hard rock and heavy metal albums.

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* TheRamones Music/TheRamones = moronically simple, catchy PopPunk.
* PunkRock band? Get ready for a shitton of comparisons to TheSexPistols, TheClash Music/TheSexPistols, Music/TheClash and so on...
* {{Metallica}}'s Music/{{Metallica}}'s ''Master of Puppets'' and ''...And Justice for All'' are often used as a standard for comparing more thoughtful, mature, hard rock and heavy metal albums.



* Indie pop bands will tend to get compared to {{Oasis}}, Music/{{Blur}}, BelleAndSebastian, or DeathCabForCutie.

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* Indie pop bands will tend to get compared to {{Oasis}}, Music/{{Oasis}}, Music/{{Blur}}, BelleAndSebastian, Music/BelleAndSebastian, or DeathCabForCutie.Music/DeathCabForCutie.



* {{Burzum}} = technically simple, repetitive ambient black metal. Or indeed any kind of ambient black metal, really.

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* {{Burzum}} Music/{{Burzum}} = technically simple, repetitive ambient black metal. Or indeed any kind of ambient black metal, really.
4th Mar '13 9:53:26 AM JIKTV
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** ''The White Album'': Probably ''the'' most standard reference you can get. It refers to a really eclectic album that experiments with lots of genres, has lots of throwaway, humorous stuff and an overall "disjointed" character. Will frequently draw huge arguments over which songs should have been left off or comments that "it would be a better album if it was just edited/a single album".

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** ''The White Album'': ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'': Probably ''the'' most standard reference you can get. It refers to a really eclectic album that experiments with lots of genres, has lots of throwaway, humorous stuff and an overall "disjointed" character. Will frequently draw huge arguments over which songs should have been left off or comments that "it would be a better album if it was just edited/a single album".



* Speaking of Music/TheBeatles, George Harrison's triple-album ''All Things Must Pass'' is pretty much shorthand for "first two discs are awesome, but the third part is complete shit and nobody ever listens to it".
* The Beach Boys' ''Pet Sounds'': baroque pop album bordering on psychedelia, intricate orchestration, cool production, massive harmonies. Key difference from ''Sgt. Pepper'' is that ''Pet Sounds'' implies a more sedate pop sound as opposed to trippy rocking out.
* BeastieBoys, DJShadow or PublicEnemy: {{Sampling}} done ''right''.

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* Speaking of Music/TheBeatles, George Harrison's Music/GeorgeHarrison's triple-album ''All Things Must Pass'' is pretty much shorthand for "first two discs are awesome, but the third part is complete shit and nobody ever listens to it".
* The Beach Boys' Music/TheBeachBoys' ''Pet Sounds'': baroque pop album bordering on psychedelia, intricate orchestration, cool production, massive harmonies. Key difference from ''Sgt. Pepper'' is that ''Pet Sounds'' implies a more sedate pop sound as opposed to trippy rocking out.
* BeastieBoys, DJShadow Music/BeastieBoys, Music/DJShadow or PublicEnemy: Music/PublicEnemy: {{Sampling}} done ''right''.



* Music/BigStar or CheapTrick: They're a PowerPop band.
** {{XTC}}, Badfinger or The Raspberries are also used for comparison.
* FrankZappa: {{Crazy Awesome}}ness, heavily experimental tunes with avant-garde leanings, complicated compositions, aversion of CommonTime, quirky, RefugeInAudacity or [[RefugeInVulgarity Vulgarity]] humour.

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* Music/BigStar or CheapTrick: Music/CheapTrick: They're a PowerPop band.
** {{XTC}}, Music/{{XTC}}, Badfinger or The Raspberries are also used for comparison.
* FrankZappa: Music/FrankZappa: {{Crazy Awesome}}ness, heavily experimental tunes with avant-garde leanings, complicated compositions, aversion of CommonTime, quirky, RefugeInAudacity or [[RefugeInVulgarity Vulgarity]] humour.



* JoyDivision: PostPunk revival band. Doesn't help that many PostPunk revivalists have vocalists that sound like Ian Curtis (or, as SomethingAwful less charitably put it, "throat-raping Ian Curtis' corpse").

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* JoyDivision: Music/JoyDivision: PostPunk revival band. Doesn't help that many PostPunk revivalists have vocalists that sound like Ian Curtis (or, as SomethingAwful less charitably put it, "throat-raping Ian Curtis' corpse").



* Any double album will either attract comparisons to classic double albums like Pink Floyd's ''The Wall'', LedZeppelin's ''Physical Graffiti'', The Beatles' ''The White Album'' or Prince's ''Sign o' the Times'' or will cause arguments that it's too long and would've been better with some songs thrown out/as a single album - double albums will inevitably be seen as either a "grand artistic statement" or "self-indulgent noodling". Double albums frequently tend to feature lots of [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly genre experimentation]] and sprawling - in fact, "sprawl" in a pretty frequent term when it comes to describing double albums.
** Speaking of PinkFloyd, ''Dark Side of the Moon'' is reviewerspeak for "ConceptAlbum with excellent production and progressive tendencies".
* Good ProgressiveRock will get compared to PinkFloyd, {{Yes}} or KingCrimson. {{Rush}} may show up occasionally if the reviewer's nerdy enough. Bad ProgressiveRock and long, drawn-out, endless wankery albums will inevitably get compared to Yes' famous disaster ''Tales from Topographic Oceans''.
* Any female musician with a penchant for weirdness will at some point get compared to KateBush or Music/ToriAmos (''especially'' if she's a singer-songwriter or piano player).
** And as a corollary, any female pop/electro singer who wears outfits at all flamboyant will be compared to {{Bjork}}.
*** Not so much anymore. The new standard of comparison is LadyGaga, fortunately or unfortunately.
* {{U2}}: Big echoey guitars, ambient-ish production, strident {{Anvilicious}} sociopolitical lyrics, LargeHam vocals.
* During the late 90's / early 2000's, many European reviewers insisted on comparing new UK bands to {{Radiohead}}. Unfortunately, it [[{{Coldplay}} was]] [[{{Music/Muse}} often]] [[{{Travis}} true]].

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* Any double album will either attract comparisons to classic double albums like Pink Floyd's ''The Wall'', LedZeppelin's Music/PinkFloyd's ''Music/TheWall'', Music/LedZeppelin's ''Physical Graffiti'', The Beatles' ''The White Album'' Music/TheBeatles' ''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'' or Prince's Music/{{Prince}}'s ''Sign o' the Times'' or will cause arguments that it's too long and would've been better with some songs thrown out/as a single album - double albums will inevitably be seen as either a "grand artistic statement" or "self-indulgent noodling". Double albums frequently tend to feature lots of [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly genre experimentation]] and sprawling - in fact, "sprawl" in a pretty frequent term when it comes to describing double albums.
** Speaking of PinkFloyd, Music/PinkFloyd, ''Dark Side of the Moon'' is reviewerspeak for "ConceptAlbum with excellent production and progressive tendencies".
* Good ProgressiveRock will get compared to PinkFloyd, {{Yes}} Music/PinkFloyd, Music/{{Yes}} or KingCrimson. {{Rush}} Music/KingCrimson. Music/{{Rush}} may show up occasionally if the reviewer's nerdy enough. Bad ProgressiveRock and long, drawn-out, endless wankery albums will inevitably get compared to Yes' famous disaster ''Tales from Topographic Oceans''.
* Any female musician with a penchant for weirdness will at some point get compared to KateBush Music/KateBush or Music/ToriAmos (''especially'' if she's a singer-songwriter or piano player).
** And as a corollary, any female pop/electro singer who wears outfits at all flamboyant will be compared to {{Bjork}}.Music/{{Bjork}}.
*** Not so much anymore. The new standard of comparison is LadyGaga, Music/LadyGaga, fortunately or unfortunately.
* {{U2}}: Music/{{U2}}: Big echoey guitars, ambient-ish production, strident {{Anvilicious}} sociopolitical lyrics, LargeHam vocals.
* During the late 90's / early 2000's, many European reviewers insisted on comparing new UK bands to {{Radiohead}}. Music/{{Radiohead}}. Unfortunately, it [[{{Coldplay}} [[Music/{{Coldplay}} was]] [[{{Music/Muse}} often]] [[{{Travis}} true]].



* It's common to compare any female R&B singer to Beyonce or maybe Rihanna now. Before they came out, they were compared to JanetJackson.
* Jam Bands tend to draw comparisons to the GratefulDead or {{Phish}}.
* Piano-playing singer-songwriters often get compared with BillyJoel, EltonJohn, JoeJackson, RandyNewman or CaroleKing. More modern ones are compared with ToriAmos, BenFolds or (maybe) VanessaCarlton.
** Acoustic guitar-playing singer-songwriters tend to be compared with JamesTaylor, JoniMitchell, Cat Stevens or Jim Croce.

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* It's common to compare any female R&B singer to Beyonce Music/{{Beyonce}} or maybe Rihanna Music/{{Rihanna}} now. Before they came out, they were compared to JanetJackson.
Music/JanetJackson.
* Jam Bands tend to draw comparisons to the GratefulDead Music/TheGratefulDead or {{Phish}}.
Music/{{Phish}}.
* Piano-playing singer-songwriters often get compared with BillyJoel, EltonJohn, JoeJackson, RandyNewman Music/BillyJoel, Music/EltonJohn, Joe Jackson, Music/RandyNewman or CaroleKing. Music/CaroleKing. More modern ones are compared with ToriAmos, BenFolds Music/ToriAmos, Music/BenFolds or (maybe) VanessaCarlton.
Music/VanessaCarlton.
** Acoustic guitar-playing singer-songwriters tend to be compared with JamesTaylor, JoniMitchell, James Taylor, Music/JoniMitchell, Cat Stevens or Jim Croce.Music/JimCroce.
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